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Östsvensk
11-20-2009, 12:13 AM
I have written farewell and debated about this in earlier posts, but not in a thread of it's own.

I actually do not have problems with individuals of mixed-race on a forum, as I don't consider myself a racist. I used to do that when I was younger, but I have matured. To put it simple, I treat people as they treat me.

The reason why I choose to sign off is because it seems that a lot of people on this board seems to have problems with my political views and the political organisation in my country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_%28Sweden%29) that I sometimes have something to do with. I am, what you generally call it, a "Nazi". I simply cannot be friends with someone who spits on me and this organisation wanting a more stable and safe country to live in. An enemy of the Popular front, is an enemy of me. That's how it is.

So goodbye. Even if you will spit on me and not wishing me good luck, I will still wish that to you. :)

Loki
11-20-2009, 12:15 AM
Farewell, Swedish friend. Farväl, svenska vän!! :) I wish you well. :) May you prosper not only online, but also in real life -- I hope you find a lovely Swedish woman, and start a family to produce wonderful blonde little Swedish children. There is not enough of them around. My best wishes to you, friend!!

http://www.identitiesonline.com/images/pride/swedishPride1.jpg

http://www.bcn2010.org/files/13-10380-imatge/Kluft_CarolinaHJ5-Gotzis06.jpg

The Lawspeaker
11-20-2009, 12:16 AM
Goodbye and take care. Too bad that the exchange of ideas didn't seem to work. I would have liked it if you would have been more able to see the good things about other systems as well..

This could have been very interesting indeed. National Socialism still has some interesting ideas that don't seem to be highlighted enough.

Gooding
11-20-2009, 12:17 AM
Good luck to you, Ostsvensk.

007
11-20-2009, 12:18 AM
I don't think that's what was meant by nutzi. I think they mean the nutzi forum dorks rather than real political parties

anonymaus
11-20-2009, 12:21 AM
It's too bad. I really enjoy your contribution to the forum and particularly the anti-miscegenation group.

I think you may be misunderstanding our usage of the term nutzi; in my case, at least, you are.

Moreover, your oversensitivity to what is thought - or said - about you by people whose opinions you presumably do not think highly of is silly. Stiffen your spine.

Östsvensk
11-20-2009, 12:26 AM
Goodbye and take care. Too bad that the exchange of ideas didn't seem to work. I would have liked it if you would have been more able to see the good things about other systems as well..

This could have been very interesting indeed. National Socialism still has some interesting ideas that don't seem to be highlighted enough.

I don't necessary consider myself a National Socialist. I just think distancing myself from the term would make me a coward. I am open to possibilities otherwise. :p

Just because I call myself "radical" doesn't mean I dislike others who want to be more "careful". Yet the latter seems to dislike me anyway. But that's how life is, I guess. ;)

Fortis in Arduis
11-20-2009, 12:27 AM
The nutzis have mostly left the forum, but I never thought that you were one.

Why are you leaving?

I am always open to a right-wing revisionist re-appraisal of national-socialism. That is why I am not a nutzi.

Perhaps a nutzi is one who glorifies element of NS failure.

Brännvin
11-20-2009, 12:31 AM
The reason why I choose to sign off is because it seems that a lot of people on this board seems to have problems with my political views and the political organisation in my country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_%28Sweden%29) that I sometimes have something to do with. I am, what you generally call it, a "Nazi".

First all, they are not a white nationalist party as erroneous was written on the wikipedia but an ethno-nationalist party where only people of Swedish Scandinavian origin are accepted as members. My only objection against them it is a tendency to authoritarianism that's why I actually support the Nationaldemokraterna, they has the same racial ideology however defend a state democratic.

But, I respect the members of Folkfronten, mainly these kids on suburbs of large Swedish cities where it has nothing to lose anymore with the current situation.

Wölfin
11-20-2009, 12:35 AM
Perhaps a nutzi is one who glorifies element of NS failure.

You've hit the nail on the head. At least this is what my perception of a "Nutzi" is. It is also addressed to those who brandish it as an emblem without knowing the full extent of its meaning (good or bad). It is the "social" perception of what a Nazi is versus the "true definition".

To Östsvensk, I wish you the best in life.

Loki
11-20-2009, 12:36 AM
Sverige åt svenskarna !!

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Östsvensk
11-20-2009, 12:41 AM
First all, they are not a white nationalist party as erroneous was written on the wikipedia but an ethno-nationalist party where only people of Swedish Scandinavian origin are accepted as members. My only objection against them it is a tendency to authoritarianism that's why I actually support the Nationaldemokraterna, they has the same racial ideology however defend a state democratic.

But, I respect the members of Folkfronten, mainly these kids on suburbs of large Swedish cities where it has nothing to lose anymore with the current situation.

Their party program is the same principles as of "Nazism". You are absolutely right that they are no white nationalists though.

When I saw the "anti-Nutzi" group, I assumed that the people who were in it attacked National Socialism, my inspiration and the person who made me what I am today. That is a friend of mine.

Loki
11-20-2009, 12:50 AM
Their party program is the same principles as of "Nazism". You are absolutely right that they are no white nationalists though.

When I saw the "anti-Nutzi" group, I assumed that the people who were in it attacked National Socialism, my inspiration and the person who made me what I am today. That is a friend of mine.

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz350/rosco_sandy/crying%20tags/cry_smiley6.png

We are your friends. Your real friends, not only those who assume to be in order to attain internet fame. We don't.

Absinthe
11-20-2009, 01:04 AM
Loki, you're drunk as fuck! :lmao :pound:

Loki
11-20-2009, 01:07 AM
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Absinthe
11-20-2009, 01:08 AM
The TNpricity :victory0:

Loki
11-20-2009, 01:15 AM
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http://www.nationalgeographic.com/traveler/images/resources/tp_sweden.jpg

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Gooding
11-20-2009, 01:22 AM
Thanks for the pics, Loki! :) Sweden looks like a beautiful country.

Loki
11-20-2009, 01:25 AM
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Absinthe
11-20-2009, 01:29 AM
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_01/ulrikaBIG0110_468x657.jpg

WTF? :D

Smaland
11-20-2009, 01:52 AM
Goodbye, good luck, and I hope that you have a good life. No insults from here.

Loddfafner
11-20-2009, 02:00 AM
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/traveler/images/resources/tp_sweden.jpg


Ah yes, I got my mjollnir along with a massive drinking horn, almost a drinking pitcher, in the shop in the far left of this picture. If you go down the alley between the buildings about one block, there is a runestone embedded in a building.

Brännvin
11-20-2009, 02:48 AM
Their party program is the same principles as of "Nazism". You are absolutely right that they are no white nationalists though.


In fact, a new swedish national socialist version, however, there is no imperialist character between them, in a way or other they are just an authoritarian ethnonationalist party. I am not a member and I do nor intend to be but respect they a lot, my heart party is the ND (Nationaldemokraterna). Although given the situation in Sweden next year I'll vote for the SD, they are already the fourth most popular party in the country


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I also am leaving the forum at least to some few weeks to see what will happen at the moment I do not agree with the current liberal and relativistic atmosphere. I hope Fjällräv and Loki make a good decision for the future forum and good luck to them, I really like it. I hope come back during the Saint Lucy's day :P..

Cheers.....

Eldritch
11-20-2009, 10:40 AM
Well, what can I say. Sorry to see you go. But you should keep in mind that most people on this forum are capable of respectful disagreement. And you can always ignore the ones who aren't.

National Socialism is a beautiful utopia. I'd choose it over the current system in half a heartbeat. But the problem is that the moment you mention the term, you'll have alienated 99.9% of the population, sat down on a Claymore and handed the detonator to your political opponents.

Why not just take a short break and come back when you've had a chance to cool off a little.

Anthropos
11-20-2009, 10:53 AM
I have written farewell and debated about this in earlier posts, but not in a thread of it's own.

I actually do not have problems with individuals of mixed-race on a forum, as I don't consider myself a racist. I used to do that when I was younger, but I have matured. To put it simple, I treat people as they treat me.

The reason why I choose to sign off is because it seems that a lot of people on this board seems to have problems with my political views and the political organisation in my country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_%28Sweden%29) that I sometimes have something to do with. I am, what you generally call it, a "Nazi". I simply cannot be friends with someone who spits on me and this organisation wanting a more stable and safe country to live in. An enemy of the Popular front, is an enemy of me. That's how it is.

So goodbye. Even if you will spit on me and not wishing me good luck, I will still wish that to you. :)

I haven't seen this thread until now.

I don't have an opinion on Folkfronten. Maybe you can clarify some things concerning this party? I have read their program, but as is usually the case, it leaves a lot of room for the imagination. I have also debated with people from Folkfronten, but nothing much was clarified by it.

Is it true that Folkfronten wants to throw out (expel by force, that is) as good as all immigrants? If so, who will they allow to stay?

Does Folkfronten want to put a eugenic program into effect? If so, then of what sort?

Best regards.

Vulpix
11-20-2009, 10:56 AM
Frankly I think you took the anti-Nutzi social group wayyy too seriously. My intention was never spit on those whose ideology is National Socialism. "Nutzi" is a term I understood as a mock term for spectacularly retarded NSers (especially those who populate teh internet forumlands!11!), and from what I've seen from you you obviously don't belong to that category.

I cannot agree that rejecting totalitarianism implies to be anti-white. I understand its appeal to some people but personally I'm way too much of an individualist to be a fan.

Anyway, sorry to see you go and best of luck with everything.

Anthropos
11-20-2009, 11:08 AM
Frankly I think you took the anti-Nutzi social group wayyy too seriously. My intention was never spit on those whose ideology is National Socialism. "Nutzi" is a term I understood as a mock term for spectacularly retarded NSers (especially those who populate teh internet forumlands!11!), and from what I've seen from you you obviously don't belong to that category.

I was going to ask whether the group is a reaction to a reaction, or to actual National Socialism. Is it a reaction against real life National Socialists? It doesn't appear to be, but on the other hand, what the hell is it a reaction to? :confused: The media stereotype of a 'nazi', perhaps?

Loki
11-20-2009, 11:39 AM
I was going to ask whether the group is a reaction to a reaction, or to actual National Socialism. Is it a reaction against real life National Socialists? It doesn't appear to be, but on the other hand, what the hell is it a reaction to? :confused: The media stereotype of a 'nazi', perhaps?

This thread (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10780) should answer at least some of your questions.

Östsvensk
11-20-2009, 11:55 AM
I haven't seen this thread until now.

I don't have an opinion on Folkfronten. Maybe you can clarify some things concerning this party? I have read their program, but as is usually the case, it leaves a lot of room for the imagination. I have also debated with people from Folkfronten, but nothing much was clarified by it.

Is it true that Folkfronten wants to throw out (expel by force, that is) as good as all immigrants? If so, who will they allow to stay?

Does Folkfronten want to put a eugenic program into effect? If so, then of what sort?

Best regards.

Folkfronten wants to reappraise citizenships given out to most immigrants that came here after the Palme-era (in the 70s and later). They do not see a reason to reappraise citizenships (at least not in bigger numbers) for those who came before, since these, according to the party, haven't affected the Swedish gene pool in any bigger extent.

As far as I know, they do not speak of eugenics. I remember that I asked the old NSF if they wanted to sterilise some immigrants, and they said no even then.


I cannot agree that rejecting totalitarianism implies to be anti-white. I understand its appeal to some people but personally I'm way too much of an individualist to be a fan.

I never implied that it was anti-white to reject totalitarianism. Liking or disliking a society where more responsibility is taken and the leader thinks of his people instead of being fat and only thinks of his money is individual too, I guess. I implied that it was anti-white to use anti-white curses (such as "Nazi" and "right-wing"). Even the National Democrats, being for democracy, is referred to as a "Nazi party" in the media.


Anyway, sorry to see you go and best of luck with everything.

Thanks.

Inese
11-20-2009, 12:01 PM
Hello Östsvensk i am sorry that you leave!! :( I will really miss your pro North European views ---- there are not many here with our views

All the best!!

Anthropos
11-20-2009, 01:42 PM
This thread (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10780) should answer at least some of your questions.

'White Power Rangers'... sounds like a hockey team.

Anyway, despite having no 'nutzism' to defend, I find the group icon to be offensive. I don't think that it's good enough for a complaint, that's all.

Loki
11-20-2009, 01:48 PM
'White Power Rangers'... sounds like a hockey team.

Anyway, despite having no 'nutzism' to defend, I also find the group icon to be offensive. I don't think that it's good enough for a complaint, that's all.

There are lots of things that are considered offensive by various people for various reasons on a discussion forum. It is not compulsory to belong to that group, or read its contents.

Aemma
11-20-2009, 01:54 PM
Aww too bad Östsvensk, I was enjoying your posts. Well I do hope that this is just a little break and that you do come back eventually. The overall respectful tone that you kept in your posts was refreshing to see. :)

Cheerio but please come back!...Aemma :)

Jamt
11-20-2009, 05:57 PM
I dont think you should leave yet Östsvensk. If you are a nuzy you are a sane and calm one and therby not a nuzy by default. Also Folkfronten in the new shape deservs som respekt.

Fred
11-20-2009, 06:06 PM
Oestsvensk's removal is a loss to the quality of the forum. This is only meant as a complement to both him and the leadership. We need more people like him here. I appreciated his Nordic focus as paramount, for myself if not others of other folkways.

Arrow Cross
11-21-2009, 07:28 PM
A great poster leaving. Salutations to your consistency, and I wish you the best of luck as well.

Loki
11-21-2009, 08:45 PM
Loki, you're drunk as fuck! :lmao :pound:

Yes I was (and am on my way again ... :p ).

Often one's true feelings come to the fore when inebriated, and more emotional than ever. I'm a true fan of Sweden, and always was. Stockholm is my favourite city, and the Swedish my favourite ethnicity (besides my own).

Germanicus
11-21-2009, 08:45 PM
It's a shame you are leaving....but i humbly think it is better to stay, this place needs ideas, properly thought out agendas, with topics that will stimulate growth to new and radical approach for the future of Europe that is fast becoming more threatened culturally everyday....think about it?

Bari
11-22-2009, 11:52 AM
See you at GW:)