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Argentano
01-11-2014, 03:27 AM
Please Classify River Plate "new" striker, Fernando Cavenaghi

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4jvA_7odazU/S__51XNQpgI/AAAAAAAAADg/-jDFpF1AUSY/s320/Fernando%2BCavenaghi2.jpg

http://www.prensapuradigital.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cavenaghi.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img407/7995/8216x.jpg

http://old.ole.clarin.com/diario/2005/08/25/um/cave.jpg

http://ultimahora.es/sfAttachPlugin/getCachedContent/id/41438

http://bimg1.mlstatic.com/cuadros-decorativos-river-plate-15x20_MLA-F-3398631112_112012.jpg

http://www.ole.com.ar/river-plate/futbol/Cavenaghi-posando-Ole_OLEIMA20111229_0047_1.jpg

http://web.ole.com.ar/seleccion/Cavenaghi-Faraones-Mundial-Emiratos-Arabes_OLEIMA20110809_0062_15.jpg

Tropico
01-11-2014, 03:28 AM
Looks more Italian than Italians.

Mn The Loki TA Son
01-11-2014, 03:29 AM
North Atlantid-Nordid

Sikeliot
01-11-2014, 05:22 AM
Atlanto-Med.

Smeagol
01-11-2014, 05:36 AM
Atlanto-Nordid.

Ianus
01-11-2014, 06:27 AM
Atlantomed+Nordic

curiousman
01-11-2014, 12:13 PM
"Cavenaghi" very Lombard surname

oh-nahhh
01-11-2014, 01:00 PM
North Atlantid or Atlanto-Nordid.

Argentano
02-05-2014, 10:35 PM
bump

mikeyup
02-05-2014, 10:40 PM
in the first 3 photos he reminded me of jared leto

Tacitus
02-06-2014, 12:43 AM
Atlanto-Med. Looks French.

Incal
02-06-2014, 12:46 AM
Norid.

Sharkeatpeople
02-06-2014, 02:46 PM
Atlanto-Nordid +CM.

Styrian Mujo
02-06-2014, 02:48 PM
Atlanto-Med.
:picard2:

Argentano
02-08-2014, 10:50 PM
:picard2:

what would you say?

SardiniaAtlantis
02-08-2014, 10:52 PM
Atlantid-NordAtlantid.

éire_nua
06-24-2014, 06:35 PM
Fernando Cavenaghi, whilst he might have Italian heritage aswell, I am almost certain he is of Irish heritage, the name "Cavenagh" is very common in Ireland. Many of the Irish who emigrated to Argentina changed their names to fit in with local language. And so, Cavenagh likely became Cavenaghi.

Fernando is actually from a place called, "O'Brien" in Argentina, named after an Irish emigré Eduardo O Brien, from County Wexford in the South of Ireland.

Peyrol
06-24-2014, 06:39 PM
Fernando Cavenaghi, whilst he might have Italian heritage aswell, I am almost certain he is of Irish heritage, the name "Cavenagh" is very common in Ireland. Many of the Irish who emigrated to Argentina changed their names to fit in with local language. And so, Cavenagh likely became Cavenaghi.

Fernando is actually from a place called, "O'Brien" in Argentina, named after an Irish emigré Eduardo O Brien, from County Wexford in the South of Ireland.

Nope.

It's a lombard surname as all the surnames ending in ''-aghi''

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/C/CAVENAGHI.gif

éire_nua
06-24-2014, 07:10 PM
Nope.

It's a lombard surname as all the surnames ending in ''-aghi''

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/C/CAVENAGHI.gif

I stand corrected, very similar to cavenagh, the particular part of Ireland I come from, Wesmeath/Longford in the Midlands had many Irish who went to Argentina. I will continue to support Fernando, great player... and being from O'Brien, there is a bit of Irish there somewhere

éire_nua
06-24-2014, 07:12 PM
Nope.

It's a lombard surname as all the surnames ending in ''-aghi''

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/C/CAVENAGHI.gif

I stand corrected, very similar to cavenagh, the particular part of Ireland I come from, Wesmeath/Longford in the Midlands had many Irish who went to Argentina. I will continue to support Fernando, great player... and being from O'Brien, there is a bit of Irish there somewhere

Ulla
06-24-2014, 07:22 PM
Fernando Cavenaghi, whilst he might have Italian heritage aswell, I am almost certain he is of Irish heritage, the name "Cavenagh" is very common in Ireland. Many of the Irish who emigrated to Argentina changed their names to fit in with local language. And so, Cavenagh likely became Cavenaghi.

Fernando is actually from a place called, "O'Brien" in Argentina, named after an Irish emigré Eduardo O Brien, from County Wexford in the South of Ireland.

Please, stop. Cavenaghi is typical surname of Lombardy.

http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani/CAVENAGHI

Peyrol
06-24-2014, 07:22 PM
I stand corrected, very similar to cavenagh, the particular part of Ireland I come from, Wesmeath/Longford in the Midlands had many Irish who went to Argentina. I will continue to support Fernando, great player... and being from O'Brien, there is a bit of Irish there somewhere

Maybe there is a connection, since the indigenous population of Lombardy, the lombards, are gallo-romance people, derived from the syncretism between gaulish and roman culture.

Ulla
06-24-2014, 07:25 PM
Maybe there is a connection, since the indigenous population of Lombardy, the lombards, are gallo-romance people, derived from the syncretism between gaulish and roman culture.

Peyrol, Cavenaghi is a lombard surname that derives from a toponym, Cavenago in Brianza.

Peyrol
06-24-2014, 07:27 PM
Peyrol, Cavenaghi is a lombard surname that derives from a toponym, Cavenago in Brianza.

And the toponym orogin is...?

Ulla
06-24-2014, 07:30 PM
And the toponym orogin is...?

Cavenach is its lombard name, but the only hypothesis found is this "Cavanacum or Cavenagum from Cà venationis". Nothing more.

Peyrol
06-24-2014, 07:32 PM
Cavenach is its lombard name, but the only hypothesis found is this "Cavanacum or Cavenagum from Cà venationis". Nothing more.

This sound weak as phylogenesis, IMHO.

Ulla
06-24-2014, 07:34 PM
This sound weak as phylogenesis, IMHO.

I know you :) you are guessing if it's a Celtic toponym.

C'è anche un altro Cavenago, Cavenago d'Adda in provincia di Lodi. Mmm. Si fa interessante.


http://www.comune.cavenagodadda.lo.it/

éire_nua
06-24-2014, 07:42 PM
The names are unlikely to have any connection. The name in Irish only goes back to the 12th century, Caomhánach. When Irish names were bastardised into English it took some of the below forms.

Clann Chaomhánach/Cavanagh covers the following known variations of the family name: Kavanagh, Kavanaugh, Kavanah, Kavenah, Kabana, Kavaner, Kavenaugh, Kavanacht, Kaveny, Cavanaugh, Cavanah, Cavenah, Cavana, Cavana, Cavner, Cavenaugh, Cavender, Cavenogh, Cavnar, Cavignac, Cavanaogh, Cavanogh, Cabanah, Chaomhanach and many others...

Anyway, as I said many of the Irish who went to Argentina changed their names and became part of Argentine society, the Lombardy Cavenaghi is very similar and he being from O'Brien I presumed it was an Irish translation.

I am glad I have learned something today, btw he does look Irish :p

Fedex
06-24-2014, 07:48 PM
Mostly andinid amerindian, with some minor dinaro-med influence.

Ulla
06-24-2014, 08:36 PM
The names are unlikely to have any connection. The name in Irish only goes back to the 12th century, Caomhánach. When Irish names were bastardised into English it took some of the below forms.

Clann Chaomhánach/Cavanagh covers the following known variations of the family name: Kavanagh, Kavanaugh, Kavanah, Kavenah, Kabana, Kavaner, Kavenaugh, Kavanacht, Kaveny, Cavanaugh, Cavanah, Cavenah, Cavana, Cavana, Cavner, Cavenaugh, Cavender, Cavenogh, Cavnar, Cavignac, Cavanaogh, Cavanogh, Cabanah, Chaomhanach and many others...

Anyway, as I said many of the Irish who went to Argentina changed their names and became part of Argentine society, the Lombardy Cavenaghi is very similar and he being from O'Brien I presumed it was an Irish translation.

I am glad I have learned something today, btw he does look Irish :p

I care little if Cavenaghi is of Italian or Irish or Chinese descent. But you should start to show us some sources. I showed you that Cavenaghi is a surname from Lombardy, Northern Italy. Otherwise it is just your opinion.

Ulla
06-24-2014, 08:49 PM
"Cavenaghi" very Lombard surname

Yes, I finally found. His family is from Concorezzo, in the province of Monza and Brianza, a time in province of Milan. Fernando Cavenaghi has double passport, Argentinian and Italian. It's sure that his paternal line is Italian from Lombardy.

Styrian Mujo
06-26-2014, 02:53 PM
Atlantid leaning towards Nordid.

Mortimer
06-26-2014, 03:10 PM
atlanto-nordid

RiverPlate
07-20-2014, 12:13 PM
The names are unlikely to have any connection. The name in Irish only goes back to the 12th century, Caomhánach. When Irish names were bastardised into English it took some of the below forms.

Clann Chaomhánach/Cavanagh covers the following known variations of the family name: Kavanagh, Kavanaugh, Kavanah, Kavenah, Kabana, Kavaner, Kavenaugh, Kavanacht, Kaveny, Cavanaugh, Cavanah, Cavenah, Cavana, Cavana, Cavner, Cavenaugh, Cavender, Cavenogh, Cavnar, Cavignac, Cavanaogh, Cavanogh, Cabanah, Chaomhanach and many others...

Anyway, as I said many of the Irish who went to Argentina changed their names and became part of Argentine society, the Lombardy Cavenaghi is very similar and he being from O'Brien I presumed it was an Irish translation.

I am glad I have learned something today, btw he does look Irish :p

You can find Cavanagh, Cavignac and Cavnar surnames in Argentina. And you're right, some irish-argentines changed their names (now some of them are taking the originals back!)
We are proud of the irish community in Argentina. Great people, like our navy's father William Brown.

Oddone
06-17-2015, 10:29 AM
atlanto-nordid