Is white race really dying out?

[DE-CODER]

Ok, seems like everyone is keen to be in a relationship with White-skin person.
South Asians (specially Indians are possessed with blondes), Arabs and Africans all want to be with white people. Even Asians, Indians and black people have stopped dating/marriage to their own races, if not all but majority. Hinduism is on high rise in Western countries.

And after reviewing all that I don't think that White race would even survive after 2100.:confused:

[Tropico]

Does it matter? As long as the human race survives by 2100, Im good.

[DE-CODER]

Does it matter? As long as the human race survives by 2100, Im good.

It does matter ... history, lineage, culture, heritage.
So, you don't have any problem if there won't be a white person after 2100?

[Kiyant]

What a stupid idea

[DE-CODER]

What a stupid idea

O really?
Talk about culture and heritage and to save something and that goes stupid, sounds amazing!:rolleyes:

[silver_surfer]

I've thought about this and looked into it even though I am not white. Right now the white population is around 1 billion. At the current rate it will actually decrease over time. The thing to remember is that trends don't mean anything for the most part. According to trends 100 years ago england would still be the most powerful country in the world today and white people would be the largest population. There are sure to be wars/plagues/water shortages in the future which should break up the trends with third world countries being the hardest hit as they don't have the tools to cope with it. Its all very unpredictable and we'll have to wait to see what happens.

[Tropico]

It does matter ... history, lineage, culture, heritage.
So, you don't have any problem if there won't be a white person after 2100?

So what? What if Native Americans became completely wiped out genetically and everyone of them was mixed? Human peoples, ethnicities, cultures, have gone extinct before or they have merged with other cultures and became something new. Its culture, its ever changing. If you think ANY culture will be the same as it is now in 2100, thats a delusion. But anyways the "White" race will be fine by 2100. The amount of racial admixture for pure White people to become extinct is so major that its just not gonna happen, at least not by 2100.

[portusaus]

At the current rate, yes. But it can be stopped by mobilization of millions of people that care, and lots of protesting and information spreading until other humans are forced to leave Europe. Current governments will not support this unless the people take very drastic action that would result in it being the best option for the corrupt wealthy individuals in those governments.

Of course, the Jews will oppose this. We must be wary.

[Methusalem]

Yes it is blame me. I am a Jew.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/621/193/b24.png

[Orthogonal]

If the same trend of the present population statistics of the world is not changed, then most probably yes.

[Kiyant]

O really?
Talk about culture and heritage and to save something and that goes stupid, sounds amazing!:rolleyes:

The "white" race wont die out not in the next 400 years or beyond people who say this shit are mostly rightwing racist who have fear of other people

[DE-CODER]

Then what's this if population is not decreasing?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/27/article-0-17322BD2000005DC-474_634x488.jpg

[Kiyant]

Then what's this if population is not decreasing?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/27/article-0-17322BD2000005DC-474_634x488.jpg

If you really believe that Britain only is 50% white you have a large problem

[portusaus]

So what? What if Native Americans became completely wiped out genetically and everyone of them was mixed? Human peoples, ethnicities, cultures, have gone extinct before or they have merged with other cultures and became something new. Its culture, its ever changing. If you think ANY culture will be the same as it is now in 2100, thats a delusion. But anyways the "White" race will be fine by 2100. The amount of racial admixture for pure White people to become extinct is so major that its just not gonna happen, at least not by 2100.

No, it will not. Foreign immigrants have far more children, and people think it's okay to have sex with them.

You are irrationally optimistic, you are ignoring two major 'things':

1. Without action, yes, there will be too few unadmixed white people spread over a large land area to ensure the existence of white people that aren't mulattoes etc. within less than 100 years

2. The demise of the white race will result in China, Japan, Korea etc. being the sole source of technological advancement, scholarly brilliance, and otherwise high civilization and social improvement. The rest of the world is not intelligent enough to make a difference (and without us engineering their reproduction, never will be), only to contribute to overpopulation and otherwise burden our planet for resources. This will drastically affect the future, as their culture is vastly different from ours.

[Pure ja]

If you really believe that Britain only is 50% white you have a large problem

First London, then Britain, then Great Britain, then Europe, then the world.

Any annual immigration rate above 1/1000 of the native population in any segment of the population is unsustainable to the native culture in the long run.

[Methusalem]

No, it will not. Foreign immigrants have far more children, and people think it's okay to have sex with them.

You are irrationally optimistic, you are ignoring two major 'things':

1. Without action, yes, there will be too few unadmixed white people spread over a large land area to ensure the existence of white people that aren't mulattoes etc. within less than 100 years

2. The demise of the white race will result in China, Japan, Korea etc. being the sole source of technological advancement, scholarly brilliance, and otherwise high civilization and social improvement. The rest of the world is not intelligent enough to make a difference (and without us engineering their reproduction, never will be), only to contribute to overpopulation and otherwise burden our planet for resources. This will drastically affect the future, as their culture is vastly different from ours.

Let me guess you where born and raised up the United States of America?

[portusaus]

Let me guess you where born and raised up the United States of America?

Yes. The United States and everybody that lives here is doomed, unless predominately white states manage to secede within the next 20 years or so.

I would like to add that Jews could potentially carry the torch of post-Euro civilization, but whatever they create would be dystopian in nature. Regardless, I imagine that they will either be expelled from white-land, or die out along with whites by breeding with negroes and Arabs, as their state will not exist by the time Europeans are due to be nearly extinct.

[DebtCollector]

There are already more non-whites than whites being born in the USA so their non-white future has been confirmed.

[Oneeye]

I don't want to imagine a world without white people, it would be too dark.

[Methusalem]

Yes. The United States and everybody that lives here is doomed, unless predominately white states manage to secede within the next 20 years or so.

I would like to add that Jews could potentially carry the torch of post-Euro civilization, but whatever they create would be dystopian in nature. Regardless, I imagine that they will either be expelled from white-land, or die out along with whites by breeding with negroes and Arabs, as their state will not exist by the time Europeans are due to be nearly extinct.

Have you ever asked yourself why only lightskinned multi-ethnic mongrels from the New World like you for example(Ethnicity Portuguese (1/2)/ English (6/16)/ Scottish(1/16)/ Irish(1/16), Ancestry: Lisboa/Northern Portugal; British Isles/Ireland; Sarmatia/pre-Zoroastrian Iran (<1%)) are obsessed with 'whiteness' but noone in Europe actually?
People keen to use 'White' as an identity are mostly very mixed mongrels with heritage of many parts of Europe who have lost most of their original identity and culture and basically all else but their light skin. This color is what makes them have a fake sense of cohesion because they don't have a real ethnicity anymore.
Europeans do not use white because they already have centuries or thousand years old histories and formed ethnicities, traditions. 'White' people don't have this as they're a big mish-mash and do not belong to any ethnicity. White nationalism is then, supportive of ethnic mixing and the loss of thousands years of old cultures.
Someone who is 1/4 irish, 1/4 polish and half German is neither of both. He would not fit very fell in any of these separate nations. So he is left with no identity and his last measure is just to be 'White'. Thus we can conclude 'White Nationalism' is not real nationalism as does not stand for any nation but for a bunch of mongrels with no real nation or ethnicity that just like their light skin and their fluctuative acceptance of more or less alike features.

In other words, a 'white person' is much like a low-scale mulatto screaming 'BLACK POWER!!!'.

[Szegedist]

If it is dying out, it's because its weak and deserves to.

It is basic law of nature.

[Proctor]

This can all be traced back to big gov.

[Mortimer]

i have no fixed or very one sided opinion. neither pro nor anti-white preservation. im preservationist myself and i think romas are more endangered then whites, it is more likely that a small population like romas will die out then a large population like whites who hold so much power, wealth, nukes, arms, money etc.

[Proctor]

i have no fixed or very one sided opinion. neither pro nor anti-white preservation. im preservationist myself and i think romas are more endangered then whites, it is more likely that a small population like romas will die out then a large population like whites who hold so much power, wealth, nukes, arms, money etc.

You are mistaken with this sentence.

[Mortimer]

You are mistaken with this sentence.

no im not

[Proctor]

no im not

Government =/= Whites.

[Mortimer]

Government =/= Whites.

both government and private persons in the west hold lots of money, wealth, power etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

The OP is wrong on so many levels. First of all, he really underestimates how tribal, proud and ethnocentric Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Pakistanis etc are. In other words, few of them really marry out of their races. Secondly, most European countries, as well as Australia and New Zealand, are still 80%+ White. Thirdly, a notable minority of Arabs can look similar to Southern Europeans anyway - some groups of the latter are, in fact, genetically closer to Near Easterners than to Northern Europeans (apparently this doesn't concern him). This is a retarded thread.

[Balmung]

Have you ever asked yourself why only lightskinned multi-ethnic mongrels from the New World like you for example(Ethnicity Portuguese (1/2)/ English (6/16)/ Scottish(1/16)/ Irish(1/16), Ancestry: Lisboa/Northern Portugal; British Isles/Ireland; Sarmatia/pre-Zoroastrian Iran (<1%)) are obsessed with 'whiteness' but noone in Europe actually?
People keen to use 'White' as an identity are mostly very mixed mongrels with heritage of many parts of Europe who have lost most of their original identity and culture and basically all else but their light skin. This color is what makes them have a fake sense of cohesion because they don't have a real ethnicity anymore.
Europeans do not use white because they already have centuries or thousand years old histories and formed ethnicities, traditions. 'White' people don't have this as they're a big mish-mash and do not belong to any ethnicity. White nationalism is then, supportive of ethnic mixing and the loss of thousands years of old cultures.
Someone who is 1/4 irish, 1/4 polish and half German is neither of both. He would not fit very fell in any of these separate nations. So he is left with no identity and his last measure is just to be 'White'. Thus we can conclude 'White Nationalism' is not real nationalism as does not stand for any nation but for a bunch of mongrels with no real nation or ethnicity that just like their light skin and their fluctuative acceptance of more or less alike features.

In other words, a 'white person' is much like a low-scale mulatto screaming 'BLACK POWER!!!'.

I thought you were Anglojew at first but then I read the post.

To be fair though English + Scottish isn't really a mongrel. I don't consider part English/Scottish people to be mixed or anyone who overlaps a lot. They're the same damn thing.

I consider a mongrel something like part Sicilian, German, Russian, Polish, Irish etc :lol:

[Mortimer]

i think white elites sacrifice small to medium degree of racial white purity for world wide domination and luxus and money and power, why would i feel pitty with them or suppor them they can reverse immigration at any time but they want power and money and world supremacy etc. my life and the life of billions is in the hands of a few white people, they dont need my support anyways. im concerned with my life etc. some are butthurt and jealous because some little village white girls prefers black dicks and they cant get a girlfriend

[YeshAtid]

http://i.imgur.com/aiEJH.gif

Jewish men probably mix with other races at the highest rate in the world. Hint- there's a popular trope revolving around Asian women and Jewish men

[portusaus]

Have you ever asked yourself why only lightskinned multi-ethnic mongrels from the New World like you for example(Ethnicity Portuguese (1/2)/ English (6/16)/ Scottish(1/16)/ Irish(1/16), Ancestry: Lisboa/Northern Portugal; British Isles/Ireland; Sarmatia/pre-Zoroastrian Iran (<1%)) are obsessed with 'whiteness' but noone in Europe actually?
People keen to use 'White' as an identity are mostly very mixed mongrels with heritage of many parts of Europe who have lost most of their original identity and culture and basically all else but their light skin. This color is what makes them have a fake sense of cohesion because they don't have a real ethnicity anymore.
Europeans do not use white because they already have centuries or thousand years old histories and formed ethnicities, traditions. 'White' people don't have this as they're a big mish-mash and do not belong to any ethnicity. White nationalism is then, supportive of ethnic mixing and the loss of thousands years of old cultures.
Someone who is 1/4 irish, 1/4 polish and half German is neither of both. He would not fit very fell in any of these separate nations. So he is left with no identity and his last measure is just to be 'White'. Thus we can conclude 'White Nationalism' is not real nationalism as does not stand for any nation but for a bunch of mongrels with no real nation or ethnicity that just like their light skin and their fluctuative acceptance of more or less alike features.

In other words, a 'white person' is much like a low-scale mulatto screaming 'BLACK POWER!!!'.

I am a Euromutt, yes, a byproduct of the USA. I don't support unification of all Euro countries into a single entity, although I do believe we should all cooperate and have a unified military (like NATO, minus the US+Turkey obviously).

I don't believe it is a big deal if different European peoples breed, as while there are no clear boundaries, we are all biologically similar to some extent. On a small scale, this is okay, such as non-admixed whites who can prove their ancestry moving to Europe, or between people living on the borders between nations, but not on a large scale (say, removing borders). It is wholly different if a European and a negro breed; they create a strange sort of lifeform incapable of attaining an identity other than half-breed.

Take me for example; I intend on moving to Portugal. Should I breed with a Portuguese woman, our children will only be 25% foreign, theirs' 12.5%, etc. This really isn't a big deal because of the close genetic distance, after a couple generations the offspring will be akin to a typical homogeneous member of the population. In my eyes I already pass as full Portuguese.

I support nationalism of current nations, not their disintegration into a single "whiteland". Do people really think most white nationalists believe this? it would be cool, but in the long run would not help our identity.

When I call myself a white nationalist, it is because of my view that all European counties should deport all people that are 1/16 non-European or greater ASAP, and disallow their entry into the country ever again. A lower ratio than that would be preferable, but not practical. They should not be allowed the passports nor the rights given to Europeans on their own land. I also believe that the state should engineer reproduction through directly democratically determined laws, for example inciting the healthiest 10% of the population to have many children and the least healthy 10% of the population not to reproduce at all. If that sounds appalling to you, you overestimate how much ill effect it would have on peoples' lives and sorely underestimate the benefits it will deliver. There should be a strong consensus of mutual interests, cooperation, and international unity (not through laws, except perhaps banning non-Euros+misceg, and prohibiting internal wars) between all European nations. "European nations" in this context does not refer to Russia unless they separate their Russian population from other populations.

[Mortimer]

and im sure immigration will be reversed as soon as the current system is not working anymore, like a world wide financial crack on the bank system etc. then there will be another hitler and kill all immigrants etc. also daily masses of non-whites starve to death my last concern is if a some little dumb bitch loves black dick

[Kiyant]

I am a Euromutt, yes, a byproduct of the USA. I don't support unification of all Euro countries into a single entity, although I do believe we should all cooperate and have a unified military (like NATO, minus the US+Turkey obviously).

I don't believe it is a big deal if different European peoples breed, as while there are no clear boundaries, we are all biologically similar to some extent. On a small scale, this is okay, such as non-admixed whites who can prove their ancestry moving to Europe, or between people living on the borders between nations, but not on a large scale (say, removing borders). It is wholly different if a European and a negro breed; they create a strange sort of lifeform incapable of attaining an identity other than half-breed.

Take me for example; I intend on moving to Portugal. Should I breed with a Portuguese woman, our children will only be 25% foreign, theirs' 12.5%, etc. This really isn't a big deal because of the close genetic distance, after a couple generations the offspring will be akin to a typical homogeneous member of the population. In my eyes I already pass as full Portuguese.

I support nationalism of current nations, not their disintegration into a single "whiteland". Do people really think most white nationalists believe this? it would be cool, but in the long run would not help our identity.

When I call myself a white nationalist, it is because of my view that all European counties should deport all people that are 1/16 non-European or greater ASAP, and disallow their entry into the country ever again. A lower ratio than that would be preferable, but not practical. They should not be allowed the passports nor the rights given to Europeans on their own land. I also believe that the state should engineer reproduction through directly democratically determined laws, for example inciting the healthiest 10% of the population to have many children and the least healthy 10% of the population not to reproduce at all. If that sounds appalling to you, you overestimate how much ill effect it would have on peoples' lives and sorely underestimate the benefits it will deliver. There should be a strong consensus of mutual interests, cooperation, and international unity (not through laws, except perhaps banning non-Euros+misceg, and prohibiting internal wars) between all European nations. "European nations" in this context does not refer to Russia unless they separate their Russian population from other populations.
Sounds like a really stupid idea

[portusaus]

and im sure immigration will be reversed as soon as the current system is not working anymore, like a world wide financial crack on the bank system etc. then there will be another hitler


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFle0npi1Qc

[DE-CODER]

SouthAsian, why did you thumb me down for this? It was a joke.

Indians do have a strong ties with Israel.

All they are doing is this;

https://www.facebook.com/WesternHindu

No matters Hindus do support West till they have Power, resources and beauty. They day it goes off they will kick out everyone. They are making ground for themselves. Russia is turning into a Hindu majority country including, US and UK.

[Kiyant]

Indians do have a strong ties with Israel.

All they are doing is this;

https://www.facebook.com/WesternHindu

No matters Hindus do support West till they have Power, resources and beauty. They day it goes off they will kick out everyone. They are making ground for themselves. Russia is turning into a Hindu majority country including, US and UK.

Wtf are you talking about?

[Methusalem]

Sounds like a really stupid idea

Thanks for this short and on point answer. Nuff said.

[Mortimer]

Indians do have a strong ties with Israel.

All they are doing is this;

https://www.facebook.com/WesternHindu

No matters Hindus do support West till they have Power, resources and beauty. They day it goes off they will kick out everyone. They are making ground for themselves. Russia is turning into a Hindu majority country including, US and UK.

you are wrong, india does have ties to israel but southasian is anti-israeli he was thumbing her down for sarcasm because he believes that jews are actually evil

[Proctor]

I am a Euromutt, yes, a byproduct of the USA. I don't support unification of all Euro countries into a single entity, although I do believe we should all cooperate and have a unified military (like NATO, minus the US+Turkey obviously).

I don't believe it is a big deal if different European peoples breed, as while there are no clear boundaries, we are all biologically similar to some extent. On a small scale, this is okay, such as non-admixed whites who can prove their ancestry moving to Europe, or between people living on the borders between nations, but not on a large scale (say, removing borders). It is wholly different if a European and a negro breed; they create a strange sort of lifeform incapable of attaining an identity other than half-breed.

Take me for example; I intend on moving to Portugal. Should I breed with a Portuguese woman, our children will only be 25% foreign, theirs' 12.5%, etc. This really isn't a big deal because of the close genetic distance, after a couple generations the offspring will be akin to a typical homogeneous member of the population. In my eyes I already pass as full Portuguese.

I support nationalism of current nations, not their disintegration into a single "whiteland". Do people really think most white nationalists believe this? it would be cool, but in the long run would not help our identity.

When I call myself a white nationalist, it is because of my view that all European counties should deport all people that are 1/16 non-European or greater ASAP, and disallow their entry into the country ever again. A lower ratio than that would be preferable, but not practical. They should not be allowed the passports nor the rights given to Europeans on their own land. I also believe that the state should engineer reproduction through directly democratically determined laws, for example inciting the healthiest 10% of the population to have many children and the least healthy 10% of the population not to reproduce at all. If that sounds appalling to you, you overestimate how much ill effect it would have on peoples' lives and sorely underestimate the benefits it will deliver. There should be a strong consensus of mutual interests, cooperation, and international unity (not through laws, except perhaps banning non-Euros+misceg, and prohibiting internal wars) between all European nations. "European nations" in this context does not refer to Russia unless they separate their Russian population from other populations.

Howcome 1/16? I've always wondered as to why this is the cut off.

[Cleitus]

Just look at Race Mixers they are all part of the dumb Mass.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ironically, it is the EU's attempt to dissolve the borders of different European countries into one amass that really threatens the cultures, languages and identities of Europe's peoples. Any other issue, including this, is a red herring.

[DE-CODER]

Just look at Race Mixers they are all part of the dumb Mass.

White skin people of non-european descent in Asia or Africa continent don't mix at all.

[Cleitus]

White skin people of non-european descent in Asia or Africa continent don't mix at all.

True, just by the way they are much more Asian People than European ones.

[portusaus]

Howcome 1/16? I've always wondered as to why this is the cut off.

1/16 is my suggestion, this is the situation when 15/16 of an individual's grandparents are all European of descent.

I speculate that allowing those 1/8 admixed or greater would not effectively isolate the European stock from the rest of the Earth's genetic influence, i.e. too much mix, depending on who they're mixed with. It could be seen as "racist" if we specifically disallow a certain ratio of Sub-Saharan stock for example, so we must make a low blanket ratio.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

Yes.
Nonetheless I think they always be some European patriots that won't race-mix and keep having children
But I do fear about the decrease in population among Europeans especially in Western Europe.

[DE-CODER]

True, just by the way they are much more Asian People than European ones.

Europeans would stop mixing too when they will find out that we are only 20% now.

[Cleitus]

Europeans would stop mixing too when they will find out that we are only 20% now.

You think they would ? I dont think so

[Cleitus]

This Problem cant be solved with words.

[Tooting Carmen]

For those who talk about a homogeneous, monolithic "White race": do you really think that Greeks and South Italians look more similar to Swedes and Finns than to Turks and Lebanese? Genetics, as well as basic common sense, prove otherwise.

[Cleitus]

For those who talk about a homogeneous, monolithic "White race": do you really think that Greeks and South Italians look more similar to Swedes and Finns than to Turks and Lebanese? Genetics, as well as basic common sense, prove otherwise.

Its not about that, its about the souvereinity and the Existence of a People.

[Tooting Carmen]

Its not about that, its about the souvereinity and the Existence of a People.

That is the whole point, though: only pan-Europeanist ideologues, brainwashed by the EU and its propaganda, believe that Europeans are a single 'people'.

[Unome]

Ok, seems like everyone is keen to be in a relationship with White-skin person.
South Asians (specially Indians are possessed with blondes), Arabs and Africans all want to be with white people. Even Asians, Indians and black people have stopped dating/marriage to their own races, if not all but majority. Hinduism is on high rise in Western countries.

And after reviewing all that I don't think that White race would even survive after 2100.:confused:
The white races are not reproducing as quick as other races, due to K-selection (slow breeding). White people need more r-selection (rapid breeding) and to have more children.

If whites continue at the current rate then yes, white people will go extinct someday in the future, maybe two or three centuries.

[Szegedist]

1/16 is my suggestion, this is the situation when 15/16 of an individual's grandparents are all European of descent.

I speculate that allowing those 1/8 admixed or greater would not effectively isolate the European stock from the rest of the Earth's genetic influence, i.e. too much mix, depending on who they're mixed with. It could be seen as "racist" if we specifically disallow a certain ratio of Sub-Saharan stock for example, so we must make a low blanket ratio.

Ironic coming from an American Mongrel of mostly Portugese stock.

[Unome]

European countries should implement a policy to give tax-breaks and tax-incentives to aboriginal Europeans who have 12 children or more.

[Szegedist]

European countries should implement a policy to give tax-breaks and tax-incentives to aboriginal Europeans who have 12 children or more.

How many children do you have?

[Unome]

How many children do you have?
Zero, for now, I haven't looked for a wife yet. I just turned 30 a year ago. But most women in my area are anti-traditional feminists and liberals. They aren't interested in a guy with my values and ideas.

How many children do you have??

[armenianbodyhair]

The more important issue is cultural preservation. White doesn't mean anything, and population genetics will always be constantly changing. Look what is happening to the Amish people from all the isolation and inbreeding, do you really want that fate to befall your people?

[Styrian Mujo]

Does it matter? As long as the human race survives by 2100, Im good.
Without the tolerant White-Germanic people you will all be slaves of the Japanese and Chinese with only a fist of rice to eat all day.

[YeshAtid]

It's funny how many are quick to blame Jews, even though they're also white:picard2:

[Styrian Mujo]

It's funny how many are quick to blame Jews, even though they're also white:picard2:
Since when is the Jew white?

[armenianbodyhair]

Are you in relationship with a nagger or what?

No I find that staying single is the best way to avoid nagging of any kind.

[YeshAtid]

Since when is the Jew white?

Azkhenazis are white. Period. Have you ever seen one?

[Szegedist]

all the isolation and inbreeding,

Cause threads like this to be made.

[armenianbodyhair]

It's funny how many are quick to blame Jews, even though they're also white:picard2:

No one is white, and no one is black. No one is yellow either unless they have a medical condition.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ashkenazim are certainly no darker than many Southern Europeans.

[YeshAtid]

No one is white, and no one is black. No one is yellow either unless they have a medical condition.

That premise is only true for non-Armenoid untermensch. Armenoids, being G-Ds among men, are as pale as talcum powder.

[Unome]

In my area, white women tend to create broken families (non-traditional, liberal values) with non-whites. This is "normal" and average here. Whereas being conservative and traditional is abnormal and even "wrong". This is the environment I was raised in.

The conservative, traditional types in my area are Hispanics. I admire them because they actually have pride in themselves and their culture. It's "PC" and allowed for them.

[YeshAtid]

Ashkenazim are certainly no darker than many Southern Europeans.

Ashkhenazim are not a single ethnicity though. The derive from different stock.
This is the typical look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtKsaB5xgxI

[Tooting Carmen]

Ashkhenazim are not a single ethnicity though. The derive from different stock.
This is the typical look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtKsaB5xgxI

And much less are Europeans. There is no single 'European look', which is exactly what I've been saying all along and one of the reasons why this is a stupid thread.

[Szegedist]

In my area, white women tend to create broken families (non-traditional, liberal values) with non-whites. This is "normal" and average here. Whereas being conservative and traditional is abnormal and even "wrong". This is the environment I was raised in.

The conservative, traditional types in my area are Hispanics. I admire them because they actually have pride in themselves and their culture. It's "PC" and allowed for them.

The solution is very simple for you, turn gay and marry a another guy with views like yours, then you can adopt and raise a traditional white family.

[YeshAtid]

And much less are Europeans. There is no single 'European look', which is exactly what I've been saying all along and one of the reasons why this is a stupid thread.
All AJs are European. This is a stupid thread, I agree.

[Tooting Carmen]

All AJs are European. This is a stupid thread, I agree.

'Europeans' are not an ethnicity. Swedes, Finns, Germans, Dutch, French, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks are all ethnicities. Like I said before, only brainwashed ideologues think that Europeans are all the same.

[YeshAtid]

'Europeans' are not an ethnicity. Swedes, Finns, Germans, Dutch, French, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks are all ethnicities. Like I said before, only brainwashed ideologues think that Europeans are all the same.

I never said it was. The term is a demonym, referring to a broad range of cultures. Nonetheless, AJs are still European.

[Unome]

The solution is very simple for you, turn gay and marry a another guy with views like yours, then you can adopt and raise a traditional white family.
No thanks, keep your homosexual fantasies to yourself, faggot.

[Insuperable]

It would be in interest of non-white people living in major European countries and other created by Celto-Germanics (USA, Australia...) to make sure white people there are vast majority, otherwise this countries would become shitholes from which they escaped in the first place.xD

[Unome]

'Europeans' are not an ethnicity. Swedes, Finns, Germans, Dutch, French, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks are all ethnicities. Like I said before, only brainwashed ideologues think that Europeans are all the same.
Europeans are the same.

You sound anti-European.

[Tooting Carmen]

I never said it was. The term is a demonym, referring to a broad range of cultures. Nonetheless, AJs are still European.

Swedes and Greeks are about as similar as Lebanese and Omanis. (Yes, talking about 'Middle Easterners' as if they were a single race or culture is equally retarded).

[Tooting Carmen]

Europeans are the same.

Only to a philistine. Africans and Asians are diverse, and so are Europeans.

[RussiaPrussia]

Does it matter? As long as the human race survives by 2100, Im good.

it does matter because only whites and east asians got brains

[Unome]

Aboriginal Greeks have more in-common with Norwegians than Greeks with Saudia Arabians.

[armenianbodyhair]

Europeans are the same.

You sound anti-European.

Can I pass in Sweden?

[Mehmet]

Yes. The lights of Northern Europe are increasingly turning a small minority.
The greatest reason isn't come from Blacks/Hindus/Chinese though.
The swarthy Southern Europeans are mass breeding with light Northerners.
Blue eyes, pale white skin, blonde hair are getting more scarce, as a logical result.

Jews play an important role in all this context, to be fair and (no pun/teasing intended).

[Unome]

Can I pass in Sweden?
:thumbs

[Rattata]

Yes, because white wimmin love us swarthies the more swarthy you are the more easier it is to get one

[Tooting Carmen]

Europeans are the same.

You sound anti-European.

If you think that the two groups below look identical, then you need your vision checked.
http://www.footballsfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Danish-National-Football-Team-Squad-Euro-2012.jpg
http://www.sportinmalta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/DSC_0082-Large.jpg

[Szegedist]

Europeans are the same.


AHahahahahha

[Szegedist]

No thanks, keep your homosexual fantasies to yourself, faggot.

Your ideology is closer to homosexuality than mine. You basically support one big gay orgy, on a continental level.

[Tooting Carmen]

Aboriginal Greeks have more in-common with Norwegians than Greeks with Saudia Arabians.

Yes, but when it comes to Greeks and Turks or Lebanese, then that is a wholly different matter altogether.

[Unome]

Your ideology is closer to homosexuality than mine. You basically support one big gay orgy, on a continental level.
I specifically said that aboriginal Europeans should make families and have 12 children each, how is this "homosexual"?

It's heterosexual. Do you know how sex works? Probably not.

[Lemon Kush]

No thanks, keep your homosexual fantasies to yourself, faggot.

He dyes his hair to look whiter. What more can can you expect :shrug:

[Tooting Carmen]

I specifically said that aboriginal Europeans should make families and have 12 children each, how is this "homosexual"?

It's heterosexual. Do you know how sex works? Probably not.

What I think he means is that you have a very hippyish, lovey-dovey, pan-European outlook, despite all the differences between European groups in language, culture and phenotype.

[Szegedist]

He dyes his hair to look whiter. What more can can you expect :shrug:

Hey faggot (who doesn't know how lightning works), are you following me again so I shit on you even more than I did before?

You are the definition of an untermensch, the lowest of the low, a cowardly, lying brown mongrel midget subhuman.

I would rather have an African neighbour than a "european" subhuman like you.

[Szegedist]

I specifically said that aboriginal Europeans should make families and have 12 children each, how is this "homosexual"?


You support a pan-European circle jerking orgy. Sounds very gay to me.

[Lemon Kush]

Hey faggot (who doesn't know how lightning works), are you following me again so I shit on you even more than I did before?

You are the definition of an untermensch, the lowest of the low, a cowardly, lying brown mongrel midget subhuman.

You do dye your hair though

[Prisoner Of Ice]

First London, then Britain, then Great Britain, then Europe, then the world.

Any annual immigration rate above 1/1000 of the native population in any segment of the population is unsustainable to the native culture in the long run.

That basically sums it up. And it's not even demographic change that's the big worry but poverty. Life is so much more shit in the USA than when I was born. 100% of the population increase has been due to immigration. 100 fucking percent. It's doubled population and then some in that time and it's gone from an easy palce to live to somewhere it's almost impossible to own a decent home if you are born just now.

[Szegedist]

You do dye your hair though

I guess in your shithole cave they dont have a thing called lights. My hair looks blonde in a well lit room, and red in a dark room. You are too retarded to understand this.

[Lemon Kush]

I guess in your shithole cave they dont have a thing called lights. My hair looks blonde in a well lit room, and red in a dark room. You are too retarded to understand this.

From red to blonde, interesting :rolleyes:

[Szegedist]

This is the problem with pan-White "nationalism". Because for example, a gypsy from Hungary who is culturally Hungarian, is above a "european" subhuman like gp93 or a "european" like Unome.

[Unome]

You support a pan-European circle jerking orgy. Sounds very gay to me.
Nature is pretty clear about the fact:

Make babies or go extinct.

If aboriginal Europeans continue at present reproduction rates, then yes, we eventually will go extinct.

[Tooting Carmen]

Pan-White nationalism is a joke and utterly directionless, I agree.

[Szegedist]

Nature is pretty clear about the fact:

Make babies or go extinct.

If aboriginal Europeans continue at present reproduction rates, then yes, we eventually will go extinct.

Who is "we"? Whites? Yes, some "whites" will go extinct, other "whites" will survive.

[Szegedist]

From red to blonde, interesting :rolleyes:

My hair is not blonde and was never blonde you moron.

[Lemon Kush]

Who is "we"? Whites? Yes, some "whites" will go extinct, other "whites" will survive.

Not you, who's too scared to post his pic.

[Szegedist]

Not you, who's too scared to post his pic.

I posted my pic at least 5 times, and kept it up for a few hours. Your posted one picture a long time ago, took it down after 5 minutes.

BTW, I called you out before, and told you to post our pictures to a neutral mod (Hevo), who will make a thread "Who is whiter, gp93 or Szegedist", you then ignored it and ran off. Hevo is a witness and he acknowledged before that this happened.

[Lemon Kush]

I posted my pic at least 5 times, and kept it up for a few hours. Your posted one picture a long time ago, took it down after 5 minutes.

BTW, I called you out before, and told you to post our pictures to a neutral mod (Hevo), who will make a thread "Who is whiter, gp93 or Szegedist", you then ignored it an ran off. Hevo is a witness and he acknowledged it.

You won't post again. You scared.

[Szegedist]

You won't post again. You scared.

I posted my pic at least 5 times, and kept it up for a few hours. Your posted one picture a long time ago, took it down after 5 minutes.

BTW, I called you out before, and told you to post our pictures to a neutral mod (Hevo), who will make a thread "Who is whiter, gp93 or Szegedist", you then ignored it an ran off. Hevo is a witness and he acknowledged it.


I posted my pic before, on the "gp93 vs Szegedist thread", you saw it, ran away, and did not post your picture.

You are a cowardly liar.

Today you even claimed to have posted your picture, but it turned out to be another lie of yours.

[Lemon Kush]

I posted my pic at least 5 times, and kept it up for a few hours. Your posted one picture a long time ago, took it down after 5 minutes.

BTW, I called you out before, and told you to post our pictures to a neutral mod (Hevo), who will make a thread "Who is whiter, gp93 or Szegedist", you then ignored it an ran off. Hevo is a witness and he acknowledged it.


I posted my pic before, on the "gp93 vs Szegedist thread", you saw it, ran away, and did not post your picture.

You are a cowardly liar.

Today you even claimed to have posted your picture, but it turned out to be another lie of yours.

I said if you post yours I'll post mine but you ran away like a castrated wimp!

[Szegedist]

I said if you post yours I'll post mine but you ran away like a castrated wimp!

I posted mine, several times, each time I did, you pretended to not see it or avoided those threads.

What is really funny, is later in chatbox you commented on my photos, but 5 minutes later you again claimed that you didnt see them. Can you sink lower, you piece of shit?

[Lemon Kush]

I posted mine, several times, each time I did, you pretended to not see it or avoided those threads.

What is really funny, is later in chatbox you commented on my photos, but 5 minutes later you again claimed that you didnt see them. Can you sink lower, you piece of shit?

Hey! Little Hungarian alpignid control your temper!

[Szegedist]

Hey! Little Hungarian alpignid control your temper!

1) I am taller than you by at least 18 cm, that is that is 7 inches for Americans such as yourself. So who are you calling little?
2) Nobody classified me as Alpinid, while some people classified you as part Alpinid.
3) As for controlling tempers, we all saw your little outburst in chatbox today, while I kept my calm.

Check mate, subhuman.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Hey! Little Hungarian alpignid control your temper!

Alpinids do seem to get very upset all the time. Maybe frank grimes is alpignid after all.

[Lemon Kush]

1) I am taller than you by at least 18 cm, that is that is 7 inches for Americans such as yourself. So who are you calling little?
2) Nobody classified me as Alpinid, while some people classified you as part Alpinid.
3) As for controlling tempers, we all saw your little outburst in chatbox today, while I kept my calm.

Check mate, subhuman.

Last I checked you're a midget HunGAYrian alpginid scared to post his pic :shrug:

[Szegedist]

Last I checked you're a midget HunGAYrian alpginid scared to post his pic :shrug:

So I am an Alpinid midget that was not classified as Alpinid by anyone, and is above average height, while you were classified as Alpinid, and you are below average height? That makes you a what?

[Lemon Kush]

Alpinids do seem to get very upset all the time. Maybe frank grimes is alpignid after all.

Yeah Szegedist just has trouble accepting his alpignidness

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/208/6/0/Spider_Pig_Drawing_by_MarioSimpson1.jpg

[Balmung]

Azkhenazis are white. Period. Have you ever seen one?

When a term can be applied to any and everyone even regardless of their DNA it has no real meaning. We'd all be better off just identifying with our own respective groups (nations or ethnicities) because where would white end if its based solely on skintone? some mixed person who just so happens to look more white like Rashida Jones can identify as white? Many chinese are as light as Southern Euros....they white too?

[Tooting Carmen]

When a term can be applied to any and everyone even regardless of their DNA it has no real meaning. We'd all be better off just identifying with our own respective groups (nations or ethnicities) because where would white end if its based solely on skintone? some mixed person who just so happens to look more white like Rashida Jones can identify as white? Many chinese are as light as Southern Euros....they white too?

Exactly so.

[portusaus]

It's funny how many are quick to blame Jews, even though they're also white:picard2:

Jews are not, never have been, and never will be "white".

Simple diagram:
42795

[Szegedist]

Jews are not, never have been, and never will be "white".

Simple diagram:
42795

Wrong. There are many Jews who contributed more to Europe than many European countries, and look whiter than many Europeans.

[Insuperable]

Jews are not, never have been, and never will be "white".

Simple diagram:
42795

Here is a better map
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?92343-White-Europeans-and-non-white-Europeans

Blue=White and proper Europe
Non-Blue=Non White, barely Europe

[portusaus]

Here is a better map
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?92343-White-Europeans-and-non-white-Europeans

Blue=White and proper Europe
Non-Blue=Non White, barely Europe

That map is garbage. There is no difference between the 'whiteness value' of Southern French and Northern Italians. Ukraine white (and the Caucasus..?), but not Croatia? Nonsense.

[Styrian Mujo]

Ashkenazim are certainly no darker than many Southern Europeans.
neither southern euros nor the Jews are white.

[Tooting Carmen]

neither southern euros nor the Jews are white.

Much as I disagree with you, at least that is a more consistent approach than those who argue that the former are but the latter aren't.

[Styrian Mujo]

That map is garbage. There is no difference between the 'whiteness value' of Southern French and Northern Italians. Ukraine white (and the Caucasus..?), but not Croatia? Nonsense.
you must draw the line somewhere even if southern Fernch are not lighter than the average Croat:)

[Hevo]

Here is a better map
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?92343-White-Europeans-and-non-white-Europeans

Blue=White and proper Europe
Non-Blue=Non White, barely Europe

Quite accurate map.:laugh:

[Insuperable]

That map is garbage. There is no difference between the 'whiteness value' of Southern French and Northern Italians. Ukraine white (and the Caucasus..?), but not Croatia? Nonsense.

Okay, if you won't you can put North Italy in the Blue Team, but they still based on gen. results show too much "Near" Eastern influence like East Med, West Asian...I know that many of them say how there are a lot of southern Italians in North Italy so it is questionable who got tested, but the irony is that Lombard's results he posted were similar to those they (and even he did the same if I am not mistaken) criticized.

Caucasus is inthe Blue team simply because of Russia and ethnic Russians.

Ukrainians are obviously white since gen. they are northern population. I don't know why so many have fucked up view about Ukrainians.

Croats are obviously not white (especially those from B&H). As Dexter Morgan nicely puts it "Croats are a transitional race between Arabs and Europeans".:pound:

[Insuperable]

you must draw the line somewhere even if southern Fernch are not lighter than the average Croat:)

I am basing my judgement on genetics primarily. Southern French are maybe more a little bit more "Med", but they are more European genetically (less East Med, West Asian...) and I don't know why people think Croats are lighter in the first place.

[Rastko]

Time to put my turban back:

http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/AR1FTG.jpg

[Styrian Mujo]

I have written this many times before, the term "white" is a synonym for fair Celto-Germanic people of north-western Europe living within the Anglo-sphere and can include other fair Europeans such as the Finns,Balts,French and northern Slavs wich have assimilated and are accepted as "White" in the the Anglo-sphere.

[Styrian Mujo]

I am basing my judgement on genetics primarily. Southern French are maybe more a little bit more "Med", but they are more European genetically (less East Med, West Asian...) and I don't know why people think Croats are lighter in the first place.
Croats are on about the same level of pigmentation as southern French.

[Insuperable]

Croats are on about the same level of pigmentation as southern French.

No, Croats are darker since they are dark people overall. People just have wrong impression.

[Styrian Mujo]

No, Croats are darker since they are dark people overall. People just have wrong impression.
Croats are not that dark unless you are going by Scando standards,many Croats can pass as ethnic French.

[Insuperable]

Croats are not that dark unless you are going by Scando standards,many Croats can pass as ethnic French.

I just don't think so, sorry.

[Tooting Carmen]

Many Croats can pass as ethnic French.

The pigmentation may be similar, but the facial traits are not.

[Insuperable]

The pigmentation may be similar, but the facial traits are not.

Indeed. Croats are pred. like Arabs with light pigmentation because Dinarids are a transitional race between Arabs and Europeans.

[Styrian Mujo]

The pigmentation may be similar, but the facial traits are not.
I agree, French look western.

[Styrian Mujo]

Indeed. Croats are pred. like Arabs with light pigmentation because Dinarids are a transitional race between Arabs and Europeans.
Geneticaly Croats are a mix of West Asians and Northern Europeans.

[Insuperable]

Geneticaly Croats are a mix of southern Europeans (West Asians) and Northern Europeans.

Fixed

[Äijä]

Have you ever asked yourself why only lightskinned multi-ethnic mongrels from the New World like you for example(Ethnicity Portuguese (1/2)/ English (6/16)/ Scottish(1/16)/ Irish(1/16), Ancestry: Lisboa/Northern Portugal; British Isles/Ireland; Sarmatia/pre-Zoroastrian Iran (<1%)) are obsessed with 'whiteness' but noone in Europe actually?
People keen to use 'White' as an identity are mostly very mixed mongrels with heritage of many parts of Europe who have lost most of their original identity and culture and basically all else but their light skin. This color is what makes them have a fake sense of cohesion because they don't have a real ethnicity anymore.
Europeans do not use white because they already have centuries or thousand years old histories and formed ethnicities, traditions. 'White' people don't have this as they're a big mish-mash and do not belong to any ethnicity. White nationalism is then, supportive of ethnic mixing and the loss of thousands years of old cultures.
Someone who is 1/4 irish, 1/4 polish and half German is neither of both. He would not fit very fell in any of these separate nations. So he is left with no identity and his last measure is just to be 'White'. Thus we can conclude 'White Nationalism' is not real nationalism as does not stand for any nation but for a bunch of mongrels with no real nation or ethnicity that just like their light skin and their fluctuative acceptance of more or less alike features.

In other words, a 'white person' is much like a low-scale mulatto screaming 'BLACK POWER!!!'.

Well put, their identity is American, they have to back migrate and lean a new identity to actually be something in European eyes.

EDIT.

Southerners have an identity and many know about relations in Europe.
Had couple of Carolinians working in Finland on a project, great guys,

[Pure ja]

Ironically, it is the EU's attempt to dissolve the borders of different European countries into one amass that really threatens the cultures, languages and identities of Europe's peoples. Any other issue, including this, is a red herring.

Not quite.

EU got 1.7 million immigrants from out of EU during 2011.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Migration_and_migrant_population_statistics

Most of the immigrants were from non-EU countries.
And only Lithuania, Portugal, Slovakia and Croatia managed to keep non-nationals immigration rate below 1/1000 of local natives (and even that probably not in all segments).

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/images/4/47/Immigration%2C_2009–11_YB14.png

[Pure ja]

European countries should implement a policy to give tax-breaks and tax-incentives to aboriginal Europeans who have 12 children or more.

No.
EU should restrict immigration.
EU ecological footprint is already many times over the natural carrying capacity. EU first has to lower consumption at least 5-fold before it can afford to breed more. If we do not constrain ourselves to ecological carrying capacity, our population dynamics will go through a collapse.

[Pure ja]

The more important issue is cultural preservation. White doesn't mean anything, and population genetics will always be constantly changing. Look what is happening to the Amish people from all the isolation and inbreeding, do you really want that fate to befall your people?

Finns have been quite isolated but they have been doing just fine so far, with their PISA tests and with their economy and culture.

[armenianbodyhair]

Finns have been quite isolated but they have been doing just fine so far, with their PISA tests and with their economy and culture.

They are genetically diverse still though. Economy and culture don't have to do much with this anyway, and I am completely in favor of cultural preservation.

[Unome]

Well put, their identity is American, they have to back migrate and lean a new identity to actually be something in European eyes.

EDIT.

Southerners have an identity and many know about relations in Europe.
Had couple of Carolinians working in Finland on a project, great guys,
Europeans have lost your cultural supremacy in XXth Century. Now Amerika is the world leading culture, dominating Europa.

Because you Europeans have forgotten, or lost, what it means to become European. You currently are failing. The spread of Islam throughout European countries is just one small sign of things to come. As long as Europeans remain divided and clueless, introverted, then European culture will continue to deteriorate. Aboriginal, native Europeans, need Euro-descendants like myself, from the New World, to remind you of where you came from, and what it means to become European.

European peoples should put 'European' first, above simplistic, childish ethnicities, like "Finn" or "English" or "Italian" or "Greek".

Europeans should unite, as it was in the Enlightenment and other times of great European prosperity.

[Tooting Carmen]

Europeans have lost your cultural supremacy in XXth Century. Now Amerika is the world leading culture, dominating Europa.

Because you Europeans have forgotten, or lost, what it means to become European. You currently are failing. The spread of Islam throughout European countries is just one small sign of things to come. As long as Europeans remain divided and clueless, introverted, then European culture will continue to deteriorate. Aboriginal, native Europeans, need Euro-descendants like myself, from the New World, to remind you of where you came from, and what it means to become European.

European peoples should put 'European' first, above simplistic, childish ethnicities, like "Finn" or "English" or "Italian" or "Greek".

Europeans should unite, as it was in the Enlightenment and other times of great European prosperity.

That all gets it the wrong way round. It is Europe's diversity of cultures, languages and phenotypes for such a small landmass that makes it great, and it is totalitarian attempts to obliterate all that, led principally by the EU, that are destroying it.

[Unome]

EU is a politickal designation.

What Europeans really need is a cultural resurgence. XXth Century with both World Wars has left an ugly black stain and red scar across Europa. So this needs healed, today.

Europeans seem to devalue what it means to be 'European'. The low birthrates in many European countries signal the truth. If aboriginal Euros continue to have 1.5 children per family then the results are obvious. A population cannot sustain itself on 1.5 children per family.

Europeans are too introverted, and ethnocentric, to see the big picture.

[Tooting Carmen]

EU is a politickal designation.

What Europeans really need is a cultural resurgence. XXth Century with both World Wars has left an ugly black stain and red scar across Europa. So this needs healed, today.

Europeans seem to devalue what it means to be 'European'. The low birthrates in many European countries signal the truth. If aboriginal Euros continue to have 1.5 children per family then the results are obvious. A population cannot sustain itself on 1.5 children per family.

Europeans are too introverted, and ethnocentric, to see the big picture.

Right, so on that basis, you think that Japan and Indonesia should give up their borders and become a state called 'Asia'? Or how about Ethiopia and Senegal unite to become a state called 'Africa'? Because that is akin to your logic - the Northern and Southern extremes of Europe have no more in common with each other than those aforementioned countries do with each other.

[Celxon]

Does it matter? As long as the human race survives by 2100, Im good.

I take it that you feel the same way about Puerto Ricans too. If not, why not?

[Unome]

Right, so on that basis, you think that Japan and Indonesia should give up their borders and become a state called 'Asia'? Or how about Ethiopia and Senegal unite to become a state called 'Africa'? Because that is akin to your logic - the Northern and Southern extremes of Europe have no more in common with each other than those aforementioned countries do with each other.
Orientals don't have birthrate problems; there are >1bil Chinese!

East Indians don't have birthrate problems.

Middle Eastern Arabs and Semites don't have birthrate problems.

Afrikans don't have birthrate problems.


Europeans do, because Europeans tend toward K-mate selection (less children = more resources per child).

Other nationalities around the world already have very high birthrates. Europeans need encouragement to stay alive, and not go extinct (have more than 2 children per family).

[Tooting Carmen]

Orientals don't have birthrate problems; there are >1bil Chinese!

East Indians don't have birthrate problems.

Middle Eastern Arabs and Semites don't have birthrate problems.

Afrikans don't have birthrate problems.


Europeans do, because Europeans tend toward K-mate selection (less children = more resources per child).

Other nationalities around the world already have very high birthrates. Europeans need encouragement to stay alive, and not go extinct (have more than 2 children per family).

You're not answering my question. You advocate pan-Europeanism, when I'm arguing it is just as illogical and utopian as pan-Orientalism, pan-Africanism etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

I'll repeat what I said in some other threads:

"The trouble is that white supremacists, philistines, pan-Europeanists, MENA-haters and other assorted groups hold a very absolutist, rigid idea of 'Europeans' and 'Middle Easterners', and won't accept that certain groups of Southern Europeans look closer to some Middle Easterners than to Northern Europeans, despite what both genetics and basic common sense may suggest."

[Unome]

You're not answering my question. You advocate pan-Europeanism, when I'm arguing it is just as illogical and utopian as pan-Orientalism, pan-Africanism etc.
It's logical considering that the European birthrate is low, and the whole rest of the world is high.

If Orientals had 500 million East Asians remaining after a plague or something, then yes, why not support "pan-orientalism" in order to increase the birthrate?

The birthrate is the point. Europeans have low birthrates. It's science.

[GrebluBro]

You're not answering my question. You advocate pan-Europeanism, when I'm arguing it is just as illogical and utopian as pan-Orientalism, pan-Africanism etc.

You sound like you are against Unity among Europeans :picard2:

Indians are like Europeans.
Why the fuck Tamil care for Punjabi's loss (in some aspect) while both Tamil and Punjabi are as much as different as Irish and Greeks?
All Indians care for other Indians despite not looking same and not speaking same language/culture.
If guys like Unome care for all Europeans (as a single race) like Indians care within themselves (despite not homogeneous), it is good for all Euros.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's logical considering that the European birthrate is low, and the whole rest of the world is high.

If Orientals had 500 million East Asians remaining after a plague or something, then yes, why not support "pan-orientalism" in order to increase the birthrate?

The birthrate is the point. Europeans have low birthrates. It's science.

Actually, the lowest birthrates in the world are in Japan and South Korea, yet they won't give up their borders like European countries have.:picard1: And let us not forget the ever-more devastating effects of China's one-child policy.

Also, my point earlier is that, if you believe that every single native Southern European is White, then so are many Georgians, Armenians, Turks, Lebanese, Syrians etc. - all groups which, rest assured, you dislike.

[Tooting Carmen]

You sound like you are against Unity among Europeans :picard2:

Indians are like Europeans.
Why the fuck Tamil care for Punjabi's loss (in some aspect) while both Tamil and Punjabi are as much as different as Irish and Greeks?
All Indians care for other Indians despite not looking same and not speaking same language/culture.
If guys like Unome are like Indians, it is good for them

European unity, the dissolution of European countries' borders, is the totalitarian, anti-democratic ideal of the EU. Anyway, who said India is a model to follow? Its wide variety of languages and cultures precisely makes it so dysfunctional in many ways. It would be better perhaps to break it up.

[GrebluBro]

European unity, the dissolution of European countries' borders, is the totalitarian, anti-democratic ideal of the EU. Anyway, who said India is a model to follow? Its wide variety of languages and cultures precisely makes it so dysfunctional in many ways. It would be better perhaps to break it up.

But economically it is better with them united.
Indians do face dysfunctional problem everyday, but it is dramatically decreasing every year.

I would advocate for only 10-25 countries in the world.
World should have as much lesser countries as possible.

All European countries should form United states of Europe :thumb001:
Like India

[Fire Haired]

Ok, seems like everyone is keen to be in a relationship with White-skin person.
South Asians (specially Indians are possessed with blondes), Arabs and Africans all want to be with white people. Even Asians, Indians and black people have stopped dating/marriage to their own races, if not all but majority. Hinduism is on high rise in Western countries.

And after reviewing all that I don't think that White race would even survive after 2100.:confused:

This makes no sense, you are exaggerating racial mixing, westernization, and conversion to Hinduism. If non white people want to be with white people and mix with white people that does not mean the white race is going to extinction. Unless the vast majority of white people are mixing with non whites(which is not even close to true). White race is a general term that describes many different people who live in Europe(which is a peninsula of Asia like south Asia) and all share some common ancestry and some of that common ancestry is why very pale skin dominates most Europeans. By culture Europeans are very connected and it is called western culture. In the United States over 60% of the people have ~100% European ancestry and of course then you have all of Europe and descendants in former or modern European colonies. How in the world will all those people some how not have any living descendants with ~100% European blood in 2100, unless there is genocide.

I don't dis agree that inside the western world there has been rebellion against western tradition and an unconscious anti western spirit. The western world and western tradition is seen as old school and can only go down it can't improve that is the mind set I think many people have. I think partly because of that mind set westerness is falling. A few days ago I looked up demographic statistics from Europe and learned some things about their pop culture. I thought America was messed up, we are nothing compared to almost all European nations. The unconscious hate against westerness, the lose of morals in the western world, and the slow destruction in the western world is all a result of extreme liberalism that was born really in the 1960's. I think this thread was partly influenced by what I just described. You assume that white people(a representation for some of westerness) can only go down.

I think Americans and all westerns need to take away all of those racial and cultural stero types and other types of thinking that were created by those extreme liberal movements in the 1960's, and move on. So what if you don't want to be Christian that's fine but at least care about basic human morals, stop overreacting to racial stuff and actually treat and think about everyone not based on their race, stop overreacting to gender stuff, weird=better, etc. Some people think that in my opinion the American mindset needs to be back to what it was in 1900, that is not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that extreme liberalism has hurt our society look at our pop culture and compare it to what we had in 1950, and it has hurt our society in many other ways.

[Gaston]

Why is this boring thread in the genetic section? :confused:

[Pure ja]

It's logical considering that the European birthrate is low, and the whole rest of the world is high.

If Orientals had 500 million East Asians remaining after a plague or something, then yes, why not support "pan-orientalism" in order to increase the birthrate?

The birthrate is the point. Europeans have low birthrates. It's science.

No.
The science is that human lifespan has grown 20% relative to the prior human lifespan - in one human lifespan.
In that regard, one can sustain population even with the birth rate of 1,6. At least temporarily.

[Pure ja]

But economically it is better with them united.
Indians do face dysfunctional problem everyday, but it is dramatically decreasing every year.

I would advocate for only 10-25 countries in the world.
World should have as much lesser countries as possible.

All European countries should form United states of Europe :thumb001:
Like India

Small is beautiful.
Too large to fail means too large to be allowed to exist in the first place.

[DE-CODER]

Put a law just like Saudi Arabia did, no women is allowed to get married outside GCC countries nationals.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Persian_Gulf_Arab_States_english.PNG/499px-Persian_Gulf_Arab_States_english.PNG

[Äijä]

But economically it is better with them united.
Indians do face dysfunctional problem everyday, but it is dramatically decreasing every year.

I would advocate for only 10-25 countries in the world.
World should have as much lesser countries as possible.

All European countries should form United states of Europe :thumb001:
Like India

Caesar, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin etc.. Europeans always unite only to take them down eventually.

Im not forgetting US contribution but most of these collapsed from inside also, they cant function in Europe.

Economics is not all about size, it is about running a balanced budget, something that the representative goverments cant produce.

Switzerland is the only sane country in Europe, they have real democracy.

[Balmung]

Adding to my other post about White being meaningless I think people should stop putting so much emphasis on outdated pseudo-science and phenotype supremacy this was exactly what Hitler did. Too many threads on "What is this person's type, what are insert group of people here" and little on the identity or culture of that person. Regardless if a Brit is "borreby" or "Keltic-Nordid" they are British first. I don't understand the obsession with having to classify people and put them into these little groups. Why does it matter so much. Ive never been one for anthropology DNA & culture matters a lot more IMO.

[Unome]

Adding to my other post about White being meaningless I think people should stop putting so much emphasis on outdated pseudo-science and phenotype supremacy this was exactly what Hitler did. Too many threads on "What is this person's type, what are insert group of people here" and little on the identity or culture of that person. Regardless if a Brit is "borreby" or "Keltic-Nordid" they are British first. I don't understand the obsession with having to classify people and put them into these little groups. Why does it matter so much. Ive never been one for anthropology DNA & culture matters a lot more IMO.
It's simple to understand.

There are 7bil "humans" in the world. You're not special nor unique as a "human".

But you are special as this race, that ethnicity, this group, but not that group. People desire individuality, specialty, uniqueness. Craving this need to differentiate from other people, suffices this natural desires to see oneself as different from others.

Everybody has the natural desire to separate from others, but the need and desire is different from one person to the next.


Europeans seem to have an extreme desire to separate; which is why Europeans separate so much into "ethnicity" and have ethnocentricism/xenophobia. Europeans are very guilty of this desire for uniqueness and separation.

Why else do Northern Euros consider yourselves "Scandinavian"? Why do you consider yourselves "Swedish" but not Norwegian or Finnish?

[denz]

Only strong and organized lives. Think hunter nomads died even they were more resistant to harsh condition but settlers (or peasants lets say) defeated nomadic lifestyle because of they organized professional armies.

So, i do not think that white race will not die but smaller and protected probably. May be you can refer died as swarthy ...

[Pure ja]

Adding to my other post about White being meaningless I think people should stop putting so much emphasis on outdated pseudo-science and phenotype supremacy this was exactly what Hitler did. Too many threads on "What is this person's type, what are insert group of people here" and little on the identity or culture of that person. Regardless if a Brit is "borreby" or "Keltic-Nordid" they are British first. I don't understand the obsession with having to classify people and put them into these little groups. Why does it matter so much. Ive never been one for anthropology DNA & culture matters a lot more IMO.

Part of both dna and culture is geographic.

[Pure ja]

It's simple to understand.

There are 7bil "humans" in the world. You're not special nor unique as a "human".

But you are special as this race, that ethnicity, this group, but not that group. People desire individuality, specialty, uniqueness. Craving this need to differentiate from other people, suffices this natural desires to see oneself as different from others.

Everybody has the natural desire to separate from others, but the need and desire is different from one person to the next.


Europeans seem to have an extreme desire to separate; which is why Europeans separate so much into "ethnicity" and have ethnocentricism/xenophobia. Europeans are very guilty of this desire for uniqueness and separation.

Why else do Northern Euros consider yourselves "Scandinavian"? Why do you consider yourselves "Swedish" but not Norwegian or Finnish?

Why do the LA fans start fights over LA Lakers and LA Clippers?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Caesar, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin etc.. Europeans always unite only to take them down eventually.

Im not forgetting US contribution but most of these collapsed from inside also, they cant function in Europe.

Economics is not all about size, it is about running a balanced budget, something that the representative goverments cant produce.

Switzerland is the only sane country in Europe, they have real democracy.

There's 30% christians copts in egypt, it's not like they are some tiny minority. But it's a different story to unite against outside fight and have to revolt against your own country. Long before they get majority status it will be completely impossible to turn it around through democratic means and you'll have to fight the army to take back control.

Regardless of if you think whites are dying off, first world lifestyle certainly is. They should be trying to reduce rest of population, not make population in the reasonably populated places come to third world levels.

[denz]

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[Prisoner Of Ice]

It's funny how many are quick to blame Jews, even though they're also white:picard2:

Seem to have same issue, in USA anyway.