Ukraine at a Boil

[DeaththeKid]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/eric-margolis/partition-ukraine/

Personally I would prefer if the whole of Ukraine joined Russia :cool:

[DeaththeKid]

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/worldisnotenough/2014/01/25/breaking-up-ukraine/

"In the years before the unravelling of the Soviet empire, there was a lot of discussion about whether or not Ukraine would really want independence. Many people regarded the ethnic difference between Russians and Ukrainians as minor – comparable, for example, to the English and the Scots – and assumed that the independence movement would peter out once the grievance of communism was removed. (This was, of course, also the predominant Russian view.)"

[Kiyant]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/eric-margolis/partition-ukraine/

Personally I would prefer if the whole of Ukraine joined Russia :cool:

Whole Ukraine would bring lots of trouble and can even mutate to a civil war/rebellion in the western parts of ukraine

[DeaththeKid]

Whole Ukraine would bring lots of trouble and can even mutate to a civil war/rebellion in the western parts of ukraine

Russia knows how to handle rebellion :cool:

Anyway blame Poland for helping create Ukrainian nationalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism

[Kiyant]

Russia knows how to handle rebellion :cool:

Anyway blame Poland for helping create Ukrainian nationalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism

First Ukrainians arnt Russian so its their "right" to not want to be a part of Russia only the east (Russian majority) has the right

[DeaththeKid]

First Ukrainians arnt Russian so its their "right" to not want to be a part of Russia only the east (Russian majority) has the right

Depends whether you think Ukrainians are simply a regional variant of Russians or an entirely different ethnic group.

[Yaroslav]

Yanukovych should bring in the tanks and end this pro-NWO, pro-Antichrist Maidan. Coming from a Galician (western) Ukrainian.

[Kiyant]

Depends whether you think Ukrainians are simply a regional variant of Russians or an entirely different ethnic group.

Well if Azeris are a different ethnic group then Ukrainians can also be one

[Yaroslav]

Russian and Ukrainian languages are not mutually intelligible. Hence Ukrainians are a different ethnicity, but 500 years ago we were one.

[DeaththeKid]

Well if Azeris are a different ethnic group then Ukrainians can also be one

Azeri's are far more different from Russians then Ukrainians are.

[Kiyant]

Azeri's are far more different from Russians then Ukrainians are.

Sorry i meant Azeris and Turks.
If Azeris and Turks can be a different ethnicy then Ukrainians and Russians also can be a different ethnicy

[DeaththeKid]

Russian and Ukrainian languages are not mutually intelligible. Hence Ukrainians are a different ethnicity, but 500 years ago we were one.

Interesting perspective. I was under the impression that they were intelligible? But even if they aren't that is not necessarily a barrier to being one country. I mean many German dialects are unintelligible with each other yet Germany exists. And also Russia is a federation with many regional identities so Ukrainians can maintain their identity if they join. Kind of like Wales has a national identity even if it is part of the UK. But I guess that is a choice for the Ukrainian people to make.

[DeaththeKid]

Sorry i meant Azeris and Turks.
If Azeris and Turks can be a different ethnicy then Ukrainians and Russians also can be a different ethnicy

Well there are high mountains acting as a natural barrier between Azeri lands and Turkey. However there is none between Russia and Ukraine.

[Yaroslav]

Interesting perspective. I was under the impression that they were intelligible? But even if they aren't that is not necessarily a barrier to being one country. I mean many German dialects are unintelligible with each other yet Germany exists. And also Russia is a federation with many regional identities so Ukrainians can maintain their identity if they join. Kind of like Wales has a national identity even if it is part of the UK. But I guess that is a choice for the Ukrainian people to make.

I agree. But most Ukrainians are brainwashed by Western-sponsored nationalism.