Kiev mass riots LIVE!!!

[Vlach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V_Utg-xFes

HAVE FUN !
http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/popcorn.jpg

[Vlach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0sHvtRaGe0

[Loki]

Idiots. They should be shot.

[VAARON]

g-d bless them , freedom lovers . i pray for you .

[Graham]

Achh missed the fun. Nows it's some Marquees in the snow.

At least thrown snow balls or something.

[Loki]

g-d bless them , freedom lovers . i pray for you .

They are not freedom lovers, they're America/EU cannon fodder.

[Vlach]

Idiots. They should be shot.

LOL? Why?

[VAARON]

They are not freedom lovers, they're America/EU cannon fodder.

putin maybe hard on filthy islamists , but he is hard on his people too . kiev does not want that . they want freedom . i respect that .

[Óttar]

Idiots. They should be shot.
Putin has the right to decide what is right for his country, but the citizens of Ukraine have no right to decide the destiny of theirs? Hmmm.

[Loki]

Putin has the right to decide what is right for his country, but the citizens of Ukraine have no right to decide the destiny of theirs? Hmmm.

What are you talking about? The eastern half of Ukraine is populated by Russian speakers who like Russia. It's the western half that don't like Russia. Perhaps the best for Ukraine is that the country be split into two.

Remember the current pro-Kremlin president Yanukovic won the elections.

[Peikko]

I was hoping some good monkey action. What a disappointment.

[Vlach]

What are you talking about? The eastern half of Ukraine is populated by Russian speakers who like Russia. It's the western half that don't like Russia. Perhaps the best for Ukraine is that the country be split into two.

Remember the current pro-Kremlin president Yanukovic won the elections.

Today the ukrainans portest for freedom not for EU or Russia.

"The new curbs on protests, which have been signed into law by the president, include:

A ban on the unauthorised installation of tents, stages or amplifiers in public places
Provision to arrest protesters wearing masks or helmets
A ban on protests involving more than five vehicles in convoy lol?
Hefty fines or jail for breaches of law"

[Leo Iscariot]

If they wanna be the latest EU puppet, then let them.

I reckon this is like when you were a kid and you wanted to touch the stove eye. They just have to experience it for themselves.

[Vlach]

If they wanna be the latest EU puppet, then let them.

I reckon this is like when you were a kid and you wanted to touch the stove eye. They just have to experience it for themselves.

And being a Russia puppet is better?

[RussiaPrussia]

and this is why this country is a third world country. They need strong leadership like in belarus and russia

[Leo Iscariot]

And being a Russia puppet is better?

I believe they call this situation "Jumping out of the frying pan, and into the fire."

[Vlach]

and this is why this country is a third world country. They need strong leadership like in belarus and russia

Belarus? Really?

[Jackson]

Interesting watching the police tactics 55-58 minutes in.

[InperatoreBT]

Idiots. They should be shot.

[Vlach]

http://rt.com/files/news/21/e6/e0/00/kiiiiieeeevvvv-1.jpg

Wtf? LOL

[Loki]

If they wanna be the latest EU puppet, then let them.


The majority of Ukrainians don't want to be. Just a large, vocal, criminal minority.

[Kiyant]

Well it sucks for Ukraine they have the choice to be Russia puppet or become a EU puppet which majorly sucks ass since both choices are terrible.

[VAARON]

The majority of Ukrainians don't want to be. Just a large, vocal, criminal minority.

they want freedom . fact . (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304644104579193992459983238)

[sevruk]

Idiots. But fun. Fun if you not live in Ukraine

[Zaycev]

RIOTS RIOTS RIOTS

I FUCKING LOVE RIOTS!

[ALL]

Everyone deserves the right to live in freedom from corruption. Pro-corruption forces will do everything in there means to justify their legitimate rule. Corrupt government, corrupt police, corrupt army, let the people have a fair election and vote, case closed.

[Vlach]

ACAB!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0zD3pOG-Tk

[Wadaad]

Same elements that riled up and created the Arab spring are behind this, pretty obvious.

[Mason8]

I hope that both sides will not pass the "no-return" zone and start a civil war. However, the laws about public meetings that were signed on Jan 16th, is one more reason for Ukrainians to reject the president and his gang. 

[Vlach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZcAsPKK74#t=956803

[Loki]

Same elements that riled up and created the Arab spring are behind this, pretty obvious.

Exactly.

[Incal]

Perhaps the best for Ukraine is that the country be split into two.

Indeed.

[Lurker]

I believe they call this situation "Jumping out of the frying pan, and into the fire."

Between a rock and a hard place.

[Äijä]

Good solution would be, if the locals want it, to give Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea to Russia.
Maybe economically it will hurt Ukraine in the short term but holding on to the majority Russian areas seems more harmful.

[Hweinlant]

Why do you people hate Russian speaking Ukrainians ? They too have every right to be free. It's hilarious how bunch of guys who can take rule of law as grantage are dividing countries. Free Ukraine, from west to east! Next step Russia!

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/C3/13D4D6E81068665587D5A6A6F422_h243_w430_m2_q80_ctUj JkCay.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/im318x.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/2j41v0n.png

[RandoBloom]

Poor Ukrainians had enough of Russian bullying. I hope they get free

[SKYNET]

Ukrainians against Ukrainians, only bad impressions after watching that videos

[Hweinlant]

Ukrainians against Ukrainians

No, Ukrainians against the Tyrant/Dictator and his troops. I hope Ukrainians win.

[Hweinlant]

Priest are protecting Ukrainians from the troops of Mordor:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ohpnid.png

Kiev stands still!
http://i43.tinypic.com/10nrh3l.png

And fights back!
http://i44.tinypic.com/ztt0gh.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/miklkk.png

[Hweinlant]

Grandmother on the barricades (must be evil ultranationalist!):
http://i44.tinypic.com/2n8a3p2.png

Tens of thousends of evil Ukrainian nationalists!
http://i43.tinypic.com/t5g7e0.png

1 hour ago, 7 days of battle , people against the dictator:
http://i44.tinypic.com/jaiexl.png

[Hweinlant]

http://www.businessinsider.com/understanding-euromaidan-2014-1




BUSINESS INSIDER More: Ukraine
A Ukrainian Journalist Explains 10 Things The West Needs To Know About The Situation In Kiev


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/understanding-euromaidan-2014-1#ixzz2rMVi5yZx

[Hweinlant]

Ukrainian hero challenging troops of dictator with chainsaw, standing on the burning barricades, few minutes ago:
http://i42.tinypic.com/i6ze6v.png

[Hweinlant]

@twitter follow #euromaidan , revolution live

http://i43.tinypic.com/apehwy.png

This is not left-wing antifa losers but popular Ukrainian nationalist uprising!

[Hweinlant]

Gremlin propaganda (Russia Today / RT) accusing Ukrainians for the violence in their own country, when troops of dictator shoot Ukrainians, well done..
http://i43.tinypic.com/ma8p6u.png

[Jackson]

http://www.businessinsider.com/understanding-euromaidan-2014-1

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

I'll safely say i'm on their side, then.

[Empecinado]

Another prefabricated revolution xD

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oPeuu7viYsY/UuIeuzmtSmI/AAAAAAAAAUY/s9ze74awu0U/s320/tahrir-maidan.jpg

[Hweinlant]

What a surprise, IceSwan neg repping me. Ukraine today is Poland 30 years ago. Like Poland, Ukraine must saw herself OFF from the Evil Empire.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2rel4zn.png

[Hweinlant]

Another prefabricated revolution xD

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oPeuu7viYsY/UuIeuzmtSmI/AAAAAAAAAUY/s9ze74awu0U/s320/tahrir-maidan.jpg

KGB propaganda. Syria should be free too, unfortunately because of Russian anti-democratic stance the country is now filled with criminal muslim jihadists.

[Empecinado]

KGB propaganda. Syria should be free too, unfortunately because of Russian anti-democratic stance the country is now filled with criminal muslim jihadists.

Was the CIA and Gulf monarchies who backed and funded these "revolutions" which have destroyed these countries. Blame Russia for the Jihadist rise is just idiotic, and even more to think that these CIA prefabricated revolutions are going to bring freedom.

[RandoBloom]

Was the CIA and Gulf monarchies who backed and funded these "revolutions" which have destroyed these countries. Blame Russia for the Jihadist rise is just idiotic, and even more to think that these CIA prefabricated revolutions are going to bring freedom.

Russia IS the one to blame. IF RUSSIA hasnt blocked aid and action in Syria there would be no Jihadists.

[Methmatician]

Gremlin propaganda (Russia Today / RT) accusing Ukrainians for the violence in their own country, when troops of dictator shoot Ukrainians
I laughed when I heard a Russian news channel accusing Ukrainian protesters of being closet homosexuals :laugh: Another Russian news channel stated that if Ukraine were to join the European Union that paedophilia will become legal. It's pretty obvious to see that Russian media and state has morphed into one entity.

[Vlach]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/24/kiev-protesters-occupy-government-building-truce-ukraine

Live now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZcAsPKK74

[PowerControls]

It seemed to me that полезные идиоты became extinct. I was wrong....

[Empecinado]

Russia IS the one to blame. IF RUSSIA hasnt blocked aid and action in Syria there would be no Jihadists.

Bullshit. Look at Lybia, Russia didn't intervene there and was flooded with Jihadists anyway.

[RandoBloom]

Bullshit. Look at Lybia, Russia didn't intervene there and was flooded with Jihadists anyway.

Not true. Libyan dictator was given guarantees by Russia and he decided to fight because of that. And there werent any jihadists in sufficient numbers there

[Äijä]

Why do you people hate Russian speaking Ukrainians ? They too have every right to be free. It's hilarious how bunch of guys who can take rule of law as grantage are dividing countries. Free Ukraine, from west to east! Next step Russia!

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/C3/13D4D6E81068665587D5A6A6F422_h243_w430_m2_q80_ctUj JkCay.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/im318x.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/2j41v0n.png

I said if they want out, I am not an expert what is going on the ground.
If they do want out, it is a good way for Ukraine to get some pressure off.
Russia is not going to come "Western" for a long time, a stable goverment is what Im happy with.

[Empecinado]

Not true. Libyan dictator was given guarantees by Russia and he decided to fight because of that. And there werent any jihadists in sufficient numbers there

Russia didn't use its veto in the UN to block the invasion, Gadafi decided to fight because he had a shitload of gold to pay mercenaries. Was NATO which gave weapons and air cover to the Jihadist militias, not only those present in Lybia but those who came from outside.

[Vlach]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q82/s720x720/1606989_607416779326580_1989048286_n.jpg

Best photo

[RussiaPrussia]

No, Ukrainians against the Tyrant/Dictator and his troops. I hope Ukrainians win.

which ukrainians west or east?

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.businessinsider.com/understanding-euromaidan-2014-1

keep your propaganda for your self gypso

[glass]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q82/s720x720/1606989_607416779326580_1989048286_n.jpg

Best photo
dont be silly it does not look like photo

[glass]

btw i think Ukraine should be splited into 2 states, western monkeys can join west/EU/whatever they want
industial east can have friendly relations with its neighbours and better life (because there will not be need to cede huge part of their earnings to monkeys in the western Ukraine)

[RussiaPrussia]

russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia

[Vlach]

btw i think Ukraine should be splited into 2 states, western monkeys can join west/EU/whatever they want
industial east can have friendly relations with its neighbours and better life (because there will not be need to cede huge part of their earnings to monkeys in the western Ukraine)

This west monkeys are fighting for democracy, go fuck yourself with your east slaves.

[Vlach]

russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia

Of course, that's how russians resolve always the problems. With tanks

[glass]

russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia
well eventualy it will happen all russian lands reunite with Russia
real Ukraine - poorest and shittest most western part of nowadays country - will remain independant

[RussiaPrussia]

Of course, that's how russians resolve always the problems. With tanks

and americans not? We have to bring stability a second bosnia shall not happen in europe. Youre just a nazi kid defending bloodshed.

[glass]

This west monkeys are fighting for democracy, go fuck yourself with your east slaves.
east slaves had over thousand years and still have their own independant state
what about ur gypso people?

[Äijä]

russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia

You being the extreme nationalist are right in your guess, that is what Moscow is planning also.

Easier and peaceful would be that oppostition take power in Ukraine and the East have referendum and vote for it, this would be best way to do it for Russia also.
We dont need conflict and economic turmoil but maybe if you can break the EU I would support it. :rolleyes:

[Empecinado]

I remember the riots happened here 2 years ago. The miners isolated a region by cutting roads with burning barricades and fought the police using homemade rocket launchers, many people got hurt. This barely had any relevance in international media, none international organization or country asked to stop the violence...why? Because they were protesting against the EU!

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/Protestas-mineros-Santiago_de_Aller-recortes-mineria-Asturias-Espana-cuenca_minera_MDSIMA20120706_0413_4.jpg

http://www.leonoticias.com/adjuntos/guerra7.jpg

[Äijä]

The propaganda in Russian television has signs of preparing Russians for conflict, the invasion is now in the table in Moscow most likely.
They need a good pretext, either real or created and they may take the Eastern Oblasts and Crimea.
Piss poor effort from USA and EU that is has come to this, no real statesmen anymore.

[Vlach]

east slaves had over thousand years and still have their own independant state
what about ur gypso people?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g76venlIl5I

Troll level 9999999

Basescu: "Romania do not have the experience to annexe another states"

[Trun]

Support for Ukrainian rebels, may the country free from the bear's grasp.

[SKYNET]

Obviously, Russia will participate in the next part of the geopolitical wars against other ex-commie states a.k.a the second Georgia on Aug 8. The communists also will have to face to face meeting with Romania in the battlefield to steal the entire Transnistria which is the part of republic of Moldova and actually belongs to Moldovans(Romanians). I very much hope that Ukraina won't lose its Eastern part in the war against Russia.

[Methmatician]

dont be silly it does not look like photo
Seems to be edited.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q82/s720x720/1606989_607416779326580_1989048286_n.jpg
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=0a185d2f88834985e6a1f433e3f50da986 85cbb1.125067&fmt=ela

[RandoBloom]

Russia didn't use its veto in the UN to block the invasion, Gadafi decided to fight because he had a shitload of gold to pay mercenaries. Was NATO which gave weapons and air cover to the Jihadist militias, not only those present in Lybia but those who came from outside.

The Russia didnt use Veto, but they promised Gadafi to use it. Thats what led to war.


btw i think Ukraine should be splited into 2 states, western monkeys can join west/EU/whatever they want
industial east can have friendly relations with its neighbours and better life (because there will not be need to cede huge part of their earnings to monkeys in the western Ukraine)

Yeah, the east can then become like East Germany :D


russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia

And the area east of Urals should be liberated from Russia.


and americans not? We have to bring stability a second bosnia shall not happen in europe. Youre just a nazi kid defending bloodshed.

Exactly a reason why it should go pro-Europe. Bosnia is in a state it is because of pro-Russian idiots called Serbs

[RussiaPrussia]

The Russia didnt use Veto, but they promised Gadafi to use it. Thats what led to war.



Yeah, the east can then become like East Germany :D



And the area east of Urals should be liberated from Russia.



Exactly a reason why it should go pro-Europe. Bosnia is in a state it is because of pro-Russian idiots called Serbs

Unlike you who are mixed with Gypsies and turks russians are mixed with uralic people the whole north eurasian part is out homeland given by mother russia.

[Empecinado]

The Russia didnt use Veto, but they promised Gadafi to use it. Thats what led to war.


:picard2:

The war was started by Jihadists, not by Gadafi.

[Vlach]

There's are no ukrainians on forum?

[kwp_wp]

^it seems there is nobody.
I am now in Kiev but I am not Ukrainian
in the place I stay everything is just normal - no signs of any riots

there is even no Ukrainian subforum on TA...

[Vlach]

^it seems there is nobody.
I am now in Kiev but I am not Ukrainian
in the place I stay everything is just normal - no signs of any riots

there is even no Ukrainian subforum on TA...

How many peoples are on streets?And why is impossible for the police to attack them?

[kwp_wp]

as I said: I don't know
Haven't been there lately

[Vlach]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2cwkkea.png

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/12/ukraine-2004.jpg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2014/01/ukraine-protests-map-k.jpg

[RussiaPrussia]

look at these terrorists



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc

[Alenka]

I remember the riots happened here 2 years ago. The miners isolated a region by cutting roads with burning barricades and fought the police using homemade rocket launchers, many people got hurt. This barely had any relevance in international media, none international organization or country asked to stop the violence...why? Because they were protesting against the EU!

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/Protestas-mineros-Santiago_de_Aller-recortes-mineria-Asturias-Espana-cuenca_minera_MDSIMA20120706_0413_4.jpg

http://www.leonoticias.com/adjuntos/guerra7.jpg
Exactly. When a protest is against EU, the supposedly sympathetic international/western media proves to be not any less biased than the Russian media that they constantly blame. EU/America and it's propaganda-filled media is certainly not some moral authority to criticize another country's media for being biased.

[Vlach]

look at these terrorists



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc

Fighting for freedom=terrorism?

[Cleitus]

look at these terrorists



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc

Warum schiessen die nicht einfach mit Gummigeschossen auf dei Demonstranten ein paar schüsse in die Menge und die verpfeifen sich.

[Vlach]

Exactly. When a protest is against EU, the supposedly sympathetic international/western media proves to be not any less biased than the Russian media that they constantly blame. EU/America and it's propaganda-filled media is certainly not some moral authority to criticize another country's media for being biased.

And russians are doing the same. In Romania, russians are paying the civilians from Pungesti for example, to protest against shale gas.

[RussiaPrussia]

And russians are doing the same. In Romania, russians are paying the civilians from Pungesti for example, to protest against shale gas.

its the Germans so you buy useless renewable energy

[Vlach]

its the Germans so you buy useless renewable energy

what?

[Vlach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZcAsPKK74

What they attack?

[Shkembe Chorba]

http://www.fotw.net/images/u/ua%5Ecgs1.jpg

Support for the people of Kiev.

Революцiя!

[Hweinlant]

Evil nazi girl providing evil nazi stuff:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3hx52.png

http://i40.tinypic.com/f9jama.png

GAME ON!

[Hweinlant]

which ukrainians west or east?

There are no west and east Ukrainians, there are Ukrainians. Fuck muscovy.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Evil nazi girl providing evil nazi stuff:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3hx52.png
The was probably financed by the super evil UK, and became rich.

[Matt5898]

There are no west and east Ukrainians, there are Ukrainians. Fuck muscovy.

LOL, then show the photos of riots from 3 biggest cities of Ukraine (excluding Kiev) - Kharkov, Odessa and Donetsk. Do you know how many people protest there?

[Lemon Kush]

The truth is most Ukrainians don't want to join the EU, especially Russian populated areas. Same with Serbia. I agree that many of these protesters are probably paid by the Western powers to start a scandal and make it seem like Ukraine is pro EU. BUT what I don't agree is that Ukraine should be split in two. Last thing that is needed in Europe is more micro states. Western Ukraine is probably too poor to survive on its own anyway.

[RandoBloom]

LOL, then show the photos of riots from 3 biggest cities of Ukraine (excluding Kiev) - Kharkov, Odessa and Donetsk. Do you know how many people protest there?

Some people are too scared remembering what you did to Ukraine with *cough* starvation *cough*
Not to mention your bullying and using the gas as a mean to get Ukraine to do your bidding. Its enough. Russia should fuck off.
You have more than enough land, and all of it is a shithole apart from 3 major cities. And you still want more to mismanage

[RandoBloom]

The truth is most Ukrainians don't want to join the EU, especially Russian populated areas. Same with Serbia. I agree that many of these protesters are probably paid by the Western powers to start a scandal and make it seem like Ukraine is pro EU. BUT what I don't agree is that Ukraine should be split in two. Last thing that is needed in Europe is more micro states. Western Ukraine is probably too poor to survive on its own anyway.

Oh sure, the Russian areas are nice and not preasured, while the western ones are risking their lives for money. Clasic serbian ideology. Sick sick and sick.

[Methmatician]

Exactly. When a protest is against EU, the supposedly sympathetic international/western media proves to be not any less biased than the Russian media that they constantly blame. EU/America and it's propaganda-filled media is certainly not some moral authority to criticize another country's media for being biased.
The difference here is the Russian media isn't just showing bias, it's spreading misinformation and distorting reality. Also, the protests became violent after a new law that was passed that made public protests illegal. Now the Ukrainian people have no way to pressure the government into doing what the citizens want them to do so these protesters are now angry at the government for 1) not listening to them and 2) taking away their right to public displays of protest.

[Matt5898]

Some people are too scared remembering what you did to Ukraine with *cough* starvation *cough*
Not to mention your bullying and using the gas as a mean to get Ukraine to do your bidding. Its enough. Russia should fuck off.
You have more than enough land, and all of it is a shithole apart from 3 major cities. And you still want more to mismanage

I'm Ukrainian born, you clown.
And who cares about opinion of Bosniaks? One of two nations of Europe who didn't resist to dedication to Islam...dweebs. Eternal poverty and three parts of country hating each other. The opinion that Ukraine or Russia need to hear the least is the opinion of such countries like Bosnia...

[Matt5898]

Oh sure, the Russian areas are nice and not preasured, while the western ones are risking their lives for money.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Ukraine_GRP_per_capita_2008_US_dollars_%28nominal% 29.png/400px-Ukraine_GRP_per_capita_2008_US_dollars_%28nominal% 29.png

Yes, it is. All developed, "green" regions, excluding Poltava, are Russian speaking. And western part has GDP per capita even lower than your third-world counrty.
Wait, you didn't know that? Poor you ;(

[Vlach]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2zxwlea.png

[RandoBloom]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Ukraine_GRP_per_capita_2008_US_dollars_%28nominal% 29.png/400px-Ukraine_GRP_per_capita_2008_US_dollars_%28nominal% 29.png

Yes, it is. All developed, "green" regions, excluding Poltava, are Russian speaking. And western part has GDP per capita even lower than your third-world counrty.
Wait, you didn't know that? Poor you ;(

Thats because Russia is strangling those who opose them, while rewarding their lapdogs.

[Shkembe Chorba]

LOL, then show the photos of riots from 3 biggest cities of Ukraine (excluding Kiev) - Kharkov, Odessa and Donetsk. Do you know how many people protest there?
In Lviv 100,000 people attended funeral of the opposition activist:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1470/km7b.png

More Lviv:

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/26/01/32/5772955/5/628x471.jpg

Ternopil:

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/ternopil-ukraine-protest-euromaydan-ternopil-against-president-yanukovych-35653998.jpg

More ternopil:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bthFlDzJn4s

Khmelnytskyi government building being occupied:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BewmcN4IgAALN6C.jpg

23 of January, Red is occupied government buildings, orange is attacked:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ber_M5KCEAAHYnK.jpg

24 of January, red is occupied, pink is blocked, grey is attacked:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bes_9mWCUAAb2du.jpg

Even Obelix is supporting the people of Ukraine:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/834956222.png

And the orders directly from Kremlin:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeoirHFIIAA5MAa.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ben2P93CQAAwzEP.jpg

[Trun]

^^Nice signature.

[IceSwan]

Russia is strangling those who opose them.
me? strangling? :shocked:

[RandoBloom]

me? strangling? :shocked:

Yes, Remember when Ukraine tried to do something that you didnt agree with. And you cut off gas deliveries and such ?

[Loki]

Bring in the army and demolish all their camps.

[YeshAtid]

Hopefully, the protesters will prevail and strive to rid Ukraine of the chains shackling her, keeping her in Putin's dominion. May he rot in hell!
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/QLv25-3Gxas/hqdefault.jpg

[YeshAtid]

Yes, Remember when Ukraine tried to do something that you didnt agree with. And you cut off gas deliveries and such ?

The Russian leadership is inept, hence desperate measures are used. We need sanctions on Russia pronto, otherwise she'll implode from Putin's colossal complex.

[Lemon Kush]

Oh sure, the Russian areas are nice and not preasured, while the western ones are risking their lives for money. Clasic serbian ideology. Sick sick and sick.

It can still receive some funding from the east if the country is one. If western Ukraine separates it will be even worse for them. Second, I'm not Serb.

[Äijä]

Bring in the army and demolish all their camps.

I think the army refuse to do that, we need statesmen and real diplomacy, not shooting and escalation, to solve this.

Finnish foreign minister, he is clown but in this he is right, said that a planned EU and Russia meeting was trashed by the EU leaders without notifing the EU member states.
This is serious and shows the extent of the threat EU is to security and democracy in Europe.
Finnish interest is a peaceful solution to this crisis, EU is taking this towards a total train wreck.

[YeshAtid]

russia should invade ukraine and take eastern ukraine back to russia

Or maybe the civilised should impose sanctions on the godforsaken country called Russia, and see how much VVP helps them.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I think the army refuse to do that, we need statesmen and real diplomacy, not shooting and escalation, to solve this.

Finnish foreign minister, he is clown but in this he is right, said that a planned EU and Russia meeting was trashed by the EU leaders without notifing the EU member states.
This is serious and shows the extent of the threat EU is to security and democracy in Europe.
Finnish interest is a peaceful solution to this crisis, EU is taking this towards a total train wreck.

So the EU can eventually subsume Ukraine at a bargain price, perhaps. Just guessing.

[RandoBloom]

It can still receive some funding from the east if the country is one. If western Ukraine separates it will be even worse for them. Second, I'm not Serb.

"Some funding". Meaning no funding and doing everything Russia wants and they will be allowed to breathe. If not, sanctions by Russia.
And you dont have to be Serb to have their ideology. You dont have to be a German to be a nazi

[RussiaPrussia]

Some people are too scared remembering what you did to Ukraine with *cough* starvation *cough*
Not to mention your bullying and using the gas as a mean to get Ukraine to do your bidding. Its enough. Russia should fuck off.
You have more than enough land, and all of it is a shithole apart from 3 major cities. And you still want more to mismanage

starvation? it were mostly russians who died during starvation


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu4g3l_russians-suffered-most-under-communism-not-ukrainians-or-baltics-9-million-death-people-forgotten_news

so russian mismangement? Russia is one of the richest countries in eastern europe especially in comparison to ukraine and bosnia.

[RandoBloom]

starvation? it were mostly russians who died during starvation


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu4g3l_russians-suffered-most-under-communism-not-ukrainians-or-baltics-9-million-death-people-forgotten_news

so russian mismangement? Russia is one of the richest countries in eastern europe especially in comparison to ukraine and bosnia.

"Russians" :picard2:

Compared to your teritory you are equal to Bushmen of africa

[Minesweeper]

Bring in the army and demolish all their camps.

There would be too many causalities on both sides and it would only help the opposition at the end. Yanukovich should strengthen his positions and ensure army and police are loyal and well paid and if possible, units from Eastern Ukraine should be deployed to Kiev. Protesters will give up eventually and if they try anything, God help them.

Having in mind that opposition leader is an idiot named Klitschko, we can expect their violent actions in near future.

[Vlach]

There would be too many causalities on both sides and it would only help the opposition at the end. Yanukovich should strengthen his positions and ensure army and police are loyal and well paid and if possible, units from Eastern Ukraine should be deployed to Kiev. Protesters will give up eventually and if they try anything, God help them.

Army attacking their own people? Nice ideas.

[IceSwan]

Or maybe the civilised should impose sanctions on the godforsaken country called Russia, and see how much VVP helps them.
oh, you are cannibal

[YeshAtid]

oh, you are cannibal
The Russian people are being held to ransom by the scum named Putin. May he die a painful death!

[Minesweeper]

Army attacking their own people? Nice ideas.

Would it be first time in history? New presidential elections will be held in 2015 and people will have a chance to change the president legally. I do not support coup and army and police should prevent it.

[Vlach]

Would it be first time in history? New presidential elections will be held in 2015 and people will have a chance to change the president legally. I do not support coup and army and police should prevent it.

LOL, When a president becomes retarded, legally is to give him a kick in the ass. Is the first revolution?

[Loki]

It is high time that Ukraine split in two. The Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainians shouldn't have to be forced to be in the same country as the western, butthurt, protesting, Lithuanian-influenced western Ukrainian untermenschen.

[Loki]

Having in mind that opposition leader is an idiot named Klitschko, we can expect their violent actions in near future.

Indeed. What does a battered boxer know about politics?

[Vlach]

It is high time that Ukraine split in two. The Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainians shouldn't have to be forced to be in the same country as the western, butthurt, protesting, Lithuanian-influenced western Ukrainian untermenschen.

Yes, but why do you call them butthurt? Because they do not wanna to be with Russia, because they dont get nothing from Russia?

[Loki]

Yes, but why do you call them butthurt? Because they do not wanna to be with Russia, because they dont get nothing from Russia?

They are dumb. If Ukraine joins the EU it is bound to become the next Greece. Or even worse. Also, the EU can't afford taking in a new partner with a population of 50 million that will be the poorest in the block. Turkey would be a better bet.

[Graham]

Ukraine would suffer a brain drain if it unites with the EU. Losing good Ukrainians to Western Europe.

Can understand why many would dislike a Union with their historical neighbour also.

[Vlach]

They are dumb. If Ukraine joins the EU it is bound to become the next Greece. Or even worse. Also, the EU can't afford taking in a new partner with a population of 50 million that will be the poorest in the block. Turkey would be a better bet.

And if they join the Euroasia they will be in heaven?

[Loki]

These 'protesters' are nothing more than a bunch of criminals

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-main.si.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-9.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-6.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-1.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-7.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-2.jpg

http://rt.com/files/news/21/f4/c0/00/protest-4.jpg

[RussiaPrussia]

There's are no ukrainians on forum?

samartian

[Trun]

These 'protesters' are nothing more than a bunch of criminals

No, they are just patriots tired of their country being ruled by foreign policies.

[Alenka]

The difference here is the Russian media isn't just showing bias, it's spreading misinformation and distorting reality.
Censorship is different from spreading misinformation only in the sense that it's a different method, but it sure isn't different in the sense of being any less wrong. It certainly isn't fair-play. And it's not like the international/Western media never downright spreads misinformation either. As for distorting reality, ignoring anti-EU protests also is distorting reality. As such, the international/Western media is far from being an objective, truthfull, honest, sympathetic, morally unquestionable source that it likes to mispresent itself as. Such dishonest media blaming some other media for not being fair-play is downright hilarious. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

[Minesweeper]

LOL, When a president becomes retarded, legally is to give him a kick in the ass. Is the first revolution?

So it's legal and alright to use force if you are a protester in a mob but it is not alright if you are a ruler?

[Empecinado]

These objective, fancy and truthful Western media ignored the miners riots happened here just because they were protesting against the EU. They had dynamite and rocket launchers and even tried to bring down a police helicopter (first video 1:10), a whole region was isolated because they cut all the roads, and a little girl was hurt by the police.

But nobody gave a shit. Informative silent. No USA politicians went here. None asking for economic sanctions. All is fine in the EU, if there's some trouble and oposition it the media will just ignore :) welcome to the Happy New World!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUN72Y2M1UI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMxUdD-Y2aY

[Methmatician]

Censorship is different from spreading misinformation only in the sense that it's a different method, but it sure isn't different in the sense of being any less wrong. It certainly isn't fair-play. And it's not like the international/Western media never downright spreads misinformation either. As for distorting reality, ignoring anti-EU protests also is distorting reality. As such, the international/Western media is far from being an objective, truthfull, honest, sympathetic, morally unquestionable source that it likes to mispresent itself as. Such dishonest media blaming some other media for not being fair-play is downright hilarious. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.
The Western media isn't reporting the the protests/riots. So far all I heard about the protests/riots in Ukraine on Australian media was a 5 second clip of rioters and the reporter saying "And in Ukraine riots and protests against the government" and that's it. Technically the Western media is being more objective because it's simply staying out of it (unlike the repeated coverage of the Syrian war).

Btw, I don't control Western media, and so far I have yet to see them claim outrageous things like that some of the people involved are closet homosexuals. And accusing the West of media bias doesn't make media bias from your own side justified. Russia claims Western media is biased as well, this is just another case of pot calling kettle black.

[Methmatician]

These 'protesters' are nothing more than a bunch of criminals
Well when you outlaw the right to protest then of course protesting will make them criminals :rolleyes:

[YeshAtid]

Well when you outlaw the right to protest then of course protesting will make them criminals :rolleyes:

But we all know Russia and the Ukraine care deeply about human rights :rolleyes:

[DeaththeKid]

Don't know if this is true but:

"1400 Russian troops to handle social unrest in Ukraine"
http://intellihub.com/russian-troops-arriving-in-ukraine-to-battle-protesters/

[Methmatician]

So it's legal and alright to use force if you are a protester in a mob but it is not alright if you are a ruler?
There have been accusations of election rigging against him and protesting is illegal. So what do you suggest they do to enact any sort of change?

[Minesweeper]

There have been accusations of election rigging against him and protesting is illegal. So what do you suggest they do to enact any sort of change?

I don't suggest anything. Those are not peaceful protests anymore and can't be treated as such. What happens in Kiev now is a violent coup with elements of revolution. If I was Ukrainian president, I would defend my position.

[Methmatician]

I don't suggest anything. Those are not peaceful protests anymore and can't be treated as such. What happens in Kiev now is a violent coup with elements of revolution. If I was Ukrainian president, I would defend my position.
And look at it from the citizen's perspective. They protested peacefully in hope that their government would listen, but instead they made protests illegal. Whether they're violent or not the government considers them criminals. If the government takes away your right to protest why would you want that government to continue?

[Minesweeper]

And look at it from the citizen's perspective. They protested peacefully in hope that their government would listen, but instead they made protests illegal. Whether they're violent or not the government considers them criminals. If the government takes away your right to protest why would you want that government to continue?

They protested peacefully for less than 10 days before first clashes with the police and riots started in late November. Anti-protest laws were passed eleven days ago. I agree that situation got worse and unrests culminated after their ratification but it was far from peaceful before.

[Methmatician]

They protested peacefully for less than 10 days before first clashes with the police and riots started in late November. Anti-protest laws were passed eleven days ago. I agree that situation got worse and unrests culminated after their ratification but it was far from peaceful before.

Compared to now the only 'violence' was from overambitious students.

[Trun]

If I was Ukrainian president, I would defend my position.

If I was the Ukrainian president, I'd have resigned as soon as I saw things are out of control. President and PM are elected by the people, if they aren't wanted anymore and this is shown in an expressive way - then they must resign. Otherwise it isn't democracy, it's dictatorship.

[Minesweeper]

Compared to now the only 'violence' was from overambitious students.

Problems were caused by extremist political organizations. Both extreme right and extreme left share the responsibility.


If I was the Ukrainian president, I'd have resigned as soon as I saw things are out of control. President and PM are elected by the people, if they aren't wanted anymore and this is shown in an expressive way - then they must resign. Otherwise it isn't democracy, it's dictatorship.

Ukraine is a country of 44 million people. I don't see how can between 400k and 800k protesters and rioters in Ukraine express the will of entire population?

[Trun]

Ukraine is a country of 44 million people. I don't see how can between 400k and 800k protesters and rioters in Ukraine express the will of entire population?[/FONT]

This sounds like the excuse of our commie PM. How can all the population who is against the government go out and protest?

Just resign, if you have the support of the people who don't protest, you'll be elected again, if you don't, you at least left with honor. It is as simple as that.

[Methmatician]

Problems were caused by extremist political organizations. Both extreme right and extreme left share the responsibility.
It was the government who hired thugs (Titushky) to attack and intimidate protesters before protesting was even illegal. I can't see how a reasonable person can back the Ukrainian government at this point.

[Minesweeper]

This sounds like the excuse of our commie PM. How can all the population who is against the government go out and protest?

Just resign, if you have the support of the people who don't protest, you'll be elected again, if you don't, you at least left with honor. It is as simple as that.

And this is not an excuse? When Milosevic fell, there were more protesters in Belgrade alone than there is in entire Ukraine now. And still, Milosevic got almost 40% of the votes. Ukraine has 44 million people, Serbia has 7 million without Kosovo.

[Trun]

And this is not an excuse? When Milosevic fell, there were more protesters in Belgrade alone than there is in entire Ukraine now. And still, Milosevic got almost 40% of the votes. Ukraine has 44 million people, Serbia has 7 million without Kosovo.

Here goes the second part of what I wrote.

Instead of watching Ukrainian blood being spilled, Yanukovic can just resign and wait for the elections. If more people want him, he will be elected again.

[Minesweeper]

It was the government who hired thugs (Titushky) to attack and intimidate protesters before protesting was even illegal. I can't see how a reasonable person can back the Ukrainian government at this point.

Lots of things happened before protesting was illegal, including attacks on the police and Berkut units. Brave move but what was it's purpose? You proved Yanukovich is not so innocent, that's fine, but other side is not better at all. In such situation, I support government. Just like in Syria.

[Minesweeper]

Here goes the second part of what I wrote.

Instead of watching Ukrainian blood being spilled, Yanukovic can just resign and wait for the elections. If more people want him, he will be elected again.


Why should he resign, why shouldn't the opposition be patient and wait for February 2015 elections? It's Yanukovich who won the last elections, let's wait for his mandate to expire. EU can and will wait. That's real democracy.

If Yanukovich resigns now, opposition takes over and he's politically dead. That's political reality.

[Trun]

If Yanukovich resigns now, opposition takes over and he's politically dead. That's political reality.

Because the Ukrainian people support the opposition, not the Kremlin marrionette.

[Minesweeper]

Because the Ukrainian people support the opposition, not the Kremlin marrionette.

That's only your opinion. Elections will show the truth. Even the minority can organize mass riots.

[Vlach]

They protested peacefully for less than 10 days before first clashes with the police and riots started in late November. Anti-protest laws were passed eleven days ago. I agree that situation got worse and unrests culminated after their ratification but it was far from peaceful before.


With peaceful protests you will dont change anything.

[Loki]

Because the Ukrainian people support the opposition, not the Kremlin marrionette.

No. Only in Western Ukraine. In the east, support for Yanokovic is high, and they would never vote for the idiot boxer.

[Loki]

Instead of watching Ukrainian blood being spilled, Yanukovic can just resign and wait for the elections. If more people want him, he will be elected again.

It's the wrong time for elections. No government in the world would do that immediately within such turmoil.

[Loki]

Ukraine is a country of 44 million people. I don't see how can between 400k and 800k protesters and rioters in Ukraine express the will of entire population?

Plus these 'protesters' are mostly a bunch of thugs, probably paid for and supported financially by the USA.

[sevruk]

It is high time that Ukraine split in two. The Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainians shouldn't have to be forced to be in the same country as the western, butthurt, protesting, Lithuanian-influenced western Ukrainian untermenschen.
:thumb001:

[Trun]

No. Only in Western Ukraine. In the east, support for Yanokovic is high, and they would never vote for the idiot boxer.

Only ethnic Russians support Yanukovic. Ukraine is a country for Ukrainians. If Russians don't like the opinion of the Ukrainians, they are free to leave.

[Loki]

Only ethnic Russians support Yanukovic. Ukraine is a country for Ukrainians. If Russians don't like the opinion of the Ukrainians, they are free to leave.

Erm ... do you know Ukraine's demographics?

[Trun]

Erm ... do you know Ukraine's demographics?

Yes, 80% Ukrainians with a tendency to increase, according to this fertility rate map.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Fertilityrate2011ua.PNG

[Loki]

The opposition had their chance with the Western-backed bleach-blonde Yulia Timoshenko, and she screwed it up nicely. That's why Yanukovic won the last election.

[Loki]

Yes, 80% Ukrainians with a tendency to increase, according to this fertility rate map.


Poor people tend to breed more.

[sevruk]

Only ethnic Russians support Yanukovic. Ukraine is a country for Ukrainians. If Russians don't like the opinion of the Ukrainians, they are free to leave.

Eastern Ukraine is East Ukranian and Russian territory, If Western Ukrainians don't like the opinion of the Russians or East Ukranian, they are free to leave.

Eastern Ukrainians beat Western Ukrainian neo-nutzi

[Vlach]

Eastern Ukraine is East Ukranian and Russian territory, If Western Ukrainians don't like the opinion of the Russians or East Ukranian, they are free to leave.

Eastern Ukrainians beat Western Ukrainian neo-nutzi

Beat at what? LOL, how old are you?

[Trun]

Poor people tend to breed more.

Why are they poorer?

Ukrainians have always been tormented by their "big brother" and intentionally being left without many opportunities.

[sevruk]

Beat at what? LOL, how old are you?

delete your avatar with Russian woman, swarthy gypsy

[Loki]

Why are they poorer?

Ukrainians have always been tormented by their "big brother" and intentionally being left without many opportunities.

Why are Eastern Ukrainians better off? They are also Ukrainians.

[Trun]

Why are Eastern Ukrainians better off? They are also Ukrainians.

Support by Russia.

[Loki]

Support by Russia.

Evidence?

[Vlach]

delete your avatar with Russian woman, swarthy gypsy

I dont have any problems with russians, I have problems with russians policy since 1922.
And you dont have any argument, and saying I'm gypsy, and if I am gypsy that make you more intelligent?

[sevruk]

Why are Eastern Ukrainians better off? They are also Ukrainians.

Just east Ukrainians working while west Ukrainian terrorists protesting 2 months

[sevruk]

I dont have any problems with russians

99% of Russians against Western Ukrainian terrorists

[Vlach]

99% of Russians against Western Ukrainian terrorists

?????
I said I dont have any problems with russians. What the hell is with this naswer?

[Loki]

I dont have any problems with russians, I have problems with russians policy since 1922.
And you dont have any argument, and saying I'm gypsy, and if I am gypsy that make you more intelligent?

You are stuck in the past.

[Loki]

?????
I said I dont have any problems with russians. What the hell is with this naswer?

Then why are you supporting the criminals who are destroying Kiev?

[Trun]

Then why are you supporting the criminals who are destroying Kiev?

Against communists there is only one way to act - with an axe.


99% of Russians against Western Ukrainian terrorists

Since quite a long time, it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[glass]

ur mom is twitch right?
btw anybody can link thread where name changes recorded, i kinda need it

[Vlach]

Then why are you supporting the criminals who are destroying Kiev?

Kiev is in Russia?

[Not a Cop]

\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

What do you want to say with that link?

[Trun]

What do you want to say with that link?

Genocide.

[Not a Cop]

Genocide.

Of who by whom?

[Loki]

Genocide.

The Nazis also committed a genocide on Russian peasants. That is old history now.

[Loki]

Against communists there is only one way to act - with an axe.


What communists?

[sevruk]

Against communists there is only one way to act - with an axe.



Since quite a long time, it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

So?

[Loki]

Kiev is in Russia?

No, it's in Ukraine.

[Trun]

Of who by whom?

By communist rule of Soviet Union, of Ukrainians.


The Nazis also committed a genocide on Russian peasants. That is old history now.

The two things can't be compared. Germany and USSR fought in a war.

[glass]

Kiev is in Russia?
what ukrainians have to do with Kiev? Ukraine is Lviv and surroundings, everything else is russian or steppe terriotories where ukrainians were allowed to live.
it was russians who rebuilt town since 17th centrury when the place of former town was finally free from lithuanian occupants.
Look at Kiev history, Kiev always prosper when russians run city and become shithole when ukrainian "locals" or occupants are in charge

[Trun]

Look at Kiev history, Kiev always prosper when russians run city and become shithole when ukrainian "locals" or occupants are in charge

What about Russian villages where peasants and pigs sleep together?

Only gypsies here live like this.

[Vlach]

No, it's in Ukraine.

Is a rhetorical question :P .

[Loki]

What about Russian villages where peasants and pigs sleep together?

Only gypsies here live like this.

The Russian GDP per capita is higher than that of Bulgaria:

Bulgaria $6,903
Russia $14,247

Source Wikipedia

[Loki]

Is a rhetorical question :P .

I know, I was only teasing you ;)

[Vlach]

what ukrainians have to do with Kiev? Ukraine is Lviv and surroundings, everything else is russian or steppe terriotories where ukrainians were allowed to live.
it was russians who rebuilt town since 17th centrury when the place of former town was finally free from lithuanian occupants.
Look at Kiev history, Kiev always prosper when russians run city and become shithole when ukrainian "locals" or occupants are in charge

And Timisoara the city where I am from, was never a part of Wallachia/ indepdent Transylvania and nowdays is a romanian city. And the russians taked from us Basarabia, N.Bukovina and you gave them to Ukraine...

[glass]

What about Russian villages where peasants and pigs sleep together?

Only gypsies here live like this.
my father was living in Bulgaria 3 years in mid of 1970s, he was engineer assigned to help locals to build social infrastructure
he still calls bulgarians stupid gypsies.
btw country was so poor that more than half of population of your capital did not have a proper shoes, they were using thick wool socks with wood or rubber (advanced version) soles. We can only imagine life bulgarian peasants were enduring in bulgarian villages...

[SKYNET]

The Russian GDP per capita is higher than that of Bulgaria:

Bulgaria $6,903
Russia $14,247

Source Wikipedia






hell yes :D :D a comparison between Russia and a small country like Bulgaria :p

[Loki]

hell yes :D :D a comparison between Russia and a small country like Bulgaria :p

Per capita

[SKYNET]

Per capita



The approximate numbers of both countries

Non EU country Russia: 143,600,000 population ($14,247 dollars)
EU country Bulgaria: 7,364,570 population ($6,903 dollars in euro is €5048.63)


The living standard of Bulgaria doesn't suck at all

[glass]

The approximate numbers of both countries

Non EU country Russia: 143,600,000 population ($14,247 dollars)
EU country Bulgaria: 7,364,570 population ($6,903 dollars in euro is €5048.63)


The living standard of Bulgaria doesn't suck at all
do you know what "per capita" mean?

[sevruk]

do you know what "per capita" mean?

Gypsies do not attend school

[Vlach]

Gypsies do not attend school

We are brainwashed by communists animals from your country

[Szegedist]

And Timisoara the city where I am from, was never a part of Wallachia/ indepdent Transylvania and nowdays is a romanian city. And the russians taked from us Basarabia, N.Bukovina and you gave them to Ukraine...

And the French took Temesvár from Hungary and gave it to romani-ans, thanks to this it became a shithole. Hypocrite!

[Rojava]

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1538707_652449168127832_750387500_n.jpg

[Trun]

The Russian GDP per capita is higher than that of Bulgaria:

Bulgaria $6,903
Russia $14,247

Source Wikipedia

So? Only ten years ago it was quite different. Tides can turn quite fast.


my father was living in Bulgaria 3 years in mid of 1970s, he was engineer assigned to help locals to build social infrastructure
he still calls bulgarians stupid gypsies.
btw country was so poor that more than half of population of your capital did not have a proper shoes, they were using thick wool socks with wood or rubber (advanced version) soles. We can only imagine life bulgarian peasants were enduring in bulgarian villages...

And so what sucker? Half of your population is alcoholics, the other half whores. And least Bulgarians have dignity, not to mention that without Bulgaria Russians today would have still lived in ponds.

By the way, Bulgarians were living like this in the 70s because of the "superior" Soviet commi regime.

[Vlach]

And the French took Temesvár from Hungary and gave it to romani-ans, thanks to this it became a shithole. Hypocrite!

And Austria took Timisoara from ottomans and gave it to bozgors... use your brain stupid inferior guy.

[Vlach]

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1538707_652449168127832_750387500_n.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/GolodomorKharkiv.jpg
:rolleyes:

[IceSwan]

We are brainwashed by communists animals from your country
it sound for me like words of mad fanatic

[Vlach]

it sound for me like words of mad fanatic

The Great Soviet Encyclopedia defines the communist propaganda in an opposition to what is called bourgeois propaganda described as manipulation of the masses in the interests of certain groups, in fact, in the interests of the ruling class. On the contrary, the communist propaganda is defined as a scientifically based system of the dissemination of the communist ("Marxist-Leninist") ideology with the purpose of education, training and organizing of the masses.

[SKYNET]

do you know what "per capita" mean?



Have you ever heard that Russia is Nigeria with snow today?
What about "per capita" doesn't matter, what I know now Russia sucks, Russia gets bogged down in such issues as the terrorism, alcoholism, the low demography etc you should tell me more about the depressive life in Russia, because you know much better than me, even your friendly neighbor Mongolia is the best place to live :p

[SKYNET]

Gypsies do not attend school




oh for fuck's sake, shut up

[Szegedist]

Lool it looks like the Russinas here are getting the taste of Romanian behavior.

Like a famous Russian, Vladimir Zhirinovsky said:

Romania is an artificial state created by Italian Gypsies who stole territory from Russia, Bulgaria and Hungary.

[Vlach]

Lool it looks like the Russinas here are getting the taste of Romanian behavior.

Like a famous Russian, Vladimir Zhirinovsky said:

Can you stop spaming about romanians? I know your universe means Romania and you butthurt, but stop, here we are speaking about Russia/Ukraine/EU, not about Romania or bozgoria.
And if Romania is created by Italian Gypsies territorries stole from Bulgaria and Russia, LOL, I can die in peace. This famous russian is probably a retarded one.

Violent controversies

Zhirinovsky also has a history of igniting personal violence in political contexts. In his notorious debate with Boris Nemtsov in 1995 a "juice fight" broke out.[45] In 2003, Zhirinovsky engaged in a fistfight after a television debate with Mikhail Delyagin.[46] In 2005, Zhirinovsky ignited a brawl in the parliament by spitting at a Rodina party legislator, Andrei Saveliyev.[47] In 2008, he showed himself shooting a rifle at the targets representing his political rivals.[13] During the 2008 televised presidential debate, he threatened Nikolai Gotsa, the representative of Democratic Party of Russia candidate Andrei Bogdanov with violence, saying he's going to "smash his head" and ordering his bodyguard to "shoot that bastard over there in the corridor". Gotsa sued Zhirinovsky in civil court for 1 million rubles (approximately US$38,000) in damages and eventually received a judgment of 30,000 rubles (approximately US$1,150).[48]

=)) You found a inferior monkey like you and now you are happy. HURRAY!

[glass]

So? Only ten years ago it was quite different. Tides can turn quite fast.

Bulgaria was always worse, and if you represent majority of new generation always will be worse


And so what sucker? Half of your population is alcoholics, the other half whores. And least Bulgarians have dignity, not to mention that without Bulgaria Russians today would have still lived in ponds.
i am pretty sure there are more whores outside homeland from your country than from mine. Wanna numbers?

By the way, Bulgarians were living like this in the 70s because of the "superior" Soviet commi regime.
i was pretty clear my father was not soldier, kgb agent or of other status "occupants" can have
he was an engineer, it seems you also missed part about "stupid" locals
Kids like you never had a chance to interact with different foreigners so ican tell you my experience. I was working with partners from south-eastern asia and also had to deal with migrants from central asia. Such experience actually made me racist, because contemporary "educated" individuals from those countries are sons and daughters of illiterate peasants. They lack experience of growing in society with prolonged tradition of education. Despite their education (mostly forgotten) they still remain children of their medieval parents with appropriate mindset. Thus make them stupid according to, for example, russian standards. It is not my invention, many have similar outcome.
It takes time to learn how to interact with people of such background. Bulgaria was a country of stupid people in 1970s, every simple things have to explained etc.
So if it was in 1970s it means you did not have prosperous society in the past, because progress can not happen without education.
i do not want say that bulgarians genetically stupid or subhuman, no. Bulgarians in Bulgaria is result of current sitiation in Bulgaria, If we take random bulgarian out and place him/her to advanced society he/she will have good chance to become modern individual.
Evil russian commies built social infrastructure at russian expence (as gift to "brotherly" nation), established education system in Bulgaria etc etc etc, basically for everything u have in better shape than in a country like Albania you should thank russians.

[glass]

Have you ever heard that Russia is Nigeria with snow today?
What about "per capita" doesn't matter, what I know now Russia sucks, Russia gets bogged down in such issues as the terrorism, alcoholism, the low demography etc you should tell me more about the depressive life in Russia, because you know much better than me, even your friendly neighbor Mongolia is the best place to live :p
problem is numbers do not support your claims,
also it is not russians who crawling streets in europe begging or who smuggling illegal migrants into UK http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111985-Romanian-driver-jailed-in-France-for-trying-to-sneak-almost-FIFTY-Albanians-into-Britain

[Trun]

So if it was in 1970s it means you did not have prosperous society in the past, because progress can not happen without education.
i do not want say that bulgarians geneticall stupid or subhuman, no. Bulgarians in Bulgaria is result of current sitiation in Bulgaria, If we take random bulgarian out and place him/her to advanced society he/she will have good chance to become modern individual.
Evil russian commies built social infrastructure at russian expence (as gift to "brotherly" nation), established education system in Bulgaria etc etc etc, basically for everything u have in better shape than in a country like Albania you should thank russians.

You are completely out of reality, probably you have never interacted with young Bulgarians (or any kind of Bulgarians) :D What a sad case you are, drawing conclusions out of zero experience. But don't worry, cold weather and alcohol are good excuses.

As for Russians building infrastructure in Bulgaria, this is a dumb statement even for a drunk Russian :laugh: Bulgaria was the most developed Balkan country before the Soviet boot stepped in, and even more than some western countries like Ireland and Portugal.

[glass]

You are completely out of reality, probably you have never interacted with young Bulgarians (or any kind of Bulgarians) :D What a sad case you are, drawing conclusions out of zero experience. But don't worry, cold weather and alcohol are good excuses.

i interacted with many bulgarians and from my experience those bulgarians living in UK (or other european countries) are much more sane than those who reside in their homeland. Sad thing is you represent majority of bulgarian youth in Bulgaria quite well, every smart person alrdy left country or trying hard to leave, while people with not so complicated mindset or any capability to think remain there. Butthurt is stronk in bulgarian youth, you know smart and capable person wont blame others for something, such person will try to find opportunities.


Bulgaria was the most developed Balkan country before the Soviet boot stepped in, and even more than some western countries like Ireland and Portugal.
any evidence to prove your point

[SKYNET]

problem is numbers do not support your claims,
also it is not russians who crawling streets in europe begging or who smuggling illegal migrants into UK http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111985-Romanian-driver-jailed-in-France-for-trying-to-sneak-almost-FIFTY-Albanians-into-Britain


but we both know better about russian culture when thousands of tourists visit Turkey and Egypt :laugh: I won't say about russians in Russia. After this you want to say me how Romanians are crawling streets in Europe begging or something else?

[RussiaPrussia]

but we both know better about russian culture when thousands of tourists visit Turkey and Egypt :laugh: I won't say about russians in Russia. After this you want to say me how Romanians are crawling streets in Europe begging or something else?

lol for you tourists = poor ?

there are a lot of western europeans complaining about how russians are taking over their tourist destination, these fucks are mad how others are getting wealthy too.

Most romanian tourists are prostitutes working in brothels. Just admit the truth how the west is exploiting the romanian people.

[RussiaPrussia]

Lool it looks like the Russinas here are getting the taste of Romanian behavior.

Like a famous Russian, Vladimir Zhirinovsky said:

and youre just mongolized slavs

[Szegedist]

and youre just mongolized slavs

Aren't you the asshole who masturbating about his Mongolic N haplogroup or what? HAHahaha retard.

Ps, we are neither Mongols, nor Slavs, nor Mongolized Slavs, while you are a fucked up incest supporting piece of shit.

[SKYNET]

lol for you tourists = poor ?

there are a lot of western europeans complaining about how russians are taking over their tourist destination, these fucks are mad how others are getting wealthy too.

Most romanian tourists are prostitutes working in brothels. Just admit the truth how the west is exploiting the romanian people.




every time when you visit any threads I ask myself who you are? What's your ethnicity? You don't sound like you are russian, you either korean or you are just a retarded troll without ancestry

[RussiaPrussia]

Aren't you the asshole who masturbating about his Mongolic N haplogroup or what? HAHahaha retard.

Ps, we are neither Mongols, nor Slavs, nor Mongolized Slavs, while you are a fucked up incest supporting piece of shit.

So what i am proud of it belong to high iq master race, yet we still kept our languages while youre slavs but speak mongolian language wtf.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-European-admixture.gif

i dont support making children with the same family member, i support giving people a handjob if they cant move from same family members.

[SKYNET]

So what i am proud of it belong to high iq master race






oh dear master race, you've forgotten something






:naughty:



http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2575/barf1f1u8rq.jpg

[Archduke]

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-European-admixture.gif


Lol you can clearly see the Southern borders of Great Bulgaria here.

[IceSwan]

The Great Soviet Encyclopedia defines the communist propaganda in ...

- why this man is always attacking us ?
- barbaric friendliness

come on, Velaxa. dont be a badass. i hope for you


oh for fuck's sake, shut up
lout

[Lemon Kush]

my father was living in Bulgaria 3 years in mid of 1970s, he was engineer assigned to help locals to build social infrastructure
he still calls bulgarians stupid gypsies.
btw country was so poor that more than half of population of your capital did not have a proper shoes, they were using thick wool socks with wood or rubber (advanced version) soles. We can only imagine life bulgarian peasants were enduring in bulgarian villages...

In the 1970's it was alot better. The situation in Bulgaria is even worse now. xD

[Shkembe Chorba]

God save Ukraine.

http://www.ucc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/holodomor-events.jpg

[Minesweeper]

God save Ukraine.


EU is deity now? xD

[Methmatician]

EU is deity now? xD
The EU can't save Ukraine, so no.

[Wadaad]

pm offered to resign...any updates? All these protests follow the same timeline more or less

[Vlach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrl6Uw--nYc

Fuck the police, die in hell animals.

[Jackson]

I think the army refuse to do that, we need statesmen and real diplomacy, not shooting and escalation, to solve this.

Finnish foreign minister, he is clown but in this he is right, said that a planned EU and Russia meeting was trashed by the EU leaders without notifing the EU member states.
This is serious and shows the extent of the threat EU is to security and democracy in Europe.
Finnish interest is a peaceful solution to this crisis, EU is taking this towards a total train wreck.

True, always take arguments to the table before you take them to the field. This is creating a pretty dangerous situation for Ukraine, and perhaps for the EU and Russia too. If they did indeed refuse to hold diplomatic meetings, that is pretty immature of them. Ukraine seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place, hopefully they'll not get the raw end of the deal out of all this, if anything more happens.

[Jackson]

And look at it from the citizen's perspective. They protested peacefully in hope that their government would listen, but instead they made protests illegal. Whether they're violent or not the government considers them criminals. If the government takes away your right to protest why would you want that government to continue?

I guess in the end who is in the moral right or wrong becomes irrelevant until it's over, and in the meantime what matters is what side you support (if any).

[Rojava]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/GolodomorKharkiv.jpg
:rolleyes:

Fuck Stalin. He was a fake Communist that has ruined the good name of Lenin.

[Vlach]

Fuck Stalin. He was a fake Communist that has ruined the good name of Lenin.

For you is easy to be a communist and to say fuck Stalin, but these bitches destroyed my country, my family...

[Vlach]

Some news from Ukraine?

[Szegedist]

I hope that Ukraine disintegrates.

[DeaththeKid]

I hope that Ukraine disintegrates.

Yeah Hungary deserves Uzhhorod back.

[Szegedist]

Yeah Hungary deserves Uzhhorod back.

Ungvár, Beregszász, Munkács :thumb001:

[Shkembe Chorba]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfYF3ibCEAIY2D4.jpg

[Vlach]

Ungvár, Beregszász, Munkács :thumb001:

That means we deserves N Bukovina, N Maramures?
And why your eyes are edit in paint?

[DeaththeKid]

Ukraine military may move against protesters: opposition

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-slams-opposition-taking-sick-leave-210632716.html

[glass]

Ukraine military may move against protesters:
about time
Streets of Kiev should have been cleared from bandits long ago

[Ultra]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfYF3ibCEAIY2D4.jpg
lol, got any sources for these claims?

[Drawing-slim]

Peace loving civilized Europeans are tired of Russians and Serbs, clearly.

[Ultra]

Ukraine military may move against protesters: opposition

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-slams-opposition-taking-sick-leave-210632716.html
That's also from some unreliable source.. :rolleyes:


I'm sure police got enough AKs to shoot at the protesters themselves. Not that I expect this to happen anyhow.

[Rojava]

For you is easy to be a communist and to say fuck Stalin, but these bitches destroyed my country, my family...

I don't judge ideologies on what the people have done, but what the ideology wants. And that ideology, Communism, wanted something completely different to Stalin.

"Socialists", such as Saddam, did the same thing to my family. But Socialism teaches something completely different to what Saddam wanted.

Just like Islam does not teach for people to blow themselves up in the name of God. Al Qaeda and the majority of the Islamic world have interpreted Islam in the wrong way.

[glass]

Peace loving civilized Europeans are tired of Russians and Serbs, clearly.
this is so called Commandant of Maidan
http://s30.postimg.org/qk7dlkx1t/138706067312.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Rojava]

Besides, Ukraine isn't even Communist anymore.