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Mehmet
01-25-2014, 10:00 PM
That's how France licks what she spat.
See the morons.

Kemalist, secular Turkey was the dog of France.
But Kemalist Turkey is over.

Imams took the control and they are building a world power.

The effects:



French President François Hollande is set to embark on a landmark visit to Turkey, becoming the first Gallic head of state to make a formal trip to the country in 22 years for a visit designed to repair the nations’ frayed ties.

Paris appears set on putting relations back on track and tapping Turkey’s economic potential, as the visit will feature the signing of a number of agreements on cooperation in various fields.

The visit comes after difficult years in bilateral ties under the presidency of Hollande’s predecessor, Nicolas Sarkozy, whose strong views against Turkey’s bid for European Union membership strained relations between the two capitals.

Although Turkey excluded French companies from giant projects whenever possible, economic relations were not seriously affected, as France remained one of the biggest investors in Turkey. But France – currently the sixth biggest investor in Turkey – would like to make full use of the economic potential it sees in Turkey.

France’s interests include energy, infrastructure and transportation, with a special focus on air travel and railways. Turkish Airlines is one of the important most important clients for Airbus, while a Japanese-French alliance led by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and France’s Areva will build Turkey’s second nuclear power plant. The growth of the Turkish middle class also appears to have raised the appetite of the French business community, as there is increasing interest in the agriculture and health sectors.

In order to improve the political climate with Ankara to clear the way for increased economic cooperation, Hollande will try to dispel the image that France is blocking Turkey’s EU accession.

Paris believes that the approach endorsed by Sarkozy, who blocked entry talks on five chapters, has not proved effective and that maintaining a dialogue between Turkey and the EU will ensure that the union can continue to encourage a continuation of reforms.

Despite the optimism, there are question marks among opinion makers in Paris about the timing of the visit, as the Turkish government is under criticism for what is perceived as undemocratic steps to cover up corruption charges.

Ultimately, the talks seem likely to continue on from Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s discussions in Brussels this past week, with Hollande expected to again urge respect for the rule of law and the democratic separation of powers.

Hollande is expected to endorse German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s maxim to remain loyal to prior commitments to the EU. As elections for the European Parliament approach, the Élysée Palace has given the message to Turkey skeptics in France that the process will be very long and open-ended and that the decision will ultimately be made by the citizens of Turkey and Europe – an indication that there will be referenda prior to Turkey’s entry.

While France has already made a gesture by lifting its veto on one of the accession chapters last November, it remains unclear whether Hollande’s messages will convince Ankara, since Paris has put the ball in the EU’s court in terms of the remaining chapters.

Sarkozy had blocked talks on economic and monetary policy, agriculture and rural development, regional policy and coordination of structural instruments, institutions and financial and budgetary provisions. France lifted its veto talks on the regional policy chapter last year, while the blockage on agriculture and rural development stems not only from France but also from a European Commission decision made in reaction to Turkey’s refusal to allow Greek Cypriot ships to use its ports.

Developments in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Cyprus will be the main items on the agenda as Hollande will hold separate talks with President Abdullah Gül and Erdoğan. Hollande will also meet Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, the head of the main opposition party Republican People’s Party (CHP).

The Armenian question will also be raised during the talks ahead of the Armenian community’s efforts to commemorate the centenary of what they and many others around the world term a genocide, the World War I-era mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.

Hollande and his ministers could also raise the case of Pınar Selek, a 41-year-old academic who, despite being cleared three times of complicity in a 1998 explosion in Istanbul, was sentenced to life imprisonment by a Turkish court in January 2013. Representatives of French civil society have called on Hollande to raise the subject during his visit. Selek is currently living in exile in France.

After holding talks in Ankara, Hollande will go to Istanbul to deliver a speech at Galatasaray University. Accompanied by French business leaders, he will participate together with Gül in an economic forum during which he will also meet members of the Turkish business community, as Paris is interested in seeing more Turkish investment in France.

Seven ministers will be accompanying Hollande, including Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius; External Commerce Minister Nicole Bricq; Industry Minister Arnaud Montebourg; Ecology, Sustainable Development and Energy Minister Phillipe Martin; Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian; Higher Education Minister Geneviève Fioraso and Agriculture and Forestry Minister Stéphane le Foll.




Mr Hollande still thinks Turkey is somewhat striving for EU. He needs updates.
His propaganda for "Armenian" stuff, Chp and Pinar Selek are comedies. As if Turkey will take seriously his requirements.

Anatolian Eagle
01-25-2014, 11:47 PM
Kemalist, secular Turkey was the dog of France.
But Kemalist Turkey is over.

Imams took the control and they are building a world power.

What a fucking joke. It's the exact opposite.

Tell that to those fucking imams which licked boots of the British, French or what else in aftermath of WWI, going as far as fighting the Turkish revolutionaries in favour of them. They are or were the dogs or rats, they have never brought any good to Turkey, nor they still do. Traitorous scum.

The people which you despise, are the ones which liberated this country despite the ones you praise fought against them for sake of foreign powers. Never forget that.

Hayalet
01-26-2014, 04:21 AM
Don't mind Mehmet, he proved time and again that he is retarded.

Mehmet
01-26-2014, 08:50 AM
:) Yeah I'm so retarded guys.
Kemalist Turkey wasn't licking the ball of Frenchmen at all.

That's why the big boss made the funniest revolution in mankind's history, the "hat revolution". Turkey had spent all its money to Italian-style hats when the nation needed industrial, infrastructural investments...

You also try to pose the English spy as a hero. It's now a myth.

You are fucking ignorants

Loki
01-26-2014, 09:10 AM
Mehmet, the article is good but your comments are outrageous.

Hayalet
01-26-2014, 09:20 AM
That's why the big boss made the funniest revolution in mankind's history, the "hat revolution". Turkey had spent all its money to Italian-style hats when the nation needed industrial, infrastructural investments...
Yes, Turkey bought hats at the expense of industry and infrastructure, because the cost of either was the same. :lol:

Retard.

RandoBloom
01-26-2014, 09:22 AM
Wow France. Really? I think that the things I spoke of came to be. Turkey is, after being blocked from entering EU sick and tired of such behaviour and wont beg for it. Its EU that can gain, not the other way around. And even he says that no longer blocking ascension into EU is nothing more than an effort to force Turkey to do what they want it to do.

Mehmet
01-26-2014, 09:23 AM
They paid lots of money for the Italian-style hats, sold by Jewish merchants.
Read Riza Nur. He even gives the prices in Swiss Franks.

People were poor, the army was 'naked'.

What the big boss did?
He spent the money importing hats from Europe, to build factories to increase the alcohol production, etc..

RandoBloom
01-26-2014, 09:24 AM
What a fucking joke. It's the exact opposite.

Tell that to those fucking imams which licked boots of the British, French or what else in aftermath of WWI, going as far as fighting the Turkish revolutionaries in favour of them. They are or were the dogs or rats, they have never brought any good to Turkey, nor they still do. Traitorous scum.

The people which you despise, are the ones which liberated this country despite the ones you praise fought against them for sake of foreign powers. Never forget that.

Oh really? Ataturk told his soldiers as he recruited them that Imams are bad, Islam is bad and Caliphate will be outlawed by him? I wold like to see how many soldiers he would gather then :laugh:

Hayalet
01-26-2014, 09:35 AM
They paid lots of money for the Italian-style hats, sold by Jewish merchants.
Read Riza Nur. He even gives the prices in Swiss Franks.

People were poor, the army was 'naked'.

What the big boss did?
He spent the money importing hats from Europe, to build factories to increase the alcohol production, etc..
Kemalists started the first real industry plan (that subsituted imports) in Turkey in the 1930s. In late Ottoman era, it was cheaper to import grains to Istanbul from South America than from Anatolia. If anything, it was the Ottoman government that licked the balls of the French with their trade as well as coastwise shipping capitulations, both of which were revoked by Kemalists. You are a typical single-digit IQ Islamist.

Mehmet
01-26-2014, 09:55 AM
1930's?
Good.

Actually, 1920's were spent to increase alcohol consumption, import western-style hats, implementing secularism, having Turkish women dressed like French ones. Lots of money were spent. Everyday they organized party in çankaya, with the tax income paid by the poor people.

Hayalet you also know the truth. But your bestial instincts make you support Kemalism; as you are an Alevi.

Hayalet
01-26-2014, 10:35 AM
1930's? Good. Actually, 1920's were spent to increase alcohol consumption, import western-style hats, implementing secularism, having Turkish women dressed like French ones. Lots of money were spent. Everyday they organized party in çankaya, with the tax income paid by the poor people.
No, those decribe 1930s better than 1920s, and they don't really have anything to do with the economy.


Hayalet you also know the truth. But your bestial instincts make you support Kemalism; as you are an Alevi.
I don't have religious faith, but my background is Sunni.

Mehmet
01-26-2014, 10:39 AM
If you are Sunni, then I'm Negro.
When I had told Azeris need to drop their sect and turn Sunni, you had been quite offended.
Except few Balkan immigrants, Alevis are the only Kemalists left in Turkey. And there's a reason for it.

Hayalet
01-26-2014, 10:49 AM
When I had told Azeris need to drop their sect and turn Sunni, you had been quite offended.
I don't remember, but that kind of medieval mentality is indeed offensive.


Except few Balkan immigrants, Alevis are the only Kemalists left in Turkey.
You are just clueless.

Anatolian Eagle
01-26-2014, 11:10 AM
Oh really? Ataturk told his soldiers as he recruited them that Imams are bad, Islam is bad and Caliphate will be outlawed by him? I wold like to see how many soldiers he would gather then :laugh:

You're clueless. Majority of the people supported him, because they already were felt betrayed by those you mention above in aftermath of WWI, otherwise all these reforms would be impossible. Not to mention, they also had their own army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuva-yi_Inzibatiye) fighting against them. So I'm pretty sure they were aware of who the enemy was.

RandoBloom
01-26-2014, 11:26 AM
You're clueless. Majority of the people supported him, because they already were felt betrayed by those you mention above in aftermath of WWI, otherwise all these reforms would be impossible. Not to mention, they also had their own army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuva-yi_Inzibatiye) fighting against them. So I'm pretty sure they were aware of who the enemy was.

Majority of people suported him because they felt peace treaty as injustice and because they didnt want "infidels" to rule them.
They fought as much for islam as they did for justice. They didnt fight for secularism or dissolution of Caliphate. If they knew none would suport the Ataturk.
Even Ataturk claimed that he was just a servant of Sultan and that Sultan is forced to sign or do certain things and that he will free him. That is his talk before power. After power he steped on everything he said.