Italian footballers and Portuguese footballers - compare and contrast

[Tooting Carmen]

ITALIANS:

http://bornoffside.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gianluigi-Buffon.jpg http://goalkeepermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Federico-Marchetti.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2012/324x324/106737.jpg http://hdwallpapersuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Andrea_Barzagli.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Leonardo_Bonucci_BGR-ITA_2012.jpg http://wallpapers99.com/Christian_Maggio--w1024x768--0--0--images/wallpaper/1024x768/Christian_Maggio_29574.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/DomenicoCriscito.jpg/220px-DomenicoCriscito.jpg http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/31136/ignazio-abate-photo-shot.jpg http://soomaalidamaanta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Andrea+Ranocchia+1.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Manuel+Pasqual+Italy+v+Armenia+_NZEms6OptOl.jpg http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Comp_Matches/01/83/43/42/1834342_w2.jpg http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1103486!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/daniele-de-rossi.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_h1W25Q8cJsM/TCPXxlDwnFI/AAAAAAAAADk/KeTaBfaDzh4/s1600/EH+Claudio+Marchisio.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/emanuele-giaccherini/emanuele-giaccherini-hairstyles7.jpg http://e2.365dm.com/12/04/800x600/Thiago-Motta-PSG_2753537.jpg?20131031112505 http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2013/324x324/103275.jpg http://www.bolognafc.it/img/cms/rid/342758336Alessandro-Diamanti.jpg http://i.smimg.net/11/36/alessiocerci1_20090616.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/13/2013/324x324/250026962.jpg http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrea+Poli+Italy+Training+Session+Press+Conferenc e+cdWLf9L5ejrl.jpg

[Rattata]

Where are the Portuguese? They're all Italian.

[Tooting Carmen]

http://cdn2.stbm.it/sportlive/gallery/foto/calcio/marco-parolo/marco-parolo.jpeg?-3600 http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/alberto-gilardino/alberto-gilardino-hairstyles1.jpg http://u.goal.com/111500/111598hp2.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Lorenzo_insigne.jpg/200px-Lorenzo_insigne.jpg http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Davide+Astori+k8V0qRvDVPLm.jpg http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/8/13/1250179950148/Alberto-Aquilani-001.jpg http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Federico+Peluso+cTjqCn916UZm.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Where are the Portuguese? They're all Italian.

Hold on.:picard1:

[Tooting Carmen]

PORTUGUESE:

http://i2.listal.com/image/1895815/600full-eduardo-carvalho.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/rui-patricio/rui-patricio-hairstyles4.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9KCmqdI8WRU/T76K2Z4Z_zI/AAAAAAAAAIs/ZXltYj31Jng/s320/980x735be.jpg http://img.khelnama.com/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width/public/previewimage/news/2012/Aug/Fabio%20Coentrao.jpg http://cdn.controlinveste.pt/storage/DN/2012/big/ng1999880.JPG http://www.zerozero.pt/img/geral/130569_galeria_.jpg.jpg http://107.imagebam.com/temporarylink/etJxo0UaAXnoNqjK09CJNg/1388699727/26067/260666493/Luis%20Neto.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Raul+Meireles+Ivory+Coast+v+Portugal+Group+AWOExQm 23Tsl.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/joao-moutinho/joao-moutinho-hairstyles2.jpg http://danisteb.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2012-06-11t115126z_01_aa20_rtridsp_3_soccer-euro.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/ruben-micael/ruben-micael-hairstyles.jpg http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/E5/47B3AE54DF962BFEEBF98FD12A34CF.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/hugo-almeida/hugo-almeida-hairstyles.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2013/324x324/1901643.jpg http://www.express.de/image/view/2011/9/10/10990292,7534235,highRes,XSP03A_71-24991881_ori.jpg http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2010-player-faces-facepacks/45689d1268278926-cut-out-faces-taking-requests-1907940.jpg http://www.sofoot.com/IMG/img-miguel-lopes-a-lyon-1373186295_620_400_crop_articles-171096.jpg http://russia.theoffside.com/files/2008/08/daniel-miguel-alves-gomes.jpg http://img.vavel.com/custodio_reuters__644x362_176514497.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/ruben-amorim/ruben-amorim-hairstyles1.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

http://www.calciomercato.it/imagenes/original/NEWS_1246052999_vieirinha.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9k9rnjiaMiw/SMWUeOtjFBI/AAAAAAAAAdw/favtRySLYIY/s400/paulomachado.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2010/324x324/48671.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2013/324x324/250017709.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Nelson_Oliveira_-_Croatia_vs._Portugal,_10th_June_2013_(crop).jpg http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Pizzi.jpg

[Rattata]

The portugese players can pass in Britain and France. Atlantic Facade.
The italian players pass in the Levant, Turkey. West Asian Facade.

[GrebluBro]

The portugese players can pass in Britain and France. Atlantic Facade.
The italian players pass in the Levant, Turkey. West Asian Facade.

LOL...only minority or max-half can in both teams

[Tooting Carmen]

One anomaly is that the Italian football team is pretty light-complexioned compared to previous years. Here is the team that won the 2006 World Cup (I think this team had more Southerners). Some of the players are already shown in the OP, so I shan't post them again:

http://img7.myimg.de/zaccardo22e731.jpg http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2010/324x324/65197.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/empressmaruja/e180d196.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Alessandro_Del_Piero.jpg http://www.calcioweb.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GennaroGattuso.jpg http://cdn.jolie.de/bilder/luca-toni-400x400-25523.jpg http://www.asroma.it/images/players/Totti.jpg http://www.paktribune.com/sports/imgfiles/Angelo%20Peruzzi_Italy.jpg http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alessandro+Nesta+Cagliari+Calcio+v+AC+Milan+i1nVa9 2HIdTl.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Ruberama/Serie%20A/Fangirls%20Guide%202007-8/Euros/Italy/MarcoAmelia.jpg http://www.infooggi.it/public/foto/articoli/a461a8b17875e3484fe21b85d6adb8f84c44bec33ac0b.jpg http://www.paktribune.com/sports/imgfiles/Simone%20Barone_Italy.jpg http://www.mvscreen.com/wallpaper/2012/11/09/pippo-inzaghi-submited-images-pic-2-fly.jpg http://www.repubblica.it/gallerie/online/spettacoli_e_cultura/calendario/5_g.jpg http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/wp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perrotta.jpg http://www.bolakita.com/foto_berita/2massimo%20oddo.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Ruberama/Serie%20A/Fangirls%20Guide%202007-8/Euros/Italy/MarcoMaterazzi.jpg

[Dynamo]

Yeah most players from the italian national football team are from the north. Most southerners play for seria b...mainly because most clubs in that division are from the south. Juventus and fiorentina are both based in the north, producing many talented italian footballers

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Yeah most players from the italian national football team are from the north. Most southerners play for seria b...mainly because most clubs in that division are from the south. Juventus and fiorentina are both based in the north, producing many talented italian footballers

It's the norm in Italy for southern and northern players to mostly play for teams from their regions? Sounds odd.

[Damião de Góis]

Here are a few more (and more successful) portuguese players from recent times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hhxbN6T6QLM/TAbc0t8a-fI/AAAAAAAACD4/zNO_CA5j1c0/s1600/jorge+costa.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xjgWKl2bqJE/TMX7ZXQeE3I/AAAAAAAAAX8/dpjnIMOSd8o/s1600/2002+03+Sporting.jpg

http://cache.images.globalsportsmedia.com/news/soccer/2009/4/12/newswide12271070750.jpg

http://www.site-de-joueurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/futre-porto.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWsNY8G0lrI9DEtvOtN-QVHNC4JCZi0H28cQltKAhz4UUewHrG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nbYTg0xke-A/UDS0dn6UkUI/AAAAAAAACMA/x1sejHSI_Do/s1600/Luis-Figo133.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XCDPqoybQKE/T-SaNkyezoI/AAAAAAAAAR4/_XfSBMQ8tjY/s1600/1995-1997+Portugal.jpg

http://www.supersporting.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Maniche0.jpg

http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/661c03c33563db1540e718542d1da956.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f46hl_Qypfg/UGHgxryqYsI/AAAAAAAAFWE/QzDRGoNjPAA/s640/FERNANDO+COUTO5.jpg

http://imagens0.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/387650?tp=UH&db=IMAGENS

http://www.fifproworldxi.com/files/original/carvalho07.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fa5KfryxP0k/UQFFzHSHVNI/AAAAAAAAGAM/YnmT0Pht3m4/s1600/pedro+barbosa+2002.jpg

[Dynamo]

It's the norm in Italy for southern and northern players to mostly play for teams from their regions? Sounds odd.

Maybe...no can deny the fact that there are more northern italians in the national team than southerners. If you see, southerners usually play for lower division teams, as well seria a. At the moment, most successful players are from the North, Pirlo, balzaretti,giaccherini, Buffon, santon, inzaghi, etc....oh and how can I forget ac Milan and inter Milan!?

[Anthropologique]

The portugese players can pass in Britain and France. Atlantic Facade.
The italian players pass in the Levant, Turkey. West Asian Facade.

There is no West Asian Facade.

[Argentano]

Thiago motta is brazilian and not italian

http://e2.365dm.com/12/04/800x600/Thiago-Motta-PSG_2753537.jpg?20131031112505

[Argentano]

Maybe...no can deny the fact that there are more northern italians in the national team than southerners. If you see, southerners usually play for lower division teams, as well seria a. At the moment, most successful players are from the North, Pirlo, balzaretti,giaccherini, Buffon, santon, inzaghi, etc....oh and how can I forget ac Milan and inter Milan!?

This are the southern italians from the National team..i checked all the ones that appeared in wikipedia

Criscito

http://archivo2012.diariodenavarra.es/uploads/imagenes/bajacalidad/2012/05/28/_1afp2805201208h12m0851_db0c0fdc.jpg

Abate

http://ciyaarahamaanta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Abate.jpg

Insigne

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lorenzo+Insigne+Italy+Training+Session+Press+wyCcg _8Qcvax.jpg

Verrati

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Marco+Verratti+Italy+Training+Session+Press+cRrW_3 6W0hzx.jpg

Nocherino

http://img0.gtsstatic.com/serie-a/antonio-nocerino_115780_wide.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Thiago motta is brazilian and not italian

http://e2.365dm.com/12/04/800x600/Thiago-Motta-PSG_2753537.jpg?20131031112505

But he's of fully Italian descent, thus he's legitimate.

[GrebluBro]

Thiago motta is brazilian and not italian

//
It is fine dude since he is full-Italian descent.
Moreover, roughly 1/3rd of Brazil-Europeans (assuming 30% of Brazil) or 10% of Brazil population is primarily Italian descent.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyway, can we now compare and contrast the phenotypes of the players from the two countries please?

[Sikeliot]

The Italians tend to be Dinaro-Med and Norid types, and look weighted toward north-central Italy phenotypically.

This one looks like a northern-southern mixture, or could pass as Jewish:

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Marco+Verratti+Italy+Training+Session+Press+cRrW_3 6W0hzx.jpg


As for the Portuguese, mostly Atlanto-Med, South Med, and Cromagnid in varying proportions.

[Tooting Carmen]

The Italians tend to be Dinaro-Med and Norid types, and look weighted toward north-central Italy phenotypically.

This one looks like a northern-southern mixture, or could pass as Jewish:

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Marco+Verratti+Italy+Training+Session+Press+cRrW_3 6W0hzx.jpg


As for the Portuguese, mostly Atlanto-Med, South Med, and Cromagnid in varying proportions.

Marco Verratti looks Slavic to me actually.

[Sikeliot]

Marco Verratti looks Slavic to me actually.

The only one who looks "East Med" and like a standard far southerner is Lorenzo Insigne.. but I know a few others are Campanian in this group. I don't know if there are any Sicilians other than the one who is also half Venetian and looks more Venetian.

[Tacitus]

The only one who looks "East Med" and like a standard far southerner is Lorenzo Insigne.. but I know a few others are Campanian in this group. I don't know if there are any Sicilians other than the one who is also half Venetian and looks more Venetian.

Three posted by la vita among the 2006 World Cup roster are from Calabria (Gattuso- 2nd one in the 2nd row; Iaquinta- 2nd one in the 4th row; Perrotta- on the left in the final row).

The only Sicilian I can think of from recent times is Francesco Coco: http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/31290/francesco-coco.jpg

And Verrati, the one you said looks like a north-south hybrid, is from Abruzzo FWIW.

[Sikeliot]

The only Sicilian I can think of from recent times is Francesco Coco: http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/31290/francesco-coco.jpg

I'm familiar with his phenotype because I use him as an example of a Sicilian who looks Greek.

[Tooting Carmen]

Your famous contributions...
Danny is a Venezuelan.

...Who is of full Portuguese descent from both of his parents, thus is a legitimate example. Just as I used Giuseppe Rossi and Thiago Motta in the Italian list, even though the former is American and the latter Brazilian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Alves#Mar.C3.ADtimo_.2F_Sporting

[Argentano]

The only one who looks "East Med" and like a standard far southerner is Lorenzo Insigne.. but I know a few others are Campanian in this group. I don't know if there are any Sicilians other than the one who is also half Venetian and looks more Venetian.

i psoted all the current southerns

[brazuca]

It is fine dude since he is full-Italian descent.
Moreover, roughly 1/3rd of Brazil-Europeans (assuming 30% of Brazil) or 10% of Brazil population is primarily Italian descent.

from where you get that shit about Brazil? 10% population mostly Italian:picard2:

[Prince Carlo]

North Italians make the majority of sportmen because North Italians also make the biggest part of the population of Italy (50%).

[Hadouken]

North Italians make the majority of sportmen because North Italians also make the biggest part of the population of Italy (50%).

50% = biggest part ?

mind = blown

[Gaita]

50% = biggest part ?

mind = blown

That's Nordopelli math. :)

School system must not be very good in Campania, that's why they don't do so well with science either....;)

[Anthropologique]

What is the purpose of this imbecilic thread?

[Gaita]

What is the purpose of this imbecilic thread?

To start a flame war..... :)

[jmls]

ITALIANS:

No more of these threads, seriously!

[Anthropologique]

The author of this thread is showing an increasing propensity for not only misrepresenting certain ethnicities (posted a mulatto Cape Verdean as native Portuguese among other "mistakes") but also starting controversial threads intended to spark emotional codswallop. Stop the crap!

[Tooting Carmen]

The intention of the thread was to contrast the phenotypes of Italian footballers with those of Portuguese footballers, but seems to have gone off on a tangent.

[Prince Carlo]

50% = biggest part ?

mind = blown


That's Nordopelli math. :)

School system must not be very good in Campania, that's why they don't do so well with science either....;)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/relative+majority

[Tooting Carmen]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/relative+majority

I think the best word for that concept is 'plurality'.

[Prince Carlo]

It's the norm in Italy for southern and northern players to mostly play for teams from their regions? Sounds odd.

Yes and no. Here is a list of South Italian soccer players who have played for Torino.

http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/campania.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/sicilia.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/calabria.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/abruzzo.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/puglia.html

[Trun]

Marco Verratti looks Slavic to me actually.

Rather like a half Russian, half Caucasian.

[Prince Carlo]

Rather like a half Russian, half Caucasian.

So whiter looking than the average Caucasian.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes and no. Here is a list of South Italian soccer players who have played for Torino.

http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/campania.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/sicilia.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/calabria.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/abruzzo.html
http://faccedatoro.altervista.org/puglia.html

Of those lists, the Sicilians seem to have the highest numbers of lighter-haired players, funnily enough.

[Trun]

So whiter looking than the average Caucasian.

And the average South Italian.

[Prince Carlo]

And the average South Italian.

Verratti is a South Italian, bro. Nice trolling attempt.

[Trun]

Verratti is a South Italian, bro. Nice trolling attempt.

But not the average.

[Prince Carlo]

But not the average.

I agree. Beside the eye colour, his facial features are more exotic than the average.

[Argentano]

I agree. Beside the eye colour, his facial features are more exotic than the average.

Seriously, If not for the light eyes, the guy looks pretty soutern if not more exotic..

[Prince Carlo]

Seriously, If not for the light eyes, the guy looks pretty soutern if not more exotic..

He looks like a light Georgian actually.

[田所浩二]

Verratti is a Central Italian.

[Alchemysta]

Dinaro meds alpines arabid influences atl-meds

[Antimage]

nvm

[Antimage]

One anomaly is that the Italian football team is pretty light-complexioned compared to previous years. Here is the team that won the 2006 World Cup (I think this team had more Southerners). Some of the players are already shown in the OP, so I shan't post them again:

g[/IMG]
half of these players are central italians. Del Piero is northern even. difference between central and southern italy isn't big

[Lusos]

The author of this thread is showing an increasing propensity for not only misrepresenting certain ethnicities (posted a mulatto Cape Verdean as native Portuguese among other "mistakes") but also starting controversial threads intended to spark emotional codswallop. Stop the crap!

Soon he will be a moderator

[Lusos]

Some more for comparison.

Dani
http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=424222&w=180

Jorge Ribeiro
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/jorge%20ribeiro.jpg

Cesar Peixoto
http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/benfica/2010/cesarpeixoto5.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp6HyLOVyr9iQ4qlrZD6ib3ZOFztuJ6 fa42MfQ5sbcpprkw4h6

Capucho
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/154466.gif

[dawson]

Yeah most players from the italian national football team are from the north. Most southerners play for seria b...mainly because most clubs in that division are from the south. Juventus and fiorentina are both based in the north, producing many talented italian footballers

Florence is considered Centre Italy. I counted 8 footballers with full Northern ancestry of all above

[Sikeliot]

Coloring is similar (the Italians slightly lighter with more Central european features) but the features do not really overlap.

[Lusos]

Coloring is similar (the Italians slightly lighter with more Central european features) but the features do not really overlap.

That's because I'm trying hard not to post the lighter ones.(Or the lighter pictures)
I'm being truthful with the stereotype.

[Lusos]

You want to know where you can find the more common Portuguese type? Or at least the ones I hang about and see on a normal bases.
In the youth academy's.
Most never make a career out of football.
The senior team It's a minority where even Brazilians,Cape-Verdeans,Gypsis play. Our League Is full of foreigners.
And even the youth team Is already highly Infiltrated.
A few examples.

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/CurrentTeam/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&Id=961454&w=210

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=827691&w=180

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=798902&w=180

Once a will this ones pop up.

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=815442&w=180

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=907384&w=180

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=771723&w=180

But there Is also this ones.
http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=772388&w=180

http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=805582&w=180

Interesting.They are all Portuguese.
http://www.fpf.pt/DesktopModules/PlayerDetail/GetPhotoControl.ashx?type=player&id=771600&w=180

[Ctwentysevenj]

There are more northern types in the Italian team.

[FilhoV]

Here are a few more (and more successful) portuguese players from recent times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hhxbN6T6QLM/TAbc0t8a-fI/AAAAAAAACD4/zNO_CA5j1c0/s1600/jorge+costa.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xjgWKl2bqJE/TMX7ZXQeE3I/AAAAAAAAAX8/dpjnIMOSd8o/s1600/2002+03+Sporting.jpg

http://cache.images.globalsportsmedia.com/news/soccer/2009/4/12/newswide12271070750.jpg

http://www.site-de-joueurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/futre-porto.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWsNY8G0lrI9DEtvOtN-QVHNC4JCZi0H28cQltKAhz4UUewHrG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nbYTg0xke-A/UDS0dn6UkUI/AAAAAAAACMA/x1sejHSI_Do/s1600/Luis-Figo133.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XCDPqoybQKE/T-SaNkyezoI/AAAAAAAAAR4/_XfSBMQ8tjY/s1600/1995-1997+Portugal.jpg

http://www.supersporting.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Maniche0.jpg

http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/661c03c33563db1540e718542d1da956.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f46hl_Qypfg/UGHgxryqYsI/AAAAAAAAFWE/QzDRGoNjPAA/s640/FERNANDO+COUTO5.jpg

http://imagens0.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/387650?tp=UH&db=IMAGENS

http://www.fifproworldxi.com/files/original/carvalho07.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fa5KfryxP0k/UQFFzHSHVNI/AAAAAAAAGAM/YnmT0Pht3m4/s1600/pedro+barbosa+2002.jpg
Jorge Costa was truly underrated. How the NT could use his if he was in his prime still playing

[Scar]

Italians are lighter than the Portuguese, but not by much.

Italians: Mostly Norid, Nordo-Med, Dinaro-Med, CM (including Berid in Perrotta or Gattuso), Dinaric, Med.

Portuguese: Atlantid, Atlanto-Med, Berid, South Med, Gracile-Med.

[nafz]

this guy looks like he is a member of an 80's heavy/hair metal band (Europe, poison, ratt, bon jovi, white lion, Cinderella etc)

https://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/661c03c33563db1540e718542d1da956.jpg

[Joso]

The difference is that Italians are more handsome( no homo)

[Odin]

Italian footballers are lighter.

[Tooting Carmen]

Update May 2020:

PORTUGAL

Rui Patricio
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/45026-1445432335.jpg

Beto
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-21KtV2y2lbU/TfViXYW-s7I/AAAAAAAAjgo/e3OOabBAseU/s1600/Beto%2B6.jpg

Jose Sa
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/249994-1446565387.jpg

Jose Fonte
https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2943836.1484855691!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/ratio_1x1_w1200/image.jpg

Ruben Dias
https://i2.wp.com/sillyseason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Benfica-talent-Ruben-Dias-signs-new-contract-with-improved-release-clause.jpg?fit=1200%2C816&ssl=1

Joao Cancelo
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/182712-1447246881.jpg

Mario Rui
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/168029.jpg

Domingos Duarte
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/257376-1583309064.jpg

Joao Moutinho
https://gossipgist.com/uploads/54/joao-moutinho-1.jpg

Bernardo Silva
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/241641-1520189140.jpg

Bruno Fernandes
https://d3vlf99qeg6bpx.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2020/02/20092750/Bruno.Fernandes3.jpg

Pizzi
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/157557.jpg

Ruben Neves
https://cdn.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Neves.jpg

Andre Silva
https://www.eintracht.de/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_12913-1567440543-DSC02636_536e47ef03.jpg

Gonçalo Paciência
https://www.eintracht.de/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_8946-1531380056-Goncalo_Paciencia__6__0737193add.jpg

Diogo Jota
https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/photo/2019/02/06/2afc2fae-f2e9-4634-baa4-2c4661115460/Diogo-Jota-Wolverhampton-Wanderers.png

Daniel Podence
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/256977-1510679159.jpg

Daniel Carriço
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/89198.jpg

Ferro
https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2019/324x324/250066118.jpg

Andre Gomes
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Andr%C3%A9_Filipe_Tavares_Gomes.jpg

Rafa Silva
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Shahter-Braga_%283%29.jpg

Gonçalo Guedes
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/faces/guedes-goncalo-image.jpg

João Félix
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Man-Utd-Joao-Felix-salary-1272555.jpg?r=1587581690392

[Tooting Carmen]

ITALY

Salvatore Sirigu
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fifa/images/a/a2/Salvatore_Sirigu.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180815221522

Gianluigi Donnarumma
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Gianluigi_Donnarumma_%2831895135436%29.jpg

Pierluigi Gollini
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/244192-1449060557.jpg

Alex Meret
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/240414-1449131500.jpg

Leonardo Bonucci
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/49399.jpg

Alessandro Florenzi
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/130365-1418134668.jpg

Alessio Romagnoli
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/218750.jpg

Cristiano Biraghi
https://static.inter.it/img/417591-6704e1d89cc31a19b277b3527fad49e90f2c3bf743226b062e 3bab52fcfed1bb.jpg

Francesco Acerbi
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/131075-1449059174.jpg

Armando Izzo
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/armando-izzo-of-torino-fc-during-the-serie-a-match-between-ssc-napoli-picture-id1204363908?s=612x612

Giovanni Di Lorenzo
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/PR4NX5/giovanni-di-lorenzo-empoli-during-the-italian-serie-a-match-between-empoli-1-1-milan-at-carlo-castellani-stadium-on-september-27-2018-in-empoli-italy-photo-by-maurizio-borsariaflo-PR4NX5.jpg

Andrea Cistana
https://img.footballindex.co.uk/andrea-cistana-g-t2.jpg

Nicolò Barella
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Chelsea-transfer-news-1071226.jpg?r=1547311136669

Nicolò Zaniolo
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/392085-1550050645.jpg

Sandro Tonali
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/photos/article31328579.ece/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1200/Brescia-midfielder-Sandro-Tonali

Gaetano Castrovilli
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/303116-1573227585.jpg

Rolando Mandragora (no, I cannot find any info about foreign ancestry)
https://as00.epimg.net/img/comunes/fotos/fichas/deportistas/r/rol/large/26081.png

Ciro Immobile
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/20150616_-_Portugal_-_Italie_-_Gen%C3%A8ve_-_Ciro_Immobile_1.jpg

Lorenzo Insigne
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/133964-1537708558.jpg

Andrea Belotti
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/167727-1455551535.jpg

Federico Bernadeschi
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Federico_Bernardeschi_2_%28cropped%29.jpg

Federico Chiesa
https://eurofootballrumours.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Federico-Chiesa-7-800-445.jpg

Riccardo Orsolini
https://www.bolognafc.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Riccardo-Orsolini-3.png

Alessio Cragno
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tswkpv56juY/maxresdefault.jpg

Antonio Mirante
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/12053.jpg

Leonardo Spinazzola
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/182544.jpg

Gianluca Mancini
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/13ImrqsN9KdaOn37VuPc96FFLPU=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/18313188/1151048122.jpg.jpg

Danilo D'Ambrosio
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/55769-1410340129.jpg

Luca Pellegrini
https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_912,h_516,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/cagliari-v-spal-serie-a-5d19dc28a45dd223c7000001.jpg

Giorgio Chiellini
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/29260-1448464153.jpg

Mattia De Sciglio
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/normal/mattia-de-sciglio-1404933515-1251.jpg

Marco Verratti
https://vz.cnwimg.com/thumb-1200x/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Marco-Verratti.jpg

Bryan Cristante
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Manchester-United-Bryan-Cristante-Transfer-Marouane-Fellaini-886490.jpg

Stefano Sensi
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Stefano_Sensi.jpg/220px-Stefano_Sensi.jpg

Lorenzo Pellegrini
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/R2FR9F/italy-serie-a-tim-2018-2019-as-roma-lorenzo-pellegrini-R2FR9F.jpg

Domenico Berardi
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/219472.jpg

Vincenzo Grifo
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/194544.jpg

Kevin Lasagna
https://cnr-player-img.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kevin-lasagna.jpg

Fabio Quagliarella
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/22328-1454336088.jpg

Leonardo Pavoletti
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/64793-1448531598.jpg

Matteo Politano
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/165895-1449060027.jpg

[Pedro Ruben]

Better picture of Rafa Silva
https://i.imgur.com/HZCcYLZ.png


This player is ethnic Italian?
https://i.imgur.com/mIGL4Ou.png

[Tooting Carmen]

Better picture of Rafa Silva
https://i.imgur.com/HZCcYLZ.png


This player is ethnic Italian?
https://i.imgur.com/mIGL4Ou.png

I cannot find any info about foreign origins.

[Damião de Góis]

Where is Cristiano Ronaldo?

[Cristiano viejo]

Where is Cristiano Ronaldo?

In Turín. :D

[Damião de Góis]

In Turín. :D

Probably Tooting Carmen excluded him because his cape verdean partial ancestry is known. But he had no problems posting Cancelo.

https://i.imgur.com/jblbBaY.jpg

I can't find any pictures or info of his parents, other that his father is called Joseph, and Cancelo's nickname was "Cigano". But he is alright to post and not Cristiano...

https://lifebogger.com/pt/joao-cancelo-hist%C3%B3ria-de-inf%C3%A2ncia-mais-fatos-de-biografia-n%C3%A3o-revelada/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9705229/man-city-joao-cancelo-mum/

Of course in real life no one questions if Cristino Ronaldo is fully portuguese or not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Probably Tooting Carmen excluded him because his cape verdean partial ancestry is known.

Precisely.


But he had no problems posting Cancelo.

https://i.imgur.com/jblbBaY.jpg

I can't find any pictures or info of his parents, other that his father is called Joseph, and Cancelo's nickname was "Cigano". But he is alright to post and not Cristiano...

https://lifebogger.com/pt/joao-cancelo-hist%C3%B3ria-de-inf%C3%A2ncia-mais-fatos-de-biografia-n%C3%A3o-revelada/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9705229/man-city-joao-cancelo-mum/

Of course in real life no one questions if Cristino Ronaldo is fully portuguese or not.

Is there any source that Cancelo is Gypsy? Or is it just pure speculation and conjecture?

[Damião de Góis]

Precisely.



Is there any source that Cancelo is Gypsy? Or is it just pure speculation and conjecture?

There is no source that he is gypsy like there isn't any source saying that he is fully portuguese. I also didn't say he was gypsy (i have no idea of what he is), his team mates in the youth teams were the ones who called him "gypsy" due to his appearence (this is googleable). So apparently i'm not the only one who thinks he looks off. I googled him now when i saw his thread and found out that his father is called Joseph so that's another hint that he might have other ancestry if his appearence isn't enough to have doubts.

https://www.abola.pt//img/fotos/ABOLA2015/FOTOSDR/INGLATERRA/2019/CanceloCity2DR.jpg
https://www.abola.pt//img/fotos/ABOLA2015/FOTOSDR/FPF/CanceloSemedoDR.jpg

I find that cycling doesn't attract these dark, ambiguous, possibly mixed types as well as blacks like football does so you can compare, since you obviously have doubts on how people look like here:


http://www.fullracing.pt/wp-content/uploads/IMG_2265_1.jpg
http://www.ciclismo.la/2019/FOTOS/APRESENTACAO_DA_EQUIPA/Untitled-5.png
https://www.kellyservices.pt/pt/contentassets/cdded91d07ba4aaf9fae5afeec1cbf58/ciclismo-kelly.jpg
https://www.rodanafrente.pt/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/boavista-site.jpg

[Daniel123]

these are the most up to date pictures
https://www.uefa.com/european-qualifiers/teams/66--italy/squad/

italy has finer features from asia minor portugal has more robust bigger features from north africa

[Tooting Carmen]

There is no source that he is gypsy like there isn't any source saying that he is fully portuguese. I also didn't say he was gypsy (i have no idea of what he is), his team mates in the youth teams were the ones who called him "gypsy" due to his appearence (this is googleable). So apparently i'm not the only one who thinks he looks off. I googled him now when i saw his thread and found out that his father is called Joseph so that's another hint that he might have other ancestry if his appearence isn't enough to have doubts.

https://www.abola.pt//img/fotos/ABOLA2015/FOTOSDR/INGLATERRA/2019/CanceloCity2DR.jpg
https://www.abola.pt//img/fotos/ABOLA2015/FOTOSDR/FPF/CanceloSemedoDR.jpg

I find that cycling doesn't attract these dark, ambiguous, possibly mixed types as well as blacks like football does so you can compare, since you obviously have doubts on how people look like here:


http://www.fullracing.pt/wp-content/uploads/IMG_2265_1.jpg
http://www.ciclismo.la/2019/FOTOS/APRESENTACAO_DA_EQUIPA/Untitled-5.png
https://www.kellyservices.pt/pt/contentassets/cdded91d07ba4aaf9fae5afeec1cbf58/ciclismo-kelly.jpg
https://www.rodanafrente.pt/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/boavista-site.jpg


Yeah Portuguese rugby players also look different to the footballers, including some I have posted myself: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?285541-Classify-the-Portuguese-U20-s-rugby-team