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Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:03 AM
Which country(ies) would you guess this group as having an origin in?

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Wadaad
01-21-2014, 01:04 AM
Mexico?

TheBlondeSalad
01-21-2014, 01:05 AM
Puertorriqueños

SardiniaAtlantis
01-21-2014, 01:09 AM
Puertorriqueños

Agreed!!

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:10 AM
Agreed!!

What makes you say so?

SardiniaAtlantis
01-21-2014, 01:12 AM
What makes you say so?
They look like the product of Iberians mixed with SSA and there is a good amount of varying levels of admix in them as well which I find true of PR's.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:13 AM
They look like the product of Iberians mixed with SSA and there is a good amount of varying levels of admix in them as well which I find true of PR's.

Id argue there is more Amerindian present than SSA in this group.

portusaus
01-21-2014, 01:16 AM
Id argue there is more Amerindian present than SSA in this group.

Most of them, but the dude on the far right looks quite SSA.

TheBlondeSalad
01-21-2014, 01:16 AM
They look like the product of Iberians mixed with SSA and there is a good amount of varying levels of admix in them as well which I find true of PR's.

SSA? Apart from the darkest guy on the right, I'd say it's actually hardly visible :confused:

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:17 AM
What is of significance is that whatever else they are admixed with, it's enough to differentiate them from Europeans. Personally I see more Amerindian than SSA.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:20 AM
Puerto Ricans rarely look European. We only have around, at most, 10-15% AT MOST who look truly European. The majority are Pred Euro with good levels of admixture giving us a New World vibe.

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:25 AM
Puerto Ricans rarely look European. We only have around, at most, 10-15% AT MOST who look truly European. The majority are Pred Euro with good levels of admixture giving us a New World vibe.

dbbrainer says the majority look fully European, or at least passable. :lol:

I'd think 20% at most, but then again those who aren't, are going to be more European than not.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:26 AM
dbbrainer says the majority look fully European, or at least passable. :lol:

I'd think 20% at most, but then again those who aren't, are going to be more European than not.

Nah. MOST, def not. lol Most look pred Euro with a Amerindian, MENA or SSA or all three. Def Pred Euro, up there around top 6 in Latin America BUT def not passing AS European. We def have a New World look.

SardiniaAtlantis
01-21-2014, 01:28 AM
I suppose I could be confusing Amerindian for SSA admix, but in that case both are still present.

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:28 AM
Nah. MOST, def not. lol Most look pred Euro with a Amerindian, MENA or SSA or all three. Def Pred Euro, up there around top 6 in Latin America BUT def not passing AS European. We def have a New World look.

And then contrary to the other side of what people say, I think Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are highly differentiable.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:29 AM
And then contrary to the other side of what people say, I think Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are highly differentiable.

Theres some over lap but NO ONE would confuse a crowd pic of Puerto Rico with being Dominican, and vice versa.

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:31 AM
Theres some over lap but NO ONE would confuse a crowd pic of Puerto Rico with being Dominican, and vice versa.

Unless the Puerto Ricans were from Carolina or Loiza.

Diërker
01-21-2014, 01:32 AM
They look like your friends. And I would say Haiti/Jamiaca/Mehxiko?

afrotaino
01-21-2014, 01:34 AM
I can see that Ameridian more strong than SSA , so they are boricuas but can be cubans or dominicans too

afrotaino
01-21-2014, 01:38 AM
And then contrary to the other side of what people say, I think Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are highly differentiable.

Cibaenos are like puertoricans, 70/80% white 15/20 black and 10/20 Ameridian

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:38 AM
I can see that Ameridian more strong than SSA , so they are boricuas but can be cubans or dominicans too

To me they are more representative of Puerto Ricans as a whole. Cubans are either very Euro (95%+) or mulatto-pred SSA. While Puerto Ricans are around 70% Caucasian with the rest being Amerindian/SSA/MENA in varying degrees. And DR are basically mulattoes with minor Amerindian.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:39 AM
They look like your friends. And I would say Haiti/Jamiaca/Mehxiko?

Zimbabwe.

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:40 AM
To me they are more representative of Puerto Ricans as a whole. Cubans are either very Euro (95%+) or mulatto-pred SSA. While Puerto Ricans are around 70% Caucasian with the rest being Amerindian/SSA/MENA in varying degrees. And DR are basically mulattoes with minor Amerindian.

I think Puerto Ricans are European-dominant triracials (in ones with heavy African, European is still the largest component even if not exceeding 50%), Cubans are basically like the white and black populations in the US in terms of ratio of European to African (racial mixing was outlawed until 50 years ago), and Dominicans are like Cape Verdeans with some Amerindian.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:44 AM
I think Puerto Ricans are European-dominant triracials (in ones with heavy African, European is still the largest component even if not exceeding 50%), Cubans are basically like the white and black populations in the US in terms of ratio of European to African (racial mixing was outlawed until 50 years ago), and Dominicans are like Cape Verdeans with some Amerindian.

Accurate. Strangely, Puerto Rico, really is the Whitest of the Antilles. But by NO means, are we White.

afrotaino
01-21-2014, 01:46 AM
To me they are more representative of Puerto Ricans as a whole. Cubans are either very Euro (95%+) or mulatto-pred SSA. While Puerto Ricans are around 70% Caucasian with the rest being Amerindian/SSA/MENA in varying degrees. And DR are basically mulattoes with minor Amerindian.

Yeah, but many cibaeños look like this people, but you're right

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:48 AM
Accurate. Strangely, Puerto Rico, really is the Whitest of the Antilles. But by NO means, are we White.

What is likely to happen in Cuba is, since most of the people who come to the US from there are white, the island is going to be almost as black as the English and French speaking Caribbean within the next 50 years, I believe. The sort of demographic shift in Cuba is not like anything else in the Hispanic world due to emigration.

Tropico
01-21-2014, 01:50 AM
What is likely to happen in Cuba is, since most of the people who come to the US from there are white, the island is going to be almost as black as the English and French speaking Caribbean within the next 50 years, I believe. The sort of demographic shift in Cuba is not like anything else in the Hispanic world due to emigration.

Its a shame. Cuba, out of all the Caribbean nations, had the best chance at being a first world nation. Great culture, decent amount of resources, etc. But they fucked it up and then the US, till this day, is making sure they stay down.

Sikeliot
01-21-2014, 01:53 AM
Its a shame. Cuba, out of all the Caribbean nations, had the best chance at being a first world nation. Great culture, decent amount of resources, etc. But they fucked it up and then the US, till this day, is making sure they stay down.

It's because the wealthiest Cubans (land-owners, elites, business owners) came to the US to flee Castro, and the population in Cuba today is the African descended population that was historically marginalized and oppressed, so under those conditions it is unlikely they have the tools needed to become the new elites. It'd be like if every white American fled to Europe, and African Americans were the only population left. After being oppressed for so long, can they just jump into positions of leadership and out of poverty?

Castro obviously didn't understand that socialism doesn't work.

Sharkeatpeople
01-21-2014, 10:29 AM
True Americans.