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JQP4545
01-28-2014, 08:30 PM
Or does this person who is German, Irish and French Canadian have African ancestry? Dodecad Africa9:

Population
Europe 68.17%
NW_Africa 5.70%
SW_Asia 25.31%
E_Africa -
S_Africa 0.54%
Mbuti -
W_Africa -
Biaka -
San 0.28%

Prisoner Of Ice
01-28-2014, 08:33 PM
I'm sure 5% is not noise.

Even the people with tiny fragments might not be noise but from a tiny fragment you can't tell your percentage of ancestry, nor is it something that will affect you much (if any).

SardiniaAtlantis
01-28-2014, 08:33 PM
No It is certainly not noise.
You have a little African there.

Gaston
01-28-2014, 08:35 PM
French Canadians are the most likely to get African ancestry.

This test is for African and West Eurasian-African hybrids. It doesn't work very well with pred-Euro people unless the African ancestry is significant enough. 0.82% can be real or noise. But I've seen Northeast Europeans getting above 1% African so it's more likely noise in this case.

Ibericus
01-28-2014, 08:35 PM
Take in account this calculator was designed for African people, not Eurasians, so it might be a bit off for you

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 08:42 PM
23andMe split view says I inherited .4% West African from my mom, but her ancestry composition says she has .1%, LOL. So that's why I ask this. Here is dodecad v3:

Population
East_European 10.98%
West_European 48.38%
Mediterranean 29.28%
Neo_African 0.11%
West_Asian 9.66%
South_Asian 0.89%
Northeast_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.17%
Northwest_African 0.53%
Palaeo_African -

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 08:43 PM
French Canadians are the most likely to get African ancestry.

This test is for African and West Eurasian-African hybrids. It doesn't work very well with pred-Euro people unless the African ancestry is significant enough. 0.82% can be real or noise. But I've seen Northeast Europeans getting above 1% African so it's more likely noise in this case.

Why French Canadians?

Caismeachd
01-28-2014, 08:45 PM
23andMe split view says I inherited .4% West African from my mom, but her ancestry composition says she has .1%, LOL. So that's why I ask this. Here is dodecad v3:

Population
East_European 10.98%
West_European 48.38%
Mediterranean 29.28%
Neo_African 0.11%
West_Asian 9.66%
South_Asian 0.89%
Northeast_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.17%
Northwest_African 0.53%
Palaeo_African -


Hmm on 23andme you are just related to more people with partial African ancestry than your mom I suppose and that's why it gives a paradoxical value for you.

Graham
01-28-2014, 08:46 PM
Take in account this calculator was designed for African people, not Eurasians, so it might be a bit off for you

Yes, ignore everything from that calculator. It's only useful for Africans.

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 08:50 PM
World 9

Gaston
01-28-2014, 08:52 PM
Why French Canadians?

Historically more open to mixing and the culture is different. I shared with a few of them and all had non-euro ancestry like North African, Native American and SSA.
North African was bigger than the two others most of the time.

Proctor
01-28-2014, 08:53 PM
French Canadians are the most likely to get African ancestry.

This test is for African and West Eurasian-African hybrids. It doesn't work very well with pred-Euro people unless the African ancestry is significant enough. 0.82% can be real or noise. But I've seen Northeast Europeans getting above 1% African so it's more likely noise in this case.

Why are French Canadians the most likely to get African ancestry?

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 08:54 PM
Historically more open to mixing and the culture is different. I shared with a few of them and all had non-euro ancestry like North African, Native American and SSA.
North African was bigger than the two others most of the time.

Interesting. My French Canadian ancestors were quite tan. Where would the North African admixture come from though? Aren't French Canadians from France?

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 09:41 PM
Historically more open to mixing and the culture is different. I shared with a few of them and all had non-euro ancestry like North African, Native American and SSA.
North African was bigger than the two others most of the time.

How about South Asians or Pacific Islanders? Here is the Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 45.03%
Baltic 21.28%
West_Med 16.79%
West_Asian 6.23%
East_Med 8.05%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.00%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.62%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Loki
01-28-2014, 09:47 PM
23andMe split view says I inherited .4% West African from my mom, but her ancestry composition says she has .1%, LOL. So that's why I ask this. Here is dodecad v3:

Population
East_European 10.98%
West_European 48.38%
Mediterranean 29.28%
Neo_African 0.11%
West_Asian 9.66%
South_Asian 0.89%
Northeast_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.17%
Northwest_African 0.53%
Palaeo_African -

It's not noise.

Weedman
01-28-2014, 09:53 PM
No It is certainly not noise.
You have a little African there.
2Med is right
its not noise, you're a black boy so go back to Africa and stop blaming us REAL White people for you're bullshit!
LOL!

remember, here in this part of the world, the one drop rule applies, LOL


jk, btw

Anglojew
01-28-2014, 09:56 PM
No, what you have there is a mulatto but I'm sure they can "pass" as white.

Weedman
01-28-2014, 09:56 PM
It's not noise.
it's not noise

its music to his ears since he "wants" to be black anyway

the only reason he took the test is to try to see how much Native American ancestry he had so he could try to become an official member of a tribe
now he found he has African-American ancestry and he is thrilled about it because he thinks it makes him "cool" to be a minority

LOL!


jk

"kill white folks and get paid for it? what's not to like"-JQP4545

lol

Weedman
01-28-2014, 10:01 PM
Aren't French Canadians from France? they're from Canada..duh!

LOL

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 10:01 PM
it's not noise

its music to his ears since he "wants" to be black anyway

the only reason he took the test is to try to see how much Native American ancestry he had so he could try to become an official member of a tribe
now he found he has African-American ancestry and he is thrilled about it because he thinks it makes him "cool" to be a minority

LOL!


jk

"kill white folks and get paid for it? what's not to like"-JQP4545

lol

You guys are creepy, honestly. Do you read all my posts or something?

JQP4545
01-28-2014, 10:04 PM
No, what you have there is a mulatto but I'm sure they can "pass" as white.

I'm just trying to learn more about my ancestry. I understand that I am white, but I am interested in seeing how my ancestors were connected to history. It would be fascinating to have ancestors from all continents.

Weedman
01-28-2014, 10:07 PM
You guys are creepy, honestly. Do you read all my posts or something?

nah, just bored and trolling for a minute

, LOL

wasnt being serious

Weedman
01-28-2014, 10:09 PM
It would be fascinating to have ancestors from all continents.
no it wouldnt

only from Europe

lol

Anglojew
01-28-2014, 10:10 PM
I'm just trying to learn more about my ancestry. I understand that I am white, but I am interested in seeing how my ancestors were connected to history. It would be fascinating to have ancestors from all continents.

I was only joking. I think it's a very small amount probably some distant ancestry.

Nehellenia
01-29-2014, 04:55 AM
There's a link claiming some French Canadians could very well of had Sephardi ancestors, through crypto-jews who moved to France after the Spanish Inquisition, many jews immigrated to Poitou, which is the main source of French provincial ancestry for many Quebecois. Some French Canadians genetically carry diseases and disorders commonly found in Jewish genetic groups and it is unusual how it managed to get into their population.

Hevo
01-29-2014, 12:47 PM
What are your eurogenes K13/Eutest v2 scores?

JQP4545
01-31-2014, 07:01 PM
K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 45.03%
Baltic 21.28%
West_Med 16.79%
West_Asian 6.23%
East_Med 8.05%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.00%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.62%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

JQP4545
01-31-2014, 07:03 PM
V2:

Population
North_Sea 29.95%
Atlantic 27.05%
Baltic 7.83%
Eastern_Euro 10.97%
West_Med 12.63%
West_Asian 4.56%
East_Med 5.59%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.07%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.36%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

JQP4545
01-31-2014, 07:06 PM
What are your eurogenes K13/Eutest v2 scores?

^^^There are the scores.

Hevo
01-31-2014, 07:07 PM
^^^There are the scores.

Hmm, no sign of African at all. Yeah i think it's probably noise.

DanielJ1eH
02-05-2014, 05:46 AM
NW_Africa is Caucasoid. Not Saharan/West African. They could have Ashkenazi Jewish or Berber admixture.

I have it as well. 4.79% NW_African on the Dodecad K9b. It could be Berber or from Ashkenazic Jews, like I mentioned.

I scored 7 point something on Ashkenazic Admixture on another calculator.