Pontid = Irano Nordid

[Cleitus]

Pontids are Nordid Iranid not Mediterranean.

"Pontics" of the Central-Eastern Europe are descendants of Iranic stock and they are "North-Iranids" in the classification of dr. Engel (this term actually is much more correct).

Atlanto-meds has wide long faces, robust chins and robust bone structure while Pontid has quite long narrow face, moderate chin and much more leptosome bone structure And Pontid are more lighter while Atlanto-Med are darker.

Nord-Iranids are not represent Mediterranean in racial stock but "Aryan" (in classical meaning) stock.

http://oi40.tinypic.com/2i043n6.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1706/tat13eo.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4898/escanear00036vs.jpg

http://s011.radikal.ru/i316/1101/31/a5ec1708b983.jpg

http://www.allempires.com/Uploads/MRamin.jpg

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4055/8019.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/ei9nis.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x36/patrick-tovma/bagian_james.jpg

http://avdusamed.beepworld.de/files/samidinxhezairi-komandanthoxha-2.jpg

[Dynamo]

Iranids ARE part of the Mediterranean race, pontid and iranid are fairly close to each other.

[Cleitus]

Iranids ARE part of the Mediterranean race, pontid and iranid are fairly close to each other.

ehhmm No

[Jizo]

I disagree :) Plus Iranids are subtype of Med, but just like Dinaric and Armenoid are different, so Pontid and Iranid are different :) There are three main things of the white race:
1. Alpine
2. Med
3. Nordic
Nordic and Med are really close, Alpine is kinda different, all the other white types are subtypes of these three core things or mixture between them :) This is what I believe really,really strong and this is what makes sense to me :)

[gregorius]

This guy James Bagian is not iranid, he is a depigmented armenoid

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x36/patrick-tovma/bagian_james.jpg

[Cleitus]

This guy is not iranid, he is a depigmented armenoid

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x36/patrick-tovma/bagian_james.jpg

surely not, this is Armenoid http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/armenoid2.jpg

[gregorius]

surely not, this is Armenoid http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/armenoid2.jpg

Surely not that guy is Lebanese. Some wacko classified this lebanese guy who doesnt look like an armenian at all as armenoid.

[Cleitus]

Surely not that guy is Lebanese. Some wacko classified this lebanese guy who doesnt look like an armenian at all as armenoid.

He is the Archetypus of Armenoid.So only armenians can be armenoid ?

[gregorius]

He is the Archetypus of Armenoid.So only armenians can be armenoid ?

basicly yes, some others too but not that guy.

[Cleitus]

basicly yes, some others too but not that guy.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/340/276/e77.jpg

[gregorius]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/340/276/e77.jpg

you dont have to

[Cleitus]

you dont have to

There are Armenoid Greeks there are Armenoid Kurds (Very Common) there are Armenoid Italians (in the south also very common) there are Armenoid Jews ( also very common).

[gregorius]

Iranids ARE part of the Mediterranean race, pontid and iranid are fairly close to each other.

:rolleyes:

[cally]

Zadik - can you not be rude to people who have a different opinion please? I really don't see the need for such insults.

I have deleted some of your posts.

[madridi4verrr]

pontid and iranid are fairly close to each other.

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/No+there+aliens+that+are+on+facebook+_735616e4f725 504905342318fdbb09d4.jpg

[gregorius]

There are Armenoid Greeks there are Armenoid Kurds (Very Common) there are Armenoid Italians (in the south also very common) there are Armenoid Jews ( also very common).

Lol there are hardly greek armenoids
Most kurds look iranid not armenoid
Southern Italians look mostly eastmed and not armenoid
and most jews dont look armenoid. Sephardic look med ashkenazi's can look like everything and mizrahi look eastmed.

[Cleitus]

Lol there are hardly greek armenoids
Most kurds look iranid not armenoid
Southern Italians look mostly eastmed and not armenoid
and most jews dont look armenoid. Sephardic look med ashkenazi's can look like everything and mizrahi look eastmed.

Around the half of the Turks i know are Armenoid the kurds nearly all, just take a look at south italian mafia bosses all Armenoid.
I know 4 Greeks all of them are Armenoid.

[armenianbodyhair]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/340/276/e77.jpg

[Cleitus]

Zadik - can you not be rude to people who have a different opinion please? I really don't see the need for such insults.

I have deleted some of your posts.

I get Rude when People play Racial Professor.

[gregorius]

Around the half of the Turks i know are Armenoid the kurds nearly all, just take a look at south italian mafia bosses all Armenoid.

Bullshit

Turks are turanid-med, kurds are Iranid and southern italians are med/eastmed

Im probably a good example of how an armenoid looks like and I dont look anything like the ethnicities you summed up above.


I get Rude when People play Racial Professor.

Should we get rude to you ?

[SardiniaAtlantis]

http://cdn.niketalk.com/b/b3/350x700px-LL-b31fa768_tumblr_inline_mjxoudNRnY1qz4rgp.gif

[gregorius]

If you wanna instult me zadik I can insult you too. Do you seek some drama ?

[Cleitus]

Bullshit

Turks are turanid-med, kurds are Iranid and southern italians are med/eastmed

Im probably a good example of how an armenoid looks like and I dont look anything like the ethnicities you summed up above.
You did learn from Hans F.K Günther ?? so all turks are turanid med and all kurds are Iranid and southern italians are all med wow how long did it take to classify them all. :picard1:

[Cleitus]

If you wanna instult me zadik I can insult you too. Do you seek some drama ?
No, go away now Mexican pervert.

[Peikko]

The Pontic type was spread to North Eastern Europe by Indo-European expansion and it's somewhat related to Indo-Aryans through Indo-European connection. I'm not sure if they're the same type in anyway, though.

[Alatta]

There are Armenoid Greeks there are Armenoid Kurds (Very Common) there are Armenoid Italians (in the south also very common) there are Armenoid Jews ( also very common).

% of convex noses by country

Armenia: 62%
Albania (Ghegs): "well over 50%"
Montenegro: 52%
Jews (Ashkenazi): "far fewer than 50%"
Ireland: 45%
Basques: 43% (Spanish); 49% (French)
Netherlands (Frisians): 35%
Italy (North): 32%
Greece: 30%
Switzerland: 25%
Serbia: 25%
Ukraine (Volhynians): 17%
Spain: 15%
Bulgaria: "rare"

-Coon

Probably you call it Dinaric being Albanian but it's one of the factors making the Taurid range.

The rest are differences between Iranid and Pontid and pigmentation.

Pontid is less robust without the downturned nose and mostly lighter.

[Cleitus]

% of convex noses by country

Armenia: 62%
Albania (Ghegs): "well over 50%"
Montenegro: 52%
Jews (Ashkenazi): "far fewer than 50%"
Ireland: 45%
Basques: 43% (Spanish); 49% (French)
Netherlands (Frisians): 35%
Italy (North): 32%
Greece: 30%
Switzerland: 25%
Serbia: 25%
Ukraine (Volhynians): 17%
Spain: 15%
Bulgaria: "rare"

-Coon

Probably you call it Dinaric being Albanian but it's one of the factors making the Taurid range.

The rest are differences between Iranid and Pontid and pigmentation.

Pontid is less robust without the a downturned nose and mostly lighter.

Hey did you personally mess all those Noses ?

[gregorius]

No, go away now Mexican pervert.

im not mexican you idiot


You did learn from Hans F.K Günther ?? so all turks are turanid med and all kurds are Iranid and southern italians are all med wow how long did it take to classify them all. :picard1:

Are you insane? Most turks are turanid med yes, most kurds are iranid and most southern italians are some sort of variation of med.

[Jizo]

Hmm,I am not that familar with the rules of the forum, but I though thumbs down is for statements which are insulting or personal attacks. Some poster called Ultra, with which I have never,ever spoken have given me thumbs down. Well my oppinion stays the same :)

[Jizo]

Another thumbs down from Zadik, it is clear he and the poster Ultra are best friends that attack posters on this forum. Moderators please do something, I have not insulted anybody. I do not like their rude behavior. :)

[tEhSaint]

Pontid is definitely not Irano-Nordid.

Pontid is the result of mixing Caucasid (i.e Armenoid variants) with the Mediterranean people. Russian old school Anthropologists explained this well.

[Alatta]

Hey did you personally mess all those Noses ?

Nordic-Albanian

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15200&stc=1&d=1315936437


Foreign vibe but still could pass in Germany.

[Cleitus]

Pontid is definitely not Irano-Nordid.

Pontid is the result of mixing Caucasid (i.e Armenoid variants) with the Mediterranean people. Russian old school Anthropologists explained this well.
Biggest Bullshit i heard ever, Armenoid and Mediterranean are both Dark Pigmented. Pontid is Lighter than both, also they have totally different features than Pontid.

[Cleitus]

% of convex noses by country

Armenia: 62%
Albania (Ghegs): "well over 50%"
Montenegro: 52%
Jews (Ashkenazi): "far fewer than 50%"
Ireland: 45%
Basques: 43% (Spanish); 49% (French)
Netherlands (Frisians): 35%
Italy (North): 32%
Greece: 30%
Switzerland: 25%
Serbia: 25%
Ukraine (Volhynians): 17%
Spain: 15%
Bulgaria: "rare"

-Coon

Probably you call it Dinaric being Albanian but it's one of the factors making the Taurid range.

The rest are differences between Iranid and Pontid and pigmentation.

Pontid is less robust without the downturned nose and mostly lighter.

What do you mean with Robust ?

[armenianbodyhair]

Another thumbs down from Zadik, it is clear he and the poster Ultra are best friends that attack posters on this forum. Moderators please do something, I have not insulted anybody. I do not like their rude behavior. :)
Jizo is alive! Where did you disappear to, my true love, everyone on anthroscape was devastated by your disappearance.

[Hellenas]

PONTIC. A variety of Mediterranean or Atlanto-Mediterranean, so named by Bunak. It is concentrated in Bulgaria and in the Rumanian lowlands: it also is found in the Caucasus and Ukraine and westward sporadically as far as Germany, Poland, and Lithuania.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troe-appendixII.htm

PONTID (Cherkess type)

Mediterranid subtype. Pontids are found in greatest concentration in southeastern Europe (the Balkans, southern Romania, the Ukraine), and predominate in regions immediately adjacent to the Black Sea (including parts of the Caucasus), after which Bunak named the type (Pontic; to the ancient Greeks, the Black or Euxine Sea was known as Pontos, "the Sea"). The type is tall (yet not as tall as the Atlanto-Mediterranid type) and quite gracile, with smooth facial features, and is characterized by a high skull, a narrow forehead, somewhat narrow apertures of the eyes, and a lighter pigmentation compared to the Mediterranid mean. Cf. North-Pontid.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#P

Pontic racial type

"In studying the racial composition of southern Russia, there was evidence of a moderately tall, long-headed, brunet Mediterranean form, which is concentrated along the northern shore of the Black Sea, but which also appears sporadically in the entire Russian population. To western Europeans and Americans, it is better known than its frequency would warrant, for it is exemplified by several world famous ballerinas and opera singers. This is the Mediterranean racial division which the Russian anthropologists call Pontic139 and which the Poles recognize as a very minor element in their own population. It is with little doubt of Neolithic date in southern Russia, Rumania, Bulgaria, and the Hellespont region, and probably in Greece and the Aegean. In most of Thrace it seems more basic than the Danubian, or at least more common."

www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII16.htm

[Lemon Kush]

I think the opposite. Pontid type doesn't exist but is just a sub type of Atlanto-Med.

[Ataman]

Hmm,I am not that familar with the rules of the forum, but I though thumbs down is for statements which are insulting or personal attacks. Some poster called Ultra, with which I have never,ever spoken have given me thumbs down. Well my oppinion stays the same :)

I had Petros randomly thumping down all my posts because I thumbed down one of his dumb posts.

[kevinmac]

Nordic-Albanian

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15200&stc=1&d=1315936437


Foreign vibe but still could pass in Germany.


He can pass anywhere in Northern Europe.

[Prism]

I am Pontid !

[Teja]

Nordic-Albanian

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15200&stc=1&d=1315936437


Foreign vibe but still could pass in Germany.
What does Nordic-Albanian mean? That guy is kurdish.

[Vorg]

Pontid - is too vague a concept. There is Caucasian, Russian, Volga, Ukrainian, southern European and other variants of the Pontids. For example, Russian "pontids" and Caucasian or Volga "pontids" factually have nothing to do with each other.