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GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 04:57 PM
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Please bear mixed race phenotype in your mind b4 voting

InperatoreBT
01-28-2014, 04:59 PM
More like Mexican.

Prisoner Of Ice
01-28-2014, 05:00 PM
Anyone can pass for african american unless they are lily white.

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:02 PM
Anyone can pass for african american unless they are lily white.

not true.
I hope you meant anyone with with some African in their blood (not South/East Asians)

African Americans tend to have 60-100% African genes, with majority of population having 80-85%

dude
01-28-2014, 05:03 PM
Of course he does. why would he not?

Siberyak
01-28-2014, 05:09 PM
yes, easily

madridi4verrr
01-28-2014, 05:16 PM
I don't think so , he's clearly very mixed

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 05:19 PM
Ofcourse he does, European admixture does not exclude someone from being AfAm.

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:22 PM
Ofcourse he does, European admixture does not exclude someone from being AfAm.

He looks very different from most Aframs.

He has rights to identify both African and European parts, but he doesn't look neither of them => clear mixed look

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 05:22 PM
He looks very different from most Aframs.

He has rights to identify both African and European parts, but he doesn't look neither of them => clear mixed look
You sir are an idiot.

dude
01-28-2014, 05:26 PM
He looks very different from most Aframs.

He has rights to identify both African and European parts, but he doesn't look neither of them => clear mixed look
He is clearly mulatto. Don't you know many Aframs are mulatto. White America would not consider him white, however, Afram would accept him. For instance Obama, he is mulatto and identified as Afram, in fact white republicans are his worst enemies. Why do you think that is? I'll tell you it is not because one of his parents is white.

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:28 PM
You sir are an idiot.

It seems you simply believe most half Euro half Afram look Afram only.
I believe some (minority) of them do look mixed (not Afram).

Siberyak
01-28-2014, 05:28 PM
I don't think also , he's clearly very mixed

There are many, many Afro americans that look like that man. In case you don't know most afro americans are obviously not as dark as sub Saharan africans

Nehellenia
01-28-2014, 05:33 PM
Lenny Kravitz has a Russian-Ashkenazi father and a Bahamian/African American mother, clearly he shares no similarity to his father's looks at all and is clearly African American and just because his skin tone is lighter, so what :) it shouldn't be a question of race just because someone is mixed.

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 05:33 PM
It seems you simply believe most half Euro half Afram look Afram only.
I believe some (minority) of them do look mixed (not Afram).

AFRICAN AMERICAN IS AN ETHNICTY NOT A RACE

IT EMCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF PHENOTYPES FROM WHITE LOOKING TO BLACK LOOKING TO NATIVE AMERICAN LOOKING PEOPLE'S

IT IS THE RESULT OF ONE DROP LAWS AND THE RESULTING INTRA-GROUP COUPLINGS OF ADMIXED PEOPLE

THEREFORE ALL MIXED RACE BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE CAN VERY WELL FIT AS AFRICAN AMERICAN.

Dumbass.

madridi4verrr
01-28-2014, 05:40 PM
There are many, many Afro americans that look like that man. In case you don't know most afro americans are obviously not as dark as sub Saharan africans

Are mixed race people in the US classified as afro americans or mixed race ?

Methusalem
01-28-2014, 05:44 PM
He looks white mulatto, which means he could pass in Iberia.

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:45 PM
Are mixed race people in the US classified as afro americans or mixed race ?

They are perceived as Afram, but some of them don't look Black

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:47 PM
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I knew that ridiculous sh*t.

I am talking about how he looks, it means phenotype (more like race) not cultural-ethnicity.

GrebluBro
01-28-2014, 05:54 PM
Lenny Kravitz has a Russian-Ashkenazi father and a Bahamian/African American mother, clearly he shares no similarity to his father's looks at all and is clearly African American and just because his skin tone is lighter, so what :) it shouldn't be a question of race just because someone is mixed.

not sharing enough similarity with his mom.
not only his skin is lighter (not much actually), but also his features are not African enough (comparing to Afram).

He himself said he looks in the middle of his parents race/ethnicity.

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 05:59 PM
I knew that ridiculous sh*t.

I am talking about how he looks, it means phenotype (more like race) not cultural-ethnicity.

He can easily be placed in a multitude of African American settings and completely pass; hell the average Euro Admixture for Black Americans in the PNW is 40%.

To try and say AfrAms look a particular way is ignoring the 50+ African Ethnic groups, 7 major European groups, and some 20 Native American groups that make up their ancestors. Its absolutely foolish.

blklady2013
01-28-2014, 08:16 PM
The scruff and the fro. Thank you Lenny so hot.

Anyhoo, he'd totally pass as Afram. I've known lighter to pass whether it's accurate or not.

NORWORLD
01-28-2014, 08:27 PM
Weird/troll topic. The term African American means anyone with visible/traceable African ancestry so of course he could pass!

NORWORLD
01-28-2014, 08:29 PM
He can easily be placed in a multitude of African American settings and completely pass; hell the average Euro Admixture for Black Americans in the PNW is 40%.

Isn't the average euro admixture more like 20-25%?

blklady2013
01-28-2014, 08:34 PM
Isn't the average euro admixture more like 20-25%?

No. At least I don't think so. I think it's more like 12%-20% depending on the area in the U.S. For instance many in lowcountry areas in the South have less admixture than in places like Louisiana. There was a study on this I posted a while back...i think.
Don't quote me. Lol!

Smeagol
01-28-2014, 08:35 PM
Yes...

TBZA
01-28-2014, 08:36 PM
Yes, he can pass for an Afram very easily

Weedman
01-28-2014, 08:40 PM
I don't think so , he's clearly very mixed
he looks very typical for an African American
MOST are mixed to some degree or another


the more important question would be, could he pass as a jew?
have you seen his father! ????

LOL

NORWORLD
01-28-2014, 08:43 PM
Yes, I know. I was talking about America as a whole. I've read that the Gullah People of South Carolina have only 4% euro on average :)

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 08:45 PM
Isn't the average euro admixture more like 20-25%?

It varies dramatically by region Gullahs and African American Canadians in Nova Scotia for example or Low income Nashville to historically Upper Class New England African Americans will vary dramatically.

We are not a homogenous group, its disingenuous to rely on a nationwide average.

NORWORLD
01-28-2014, 08:47 PM
It varies dramatically by region Gullahs and African American Canadians in Nova Scotia for example or Low income Nashville to historically Upper Class New England African Americans will vary dramatically.

We are not a homogenous group, its disingenuous to rely on a nationwide average.


Yes, I know that there are regional differences. BTW I mentioned the Gullah people in my last post...

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 08:47 PM
As time goes on and more AfrAms get tested we will come to realize AfrAms are basically a composite of a dozen or so major populations with different Euro/Afro/New World components who after the 19th century began intermarrying and migrating.

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 08:48 PM
Yes, I know that there are regional differences. BTW I mentioned the Gullah People in my last post...

I hadn't seen it by the time I posted

SardiniaAtlantis
01-28-2014, 08:50 PM
He IS African American. The African American label befalls anyone of any percentage with SSA that is American and choses to Identify as such.

NORWORLD
01-28-2014, 08:53 PM
As time goes on and more AfrAms get tested we will come to realize AfrAms are basically a composite of a dozen or so major populations with different Euro/Afro/New World components who after the 19th century began intermarrying and migrating.

Sure. BTW Rick Kittles at the African Ancestry DNA testing company said that out of the thousands of African Americans they've tested so far no results have come back fully African.

KidMulat
01-28-2014, 08:58 PM
Sure. BTW Rick Kittles at the African Ancestry DNA testing company said that out of the thousands of African Americans they've tested so far no results have come back fully African.

100 years ago it'd be different but I imagine once they get some poor deep southerners they will find it. I am one to believe most of the "Gullah" tested so far are just Geechees.

Carlito's Way
01-28-2014, 10:33 PM
yeah he does, isnt he african american???? :confused: