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Sikeliot
12-22-2013, 05:05 PM
I am just curious. Is there one?

I know Lithuanians have more Finnic influence on the paternal side, but autosomally they are "Eastern European" according to Dodecad, 23andme, etc.
inactive_member
12-23-2013, 11:39 AM
There's a difference. They are less mixed than the Belarusians. Possibly less mixed in the whole region.
Mans not hot
12-23-2013, 11:52 AM
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Argang
12-23-2013, 12:14 PM
This PCA from Eurogenes explains the difference (on autosomal level) quite well. Balts and Baltic Finns have a "northern shift" that separates them from Slavs and Volga Finns (as well as Chuvash and Permians).

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2q0j8de.jpg
Hercus Monte
12-23-2013, 03:57 PM
This PCA from Eurogenes explains the difference (on autosomal level) quite well. Balts and Baltic Finns have a "northern shift" that separates them from Slavs and Volga Finns (as well as Chuvash and Permians).


the PCA is a little difficult to read. Are we yellow?
Argang
12-23-2013, 05:00 PM
Top left yellow cluster. It's indeed a bit difficult to read because Belorussians directly below Lithuanians and Finns to the right are also coloured yellow.
Harkonnen
12-23-2013, 06:56 PM
I know Lithuanians have more Finnic influence on the paternal side

No, they are pure.
Pure ja
12-23-2013, 07:39 PM
No, they are pure.

I'd like to elaborate on that ;)
They are pure finnic :p
South-western baltic-finnic at that.

Finns formed the majority of baltic-finnics only after the Livonian War, so finns are not a good proxy. Try estonians.
Hercus Monte
12-24-2013, 12:34 PM
Top left yellow cluster. It's indeed a bit difficult to read because Belorussians directly below Lithuanians and Finns to the right are also coloured yellow.
so basically this?

http://i.imgur.com/o5CDsog.png
Argang
12-24-2013, 12:43 PM
Yes, or perhaps specifically the upper-right area of the circle. The yellow individuals below that area are belorussians.
justme
12-25-2013, 08:20 PM
Lithuanians... Most of them look Russian or Polish... But paler versions...
RussiaPrussia
01-16-2014, 09:08 PM
there are genetically even more slavic than russians or polish

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-European-admixture.gif

their language just hasnt evolved like the other slavic languages
Hercus Monte
01-17-2014, 03:47 AM
there are genetically even more slavic than russians or polish

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-European-admixture.gif

their language just hasnt evolved like the other slavic languages
:picard2: Please go back to school.
justme
01-18-2014, 06:22 PM
there are genetically even more slavic than russians or polish

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-European-admixture.gif

their language just hasnt evolved like the other slavic languages

It's actually that those lands were once upon a time Baltic... So they are more Baltic then Slavic.