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Kipchak Håkan
12-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Some researchers have attempted to trace various place names to Cimmerian origins. It has been suggested that Crimea is named after the Cimmerians. However, the name "Crimea" is traceable to the Crimean Tatar (Turkic) word qırım (my steppe, hill), and the peninsula was known as Taurica, (Peninsula) of the Tauri, in antiquity (Strabo 7.4.1; Herodotus 4.99.3, Amm. Marc. 22.8.32).

Based on ancient Greek historical sources, a Thracian or a Celtic association is sometimes assumed. According to Ferdinand Friedrich Carl Lehmann-Haupt, the language of the Cimmerians could have been a "missing link" between Thracian and Iranian.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimmerians#Language)

Taurica, Tauric Chersonese, and Taurida were names by which the territory of the Crimean Peninsula was known to the Greeks and Romans. The Greeks named the region after its inhabitants, the Tauri: Ταυρικὴ Χερσόνησος (Taurikē Khersonesos) or Χερσόνησος Ταυρική (Khersonesos Taurikē), "Tauric peninsula". Chersonesus Taurica is the Latin version of the Greek name (chersonese literally means "peninsula"). This Latin variant of the name should not be confused with the city of Chersonesus in Taurica.

As the Tauri inhabited only mountainous regions of southern Crimea, at first the name was used only for this southern part, but later it was extended to the whole peninsula.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Map_of_Colchis%2C_Iberia%2C_Albania%2C_and_the_nei ghbouring_countries_ca_1770.jpg
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurica)

The Tauri (Ταῦροι in Ancient greek), also Scythotauri, Tauri Scythae, Tauroscythae (Pliny, H. N. 4.85) were a people settling on the southern coast of the Crimea peninsula, inhabiting the Crimean Mountains and the narrow strip of land between the mountains and the Black Sea. They gave their name to the peninsula, which was known in ancient times as Taurica, Taurida and Tauris.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Roman_Empire_125.png
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauri)

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Let's summarize: Taurica meant "mountainous landscape". And now let's come to the Celtic tribe, the Taurisci (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurisci). The denotation probably stems from Celtic taur meaning "mountain", as in Tauern, and therefore may also refer to highlanders in general.

And here comes the freaking break in the logic: tau/tağ/tav (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/da%C4%9F#Turkish) in Turkic languages means "mountain" and er (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/er#Turkish) means "man, tribesman", so generalized Tauer means "highlander" in Turkic.

So, what the fuck is going on here? discuss...

Shah-Jehan
12-30-2013, 09:17 PM
They were probably IE, maybe Thracian colonists with an Iranic minority?