How Iberian are you?

[JQP4545]

Just list your Iberian result for Eurogenes K36. For me its 17.93 % which I feel is high for someone of predominantly Greek, German, and Irish descent.

[Sikeliot]

The Greek and Irish together probably combine in such a way that 23andme mistakes it for Iberian.

[MfA_]

More Iberian than Übermensch is Germanic..

0.08%

[Tropico]

The Greek and Irish together probably combine in such a way that 23andme mistakes it for Iberian.

:picard2:

[Damião de Góis]

Just list your Iberian result for Eurogenes K36.

23.54%

[Krampus]

MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE.

[Sikeliot]

:picard2:

No other explanation for it.

I score 14.1% Iberian which is obviously from my Portuguese side.

[MINARDOWICZ]

The Greek and Irish together probably combine in such a way that 23andme mistakes it for Iberian.

Maybe.. it is a bit high for that though, I think. Sounds more like there is some hidden Iberian mixed in there, I could be mistaken though... If there is hidden iberian, his irish and greek could have been added on partially to the Iberian results, creating an even higher number.

[MINARDOWICZ]

No other explanation for it.

I score 14.1% Iberian which is obviously from my Portuguese side.

Cheating is an explenation and so is unknown Iberian + synthetic, which usually does not happen in such high percentages.

[JQP4545]

The Greek and Irish together probably combine in such a way that 23andme mistakes it for Iberian.

Actually the Italian, East Med, and East Balkan add up quite nicely to around 25% which accounts for the Greek. Lol, plus its Eurogenes not 23andMe. But some of my Chromosomes switch back and forth between British/Irish and Iberian on 23andMe when they redid the test. My uncle from the Greek/American side only scores 8% Iberian, so it is from the Irish/German/French Canadian (though I should only be 8% French which is exactly what the test says I am) side.

[MfA_]

Make a thread like How Arabian are you? that would be interesting :rolleyes:

[JQP4545]

23.54%
So you are fully Portuguese? I'm only 5.5% off...

[Damião de Góis]

So you are fully Portuguese? I'm only 5.5% off...

I am. But k36 has your ancestry broken into 36 little pieces, and i haven't seen anyone getting more than ~25% of anything.

[Tropico]

Iberian 17.72%

[Thrax]

5.79%

[Dombra]

I have not done any test but there its been said that my grandmother has Spanish blood :icon_redface:

[safinator]

11.25% on K36

[paksaltopam]

7.43%

[Wulf Talented]

13.21% K36

[Smaug]

17.93%? I'm less Iberian than you and I do have Portuguese ancestry: wtf? :P

[Patches]

13.01% on K36.

[Armatus]

13.90%

[JQP4545]

My mom (German, Irish, French Canadian):

20.68%

[Atlantic Islander]

K36 - Iberian 26.43%

[Atlantic Islander]

^

I am. But k36 has your ancestry broken into 36 little pieces, and i haven't seen anyone getting more than ~25% of anything.

:cool: :p

[JQP4545]

K36 - Iberian 26.43%

Interesting, my mom has no ancestry from Spain, but is close to what a fully Spanish person would get. Must be the Atlantid.

[Geni]

11,20%.........

[Maleficent]

Why K36?! That's one of the least accurate and most ridiculous ones---it has too many categories.

Anyways:

FQ: 9.38% Iberian on K36
FQ Maw: 12.16% Iberian on K36
FQ Dad: 0.00% Iberian on K36

[Mark]

9-10% on K36.

[JQP4545]

Why K36?! That's one of the least accurate and most ridiculous ones---it has too many categories.

Anyways:

FQ: 9.38% Iberian on K36
FQ Maw: 12.16% Iberian on K36
FQ Dad: 0.00% Iberian on K36

K36 is the only one with an Iberian calculator. How is it not accurate?

[Longbowman]

Why K36?! That's one of the least accurate and most ridiculous ones---it has too many categories.

Anyways:

FQ: 9.38% Iberian on K36
FQ Maw: 12.16% Iberian on K36
FQ Dad: 0.00% Iberian on K36

Which ones do you prefer?

11.09%

[Mark]

Why K36?! That's one of the least accurate and most ridiculous ones---it has too many categories.
So I guess you are against my idea of a K100 (the advanced overnight edition) :(

[Longbowman]

So I guess you are against my idea of a K100 (the advanced overnight edition) :(

K100? Weaksauce. K500 for me bro. All the way.

[Maleficent]

K36 is the only one with an Iberian calculator. How is it not accurate?

Looks like you haven't done enough exploring on the GEDmatch website. I suggest you check out MDLP K=10, MDLP K=11, and MDLP K=12.

[Maleficent]

Which ones do you prefer?I actually don't hate K36. I just think it's annoying and ridiculous with the 36 categories.

For example I think it's accurate in telling me my dad is around 14% Arabian since that matches up with him being around 14% Red Sea on K15 and K13, and him being around 14% South Bedouin on McDonald.

[Maleficent]

So I guess you are against my idea of a K100 (the advanced overnight edition) :(

Why?! So we can all end up around 1% of each category and not have a high percentage of anything?! That would most definitely suck.:(

[Longbowman]

Why?! So we can all end up around 1% of each category and not have a high percentage of anything?! That would most definitely suck.:(

Well, no, because we wouldn't all be getting results for all the categories.

[Mark]

Why?! So we can all end up around 1% of each category and not have a high percentage of anything?!
Yes.

[Maleficent]

Well, no, because we wouldn't all be getting results for all the categories.Well yes, I was exaggerating for dramatic effect, but you get the point.
Yes.Ah, I see Mark has a multicultural agenda. ;)

[JQP4545]

Looks like you haven't done enough exploring on the GEDmatch website. I suggest you check out MDLP K=10, MDLP K=11, and MDLP K=12.

13.51% according to MDLP K=10. How about you? I don't know what the averages are.

[JQP4545]

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 LTV + NITAL + SPN + NRW @ 2.155
2 GER + SPN + SRB + SWD @ 2.229
3 IBR + LTV + NITAL + NRW @ 2.235
4 FRN + GBRARG + MLD + NITAL @ 2.296
5 GER + MCD + SPN + SWD @ 2.458

[Mortimer]

Iberian 5.42%
Basque 2.39%

I dont know if that is more then usual

[Longbowman]

Iberian 5.42%
Basque 2.39%

I dont know if that is more then usual

It depends on who you are of course.

For a Western or Southern European, waaay less Iberian than is normal, but more Basque.

[Mortimer]

It depends on who you are of course.

For a Western or Southern European, waaay less Iberian than is normal, but more Basque.

lets say im a southeastern european because i doubt as a eastern european roma gypsy i would have any significant iberian

[Longbowman]

lets say im a southeastern european because i doubt as a eastern european roma gypsy i would have any significant iberian

I would say more Basque than I'd expect, and a about the right amount of Iberian.

[Gaita]

I'd say very much so.....I mean, just look at me...... :) I ooze Iberian! :D

[Sizzo]

K36: Italian 32.14% - Iberian 16.07% - North Sea 14.01%.

[aimar]

I'd say very much so.....I mean, just look at me...... :) I ooze Iberian! :D

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100%
The boina is the decisive element.

[Cristiano viejo]

Basques are Iberians, bunch of ignorants.

[Atlantic Islander]

Basques are Iberians, bunch of ignorants.

French Basques were used for the Basque component.

[Gaita]

100%
The boina is the decisive element.

That's the basque component..... :)

[Gaita]

My top 5

1. 33.10% Iberian
2. 13.84% Italian
3. 8.20% North Sea
4. 5.58% West Med
5. 4.54% North Atlantic/4.54% Basque

[Graham]

French Basques were used for the Basque component.

Is there any difference between the Northern & Southern Basque? We already have SW France that is Gascon & they are different.

[Graham]

-Iberian-8.80% Graham
9.19% Mum
8.73% Dad
-Basque-4.24% Graham
4.55% Mum
5.87% Dad

[Mark]

MDLP K=10 Iberian 10.74%

MDLP K=11 Iberian 10.42%

MDLP K=12 Iberian 10.28%

[Anglojew]

15.8%

[Rochefaton]

Iberian 10.77%
Basque 0%

[Maleficent]

MORE IBERIAN PERCENTAGES

FaerieQueene:

MDLP K=10: 7.36%
MDLP K=11: 7.05%
MDLP K=12: 6.93%

FQ Maw:

MDLP K=10: 12.21%
MDLP K=11: 11.64%
MDLP K=12: 11.24%

FQ Dad:

MDLP K=10: 4.43%
MDLP K=11: 4.39%
MDLP K=12: 4.50%

[Thor2009]

K36: 20.47% Iberian

I have no idea where this comes from.
I don't have any Iberian ancestry that I know of.

I'm of mostly British + German stock.

[Mark]

2.13% Basque (but this is from a French reference population, not Spain)

[Caismeachd]

Iberian 14.55%

[Longbowman]

MDLP K=10: 9.68%
MDLP K=11: 9.38%
MDLP K=12: 9.21%

[Jackson]

8.78% on K36.

[Romo]

46% iberian 23andme

[Atlantic Islander]

46% iberian 23andme

Eurogenes K36 not 23andme.

[Caismeachd]

Wonder why mine is so high when it doesn't show on 23andme

[Thor2009]

Wonder why mine is so high when it doesn't show on 23andme

Same here. I break 20% Iberian on K36, which is higher than some people here with known significant Iberian ancestry.
My 23andMe results only show 1.0% Iberian on Speculative, and even that completely disappears on Standard.

[Graham]

Wonder why mine is so high when it doesn't show on 23andme

23andme goes back 500 years on the AF. That is what they first said. Eurogenes will go back further. Could be some old Bell Beaker.

[gold_fenix]

34.55%

[The King, I am]

between 10 and 15%

[Caismeachd]

Same here. I break 20% Iberian on K36, which is higher than some people here with known significant Iberian ancestry.
My 23andMe results only show 1.0% Iberian on Speculative, and even that completely disappears on Standard.

I have .7 Southern European on specultive with 23andme. I was looking at my chromosome map on 23andme and my supposed southern euro and ashkenazi are on the same line which I thought was interesting. I suppose I must have ancestry especially since my Iberian results are higher than usual. I don't think 23andme is all that precise for some things though. Another Scottish member here scores 1% on 23andme as being Iberian but my med score on these tests is higher than his. Coincidentally on 23andme I score higher British despite the fact they are fully Scottish.

Which is more accurate? 23and me or gedmatch tests?

[Sea Warrior]

k36: 16.49%
MDLP K=10: 12.88%
MDLP K=11: 12.33%
MDLP K=12: 11.77%

[Longbowman]

I have .7 Southern European on specultive with 23andme. I was looking at my chromosome map on 23andme and my supposed southern euro and ashkenazi are on the same line which I thought was interesting. I suppose I must have ancestry especially since my Iberian results are higher than usual. I don't think 23andme is all that precise for some things though. Another Scottish member here scores 1% on 23andme as being Iberian but my med score on these tests is higher than his. Coincidentally on 23andme I score higher British despite the fact they are fully Scottish.

Which is more accurate? 23and me or gedmatch tests?

They're testing different things.

23andme is your ethnic composition from 500 years ago.

GEDmatch is more for ancient populations.

[Caismeachd]

But why is there so much divergence between the two? For example, a Scottidh member on the forum scores 1% Iberian on 23andme but low score on gedmatch test. Me, I am low score on 23andme for s euro but score a but high on gedmatch. I can't see how 23andme would be sophisticated enough to say "these are your results from 500 years ago precisely", I think it's more brute force than that and only measuring against the statistics they got from their samples. It's not as refined as you say. I guess the argument is which is more credible? 23andme is going for very broad populations they've tested themselves while gedmatch tests are more scrutinising perhaps. I really don't think they are as sophisticated to say "this is your ancestry from 500 years ago" "this is your ancestry from ancient migrations". It's just looking at what you have now compared to their population measurments. So which more is population sample is more accurate basically.

[portusaus]

27.62%

[Longbowman]

But why is there so much divergence between the two? For example, a Scottidh member on the forum scores 1% Iberian on 23andme but low score on gedmatch test. Me, I am low score on 23andme for s euro but score a but high on gedmatch. I can't see how 23andme would be sophisticated enough to say "these are your results from 500 years ago precisely", I think it's more brute force than that and only measuring against the statistics they got from their samples. It's not as refined as you say. I guess the argument is which is more credible? 23andme is going for very broad populations they've tested themselves while gedmatch tests are more scrutinising perhaps. I really don't think they are as sophisticated to say "this is your ancestry from 500 years ago" "this is your ancestry from ancient migrations". It's just looking at what you have now compared to their population measurments. So which more is population sample is more accurate basically.

Listen, bro. You're comparing 23andme's ancestral composition thing to GEDmatch's population percentage thing. GEDmatch has an ancestral composition calculator and it sucks. 23andme is hugely superior.

However, 23andme doesn't give you population breakdowns like GEDmatch does. They're two different things. 23andme's ancestral breakdown is very, very accurate for what it is.

GEDmatch is a very neat hobbyist tool that gives you an idea as to your ancient ancestry.

For example if you score Ashkenazi on 23andme, that's a mix of Southern European, MENA, and a bunch of other minor things. GEDmatch tells you what those are.

If you want an absolute answer as to which is relatively more accurate, it's 23andme.

[Caismeachd]

Thanks. That clarifies things a lof for me I suppose. Are there any better than 23andme? I've got ashkenazi and perpetual Finnish I have no clue about and it would be nice if I could understand it more.

[Anglojew]

K36: Italian 32.14% - Iberian 16.07% - North Sea 14.01%.

Did you see that you're famous (in the Scandinavian news) Loki had a link last week to it.

[Anglojew]

Iberian 15.80%
Basque 1.94%

[Longbowman]

Thanks. That clarifies things a lof for me I suppose. Are there any better than 23andme? I've got ashkenazi and perpetual Finnish I have no clue about and it would be nice if I could understand it more.

Not really. There's FTDNA and things but they're the same/a bit worse than 23andme. You could email Doug McDonald for another perspective but he's not always on the ball.

How much AJ/Finnish do you score? Those are fairly distinct populations within the European spectrum.

[Caismeachd]

lol I'm only .1 Ashkenazi and .4 Finnish on 23me but I still think it's interesting. They are rare in other people from the friends I have on 23me. With ancestry finder Finland is my third match only after UK and Ireland so it really is something I'm interested in.

[Longbowman]

lol I'm only .1 Ashkenazi and .4 Finnish on 23me but I still think it's interesting. They are rare in other people from the friends I have on 23me. With ancestry finder Finland is my third match only after UK and Ireland so it really is something I'm interested in.

A distant Finn in the family :)

[Caismeachd]

So according to 23me would that finn ancestor be 500 years ago? Where is the threshold for percentages? Likewise, would my ashkenazi ancestor then be be 1000 years ago? I really think 23me is full of crap and their 500 year thing is only targeted towards Americans that are ambiguous about their ancestry so that 23me can give them vague results and they can applaud themselves afterwards.

[Longbowman]

So according to 23me would that finn ancestor be 500 years ago? Where is the threshold for percentages? Likewise, would my ashkenazi ancestor then be be 1000 years ago? I really think 23me is full of crap and their 500 year thing is only targeted towards Americans that are ambiguous about their ancestry so that 23me can give them vague results and they can applaud themselves afterwards.

0.4 = ~ 1/256 or one great x6 grandparent, or 8 generations back. We're probably talking late 1700s.
0.1 = ~ 1/1024 or one great x8 grandparent, or 10 generations back. We're probably talking early 1700s.

Of course there could be more 'hidden' in the unspecified section.

[Caismeachd]

I have kind of weird dna. I'm mostly British but I have all of western Europe (Including Scandinavia) then the fringes of Ashkenazi and Suomi. Would be so cool to trace it. A lot of stories to tell. I can only think I must have had a Swede ancestor mix with a Finn and keep moving westwards. Ashkenazi may be an error since it's only .1 but on another thread I was told it was certain so I don't know. My Ashkenazi cousins are from Russia and Germany on 23me.

[Sizzo]

Did you see that you're famous (in the Scandinavian news) Loki had a link last week to it.

Yes. I don't understand why they stigmatized just me.

[Anglojew]

Yes. I don't understand why they stigmatized just me.

I think it's more that you have a striking look but I can understand why you'd feel that way. It was ironic they were complaining about how this forum classifies people and then they judged you. You should really email them a complaint.

On the otherhand I'd take it as a compliment. No such thing as bad publicity.

[Sizzo]

I think it's more that you have a striking look but I can understand why you'd feel that way. It was ironic they were complaining about how this forum classifies people and then they judged you. You should really email them a complaint.

On the otherhand I'd take it as a compliment. No such thing as bad publicity.

Yes, indeed: free spot for me.
BTW you know, democracy is the new way of Fascism.

[jlusk99]

I'm another that has a high Iberian score. The most recent known Iberian ancestor I have is a Canarian 4th great grandfather that came to Louisiana in the 1700s. So I would expect some Iberian. My K36 is over 19% for Iberian -- can't remember the exact number right now. But I think there is only one other person I've seen on here with a number that high that isn't of primarily actual Spanish/Portugese heritage. It is possible some of my French is showing up as Iberian. I only get about 7% French but one of my grandparents is primarily French. The other 3 grandparents are primarily British Isles. There must be a connection with between the Iberians and the original Britons.

Another possiblity is that some people's N. Atlantic shows up as Iberian. My 2 highest scores on all the calculators are N. Altantic and N. Sea, usually at very close to the same percentage. But I only get just under 10% North Atlantic here on K36. My 3 highest percentages on K36 are North Sea, Iberian and Italian, and I have no known Italian ancestry.

[JoeyGee8688]

GED is down-ish again, but as I recall I got about 6 or 7 percent on there.

[Yehiel]

im a whopping 10.02%

[firemonkey]

Iberian 13.51%

[JohnSmith]

I have no idea

[Geni]

11,20%

[Highlands]

12.99%

[Loki]

It says 15.16% Iberian for me. Weird.

[Raikaswinþs]

Maternal Family-Tree: Traced back to 1334 and all concentrated in the Basque/Cantabrian/Burgalese corner.

Paternal Family-Tree: Somewhat more "diverse" (A town in Avila, Extremadura and Basquelands are confirmed) Traced back to the 1560's in some lines, but nowhere near as complete (from my great grandfather generation and beyond I could only follow one line, for the others there are no record in the village since one arrived from Avila and the other one from Basquelands.

[SwampThing26]

14.14%

[azorean-dude]

K36 - 24.25% Iberian


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[jtoml3]

23andMe - 15.34%
FTDNA - 14.54%

[Pony]

Eurogenes K36
Iberian - 11.41%

23andme
0%

[Petalpusher]

Eurogenes K36
Iberian - 11.41%

23andme
0%

This is the most confusing calculator for beginners, everything is mislabeled in the common understanding of the terms or recent ancestry, and the Oracle is incredibly wrong, that's why it isn't on gedmatch. There is some interesting bits to read into it but people should begin with the reference and well tuned calculators, like the K13,K15,K7 and some MDLP/Dodecad, before this one.

[Lawalye]

K36: 9,9%
23andme: 1,4%

[Annie999]

16%

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

17%

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

17%

Oops, I just read for Eurogenes K36. For me it's 6.22% there.

[de Burgh II]

Iberian: 14.22%

Basque: 4.49%

French: 9.64%

[SupaThug]

Never did a genetic test to tell,but most of my ancestry is Iberian!

[firemonkey]

23 and me K36: 13.04
FTDNA K36: 13.51

[Cristiano viejo]

Iberian: 14.22%

Basque: 4.49%

French: 9.64%
Basques are Iberians, in this life and in the other.

[jtoml3]

23andMe - 15.34%
FTDNA - 14.54%

Normal amount for someone with English ancestry? I am haplogroup V which apparently originated from Iberia which may or may not have an influence on the results.

[Rocinante]

K36:
Iberian: 22.49%
Basque: 4.57%

DNA.LAND:
Southwestern European: 25%

Iberian Union!

[Annie999]

Paper ancestry: 25%

23andme: First 16% after update 31%
AncestryDNA: 21%
DNA Land 25%
FtDNA: 22%
MyHeritage: 26%

[Ritz06]

Eurogenes k36: Iberian 4.54 and Basque 0.69

Dnaland: Southwestern European 5.7%

Gencove: Southwestern European 6%

[Stratagos]

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[calxpal]

15.79% on Eurogenes k36. Southern French ancestry from my French Canadian side could be a good contributor I think.
23andme: 1.7%

[rein]

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That’s a little low. I thought you were googolplex Iberian.

[GreentheViper]

3.85

[Longbowman]

On paper slightly over 8% Iberian Sephardic

On 23andme 0.6%, which represents a very high proportion of my Sephardic ancestry. However most (over 7.8%) is converso, and contemporary pure converso populations like the Belmonte Jews (from whom I am descended) are over 30% ethnic Iberian so this is not a surprise.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Viriato:

23andMe: 51.2% Iberian

Eurogenes K36: 3.8% Basque and 19.19% Iberian

Mrs. Viriato:

23andMe: 87.2% Iberian

Eurogenes K36: 6.54% Basque and 30.33% Iberian

[Lauχum]

Eurogenes K36

Iberian: 12.89%

Basque: 3.68%

[Trentino]

Paper ancestry: 25%

23andme: First 16% after update 31%
AncestryDNA: 21%
DNA Land 25%
FtDNA: 22%
MyHeritage: 26%


Is it possible to get this study done without sending my saliva overseas? Any local laboratory provide this service? (I m from Mdeo)

[Rocinante]

Iberian 22.21 Pct
Basque 3.76 Pct

Total = 25.97%

[Luso]

22.58+3.54=26.12%

[Blemoir]

Iberian 22.24 Pct + Basque 4.14 Pct = 26.38%

I thought it was too low. But now I saw that other Iberian descendants also had a low percentage.

[Rocinante]

Iberian 22.24 Pct + Basque 4.14 Pct = 26.38%

I thought it was too low. But now I saw that other Iberian descendants also had a low percentage.

Nice, you won me. Where you from?

[Blemoir]

Nice, you won me. Where you from?

Lol. I'm from southern brazil.

[Rocinante]

Lol. I'm from southern brazil.

Are you of pure euro ancestry? Seems to be that's a common pattern in southern Brazil.

[Blemoir]

Are you of pure euro ancestry? Seems to be that's a common pattern in southern Brazil.

Not pure euro, I'm 3/4 colonial brazilian (mostly portuguese with traces of SSA and amerindian) and 1/4 southern italian. And you?

[Chris596]

For me Eurogenes K36 is one of the least accurate calculators. Even my Balkan score is lower than the Iberian but 85-90% of my recent ancestry is from the Balkans (makes no sense???) I think it's confused with other Southern-European elements in my case.

Iberian 6.27%
Basque 1.69%

[gixajo]

Pensaba que era el hilo de siempre, pero este es otro...

Me:

34.22 Iberian
11.07 Basque

45.29 Total

My father:

34.92 Iberian
11.66 Basque

46.58 total

[Rocinante]

Not pure euro, I'm 3/4 colonial brazilian (mostly portuguese with traces of SSA and amerindian) and 1/4 southern italian. And you?

I'm 3/4 iberian and 1/4 italian, that's why i get the amounts of Iberian and the small portion of basque.

[Blemoir]

I'm 3/4 iberian and 1/4 italian, that's why i get the amounts of Iberian and the small portion of basque.

Nice, ancestry very similar to mine.

[Gallop]

Iberian 22.66 Pct
Basque 10.27 Pct

Total: 32.93

[JamesBond007]

I only get : 4.69 percent Iberian and 4.88% Basque


That might be too much too. I don't know that I trust Eurogenes K36 for various reasons. Longbowman has called it too ambitious. For instance, English people are anywhere from about 25% all the way up to 40% (some places in Yorkshire with 38% average for East England) North-Sea Saxon/Firsian admixture and Eurogenes K36 says I am only 20.02% North-Sea meanwhile Eurogenes K15 says I am 35.90% or 36% North-Sea . Obviously, both can't be right.

[gixajo]

I only get : 4.69 percent Iberian.

That might be too much too. I don't know that I trust Eurogenes K36 for various reasons. Longbowman has called it too ambitious. For instance, English people are anywhere from about 25% all the way up to 40% (some places in Yorkshire with 38% average for East England) North-Sea Saxon/Firsian admixture and Eurogenes K36 says I am only 20.02% North-Sea meanwhile Eurogenes K15 says I am 35.90% or 36% North-Sea . Obviously, both can't be right.

36 components vs 15...

If 15 components become 36, each component is rearranged into more, and the percentages go down.

k13 or k15 usually are more similar to each other for this reason, and I agree that these two work better than the k36.

[gixajo]

Double.

[JamesBond007]

36 components vs 15...

If 15 components become 36, each component is rearranged into more, and the percentages go down.

k13 or k15 usually are more similar to each other for this reason, and I agree that these two work better than the k36.

Yep, the map here (based on k36) has me slightly more Dutch than English :

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Meanwhile, the updated Vahaduo K13 AND k15 both have me as Midlands English. So K13 and K15 are more accurate.

[Luso]

Not pure euro, I'm 3/4 colonial brazilian (mostly portuguese with traces of SSA and amerindian) and 1/4 southern italian. And you?

YOu got more Iberian than me and I'm from Portugal haha

[Blemoir]

YOu got more Iberian than me and I'm from Portugal haha

Yeah lol. Typical gedmatch weird calculator.

[**JC**]

Iberian 13.98%

[Annie999]

10.46 %

[Scandal]

Iberian 6.86 Pct

[Dean K]

I get at Eurogenes K36 on one Kit 8% on the other 10% thats pretty.

[gixajo]

Updated with my mother results.

Me:

34.22 Iberian
11.07 Basque
---------------
45.29 Total

My father:

34.92 Iberian
11.66 Basque
----------------
46.58 total

My mother:

30.38 Iberian
14.07 Basque
----------------
44.45 Total

:noidea:

[gixajo]

double

[Rocinante]

Updated with my mother results.

Me:

34.22 Iberian
11.07 Basque
---------------
45.29 Total

My father:

34.92 Iberian
11.66 Basque
----------------
46.58 total

My mother:

30.38 Iberian
14.07 Basque
----------------
44.45 Total

:noidea:

Al final tu padre sera el mas cerca a la raza maestra, asi sea el que menos saque el negro-steppe ese y ni se diga los negritos de ojos azules WHG.

[gixajo]

Al final tu padre sera el mas cerca a la raza maestra, asi sea el que menos saque el negro-steppe ese y ni se diga los negritos de ojos azules WHG.

:noidea:

[mitalit]

Al final tu padre sera el mas cerca a la raza maestra, asi sea el que menos saque el negro-steppe ese y ni se diga los negritos de ojos azules WHG.

Y siendo r1a tiene mas merito aun

[Rocinante]

¿Raza maestra? XD

Claro, la raza maestra, tu sabes cual es.


:noidea:

Las cosas de la vida, querido amigo gixajo.


Y siendo r1a tiene mas merito aun

La verdad es que tiene un merito increible ser de una linea paternal que se dedicaba a vender Matrioshkas como souvenirs en Moscu, emigrar por los 1800s a Andalucia, tierra mora y judia, y luego en los 1900s, terminar en Euskadi, para que saque unos resultados como esos la verdad.

[Rocinante]

Conociéndote con raza maestra te referirás a los que son R1b, sobretodo los R1b-P312/S116 ¿No? xD

Nah, nada que ver con el haplogrupo, si no el ser español como tal.

[gixajo]

Claro, la raza maestra, tu sabes cual es.



Las cosas de la vida, querido amigo gixajo.



La verdad es que tiene un merito increible ser de una linea paternal que se dedicaba a vender Matrioshkas como souvenirs en Moscu, emigrar por los 1800s a Andalucia, tierra mora y judia, y luego en los 1900s, terminar en Euskadi, para que saque unos resultados como esos la verdad.

A ver si va a ser un R1a de la India...;)

[Rocinante]

A ver si va a ser un R1a de la India...;)

Todo indica que los Z93 de la peninsula iberia, o son escitas por origen o son remanentes de judios, la primera opcion es muy probable, la segunda poca probable.

Me quedo con el ruso de Moscu que vendia Matrioshkas en la Plaza Roja.

[gixajo]

Todo indica que los Z93 de la peninsula iberia, o son escitas por origen o son remanentes de judios, la primera opcion es muy probable, la segunda poca probable.

Me quedo con el ruso de Moscu que vendia Matrioshkas en la Plaza Roja.

Ya se verá, tengo la esperanza que 23andme me diga algo más que M-417.

[Rocinante]

Ya se verá, tengo la esperanza que 23andme me diga algo más que M-417.

Mencione el Z93 nada mas porque son los unicos R1a que se suele sacar por estos lados, pero no descarto que vayas a ser una excepcion. Ojala sea asi, seria interesante que saques el clado comun en el Este de Europa, asi nos podemos meter contigo con mas facilidad.

[gixajo]

Mencione el Z93 nada mas porque son los unicos R1a que se suele sacar por estos lados, pero no descarto que vayas a ser una excepcion. Ojala sea asi, seria interesante que saques el clado comun en el Este de Europa, asi nos podemos meter contigo con mas facilidad.

Trataré de facilitaros todo lo que pueda el que podáis meteros conmigo con más facilidad, no faltaba más!!!

[Russki]

https://sun9-86.userapi.com/impg/fchrNtcJafp8FrqK3aLi2mwn_3kBpaBMNuH4Sg/gcxIrDyVGrA.jpg?size=1000x1230&quality=95&sign=c522941206359a380bdef27741b270e3&type=album

[Selene]

https://sun9-64.userapi.com/impg/6U8yOmmnpb4poVaaYBS7FdJO7J9ZnPAsG-qMbA/TnCk8o7zoYM.jpg?size=1000x1300&quality=96&sign=9995d47f3ca69b423e5aae869f8fd234&type=album

[Jingle Bell]

Iberian 16.52 Pct

[Eurafricanid]

18.5% :thumb001:

[Gallop]

22.66 Pct

[HelloGuys]

Iberian 25.15%
Basque 4.15%

Total: 29.3%

[Gallop]

Mine

Largest segment = 5.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 5.7cM (0.16 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

584811 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.41 Pct SNPs are full identical

Father

Largest segment = 7.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 7.2cM (0.201 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

178980 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.745 Pct SNPs are full identical


Me with the Russian and my father with the Croatian. :cool:


1836-1848 aprox.

Thanks!

[Kriptc06]

Iberian 18 Pct

It's a little over 50% in actuality, part of it colonial, Portuguese and little Spanish, and recently post colonial Portuguese - 1/8

[HelloGuys]

I am. But k36 has your ancestry broken into 36 little pieces, and i haven't seen anyone getting more than ~25% of anything.

Me ;)

[vader]

22.58 iberian + 3.54 basque = 26.12 iberian :)

[gixajo]

I am. But k36 has your ancestry broken into 36 little pieces, and i haven't seen anyone getting more than ~25% of anything.


Me ;)

:rolleyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/cL2RmBNW/iberiank35.png (https://postimages.org/)

[Eurafricanid]

18.5% :thumb001:

If I add it up with Basque it's 19.84%.

[Gallop]

Mine- Russ

Largest segment = 5.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 5.7cM (0.16 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

584811 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.41 Pct SNPs are full identical

Father-Croatia

Largest segment = 7.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 7.2cM (0.201 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

178980 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.745 Pct SNPs are full identical


Me with the Russian and my father with the Croatian. :cool:


Year 1836-1848 aprox.

Thanks!

Mine

Iberian 22.66 Pct + basque 10.27 Pct = 32,93


Father

Iberian 31.4 Pct + basque 8.61 Pct = 40,01

[HelloGuys]

:rolleyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/cL2RmBNW/iberiank35.png (https://postimages.org/)

You :D :rolleyes:

[alnortedelsur]

Iberian 18.87 Pct

Basque 5.59 Pct

Total = 24.96% Iberian

[Ellethwyn]

24.57%

and 4.06% Basque