Phenotype Handed Down Gender Lines?

[Freomæg]

Most Englishmen have blue eyes and most have fair hair as children which darkens, to varying degrees, as they get older. Both of these are very germanic traits.

I say Englishmen. If you look around you (assuming you are in England), you will notice that, on the whole, men tend to be fairer than women. Certainly, there are far more naturally blond men than women in this land. This is not simply a short term blip; it dates all the way back to the migration age of the fifth century. Here's the science. Many of the genes governing our appearance are handed down along gender lines; some along the male line, others along the female. In other words, men tend to preserve the traits of their male forebears and women their female ones more so than the other way round. The differences (albethey slight) between the sexes reflect the fact that more English men than women came over from our homeland. Given that most of the first settlers were warriors, this is hardly surprising. Put the other way round, it means that English women tend to have a little more of the Welsh about them than the blokes do.
As suggested here (http://www.runeware.co.uk/main/teutonicheritage3)

I disagree. Both of my grandfathers were/are blue-eyed nordid/atlantids. I'm not. I probably resemble my mother more than my father, and my father resembles his mother more than his father. My girlfriend resemlbes her father more than her mother and her brother resembles his mother more than his father. And I've not noticed more 'fair' men than women in England.

Is the science behind the above sound, or is it more nonsense?

[Östsvensk]

I don't know. But women usually tend to be fairer than men.

Speaking from personal experiences, I have noticed that the first child usually tends to take after the mother while the second takes more after the father. I am an example of it myself. I guess it is just imagination though. :)

I have a very thick and brachycephalic skull, which I have inherited from my maternal grandmother (all of my other grandparents are or were meso/dolicocephalic). To be honest, I hope none of my eventual children will take after me on the skull part. :cool:

[Fortis in Arduis]

Speaking from personal experiences, I have noticed that the first child usually tends to take after the mother while the second takes more after the father. I am an example of it myself. I guess it is just imagination though. :)

No, the first born child is often very different from all subsequent children.

Not to say like the mother or the father, but certainly quite different.

[Freomæg]

No, the first born child is often very different from all subsequent children.
That's not at all true of me and my siblings, but it is true of my girlfriend's.

[Svarogstan]

Phenotype cannot and is never passed down gender lines. Phenotypic traits always involve autosomal genes and inheritance of these genes that make you look like either your mother or father are purely random chance events.

[Loki]

I don't know. But women usually tend to be fairer than men.


I think this is more a perception / illusion than a reality. Men traditionally spend more time outdoors and acquire tans, and as far as hair colouring goes ... men don't bleach their hair as often as women.

[Jarl]

Most Englishmen have blue eyes and most have fair hair as children which darkens, to varying degrees, as they get older. Both of these are very germanic traits.

I think it is a general Northern European trait. Celtic, Germanic, Slavic, Baltic and Finnic alike.


I say Englishmen. If you look around you (assuming you are in England), you will notice that, on the whole, men tend to be fairer than women. Certainly, there are far more naturally blond men than women in this land. This is not simply a short term blip; it dates all the way back to the migration age of the fifth century. Here's the science.

Very true. And not only among the English. Some pigmentation genes are X-linked, hence the higher variation and frequency of more extreme phenotypes among males.



Many of the genes governing our appearance are handed down along gender lines; some along the male line, others along the female. In other words, men tend to preserve the traits of their male forebears and women their female ones more so than the other way round. The differences (albethey slight) between the sexes reflect the fact that more English men than women came over from our homeland. Given that most of the first settlers were warriors, this is hardly surprising. Put the other way round, it means that English women tend to have a little more of the Welsh about them than the blokes do.

This can all be explained by simple maths. Males are hemizygous for all X-linked genes, while females are not. All rest is ballocks.


I don't know. But women usually tend to be fairer than men.

It is exactly the opposite.

[Freomæg]

It is exactly the opposite.
I say it's an illusion that there are more blonde men or more blonde women. Clearly, different people have made different observations to this end so without a detailed study I say the whole concept is bollocks. All five of my male English cousins, as well as myself and by brothers have inherited the pigmentation of their mothers.

[Jarl]

I say it's an illusion that there are more blonde men or more blonde women. Clearly, different people have made different observations to this end so without a detailed study I say the whole concept is bollocks. All five of my male English cousins, as well as myself and by brothers have inherited the pigmentation of their mothers.

I have seen literally dozens of surveys conducted on Polish populations, and quite a few on Irish, British and German. I can assure you that male variation in pigmentation is always more spread out than that of females in any given population. Males always tend to have more pure blue eyes and more fair blonde hair, while females tend to have more light-mixed eyes and dark blonde/brown hair shades. Means are usually also shifted in favour of males.

Go on facebook and try to compare natural blonde females and males of the fairest ash blonde type. I did a similar study in Poland. Roughly, males exceed females at a ratio of 3:1 at least.

[Northern_Paladin]

I guess the Anglo-Saxon men wasted no time subduing the indigenous population.:coffee:

[Agrippa]

This has exactly NOTHING to do with racial traits, but just with those of the sexual type and hormons!

The sex type and hormons can change various aspects of one phenotype and being only indirectly related to racial forms, if its about coloration not all.

With the start of puberty, the new hormonal status of a male and female, the pigmentation of the hair starts to change again significantly. Yet some authors said this, others that.

As for the skin color, most depictions and descriptions state that females are lighter skinned, not just because of the environmental aspect, but their skin form in general.

But again, this has nothing to do with the preservation of a racial type, but just the respective expression of it in the phenotype, as distinguished by the different sex type.

Obviously progressive-mature racial forms are more extreme in the male sex, infantile ones in the female one, that just about accumulated effects, but again thats just sex type specific and the inheritance pattern goes down the line.

Quite often you see daughters having the fathers traits, or sons having that of the mother, nothing special...