Leliana appreciation thread

[Drawing-slim]

Yup. A much deserving thread.
Even though I'm not religious in anyway, even-though leliana will feel the need to totally destroy me because I've come to like the Muhammad religion, I still value leliana.

As I see this forum with lots of degenerate minded westerners with all kinds of discussing posts and what not, I like leliana because she remains cute sexy stylish and very hardcore conservative westerner at the same time.
She never talks about creepy sexual subjects manages to remain kinda sexy.
Again, even though I've started to be more appreciative towards the teachings of Islam and good moderate Muslim individuals, leliana remains a breath of fresh air on westernized moral characters here. A bit crazy but cute nonetheless.

Go ahead and give your opinions on leliana.

[rhiannon]

I like her. Respect her honesty and principles whether I agree or disagree.

[Drawing-slim]

I think leliana should join me and start respecting Muhammad's teachings.

[Kastrioti1443]

Yup. A much deserving thread.
Even though I'm not religious in anyway, even-though leliana will feel the need to totally destroy me because I've come to like the Muhammad religion, I still value leliana.

As I see this forum with lots of degenerate minded westerners with all kinds of discussing posts and what not, I like leliana because she remains cute sexy stylish and very hardcore conservative westerner at the same time.
She never talks about creepy sexual subjects manages to remain kinda sexy.
Again, even though I've started to be more appreciative towards the teachings of Islam and good moderate Muslim individuals, leliana remains a breath of fresh air on westernized moral characters here. A bit crazy but cute nonetheless.

Go ahead and give your opinions on leliana.

In what you like the muhamedan religion???

[Loki]

I like Leliana too. Even though she disagrees with me at times, she has never been personally disrespectful. She has an essentially good character, and her brutal honesty is refreshing.

But Drawing-live, I'm not sure how she will react to your newfound appreciation of Islam ;)

[rhiannon]

I think leliana should join me and start respecting Muhammad's teachings.
It'll be a cold day in hell for that to ever happen LOL:laugh:

[Trun]

I can only say that if more Europeans were like her, Europeans wouldn't be facing cultural and physical extinction till the end of the century.

Nothing but respect for her.

[Drawing-slim]

But Drawing-live, I'm not sure how she will react to your newfound appreciation of Islam ;)
Well, It must be the will of a true God that spoke to Muhammad in order for me to have the balls and admit this in front of her then.
I'm sure she'll at very least take this under consideration, with her intellectual mind and all.

In order for me to admit this in front of her it is essentially like being in front of a firing squad and say, "fuck it, shoot me if you have to but I'm Not gonna deny it" and taking my blindfolds off my face at the same time.

[Drawing-slim]

In what you like the muhamedan religion???

In all honesty I don't know shit about any religions in detail. But as I been reflecting at all the people I've gotten to know throughout my whole life, I can easily, confidently say that three Albanian guys that happened to be religious Muslim followers but very progressive as well, are by far the most moral clean trustworthy, faithful to their wives, and again, most respectful individuals and not corrupted souls I've come across.
And this is coming from a person that is very very good judge of character. These people will never even know how much I respect them in this sense, these are not even my close friends, I hangout with other non-religious albos and Americans, but these individuals I very highly respect. And yes, they're Muslims and pray or even go to mosques.
Very very good albos that I'm proud of.

And to add how good of a judge of character I am, I pointed out why I appreciate leliana as well. A young girl western girl, stylish, smart, yet she never participated in degenerate tendency threads, she always remains true to her morals and yet remain sexy somehow.

[Kastrioti1443]

In all honesty I don't know shit about any religions in detail. But as I been reflecting at all the people I've gotten to know throughout my whole life, I can easily, confidently say that three Albanian guys that happened to be religious Muslim followers but very progressive as well, are by far the most moral clean trustworthy, faithful to their wives, and again, most respectful individuals and not corrupted souls I've come across.
And this is coming from a person that is very very good judge of character. These people will never even know how much I respect them in this sense, these are not even my close friends, I hangout with other non-religious albos and Americans, but these individuals I very highly respect. And yes, they're Muslims and pray or even go to mosques.
Very very good albos that I'm proud of.

Well this is very far from the real behavior we see from the mainstream muslim countries of middle east. Anyway the mosques through out albanian populated lands are a sign of conquest and defeat.... that is why you do not have mosques in the lands of highlanders, because we were never conquered.

[Zaycev]

Who is Leliana?

[Mortimer]

well i dont want to be a "party pooper" but i dont like her, i have my reasons though, she used to harass me and still doesnt miss a chance to tell how she much hates me and disrespects me, it is hard to like someone who doesnt like you. she also used to thumb be down like for every single post in one thread where she would give me ten thumbs down in one thread or like that. also i dont think she is sexy she is actually one of the very few females who arent sexy, most females here are sexy but she isnt. dont know why, i dont say she is ugly but she doesnt attract me really she is so plain and average and boring in her look.

[glass]

though i dislike Leliana believes and her personality
i must admit she is very good at writing speeches, basically every her post is master piece
like this

Aww, such a dumb attempt to get on my nerves. It would add to the success of your troll attempt if you hadn't made about 8000 useless, pseudo-funny, highly insultive and awkward posts in less than one single year. You're just one of many Internet sicko spawns who have changed their realworld living place with the cyberspace for reasons of failure in RL. While you go on working on your lousily entertaining 'Anti-Alpignid-Ethiopian-Megawarrior-Supersocialist-Rainbow-Northkorean-Asskisser' image I actually lead a life and start a family right now. I have a job I like, a partner I love, hobbies I enjoy and I do something for our local German culture in my spare time. What else could I want?

If I had more tolerance for people like you then there were real reason to pity you. But as time and years go by I find myself equipped with less and less tolerance for Internet assholes and wannabes who want to create a certain image of themselves on the web, so consider yourself treated like an unwanted cockroach.

[Mortimer]

though i dislike Leliana believes and her personality
i must admit she is very good at writing speaches, basically every her post is master peace
like this

if she is good at writing speeches so is paolopinkel or kastrioti, people who use terrible insults like animal/cockroach/sub-human etc. etc. in their speeches, i respect more polite people but who convince with arguments instead of insults and hateful threats

[Smaug]

I like her. Respect her honesty and principles whether I agree or disagree.

This. :)

[Drawing-slim]

Well this is very far from the real behavior we see from the mainstream muslim countries of middle east. Anyway the mosques through out albanian populated lands are a sign of conquest and defeat.... that is why you do not have mosques in the lands of highlanders, because we were never conquered.

Well, these guys are highlanders. Malsors. Two from malsia a madhe and one from Kosovo.
Very educated, very unpretentious, and very smart. And pleasant to talk to.

I'll be honest I've met many more pleasant Jews than Arabs in my life, but this is a totally off topic and for different subject..

[rhiannon]

well i dont want to be a "party pooper" but i dont like her, i have my reasons though, she used to harass me and still doesnt miss a chance to tell how she much hates me and disrespects me, it is hard to like someone who doesnt like you. she also used to thumb be down like for every single post in one thread where she would give me ten thumbs down in one thread or like that. also i dont think she is sexy she is actually one of the very few females who arent sexy, most females here are sexy but she isnt. dont know why, i dont say she is ugly but she doesnt attract me really she is so plain and average and boring in her look. Don't think for a second I don't remember who you compared both her and I to. :tsk:
Believe it or not her and I used to fight like hell. Over time though I think there grew to be a certain level of understanding… Or at least I can say so on my part.

[Mortimer]

don't think for a second I don't remember who you compared both her and I to.
Believe it or not her and I used to fight like hell. Over time though I think there grew to be a certain level of understanding… Or at least I can say so on my part.

I think to Hitler or like that, I dont remember anymore. Wouldnt surprise me if she thinks positively of hitler and germanys nazi past. I dont know that you guys used to fight, i know you as strong Leilana Supporter even when she insulted you came to her support thats why you put you in the same boat as her.

[rhiannon]

I think to Hitler or like that, I dont remember anymore. Wouldnt surprise me if she thinks positively of hitler and germanys nazi past. I dont know that you guys used to fight, i know you as strong Leilana Supporter even when she insulted you came to her support thats why you put you in the same boat as her. The fact you compared me to Hitler was incredibly mean-spirited, unnecessary, and not to mention unfounded. I've never seen her say she thought Hitler did all the right things, either.

Ive been in this forum for over two years. She joined very shortly after I did. You have no idea the fights she and I used to get into. They could get pretty nasty. Overtime I came to see things differently as I learned a lot from the information I read on here... Especially regarding the issue of large-scale immigration into Europe. I have never expected or wanted Europe to pattern itself after the United States. I think for a while she didn't realize that I made that distinction. You still don't seem to think I make that distinction. The old world and the new world are not the same and should not ever be such.

[Mortimer]

The fact you compared me to Hitler was incredibly mean-spirited, unnecessary, and not to mention unfounded. I've never seen her say she thought Hitler did all the right things, either.

Ive been in this forum for over two years. She joined very shortly after I did. You have no idea the fights she and I used to get into. They could get pretty nasty. Overtime I came to see things differently as I learned a lot from the information I read on here... Especially regarding the issue of large-scale immigration into Europe. I have never expected or wanted Europe to pattern itself after the United States. I think for a while she didn't realize that I made that distinction. You still don't seem to think I make that distinction. The old world and the new world are not the same and should not ever be such.

You were also mean to me, you supported Leilanas insults against me, i think you said something like she is right to insult me etc. I wouldnt have said if there were no reason for it, and you also said i shouldnt live in Austria which i took as offense, i mean it is your ideals but it would be like if i tried to drive you out of your house or the USA etc. you would also take it as offense

[glass]

if she is good at writing speeches so is paolopinkel or kastrioti, people who use terrible insults like animal/cockroach/sub-human etc. etc. in their speeches, i respect more polite people but who convince with arguments instead of insults and hateful threats
kastrioti is just throwing random insults
Leliana is doing it with style

kastrioti - you are ...
Leliana - blah blah blah so you are ...

[SKYNET]

She deserves high reputation in any case

[TheMagnificent]

LOL!

[rhiannon]

You were also mean to me, you supported Leilanas insults against me, i think you said something like she is right to insult me etc. I wouldnt have said if there were no reason for it, and you also said i shouldnt live in Austria which i took as offense, i mean it is your ideals but it would be like if i tried to drive you out of your house or the USA etc. you would also take it as offense I have never been mean to you. Have never insulted you. I've never insulted your people..... Unless you take the fact that I shared a bad experience I had with gypsies as a young person as an insult to all of your people. Even then I was not insulting everyone I was merely relaying an experience of mine that you can take nothing from.

Talk to anyone in here and they would likely tell you I am one of the posters least likely to insult somebody, Especially for being of a certain cultural or racial group.

So please do not play the victim with me.

She has a right to feel the way she does about the presence of foreigners in her ancestral homeland. You would have the right to feel the same way about your own ancestral homeland… But I hate to tell you gigolo, Germany or Austria is not your ancestral homeland.

There is another thread that kind of talked about this very thing and in that thread I specify what I would hope to see for everyone. I wish to see homelands for everyone. By this I mean homelands being the ancestral homelands of where your culture grew and flourished over the last several thousand years.:)

[Mortimer]

I have never been mean to you. Have never insulted you. I've never insulted your people..... Unless you take the fact that I shared a bad experience I had with gypsies as a young person as an insult to all of your people. Even then I was not insulting everyone I was merely relaying an experience of mine that you can take nothing from.

Talk to anyone in here and they would likely tell you I am one of the posters least likely to insult somebody, Especially for being of a certain cultural or racial group.

So please do not play the victim with me.

She has a right to feel the way she does about the presence of foreigners in her ancestral homeland. You would have the right to feel the same way about your own ancestral homeland… But I hate to tell you gigolo, Germany or Austria is not your ancestral homeland.

There is another thread that kind of talked about this very thing and in that thread I specify what I would hope to see for everyone. I wish to see homelands for everyone. By this I mean homelands being the ancestral homelands of where your culture grew and flourished over the last several thousand years.:)

you say you are not insulting me but then you say this, to me it is a insult. you basically say she is right to call me whatever she does and to hate me. thats why i said you are like hitler. i dont regret what i said because you say what you do. and im not playing a victim but stating why i said what i did.

[Mortimer]

kastrioti is just throwing random insults
Leliana is doing it with style

kastrioti - you are ...
Leliana - blah blah blah so you are ...

she is throwing random insults too, she once said that my mum smells like shit because she is a gypsy, she uses terrible insults, i dont respect people just because they called someone parasite, sub-human, animal, nigger or gypsy or like that. thats not a great speech to me

[YeshAtid]

she is throwing random insults too, she once said that my mum smells like shit because she is a gypsy, she uses terrible insults, i dont respect people just because they called someone parasite, sub-human, animal, nigger or gypsy or like that. thats not a great speech to me

Jeez, you're the biggest hypocrite on this site! You insult people left, right and centre, yet you demand people tolerate your behaviour. You really need to audit yourself and come to the realisation that you're a nasty piece of work who needs to change pronto!

[rhiannon]

you say you are not insulting me but then you say this, to me it is a insult. you basically say she is right to call me whatever she does and to hate me. thats why i said you are like hitler. i dont regret what i said because you say what you do. and im not playing a victim but stating why i said what i did. I don't think she'd hate you or your people at all if there weren't so many of them moving into her country. You can't change the fact that the two cultures are very different. Germany really should belong to the indigenous people of that nation. That is the culture that should be dominant there. With large numbers of foreigners moving in, the German culture faces possible encroachment. She obviously doesn't want that and I certainly can't blame her for it.

You are partially Serbian and Gypsy correct? Where would be the ancestral homeland of your mother culture? Wherever this is, it should remain the ancestral homeland of your mother culture and not have a foreign culture moving in to possibly take over. If one did, you would have every right to be upset over it. So see? I'm applying the same logic to you as I would to her. You have a gravely mistaken me for something I am not.

[Mortimer]

I don't think she'd hate you or your people at all if there weren't so many of them moving into her country. You can't change the fact that the two cultures are very different. Germany really should belong to the indigenous people of that nation. That is the culture that should be dominant there. With large numbers of foreigners moving in, the German culture faces possible encroachment. She obviously doesn't want that and I certainly can't blame her for it.

You are partially Serbian and Gypsy correct? Where would be the ancestral homeland of your mother culture? Wherever this is, it should remain the ancestral homeland of your mother culture and not have a foreign culture moving in to possibly take over. If one did, you would have every right to be upset over it. So see? I'm applying the same logic to you as I would to her. You have a gravely mistaken me for something I am not.

she has a right to be upset, but im also a human being and have right to be treated with some dignity and respect, and have right to be offended it is not granted and im degraded, insulted or humiliated. no? you think because im foreigner she can say to me what she wants, applying that logic golden dawn is right to kill immigrants in the streets of athens or like that.

[Peyrol]

She was one of the best poster of this board.

[Mortimer]

Jeez, you're the biggest hypocrite on this site! You insult people left, right and centre, yet you demand people tolerate your behaviour. You really need to audit yourself and come to the realisation that you're a nasty piece of work who needs to change pronto!

i think you are a troll with weird obessions and complexes, who has a problem with me for some reason. i dont see that as genuine insult, not like calling you kike or animal or like that or shit and parasite etc. i just state my opinion that you are strange person, who uses to say that he hates niggers, weddoids etc. or gypsies

[Kiyant]

Well dont i personally dont miss her

[rhiannon]

she has a right to be upset, but im also a human being and have right to be treated with some dignity and respect, and have right to be offended it is not granted and im degraded, insulted or humiliated. no? you think because im foreigner she can say to me what she wants, applying that logic golden dawn is right to kill immigrants in the streets of athens or like that. well you know me gigolo, I'm not into insulting people at all. She can be a little harsh. I have talked to her about it before and I know she does not advocate violence.... But her passion for her beliefs may come across somewhat differently to you.

[glass]

she is throwing random insults too, she once said that my mum smells like shit because she is a gypsy, she uses terrible insults, i dont respect people just because they called someone parasite, sub-human, animal, nigger or gypsy or like that. thats not a great speech to me
in essence Kastrioti and Leliana the same but unlike Kastrioti, Leliana has good education and rich cultural background.
Phrase "you are idiot" is insult, it sounds ok in backward society of drug dealers but not in modern society,
Phrase "you are idiot, because..." is not really insult, rather rough/honest (somewhat) argumented opinion, so it has place in civilized society / dicsussion.
see difference? because of this amount of people who dislike likes of Kastrioti is much higher. Also her ability to make extreme views civil is one of reasons of Leliana popularity among people with very limited intellectual capabilties and poor education, like many albanians, ur mom/twitch and some others, other reason is she proud owner of pair (juicy?) boobs ofc

[Insuperable]

you say you are not insulting me but then you say this, to me it is a insult. you basically say she is right to call me whatever she does and to hate me. thats why i said you are like hitler. i dont regret what i said because you say what you do. and im not playing a victim but stating why i said what i did.

She doesn't have the right to insult you or your mother, but you can't blame her for wanting Austria for Austrians.

[Mortimer]

well you know me gigolo, I'm not into insulting people at all. She can be a little harsh. I have talked to her about it before and I know she does not advocate violence.... But her passion for her beliefs may come across somewhat differently to you.

she used to thumb me down for example in one thread ten times and thats harassment to me, of course i dont like her, that was as long until i complained to Loki and she stopped. I dont miss her. I dont mind her views about ancestral homelands but she disrespects me as human being, and i dont need to like that and can be offended. And if there were a reasonable opportunity to move to a country where i would be truly at home and not questioned i would move there or would like to be there, moving to another place is always risky and hard to start a new life and such but i would like to be in a place where im truly at home, she has advantage because she does and i dont, but it is also not my fault it is fault of universe or god

[Smaland]

If Leliana had been alive in 1683, and John Sobieski had needed to take a female warrior to Vienna, he would have chosen Leliana. :thumb001:

[Trun]

among people with very limited intellectual capabilties and poor education, like many albanians, ur mom/twitch and some others, other reason is she proud owner of pair (juicy?) boobs ofc

I wonder what evidence you have of my "intellectual capabilties and poor education". If you are interested, I can lecture you about my life so far. Such lectures are really useful for people like you who think they are so much into psychology that they can judge the mental capabilities of a person through the Internet.

If you didn't just scratch your balls when I was explaining my views on Islam and communism, you'd know that I argumented myself pretty well. I am just not in the mood of posting the same things over and over again, every time I argue with someone like you. Instead I just prefer to end it quickly by calling people, who don't bother to read my arguments, what they actually are. I'm not in Apricity to be friend with anyone, or to be kind, I have even been banned by Loki once for being too extreme to Muslims.

Oh, and I have never seen Leliana's boobs or even her face, and even if I did, it would mean nothing because: 1. She has a boyfriend, 2. She lives 1000 miles away. I'm not one of those types who faps on pictures of random strangers in internet forums and blindly agrees with them just because they have tits. I prefer to think with my upper, not lower head. The reason I respect Leliana is because I agree with her on almost everything she discusses here, it would have been the same if she was a man, or a 70-year-old woman , or a transvestite. I bet most people respect her for the same reason I do.

[Ianus]

I share his worries about Islam, not her political view.

[Leliana]

Oh my god, I've seen this thread only now! Thanks to those who have sent kind words in my direction. :shy: I'm just saying what I think, and I do it unrestricted and with upright, vocal honesty. And those who dislike me, well, the Romans had a saying like 'Molti nemeci, molto onore', didn't they? :cool:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Yup. A much deserving thread.
Even though I'm not religious in anyway, even-though leliana will feel the need to totally destroy me because I've come to like the Muhammad religion, I still value leliana.

As I see this forum with lots of degenerate minded westerners with all kinds of discussing posts and what not, I like leliana because she remains cute sexy stylish and very hardcore conservative westerner at the same time.
She never talks about creepy sexual subjects manages to remain kinda sexy.
Again, even though I've started to be more appreciative towards the teachings of Islam and good moderate Muslim individuals, leliana remains a breath of fresh air on westernized moral characters here. A bit crazy but cute nonetheless.

Go ahead and give your opinions on leliana.

She is nice wholesome girl next door.

[Queen B]

I really-really like Leliana. Only respect and value for her. :thumb001:


well i dont want to be a "party pooper" but i dont like her, i have my reasons though, she used to harass me and still doesnt miss a chance to tell how she much hates me and disrespects me, it is hard to like someone who doesnt like you. she also used to thumb be down like for every single post in one thread where she would give me ten thumbs down in one thread or like that. also i dont think she is sexy she is actually one of the very few females who arent sexy, most females here are sexy but she isnt. dont know why, i dont say she is ugly but she doesnt attract me really she is so plain and average and boring in her look.
Since this is Leliana appreciation thread ~ you are not only a party pooper but you are also trolling her thread, but you are again seeking for attention having wasted 3 pages about yourself - again :picard2:

[Mortimer]

I really-really like Leliana. Only respect and value for her. :thumb001:


Since this is Leliana appreciation thread ~ you are not only a party pooper but you are also trolling her thread, but you are again seeking for attention having wasted 3 pages about yourself - again :picard2:

its good that you dont post regulary here anymore

[Queen B]

its good that you dont post regulary here anymore
You still haven't realized that this is a LELIANA APPRECIATION thread and not ''How to bitch and be an attention whore'', right?

[Loki]

you are the whore and not only an attention one, dumb greek horse faced whore.

Mind your language please ... it is inappropriate.

[Dombra]

Not only insulting the appreciated one but also every one who calls him out for it, I did not expect mrswan too ruin the whole thread :stop00010: Leliana is a great member deserves better

[Mans not hot]

Hey leliana, its nice to meet you.

[Hevo]

Leliana= awesome.

[Manifest Destiny]

I think leliana should join me and start respecting Muhammad's teachings.

Yeah, that's gonna happen. :laugh:

And, yes, Leliana is one of our best members. I wish she posted more often.

[Nor56]

Leliana.
http://i59.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0404/96/aee1b24a79e17cf07f49b70cc69a9096.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)

[Kiyant]

Mrswan stop it this Thread is an appreciation Thread also no insults please

[Kiyant]

I said all stop insulting each other

[Kiyant]

Cleaned the Thread and i hope not to see a "discussion" like this again here

[alb0zfinest]

She's very hard to reason with, and sometimes she speaks about things she doesn't have much knowledge on, but she's alright I guess.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Since its appreciation thread I let it flow however she doesn't deserve a simple respect let alone a appreciation thread on her own.

[Óttar]

I have three thumbs up from a post that no longer exists... :mad:

[Chieftain]

I think leliana should join me and start respecting Muhammad's teachings.

What teachings man? Are you serious?

Raping 6 year old Ayesha, spreading the word of God and love with a shiny long dagger?

I hold the belief that being Roman Catholic culturally and Pagan religiously is the best choice for us malesors of Northern Albania and Albanians as a general.

[Manifest Destiny]

she has a right to be upset, but im also a human being and have right to be treated with some dignity and respect, and have right to be offended it is not granted and im degraded, insulted or humiliated. no? you think because im foreigner she can say to me what she wants, applying that logic golden dawn is right to kill immigrants in the streets of athens or like that.

Respect is earned, not given out of pity or political correctness.

[Drawing-slim]

What teachings man? Are you serious?

Raping 6 year old Ayesha, spreading the word of God and love with a shiny long dagger?

I hold the belief that being Roman Catholic culturally and Pagan religiously is the best choice for us malesors of Northern Albania and Albanians as a general.

I don't think Muhammed raped anybody. He was a good man. Forget the propaganda against him.
We got priests raping and molesting kids. Misery loves company so they want to stain Muhammed with the same dirt, but they fail miserably.
Anyway fuck all religions, I simply like the conservative side of Islam, not the crazy radical stupid breeds out there screaming on the streets.

[Borna]

This templar totally approves her posts ! Christendom is threatened, we need more people like her.

[Linebacker]

I don't appreciate or respect her at all.

Racist xenophobic bitch.Being overly religious is bad for you.

[Manifest Destiny]

I don't appreciate or respect her at all.

Racist xenophobic bitch.Being overly religious is bad for you.

Yet you still felt the need to click on this thread and shitpost? Fascinating.

[Linebacker]

Yet you still felt the need to click on this thread and shitpost? Fascinating.

Yeah Im posting my opinion,just like everyone else posting theirs in threads I make.

If you got a problem with my opinion you can ride the Fuck Off Wagon straight to Go fuck yourself Valley.

[Leliana]

I don't appreciate or respect her at all.

Racist xenophobic bitch.Being overly religious is bad for you.
http://media.giphy.com/media/s0LuyukYV5gk/giphy.gif

[Manifest Destiny]

Yeah Im posting my opinion,just like everyone else posting theirs in threads I make.

If you got a problem with my opinion you can ride the Fuck Off Wagon straight to Go fuck yourself Valley.

It's Autism Awareness Month. Thanks for the outbursts. :lol:

[Shah-Jehan]

http://media.giphy.com/media/s0LuyukYV5gk/giphy.gif

I can guarantee that you wouldn't or couldn't dare to do that to him in real life, he's built.

[Peyrol]

She's 1000000000% right.

These fucking brown pieces of pork-meat, a.k.a. maghrebi and MENAs muslims, are ruining my land (as her ''Vaterland'').

Get out of this continent coward rapists.

[Skerdilaid]

I kind of liked here in the beginning when she was parading as full anti Islam and all, but then she showed her colors, and she is not just anti Islam but in fact very much anti Albanian. That got my senses heightened. So yeah fuck her!

[Leliana]

I can guarantee that you wouldn't or couldn't dare to do that to him in real life, he's built.
Oh, wow. He's 'built'. That's so impressive, really! :picard2:

http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/1/0/1020323.1145166290196.small_head.jpg

[Leliana]

I kind of liked here in the beginning when she was parading as full anti Islam and all, but then she showed her colors, and she is not just anti Islam but in fact very much anti Albanian. That got my senses heightened. So yeah fuck her!
The problem is that some Albanians are pro-Islam or defend Muslim Albanians. And then there's the problem of criminal (Kosovo)-Albanians in Germany/Austria and the board members who say that isn't any problem which is a blatant lie. :mad: And I'm not excusing myself for my opinion that I think that Kosovo is a failed state, a state that shouldn't exist and shall be a part of Serbia instead. If you're butt-hurt about it then so be it, I'm not fishing for compliments from all sides and factions.

I'm not an enemy of Albania or Albanian people in contrast to fully Muslim countries which I loath with a burning heart, but I'd prefer your people to stay within your borders. Defend your Gheg Highlands and don't flood our cities. Gheg Highlanders belong to the Gheg Highlands, whatever Gheg Highlanderism is supposed to be. And Germany/Austria are NOT the Gheg Highlands...

[Peyrol]

The italian speakers would laugh at this


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FPwvU3SNHfs/UaWXTuPSC1I/AAAAAAAAfNw/lGPhZ011bGU/s1600/971222_10201231284489957_184245979_n.jpg

[Skerdilaid]

The problem is that some Albanians are pro-Islam or defend Muslim Albanians. And then there's the problem of criminal (Kosovo)-Albanians in Germany/Austria and the board members who say that isn't any problem which is a blatant lie. :mad: And I'm not excusing myself for my opinion that I think that Kosovo is a failed state, a state that shouldn't exist and shall be a part of Serbia instead. If you're butt-hurt about it then so be it, I'm not fishing for compliments from all sides and factions.

A good portion of Albanians are traditional Muslims that lean very much toward Agnostics, and they are part of my nation. I will give you a bit of a history lesson regarding the criminals of Kosova as you seem to be quite fond of them. These Albanian regions were given to these Slavic untermench states of Balkan in the Berlin and Paris conference, so these emigrants or as you like to call them "criminals" escaped oppression of foreign states in their own land. So technically your country has contributed to their emigration, and I have to say you truly deserve what you have created out of them! The same Albanians from Kosova have emigrated in North America and Australia, but are not known as criminals but the most integrated community, and in general are very wealthy. Kosova is a failed state I agree, until if follows the natural route an joins mother Albania.

I am not butt hurt as you put it, but I hate ignorance and religious freaks like you, be them Muslim or Christians

[Chieftain]

The problem is that some Albanians are pro-Islam or defend Muslim Albanians. And then there's the problem of criminal (Kosovo)-Albanians in Germany/Austria and the board members who say that isn't any problem which is a blatant lie. :mad: And I'm not excusing myself for my opinion that I think that Kosovo is a failed state, a state that shouldn't exist and shall be a part of Serbia instead. If you're butt-hurt about it then so be it, I'm not fishing for compliments from all sides and factions.

I'm not an enemy of Albania or Albanian people in contrast to fully Muslim countries which I loath with a burning heart, but I'd prefer your people to stay within your borders. Defend your Gheg Highlands and don't flood our cities. Gheg Highlanders belong to the Gheg Highlands, whatever Gheg Highlanderism is supposed to be. And Germany/Austria are NOT the Gheg Highlands...

A double edged dagger as always, two faced coin or the fraudy mirror as some would say.

I feel quite amazed that some members are lacking the basic compassion feelings for a human's life, regardless it's religion, skin colour, sex, political views, sexual preferences and so on, the first thought coming to some's mind is 'Crush it, kill it immidiately'!

Anyway back on topic, there have never been any pro-muslim albanian member, it seems that you spend too much time reading on the wrong sites or talking to the different people of certain hateful views, most forum members here are Atheistic, Christian(a few Orthodox, but three Catholics(like Kastriot) and myself whom I declare to be culturally Roman Catholic, but religiously I'm a monohybrid tending to weight more on the pagan side, because my ancestors were pagans.

Now when it comes to Kosovo(Dardania) you're basing your opinion in the religious side as you think it is a muslim terrorist illegal state and that's the way internet propoganda works, I've been to Kosovo tons of times, the things that the Internet publishes are 99% percent rubbish.

The world recognized them as a free state, there is no opression in Kosovo, radical Islam or whatever people say, I know serbs who travel to Kosovo freely but albanians can't cross their own border to go anywhere because we're seen as aliens everywhere.


First of all, there are less than 15.000 Albanians in Austria(10 million pop. state) and they don't compromise even 0.1% of the entire population there, I read a lot about it and the Albanian influence there is almost unexistant, yet I can't trace any of your posts ranting about the 300.000 Serbs present in Austria(they are not even Roman Catholic or Germanic, far fetched away from your general culture), and about the 600.000+ Serbs in Germany and both serb diasporas are heavily represanted in immigrant gangs but this is colour blind to you I see.

No one is flooding your cities don't worry, the times of large scale immigration are long gone and many immigrants have come home(Italy, Greece and Germany) yet as I previously stated yet the number of Serbs and other non-albanian balkan immigrants raises(mostly slavs), the Albanians tend to be the lonely black sheep that no one wants, the black swan with no friends and just because they are not Orthodox and do not speak slavic(slavs are immigrants in these lands too) they have to be bashed online, of course.

So much for the double standarts, in one paragraph you state that you don't care about Albanians and you don't hate them and in the one upwards you say that their country should not exist, I bet that you'd like us all to be slaughtered like animals, shedding blood again so you'd be happy, yet I am very dissapointed and feel quite sad since I've never commited any crime in my life, never bent to pray to Al-Ah or even 'flooded' any country, I must be hated, I am an albanian subhuman with no rights of anything, I must obbey your online orders and surrender my 'terrorist' country for the whom my grandfather died and my great-grandfather lost his sight and could not even see his own children grow up or even know what your child's hair is like..it must go to Serbia, the angelic state of Europe.

And by the way, except for Roman Catholic culture that is linked somehow to European culture, Islam, Christian Eastern Orthodoxy and Judaism are all of them religions NON-NATIVE in Europe, my ancestors worshiped snake god brother twins, yours worshiped Thor, Odin and Loki.

I am Roman Catholic culturally and practice it in some way, so except for the liturgies/sacraments that link us, I see nothing else except a cold death wish against me, thank you very much.

[Minesweeper]

A good portion of Albanians are traditional Muslims that lean very much toward Agnostics, and they are part of my nation. I will give you a bit of a history lesson regarding the criminals of Kosova as you seem to be quite fond of them. These Albanian regions were given to these Slavic untermench states of Balkan in the Berlin and Paris conference, so these emigrants or as you like to call them "criminals" escaped oppression of foreign states in their own land. So technically your country has contributed to their emigration, and I have to say you truly deserve what you have created out of them! The same Albanians from Kosova have emigrated in North America and Australia, but are not known as criminals but the most integrated community, and in general are very wealthy. Kosova is a failed state I agree, until if follows the natural route an joins mother Albania.

I am not butt hurt as you put it, but I hate ignorance and religious freaks like you, be them Muslim or Christians

You've sent hundreds of thousands of mostly uneducated hillbillies to Europe and you blame others for them being criminals. What else could they be except criminals and cheap labor? And the story of Albanians in USA being well integrated and wealthy and so on is a very cool story, too bad it's not true.

[Drawing-slim]

Take it easy dudes. One does not have to like albanians in order to be a likable person.

[alb0zfinest]

You've sent hundreds of thousands of mostly uneducated hillbillies to Europe and you blame others for them being criminals. What else could they be except criminals and cheap labor? And the story of Albanians in USA being well integrated and wealthy and so on is a very cool story, too bad it's not true.

Elaborate.

[Skerdilaid]

You've sent hundreds of thousands of mostly uneducated hillbillies to Europe and you blame others for them being criminals. What else could they be except criminals and cheap labor? And the story of Albanians in USA being well integrated and wealthy and so on is a very cool story, too bad it's not true.

Yes we have sent them in a special mission, minibrain:rolleyes:


Most Kosovars that emigrated to Western Europe did after 60s from pure pressure and poverty, and not to forget to escape the Yugoslav army services. So what they were or from which class they belonged has nothing to do with anything! In fact the early emigrants integrated quite well in Germany, and all worked supper hard to make a living. The only time when they reverted to criminality is mostly in late 80s and early 90s after the abolishment of the Autonomy by Serbia. So there were huge influx of immigrants during this stage in Austria and Germany. But all this is besides the point you are trying to make here.....when we know there are a lot more Serbs in those countires then Albanian, and also are involved in crimes in bigger proportion too. So why are you even engaging in this debate?

Come to America and see for yourself. In fact your Slavic folk that have been here since WW2 are poor compare to the recent Kosova emigrants. But what a fuck do you know?

[Minesweeper]

Elaborate.

I don't think Albanians in USA are well integrated and wealthy, at least not to such extent that they should be seen as positive example compared to those in Europe.

[Drawing-slim]

You've sent hundreds of thousands of mostly uneducated hillbillies to Europe and you blame others for them being criminals. What else could they be except criminals and cheap labor? And the story of Albanians in USA being well integrated and wealthy and so on is a very cool story, too bad it's not true.
Albanians have done very well in USA. Very well.

[SKYNET]

SOS (!)
Leliana, look at here, your thread is turning into a psycho-Balkan flame war :lol:

[Linebacker]

Well I hate to be standing up for the Albanians,but if that means being enemy to the ignorant Lameliana and her followers,then Albanians here I come.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It's true a lot of muslims are not bad people or fanatics, in fact most of them are nominal muslim. It's just muslim religion period that needs to go, it's inherently a mess. And it's more about dominance of people in this world than anything to do with the next.

As for albos I would take that over most the immigrants that come to US any day of the week, so long as they are real albanian not some jihader from another country, coming through albania. But for country like germany which is a single ethnicity more or less, taking in a bunch of immigrants is just a shameful destruction of a good people and culture. Having some little mixing is always going to happen but it's ten times or even a hundred times more than what can be sustained in the long run.

[iNird]

I don't think Albanians in USA are well integrated and wealthy, at least not to such extent that they should be seen as positive example compared to those in Europe.

Well it doesn't matter what you think because reality says otherwise.

[armenianbodyhair]

I think some of the things she says are unessesarily harsh and bigoted.

[Minesweeper]

Yes we have sent them in a special mission, minibrain:rolleyes:


Most Kosovars that emigrated to Western Europe did after 60s from pure pressure and poverty, and not to forget to escape the Yugoslav army services. So what they were or from which class they belonged has nothing to do with anything! In fact the early emigrants integrated quite well in Germany, and all worked supper hard to make a living. The only time when they reverted to criminality is mostly in late 80s and early 90s after the abolishment of the Autonomy by Serbia. So there were huge influx of immigrants during this stage in Austria and Germany. But all this is besides the point you are trying to make here.....when we know there are a lot more Serbs in those countires then Albanian, and also are involved in crimes in bigger proportion too. So why are you even engaging in this debate?

Come to America and see for yourself. In fact your Slavic folk that have been here since WW2 are poor compare to the recent Kosova emigrants. But what a fuck do you know?

The point is, everyone has to be blamed, only people who can't be blamed are Albanians, their deviancy is justified. However, when the noble race from the mountains leaves for USA they show their full potentials. It doesn't matter that Albanian criminal groups in USA are among strongest in the country, imagination creates miracles. Why don't you go to USA, earn a lot of money and build a big house in the 95% white suburb?

[Han Cholo]

I think some of the things she says are unessesarily harsh and bigoted.

It's good to be that way.

[Manifest Destiny]

I think some of the things she says are unessesarily harsh and bigoted.

I like that she's brutally honest and isn't afraid to speak her mind.

[Dandelion]

Leliana is one of the better members of this forum; one who spices up a forum, not a grey mouse.

[armenianbodyhair]

It's good to be that way.

Speak for yourself.

[Han Cholo]

Speak for yourself.

Am I not? :loco:

[armenianbodyhair]

I like that she's brutally honest and isn't afraid to speak her mind.

Neither are toddlers who need their diaper changed.

[armenianbodyhair]

Am I not? :loco:

Why quote me? Is there some kind of compelling reason I should agree with you? If so, you've not presented it . Also no what you did was make an absolute statemtn.

[Dandelion]

Neither are toddlers who need their diaper changed.

The difference however is that toddlers can't join a forum and participate. :p

[Han Cholo]

Why quote me? Is there some kind of compelling reason I should agree with you? If so, you've not presented it . Also no what you did was make an absolute statemtn.

Now am I forbidden to quote you or what? Absolute statement or not, it was posted under my nickname, so it means I am speaking for myself and not for you or anyone else.

[armenianbodyhair]

The difference however is that toddlers can't join a forum and participate. :p

If they could they'd probably outshine a few members on this board in terms of intelligence.

[B01AB20]

Leliana is a good poster, consistent, with intellectual honesty and always straight to the point. Leliana don't like vane and empty words or people. :cool:
And her POV about muslims, immigration etc are shared by most european members, so no surprise she's so popular here; I would vote for her for the EU presidency!!

Only thing I can't understand about her is how an intelligent and cultured person can have a faith and live in a religion so 'unintellectual' as christianism, but while 'render unto cesar's that which is cesar's...', no problem.

[Kastrioti1443]

The point is, everyone has to be blamed, only people who can't be blamed are Albanians, their deviancy is justified. However, when the noble race from the mountains leaves for USA they show their full potentials. It doesn't matter that Albanian criminal groups in USA are among strongest in the country, imagination creates miracles. Why don't you go to USA, earn a lot of money and build a big house in the 95% white suburb?

I am sure Americans like Dresden and Melonhead would be very happy for that since those albanians took over the areas that once were ruled by puerto ricans, aframs, russians, people who raped and did trouble in the streets and mostly of non european heritage.

Albanian Mafia Syndicates ( for the info of everybody here, the leaders are in majority Catholic Albanians) are professional companies, like Banks, they invest somewhere and take the place and no innocent is harmed, especially americans of european heritage.

PS: The serbian criminal groups in spain are known for cannibals, not just than 3 years ago a serbian gang leader ate another serb.

[armenianbodyhair]

Now am I forbidden to quote you or what? Absolute statement or not, it was posted under my nickname, so it means I am speaking for myself and not for you or anyone else.

relax hombre. The difference between making an absolute statement and speaking for yourself is an obvious one. If you had said "I think it's good to be that way" (or w/e your exact words were), it would not be an issue, but since you didn't I can only assume you were making an absolute statement.

[Han Cholo]

relax hombre. The difference between making an absolute statement and speaking for yourself is an obvious one. If you had said "I think it's good to be that way" (or w/e your exact words were), it would not be an issue, but since you didn't I can only assume you were making an absolute statement.

I need no coward euphemisms for my ideas.

[armenianbodyhair]

Leliana is a good poster, consistent, with intellectual honesty and always straight to the point. Leliana don't like vane and empty words or people. :cool:
And her POV about muslims, immigration etc are shared by most european members, so no surprise she's so popular here; I would vote for her for the EU presidency!!

Only thing I can't understand about her is how an intelligent and cultured person can have a faith and live in a religion so 'unintellectual' as christianism, but while 'render unto cesar's that which is cesar's...', no problem.
It always raises a flag for me when someone can be so fanatically against one abrahamic monotheistic religion while following another.

[armenianbodyhair]

I need no coward euphemisms for my ideas.

Wow, you can't even admit when you make a mistake. You're clearly a human being whose beliefs I want to emulate.

[Skerdilaid]

The point is, everyone has to be blamed, only people who can't be blamed are Albanians, their deviancy is justified. However, when the noble race from the mountains leaves for USA they show their full potentials. It doesn't matter that Albanian criminal groups in USA are among strongest in the country, imagination creates miracles. Why don't you go to USA, earn a lot of money and build a big house in the 95% white suburb?

Majority of the refugees that came here in 99 actually live in middle or upper class suburbs. There is no such a thing as white suburbs here, money rules!

[Han Cholo]

Wow, you can't even admit when you make a mistake. You're clearly a human being whose beliefs I want to emulate.

People emulating me is not my goal. But good for them if they do.

[alb0zfinest]

I don't think Albanians in USA are well integrated and wealthy, at least not to such extent that they should be seen as positive example compared to those in Europe.

Most Albanians immigrated to the U.S only recently, and taking that into account they have done quite well for themselves, when compared to other immigrant groups that have recently come, or that came before but looking at it from the perspective of when they first came and how well they adjusted. But even if you compare Albanians to other immigrant groups who have been here for a while, they fare of pretty well. But this is quite a tricky subject since different groups had to face different things, so an immigrants groups advancement depended on of course on their intelligence etc etc, but also on the circumstances they faced. Its also a tricky subject because the U.S is a colossal country. Some states are poorer, others wealthy so an Albanian could very well be integrated in one state and be wealthy, and than in another be considered dirt poor etc etc. Albanians in the U.S form a very, very, very small minority. Yet despite this there is an Albanian congressman, An Albanian senator, mayor, and assemblyman of New York in politics. You have academics like ferid murad (nobel laurate), Laura mersini (well known physicist-cosmologist ), etc etc countless others in sports, media, science and technology, business etc etc. And again this is merely a minority of 200,000 of a country of 308 million.
Also, You have plenty of Albanians in top universities, and for a minority that only recently came to the U.S this is an astounding progress. Practically every, son and daughter of my cousins alone is attending college.

[armenianbodyhair]

People emulating me is not my goal. But good for them if they do.


So to recap you don't know the difference between stating your opinion and making an absolute statement and you're gawd damn proud of it.

[Han Cholo]

So to recap you don't know the difference between stating your opinion and making an absolute statement and you're gawd damn proud of it.

No big difference in this context, I'm not writing a constitution or a scientific paper.

If that was the case, I would agree. But it isn't.

[Manifest Destiny]

It always raises a flag for me when someone can be so fanatically against one abrahamic monotheistic religion while following another.

That argument would be valid if both religious groups exhibited identical behavior.

[iNird]

Most Albanians immigrated to the U.S only recently, and taking that into account they have done quite well for themselves, when compared to other immigrant groups that have recently come, or that came before but looking at it from the perspective of when they first came and how well they adjusted. But even if you compare Albanians to other immigrant groups who have been here for a while, they fare of pretty well. But this is quite a tricky subject since different groups had to face different things, so an immigrants groups advancement depended on of course on their intelligence etc etc, but also on the circumstances they faced. Its also a tricky subject because the U.S is a colossal country. Some states are poorer, others wealthy so an Albanian could very well be integrated in one state and be wealthy, and than in another be considered dirt poor etc etc. Albanians in the U.S form a very, very, very small minority. Yet despite this there is an Albanian congressman, An Albanian senator, mayor, and assemblyman of New York in politics. You have academics like ferid murad (nobel laurate), Laura mersini (well known physicist-cosmologist ), etc etc countless others in sports, media, science and technology, business etc etc. And again this is merely a minority of 200,000 of a country of 308 million.
Also, You have plenty of Albanians in top universities, and for a minority that only recently came to the U.S this is an astounding progress. Practically every, son and daughter of my cousins alone is attending college.

albanians tbh do not differ much from other balkan groups in the United States in terms of education, wealth, attitude etc. albanians tend to be a bit more secluded and do not mingle as much with the other south slavs and their functions.

[armenianbodyhair]

That argument would be valid if both religious groups exhibited identical behavior.

Right so when Christians were killing all the pagans in Rome and going on crusades, that was all fine and dandy...

[armenianbodyhair]

No big difference in this context, I'm not writing a constitution or a scientific paper.

If that was the case, I would agree. But it isn't.

If you are not explicitly implying that it is just your opinion, no one is going to know it is.

[alb0zfinest]

albanians tbh do not differ much from other balkan groups in the United States in terms of education, wealth, attitude etc

In terms of education and wealth they do actually (at least the children of these recent immigrants.. But you are right about the attitude business.

[Manifest Destiny]

Right so when Christians were killing all the pagans in Rome and going on crusades, that was all fine and dandy...

Your argument is invalid if you have to compare things Christians did hundreds or even thousands of years ago to prove your point.

[Han Cholo]

If you are not explicitly implying that it is just your opinion, no one is going to know it is.

I think everyone does. But I'll have more consideration for autists who can't figure it out next time.

[alb0zfinest]

Your argument is invalid if you have to compare things Christians did hundreds or even thousands of years ago to prove your point.

What if i told you that when Christianity was facing the dark ages, the muslim world experienced vast advancement in science, technology, and actually had healthy debates about the religion they followed and were actually allowed to criticise it, where as in christianity you would be hanged for such things. Islam started in a good path, then it went down hill. Christianity started in a crappy path and then went up hill. But just as what happened to islam, what is up has to come down. Eventually the tides will turn (not that i actually give a crap). By the way you are comparing a religion that prevails among the poor, and so these uneducated people have different interpretations, also you are talking about a text that has been edited many times the update with the age vs a text that has not been edited (at least for the most part).

[ab000]

In what you like the muhamedan religion???

You are Persian and Albanian at the same time?

[Kastrioti1443]

You are Persian and Albanian at the same time?

Yeah.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

What if i told you that when Christianity was facing the dark ages, the muslim world experienced vast advancement in science, technology, and actually had healthy debates about the religion they followed and were actually allowed to criticise it, where as in christianity you would be hanged for such things. Islam started in a good path, then it went down hill. Christianity started in a crappy path and then went up hill. But just as what happened to islam, what is up has to come down. Eventually the tides will turn (not that i actually give a crap). By the way you are comparing a religion that prevails among the poor, and so these uneducated people have different interpretations, also you are talking about a text that has been edited many times the update with the age vs a text that has not been edited (at least for the most part).

Muslims made the dark ages. The ottomans and others simply rode on the achievements of people they conquered, but these dried up quickly.

[B01AB20]

It always raises a flag for me when someone can be so fanatically against one abrahamic monotheistic religion while following another.

It always raises a flag for me when someone can be so fanatically against one [futbol team, scientifical theory, music style, tobacco brand,......:p ........, religion] while following another.

You must have a lot of flags raised, myaremicantits. ;)

[Kastrioti1443]

Muslims made the dark ages. The ottomans and others simply rode on the achievements of people they conquered, but these dried up quickly.

That is very true. what Ottomans did to Albanians it is unrecoverable even now days.

[Chieftain]

All semitic religions= Same shit.

They all came from the arabic peoples and the Middle East, nothing to do with Europe.

European culture is linked only culturally but not religiously with Roman Catholicism, Calvinism, Lutherianism, there's no way Eastern Orthodoxy is 'European', it originates from Eastern Russian steppes and it is heavily non-european influenced.

I believe we should go back to being pagans, us illyrians with Mikon and Zana maidens, Germanics with Thor, Odin, Loki..Celts with their own beliefs based on the druid teachings..and slavs...wait, they have no pagan history(they're recent immigrants from the East :rolleyes:)

[alb0zfinest]

Muslims made the dark ages. The ottomans and others simply rode on the achievements of people they conquered, but these dried up quickly.

I'm not talking about the Ottomans.

[Skerdilaid]

I'm not talking about the Ottomans.

You are wrong though in all accounts. Muslims did nothing of importance, they basically relied and actually spread the texts of Alexandria that belonged to Ancient Greece. So this should give you a hint how advanced they were....

[alb0zfinest]

You are wrong though in all accounts. Muslims did nothing of importance, they basically relied and actually spread the texts of Alexandria that belonged to Ancient Greece. So this should give you a hint how advanced they were....

:rolleyes2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

[Skerdilaid]

:rolleyes2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

So exactly what I said, bunch of goat fuckers that adopted and collected a lot of already compiled knowledge of other civilizations, such as Persian, Greek, Egyptian etc.

Eastern Christian scholars (including ibn Ishaq) were important in preserving ancient Greek texts.[8] During the 4th through the 7th centuries, scholarly work in the Syriac and Greek languages was either newly initiated, or carried on from the Hellenistic period. Centers of learning and of transmission of classical wisdom included colleges such as the School of Nisibis and later the School of Edessa, and the renowned hospital and medical academy of Jundishapur; libraries included the Library of Alexandria and the Imperial Library of Constantinople; and other centers of translation and learning functioned at Merv, Salonika, Nishapur and Ctesiphon situated just south of what was later to become Baghdad.[9][10] The House of Wisdom was a library, translation institute and academy established in Abbasid-era Baghdad, Iraq.

[Pjeter Pan]

All semitic religions= Same shit.

They all came from the arabic peoples and the Middle East, nothing to do with Europe.

European culture is linked only culturally but not religiously with Roman Catholicism, Calvinism, Lutherianism, there's no way Eastern Orthodoxy is 'European', it originates from Eastern Russian steppes and it is heavily non-european influenced.

I believe we should go back to being pagans, us illyrians with Mikon and Zana maidens, Germanics with Thor, Odin, Loki..Celts with their own beliefs based on the druid teachings..and slavs...wait, they have no pagan history(they're recent immigrants from the East :rolleyes:)
I thought you were a proud Roman Catholic? What happened?

[Minesweeper]

Most Albanians immigrated to the U.S only recently, and taking that into account they have done quite well for themselves, when compared to other immigrant groups that have recently come, or that came before but looking at it from the perspective of when they first came and how well they adjusted. But even if you compare Albanians to other immigrant groups who have been here for a while, they fare of pretty well. But this is quite a tricky subject since different groups had to face different things, so an immigrants groups advancement depended on of course on their intelligence etc etc, but also on the circumstances they faced. Its also a tricky subject because the U.S is a colossal country. Some states are poorer, others wealthy so an Albanian could very well be integrated in one state and be wealthy, and than in another be considered dirt poor etc etc. Albanians in the U.S form a very, very, very small minority. Yet despite this there is an Albanian congressman, An Albanian senator, mayor, and assemblyman of New York in politics. You have academics like ferid murad (nobel laurate), Laura mersini (well known physicist-cosmologist ), etc etc countless others in sports, media, science and technology, business etc etc. And again this is merely a minority of 200,000 of a country of 308 million.
Also, You have plenty of Albanians in top universities, and for a minority that only recently came to the U.S this is an astounding progress. Practically every, son and daughter of my cousins alone is attending college.

That's basically the position that many other groups of immigrants achieve. It's nothing spectacular but something expected if you immigrate to USA. I give to USA that they can really extract the best from their immigrants, unlike Europe.

[Trun]

Why should every thread end up with discussion about Albanians?

There are already 832467584365834658743687536845636583265836853 threads about Albos, go there.

[Linebacker]

Why should every thread end up with discussion about Albanians?

There are already 832467584365834658743687536845636583265836853 threads about Albos, go there.

Because they are Gheg Highlander Superhumans.You can't deny that,if you do,you are a stupid turk gypsy :D

[Hong Key]

delete

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I'm not talking about the Ottomans.

Ottomans, persians, Egypt, north africa...these are all the same story. Dark ages is because roman empire fell. Rennaisance came about when constantinople fell to crusaders and recovered much of the lost writings and culture, which were originally from europe.

Muslims never did anything but conquer some people who were in dire straits, then ride on their achievements, which quickly stopped the more firmly in the frip of islam their subjects became.

[Leliana]

Anyway back on topic, there have never been any pro-muslim albanian member, it seems that you spend too much time reading on the wrong sites or talking to the different people of certain hateful views, most forum members here are Atheistic, Christian(a few Orthodox, but three Catholics(like Kastriot) and myself whom I declare to be culturally Roman Catholic, but religiously I'm a monohybrid tending to weight more on the pagan side, because my ancestors were pagans.
I'm a member of the board for a far longer time than you, and there have been Albanian members who defended Muslim influence in Albania/Elsewhere or the venomous cult of Islam as a whole. There were other Albanians, granted, but one side doesn't make up for the other side. Tonsor e.g. was one of the better Albanians even when we had our disagreements.

Now when it comes to Kosovo(Dardania) you're basing your opinion in the religious side as you think it is a muslim terrorist illegal state and that's the way internet propoganda works, I've been to Kosovo tons of times, the things that the Internet publishes are 99% percent rubbish.
The point is that Kosovo can only operate as an outpost of degenerate EU politics. It was created by EU and is subsidied by EU. The flag of Kosovo uses the same colors and has same style as the official EU flag, it looks awful! :picard2: Parts of my taxpayer money actually goes to Kosovo to make it at least work for another day. Kosovo couldn't exist without our money, without 'our' heavy support and heavy financial burdens. It's a failed state kept alive by others. And it's a place of criminal circles, Albanian Mafia and other horrible business like Organ trafficking. The Organ trafficking business in Europe is ruled by Albanian people.

Are all Kosovo Albanians criminals? No. But the clanish structure and the honor codex of Albanian people makes it difficult to arrest criminals as the clans and the families cover their own 'bad sheeps' till the last drop of their own blood. I've nothing against 'honor' and hell, I'd like us Central Europeans to have more guts again, but a conception of honor is ill-conceptioned when it protects and shelters criminals.


The world recognized them as a free state, there is no opression in Kosovo, radical Islam or whatever people say, I know serbs who travel to Kosovo freely but albanians can't cross their own border to go anywhere because we're seen as aliens everywhere.
Uhm, so the regular outburts of violence in Kosovo which have to be watched by international millitary troops are all fiction? :rolleyes2:


First of all, there are less than 15.000 Albanians in Austria(10 million pop. state)
There're about 500.000 Albanians+Kosovars in Germany, and then there are Albanians with German or Austrian citizenship. You know well enough that the numbers are way higher than 'just' some 15.000 Albanians in Austria. Vienna alone has about up to 10.000 Albanians!


So much for the double standarts, in one paragraph you state that you don't care about Albanians and you don't hate them and in the one upwards you say that their country should not exist, I bet that you'd like us all to be slaughtered like animals, shedding blood again so you'd be happy
Oh my god, that's utter nonsense. Do you actually believe what you write?

I must be hated, I am an albanian subhuman with no rights of anything, I must obbey your online orders and surrender my 'terrorist' country for the whom my grandfather died and my great-grandfather lost his sight and could not even see his own children grow up or even know what your child's hair is like..

:033102st:

Maybe I've been a bit too harsh on Albanian people and I'll put my words like that now: I don't hate Albanian people or Albanian culture. No one in Central Europe knows about 'Gheg Highlanders' but I like the spirit to defend the own mountains/lands to the bones and to reject foreign influence. I can support that.:) But I don't like Albanian structures, clans or influence in MY countries! Albanian clans are famous in Germany for their criminal record.

That I've invested about 15 minutes to respond to your reply should tell you that I don't hate you with a flaming heart because true enemies aren't worth that time.


It always raises a flag for me when someone can be so fanatically against one abrahamic monotheistic religion while following another.
I know what Catholicism has done to and for Europe, but I equally appreciate the manifold heathen roots of Catholicism. Catholicism has adopted some heathen rituals and celebrations. You've yet to read a negative post about Germanic, Celtic or Slavic heathendom from my side! I have never written a negative post about European heathens. I respect them and I'm interested in their history, views and rituals. I recognize that at one time in history, parts of my family were heathens, too.

My hate is on Muslims and Islam, and I'm loyal to my hate because I have good personal, historical, ideological, religious, contemporary and social reasons.



SOS (!)
Leliana, look at here, your thread is turning into a psycho-Balkan flame war :lol:
Nothing new, there're even vintage poetries about the neverending turmoil on the Balkans...:cool:

http://www.silyrik.de/snips/images/202832604.jpg

[Dandelion]

If they could they'd probably outshine a few members on this board in terms of intelligence.

Some of the classification buffs are these IMO, not Leliana. :p

[The Illyrian Warrior]

What I found more interesting about this thread is OP made an appreciation thread all about Leliana and as reward got nothing, not a simple thanks nor even a thumb as sign of gratitude.

[Dandelion]

What I found more interesting about this thread is OP made an appreciation thread all about Leliana and as reward got nothing, not a simple thanks nor even a thumb as sign of gratitude.

Well, if you become more appreciative of Islam without being brainwashed into it, I also question such a person's morality.

[Borna]

It is funny and chivalric that some men call an female member a "bitch", because they don't agree with her. Little of home education, and fine manners won't do any bad to you.
I really despise barbaric behavior certain members display here everyday." I don't agree with someone, but still i can call him fool, gypsy, mongrel, imbecile and add more of verbal diarrhea at the end ."

That is complete celebration of ignorance.

[alb0zfinest]

So exactly what I said, bunch of goat fuckers that adopted and collected a lot of already compiled knowledge of other civilizations, such as Persian, Greek, Egyptian etc.

so what, they compiled what was known then they built on it. That's how things go in pretty much every field.

[alb0zfinest]

That's basically the position that many other groups of immigrants achieve. It's nothing spectacular but something expected if you immigrate to USA. I give to USA that they can really extract the best from their immigrants, unlike Europe.

Actually that's not true. There are plenty of immigrant groups that don't achieve that or even come close to it. And if they do it takes them several generations.
Albanians have integrated to U.S society, how else do you expect them to integrate?

[Borna]

Actually that's not true. There are plenty of immigrant groups that don't achieve that or even come close to it. And if they do it takes them several generations.
Albanians have integrated to U.S society, how else do you expect them to integrate?

I totally oppose immigration, even among fellow Europeans. I think it is wrong. And don't get me wrong, but number of immigrants who succeed in USA is far greater then those who came to Europe, living on social help, contributing nothing to societies, expect from me to do a full time job so they can do nothing. Europe must find a way to say goodbye to immigrants who already came (give them as much money as possible and send them home to contribute something there if they couldn't here, their homeland economy will boom and it is a win-win situation) and prevent those who are on the very borders.

Europe fought for almost 10 centuries not to be what it became today.

[Skerdilaid]

so what, they compiled what was known then they built on it. That's how things go in pretty much every field.

But then they stagnated because of their backward ways, anyways, I got a bigger fish to fry then talk about religions. ..

[Skerdilaid]

I totally oppose immigration, even among fellow Europeans. I think it is wrong. And don't get me wrong, but number of immigrants who succeed in USA is far greater then those who came to Europe, living on social help, contributing nothing to societies, expect from me to do a full time job so they can do nothing. Europe must find a way to say goodbye to immigrants who already came (give them as much money as possible and send them home to contribute something there if they couldn't here, their homeland economy will boom and it is a win-win situation) and prevent those who are on the very borders.

Europe fought for almost 10 centuries not to be what it became today.

Every expanding culture is going to attract new comers and expand in new territories. This is the way empires are build, and trust me these big empires need and in some cases rely on these new comers, so no matter what some nuts say in Internet the head of the states or the policy makers are going to work as much as they can to integrate these new comers. This sucks in terms of preserving your culture and your true identity, but it is how it is.

[Skerdilaid]

Organ tracking:picard2: Fucking dumb Alpinid cunt!

[Kastrioti1443]

Organ tracking:picard2: Fucking dumb Subnordid cunt!


Fixed for you, lol.

Btw i just killed a dog and got it's leaver to sell it for 500 dollars to a gypsy who lives near my house.

[alb0zfinest]

I'm a member of the board for a far longer time than you, and there have been Albanian members who defended Muslim influence in Albania/Elsewhere or the venomous cult of Islam as a whole. There were other Albanians, granted, but one side doesn't make up for the other side. Tonsor e.g. was one of the better Albanians even when we had our disagreements.

The point is that Kosovo can only operate as an outpost of degenerate EU politics. It was created by EU and is subsidied by EU. The flag of Kosovo uses the same colors and has same style as the official EU flag, it looks awful! :picard2: Parts of my taxpayer money actually goes to Kosovo to make it at least work for another day. Kosovo couldn't exist without our money, without 'our' heavy support and heavy financial burdens. It's a failed state kept alive by others. And it's a place of criminal circles, Albanian Mafia and other horrible business like Organ trafficking. The Organ trafficking business in Europe is ruled by Albanian people.

Are all Kosovo Albanians criminals? No. But the clanish structure and the honor codex of Albanian people makes it difficult to arrest criminals as the clans and the families cover their own 'bad sheeps' till the last drop of their own blood. I've nothing against 'honor' and hell, I'd like us Central Europeans to have more guts again, but a conception of honor is ill-conceptioned when it protects and shelters criminals.


Uhm, so the regular outburts of violence in Kosovo which have to be watched by international millitary troops are all fiction? :rolleyes2:


There're about 500.000 Albanians+Kosovars in Germany, and then there are Albanians with German or Austrian citizenship. You know well enough that the numbers are way higher than 'just' some 15.000 Albanians in Austria. Vienna alone has about up to 10.000 Albanians!


Oh my god, that's utter nonsense. Do you actually believe what you write?

:033102st:

Maybe I've been a bit too harsh on Albanian people and I'll put my words like that now: I don't hate Albanian people or Albanian culture. No one in Central Europe knows about 'Gheg Highlanders' but I like the spirit to defend the own mountains/lands to the bones and to reject foreign influence. I can support that.:) But I don't like Albanian structures, clans or influence in MY countries! Albanian clans are famous in Germany for their criminal record.

That I've invested about 15 minutes to respond to your reply should tell you that I don't hate you with a flaming heart because true enemies aren't worth that time.


I know what Catholicism has done to and for Europe, but I equally appreciate the manifold heathen roots of Catholicism. Catholicism has adopted some heathen rituals and celebrations. You've yet to read a negative post about Germanic, Celtic or Slavic heathendom from my side! I have never written a negative post about European heathens. I respect them and I'm interested in their history, views and rituals. I recognize that at one time in history, parts of my family were heathens, too.

My hate is on Muslims and Islam, and I'm loyal to my hate because I have good personal, historical, ideological, religious, contemporary and social reasons.



Nothing new, there're even vintage poetries about the neverending turmoil on the Balkans...:cool:

http://www.silyrik.de/snips/images/202832604.jpg
:picard1:
Where do you get all this big aid nonsense? You know that the aid to kosovo was only 71 million right (http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/instruments/funding-by-country/kosovo/index_en.htm)[/url]? and with a budget of 6.5 billion (nominal with 12billion PPP) this aid is practically nothing. Most of the money that was given in aid actually went for things like the NATO troops stationed there which doesn't benefit Kosovar citizens but rather NATO to maintain its military base in Kosovo. Its really retarded to say it couldn't function without aid from other countries, when the aid from other countries is practically non existent, and even if it was cut off it would practically have no impact. Countries like Croatia for instance just received millions of dollars from the e.u to improve infrastructure and other things before it enters the e.u, PLENTY of other countries both in the e.u and not in the e.u get financial support, what Kosovo gets is quite literally nothing compared to what others get.

An accusation made by dick marty, and suddenly we rule the organ trafficking business? Seriously its retarded comments like that, that I don't know why i waste my time responding to you.

[mourtsouflos]

Rennaisance came about when constantinople fell to crusaders and recovered much of the lost writings and culture, which were originally from europe.

The "lost" Greek writings had been preserved and studied within the Greek-speaking (Hellenistic, Greek-Roman, Byzantine) world until the 15th century. So they had only been lost to the West (which is not were they were originally from). Also the crusaders didn't give a shit about ancient Greece. They were actually responsible for the loss of beautiful Greek art:

http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2013/12/14/melting-down-the-statues-in-constantinople-in-1204

Greek literature was introduced to the West about two centuries later by Greek scholars of the time and their Italian students:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Chrysoloras

[Peyrol]

We're always talking about Sicily or Albania.

...How's gone down the quality of this board...

[alb0zfinest]

We're always talking about Sicily or Albania.

...How's gone down the quality of this board...

Should I apologize for other people mentioning us?

[Leliana]

Organ tracking:picard2: Fucking dumb Alpinid cunt!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Kosovo

Shut up. And throw your cheap insults up your filthy, swarthy 'Gheg' ass.

[Kiyant]

Funny how this Thread turned out

[Also]

I know little about Leliana, she looks nice and fiery but angry. I like that she seems to take religion seriously.

[Peyrol]

She totally reflect this spirit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=784KEIiga40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06643umEJZg

[Loki]

Funny how this Thread turned out

Yeah, it's delivering :D

[iNird]

I'm a member of the board for a far longer time than you, and there have been Albanian members who defended Muslim influence in Albania/Elsewhere or the venomous cult of Islam as a whole. There were other Albanians, granted, but one side doesn't make up for the other side. Tonsor e.g. was one of the better Albanians even when we had our disagreements.

The point is that Kosovo can only operate as an outpost of degenerate EU politics. It was created by EU and is subsidied by EU. The flag of Kosovo uses the same colors and has same style as the official EU flag, it looks awful! :picard2: Parts of my taxpayer money actually goes to Kosovo to make it at least work for another day. Kosovo couldn't exist without our money, without 'our' heavy support and heavy financial burdens. It's a failed state kept alive by others. And it's a place of criminal circles, Albanian Mafia and other horrible business like Organ trafficking. The Organ trafficking business in Europe is ruled by Albanian people.

Are all Kosovo Albanians criminals? No. But the clanish structure and the honor codex of Albanian people makes it difficult to arrest criminals as the clans and the families cover their own 'bad sheeps' till the last drop of their own blood. I've nothing against 'honor' and hell, I'd like us Central Europeans to have more guts again, but a conception of honor is ill-conceptioned when it protects and shelters criminals.


Uhm, so the regular outburts of violence in Kosovo which have to be watched by international millitary troops are all fiction? :rolleyes2:


There're about 500.000 Albanians+Kosovars in Germany, and then there are Albanians with German or Austrian citizenship. You know well enough that the numbers are way higher than 'just' some 15.000 Albanians in Austria. Vienna alone has about up to 10.000 Albanians!


Oh my god, that's utter nonsense. Do you actually believe what you write?

:033102st:

Maybe I've been a bit too harsh on Albanian people and I'll put my words like that now: I don't hate Albanian people or Albanian culture. No one in Central Europe knows about 'Gheg Highlanders' but I like the spirit to defend the own mountains/lands to the bones and to reject foreign influence. I can support that.:) But I don't like Albanian structures, clans or influence in MY countries! Albanian clans are famous in Germany for their criminal record.

That I've invested about 15 minutes to respond to your reply should tell you that I don't hate you with a flaming heart because true enemies aren't worth that time.


I know what Catholicism has done to and for Europe, but I equally appreciate the manifold heathen roots of Catholicism. Catholicism has adopted some heathen rituals and celebrations. You've yet to read a negative post about Germanic, Celtic or Slavic heathendom from my side! I have never written a negative post about European heathens. I respect them and I'm interested in their history, views and rituals. I recognize that at one time in history, parts of my family were heathens, too.

My hate is on Muslims and Islam, and I'm loyal to my hate because I have good personal, historical, ideological, religious, contemporary and social reasons.



Nothing new, there're even vintage poetries about the neverending turmoil on the Balkans...:cool:

http://www.silyrik.de/snips/images/202832604.jpg

And if it wasn't for American and it's allies Germany would have been taken by Russia and you would have been some backwards communist state ala East Germany. You speak of "tax dollars" but ignore your own past of receiving American funds form of loans and grants after WW2.

Even today Germany is home to one of the largest American bases which allows you to subsidize your budget defense and allows your state to allocate those resources to provide you great social benefits. Going by that logic, my tax dollars, seeing that I am a United States citizens and pay a fair share of my taxes, are being used to provide you free healthcare, cheap education and so forth.

[Skerdilaid]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Kosovo

Shut up. And throw your cheap insults up your filthy, swarthy 'Gheg' ass.
You are a result of a Slavic rape, Russian soldiers ring a bell! No way in hell can a German be this fucking thick.....Wiki article is based on mostly farts without any concrete proof, plus you don't seem to understand what does organ trafficking mean.

I bett your Alpinid ass is a lot swarthier then my Gheg ass.

[iNird]

I didn't even realize how little Germany spends on their defense budget, they spend around 1.3% while the world average is 2.5%.

If Germany's GDP is 3.4 trillion and if Germany's defense budget wasn't subsidized by the United States and we assume that it had to spend 2.5% of its GDP for it's military (ie France) then Germany would have to spend an addition 41 billion or so.

So let's put that in perspective you receive billions in subsidies from the United States. 41 billion is more than double the GDP of Albania and Kosovo GDP combined.

And you want to speak of tax dollars?

:rolleyes:

[Arianiti]

And then there's the problem of criminal (Kosovo)-Albanians in Germany/Austria and the board members who say that isn't any problem which is a blatant lie. :mad: And I'm not excusing myself for my opinion that I think that Kosovo is a failed state, a state that shouldn't exist and shall be a part of Serbia instead. If you're butt-hurt about it then so be it, I'm not fishing for compliments from all sides and factions.

I'm not an enemy of Albania or Albanian people in contrast to fully Muslim countries which I loath with a burning heart, but I'd prefer your people to stay within your borders. Defend your Gheg Highlands and don't flood our cities. Gheg Highlanders belong to the Gheg Highlands, whatever Gheg Highlanderism is supposed to be. And Germany/Austria are NOT the Gheg Highlands...

Why you lie. Germans living and working here in Kosova say that Albanians are one of the best immigration groups in Germany. Most of them are there for decades and have built proper lives. They have children now that are born there, working and studying. Those that migrated during 90ties because of the war with Serbia are mostly back.

Throughout history people have migrated to different countries and places for better life, so take it easy. You know we have a huge migration of people to America and Australia Continents only some centuries ago eg. :)

P.S. When Albanians were Christians you didn't even hear of it or know what it is.

[Minesweeper]

Actually that's not true. There are plenty of immigrant groups that don't achieve that or even come close to it. And if they do it takes them several generations.
Albanians have integrated to U.S society, how else do you expect them to integrate?

For example, what groups failed to integrate?

[Loki]

You are a result of a Slavic rape,

C'mon, show some decency mate.

[Loki]

I didn't even realize how little Germany spends on their defense budget, they spend around 1.3% while the world average is 2.5%.


Germany has enough money to easily build up a formidable military in a decade or two. But for now, it concentrates on ruling and conquering Europe via money. Clever move.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Can't see any reason why has this thread turned into Albanian subject, OP shouldn't make threads like these in the first place and some shouldn't mention our people either...It was wrong and childish since the beginning to mention or involve in debate with a person who share more hate rather respect for the people.

[MissProvocateur]

I agree with a lot of what Leliana says, actually. Obviously, my views aren't as extreme, but I can understand her ideas. She's very honest and strong-willed. One of the few members here with a backbone. Few stand up for what they truly believe in. Also, she knows Dragon Age. And that already makes her cool in my book. :P

[iNird]

Germany has enough money to easily build up a formidable military in a decade or two. But for now, it concentrates on ruling and conquering Europe via money. Clever move.

There's no need for them to build up a formidable military if the United States provide them military bases and subsidizes their costs. America has been subsidizing their military defense since WWII and if the amount of subsidies were totaled in today's dollars they could be close to a trillion. They can use those resources and allocate them elsewhere. Same with Japan. It's a great luxury to have.

[Raikaswinþs]

I agree with very little of what Leliana says yet I consider her one of the (very, very few) good posters.She's from another (Aprician) time, when the board counted with a good list of very good posters, and the ok posters outnumbered the trolls. I usually disagree with German points of view, who are usually rather monolithic and very perspective-limited. But I guess that it is a more effective way forward than the a-room-with-4-people-and-8-opinions that's Spain, Poland ad even Scotland which often proves just impossible to agree on anything with anyone.

[Arianiti]

Germans are good people, we have good experience with them, I doubt Leliana is one, :lol: For example Austria was one of the main supporters when Albania state was created, together with President Wilson of US.

I do appreciate her by the way, until she starts to kill people and everyone who stands on her way. :P

[Skerdilaid]

C'mon, show some decency mate.

If she continues to spread Slavic propaganda to stain the image of my people, then she would be called what she is. If she comes with a concrete proof that's what we are then I will fully agree with her!

[Stefan_Dusan]

There's no need for them to build up a formidable military if the United States provide them military bases and subsidizes their costs. America has been subsidizing their military defense since WWII and if the amount of subsidies were totaled in today's dollars they could be close to a trillion. They can use those resources and allocate them elsewhere. Same with Japan. It's a great luxury to have.

The only use a military would be for Germany is if she planned on doing "nation-building" adventures in other countries. At this point, no country will invade Germany and everyone knows it.

[LightHouse89]

who the fuck is she? I hate United States! I am pro Confederate States and putting blacks into the cotton fields again where they are of better use. That is traditional American :thumb001: we do not need these foreign religions here just no more leftists in power or our government. [put them in the cotton fields too].

[LightHouse89]

The only use a military would be for Germany is if she planned on doing "nation-building" adventures in other countries. At this point, no country will invade Germany and everyone knows it.

if america disintegrates then western europe is fucked. I kind of wish this would happen western europeans are pussies.

[alb0zfinest]

who the fuck is she? I hate United States! I am pro Confederate States and putting blacks into the cotton fields again where they are of better use. That is traditional American :thumb001: we do not need these foreign religions here just no more leftists in power or our government. [put them in the cotton fields too].

Wth I knew you were conservative, but to this extent?

[iNird]

The only use a military would be for Germany is if she planned on doing "nation-building" adventures in other countries. At this point, no country will invade Germany and everyone knows it.

Well UK and France spends 2.5% of their GDP for military (compared to Germany's 1.3%) and they are comparable in terms of population and economy and if you go under the rationale no country will invade Germany then I think France and UK are safe as well. Granted there are countries that spend as a percentage of GDP less than Germany in Europe. I don't claim to be a military expert and know the fine details on why one country spends more than another but the fact that Germany is home to one of the biggest American bases surely has an effect on their military defense budget. My point to play devil's advocate to Leliana. I could make the case my tax dollars are supporting her cheap education, free healthcare and other social programs using her logic.

[Stefan_Dusan]

if america disintegrates then western europe is fucked. I kind of wish this would happen western europeans are pussies.

If American disintegrates Germany will develop nuclear weapons which American is preventing her from doing. America has in a way vassalized Germany, and most Germans seek independence from USA, which is why they try to dominate the EU.

[Raikaswinþs]

Germans are good people,... For example Austria was one of the main supporters when Albania state was created, together with President Wilson of US.

I do appreciate her by the way, until she starts to kill people and everyone who stands on her way. :P

Austria is a different country to Germany, even if they are very closely related, as Spanairds are to Portuguese or Serbs are to Croats. Nevertheless, do not count what a gobernment supports to what its citizens actually believe. Most things aren't voted for in Europe, which is politically driven by bureaucracy , financial and geopolitical interests completely different to those of the citizens they are there to serve.

[alb0zfinest]

For example, what groups failed to integrate?

Well many south American and central American groups still have not integrated (not to mention some asian and African minorities), or even balkan. Take Romanians for instance, many immigrated to the U.S at the end of the 19th century yet the ones identifying themselves as Romanians have in general pretty low incomes compared to the average.

[Minesweeper]

Well many south American and central American groups still have not integrated (not to mention some asian and African minorities), or even balkan. Take Romanians for instance, many immigrated to the U.S at the end of the 19th century yet the ones identifying themselves as Romanians have in general pretty low incomes compared to the average.

Oh, I meant Europeans. I see I haven't been precise, my bad. So you say that Romanians are worst from Balkan peoples? I can't think of single reason for that.

[Peyrol]

Germany is the best european country (in las years); that's a FACT not an opinion.

France sucks (Ile-De-France is like a giant cancer that dry out all the rest of the country), Italy sucks (at least the politicians and the recent trend about immigration), UK is too liberal, etc.

[alb0zfinest]

Oh, I meant Europeans. I see I haven't been precise, my bad. So you say that Romanians are worst from Balkan peoples? I can't think of single reason for that.

Like I said it depends on what states they moved to. Some states are welcoming of immigrants or aren't too harsh on them. While other more conservative states do the contrary. We also have to consider what sort of immigrants come from each country, and how representative they are of the over all population of that country, and of course as I have mentioned many times in my previous comments if they move to wealthy states or dirt poor states (If for instance they move to a poorer state its much harder for them to move up the pyramid). I don't know about all Balkan minority groups in the U.S so I can't answer that question, I was just trying to point out to you its not as you say. Integrating into U.S society works differently than how you imagine it, and there are still plenty of immigrant groups that haven't integrated.

Anyways point is Albanians are well integrated, and quite a few have actually already been assimilated which is either a good or bad thing depending on the perspective.

[Kastrioti1443]

We're always talking about Sicily or Albania.

...How's gone down the quality of this board...

I have a better idea. Let's talk about you complaining here in internet how the swarthy Sicilians and Calabrians have over taken the North Italy and are penetrating the white northern italian women and how so much less indigenous northern italy has become, because mate, this what you all say in this forum.

I am aware that this forum functions like an asylum for people who can not do anything in real life to change the situations they brag about here.

[Peyrol]

I have a better idea. Let's talk about you complaining here in internet how the swarthy Sicilians and Calabrians have over taken the North Italy and are penetrating the white northern italian women and how so much less indigenous northern italy has become, because mate, this what you all say in this forum.

I am aware that this forum functions like an asylum for people who can not do anything in real life to change the situations they brag about here.

I'm repeating this as a mantra because people here have hard times to understand and remember.

[LightHouse89]

Wth I knew you were conservative, but to this extent?

Well I am being silly by saying cotton fields but african americans found breaking the law and in prison should be forced to work them. why waste tax payer money when they can be useful I figure. They cause alot of trouble here and the Feds always look out for them/cover up for them [republicans and democrats].

I figure it isnt a bad idea or ship them back to their original homelands in western africa. We would take south african whites here and africa can have african americans. I think thats an appropriate exchange. :cool: I am pretty conservative.

[LightHouse89]

Germany is the best european country (in las years); that's a FACT not an opinion.

France sucks (Ile-De-France is like a giant cancer that dry out all the rest of the country), Italy sucks (at least the politicians and the recent trend about immigration), UK is too liberal, etc.

All of Europe is Gay. I did not go to one part of Europe thus far and not run into masses of liberals. Its like New England but everywhere! Over there. I will say some places in Germany and Switzerland were nice but my experience with the rest of Europe was not wonderful. I dont see the big hype in living in Europe its like a giant cluster fuck of people and liberals. I would go insane if I lived there.

[LightHouse89]

If American disintegrates Germany will develop nuclear weapons which American is preventing her from doing. America has in a way vassalized Germany, and most Germans seek independence from USA, which is why they try to dominate the EU.

True. It would be nice if Germany had thier own thing going on. I would mind. Infact if Nato disintegrated I wouldnt care at all. We, Americans waste so much on the UN [which is by far the most useless organization in the world], and Nato. Our treasury prints up our money but if we ever had to show for it we would be in trouble. Anyway I wouldnt mind as foreign policy and issues here are no longer taken seriously and people do not care much about being the world Police anymore.

[Arianiti]

Austria is a different country to Germany, even if they are very closely related, as Spanairds are to Portuguese or Serbs are to Croats. Nevertheless, do not count what a gobernment supports to what its citizens actually believe. Most things aren't voted for in Europe, which is politically driven by bureaucracy , financial and geopolitical interests completely different to those of the citizens they are there to serve.

No, they are similar to Kosova and Albania. One nation/ethnicity, two states, and divided by others unjustly in different historical periods.

Individuals can have their opinions, what matters is politics a state runs towards others. That's what counts.

Croatia and Serbia have been enemies throughout history.

[legolasbozo]

İf leilana would be living in middle east, she would be cutting someone head off, or as willingly fucking with jihadist pricks and get pregnant. She was born and raised in germany, so her infected mindset is more universal and progressive than her counterprants. She is fundamentalist, not "defending western values" but her habitat and where she lives dont let her starting barbaric actions. She is remnant a disease that should extinguish with salafi muslims. She is a threat for humanity.

[Leliana]

İf leilana would be living in middle east, she would be cutting someone head off, or as willingly fucking with jihadist pricks and get pregnant. She was born and raised in germany, so her infected mindset is more universal and progressive than her counterprants. She is fundamentalist, not "defending western values" but her habitat and where she lives dont let her starting barbaric actions. She is remnant a disease that should extinguish with salafi muslims. She is a threat for humanity.

:loco: :crazy:

You must be very afraid of me and my internal strength and convictions, lousy Turk. But my compagnon 'likes' Turks: My spiked mace. :laugh:

http://i62.tinypic.com/a5dr1t.jpg

[Sigurd]

İf leilana would be living in middle east, she would be cutting someone head off, or as willingly fucking with jihadist pricks and get pregnant.

In all honesty, I think you're jealous that your sorry arse doesn't get to roll in the mud with classy German women like her. I mean seriously, most of your ilk are insecure enough to think your less-than-pretty women need to be veiled like Nazgûl lest someone as much as look at them. :wink:

[denz]

Due to my respect to your signature, "No tolerance for Muslims and Islam. For our home, our culture, our countries and our children." ...

That is what shown

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That is my imaginary ...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-05DfuERe0x8/UZSpuozuEPI/AAAAAAAALwc/u4KjgWiDIYg/s1600/tammy2.jpg

[LightHouse89]

In all honesty, I think you're jealous that your sorry arse doesn't get to roll in the mud with classy German women like her. I mean seriously, most of your ilk are insecure enough to think your less-than-pretty women need to be veiled like Nazgûl lest someone as much as look at them. :wink:

German and Dutch women are pretty hot.....a shame though that Western Europe will be apart of the African continent soon. How bad is immigration from Africa? In America is pretty bad not to mention the Brown take over out west.

[Teyrn]

:loco: :crazy:

You must be very afraid of me and my internal strength and convictions, lousy Turk. But my compagnon 'likes' Turks: My spiked mace. :laugh:

http://i62.tinypic.com/a5dr1t.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111128444/3730631-vladtepesaward.jpg

Dracula was an expert in dealing with Turks and that he was a Catholic too is an added bonus. My my parents lived in your country back in the 1970s the Turks used to harass the wives of U.S. military personnel and, as I've been told, a favorite hobby of vengeful American soldiers was to kick the crap out of Turks for this. :D

A sad violin plays for outraged Turks :boohoo:

[Leliana]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111128444/3730631-vladtepesaward.jpg

Dracula was an expert in dealing with Turks and that he was a Catholic too is an added bonus. My my parents lived in your country back in the 1970s the Turks used to harass the wives of U.S. military personnel and, as I've been told, a favorite hobby of vengeful American soldiers was to kick the crap out of Turks for this. :D

A sad violin plays for outraged Turks :boohoo:

You're spot on, and it as a fact of European history that it were Catholics who defended our homes and countries over and over again. Let's think of Prince Eugen, Jan Sobieski, Graf Rüdiger von Sterhemberg, Johann Hunyadi ands many else who led campaigns to defend Europe and re-take occupied territories like the Balkan.

I can't think of any combat where Protestants were significantly involved in a decisive battle against Muslim expansive campaings. No one! All Crusaders or Templars where Catholics. And now Protestant surrending and accepting ethics take over Europe politics which allows Muslims to settle in our lands and change our culture and population step by step. That's not acceptable, and many anti-Muslim parties arise in several European countries. A sign of hope! :)

[MissProvocateur]

How very annoying. One cannot start a nice thread appreciatig another member for their qualities without it turning into some childish war. If you don't like her, then simply get out of this thread.

[LightHouse89]

I blame christians for bringing non whites in my country and making them politicians. Catholics and Protestants are to blame. The only group of Christians that were not apart of it was christian identity but I dislike their british-israeli views.... I hate catholics in America and lutherans....bastards should be hanged for making america and secular egilatarian crap hole.

[Teyrn]

You're spot on, and it as a fact of European history that it were Catholics who defended our homes and countries over and over again. Let's think of Prince Eugen, Jan Sobieski, Graf Rüdiger von Sterhemberg, Johann Hunyadi ands many else who led campaigns to defend Europe and re-take occupied territories like the Balkan.


The last Roman Emperor of Constantinople died in communion with the Holy See:

http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Byzantium/Person/en/ConstantineXI.html


I can't think of any combat where Protestants were significantly involved in a decisive battle against Muslim expansive campaings. No one! All Crusaders or Templars where Catholics. And now Protestant surrending and accepting ethics take over Europe politics which allows Muslims to settle in our lands and change our culture and population step by step. That's not acceptable, and many anti-Muslim parties arise in several European countries. A sign of hope! :)

Protestants were too busy burning each other and Catholics at the stake like our friend Calvin died to the hapless Servetus- or were simply in league with the Turks against Catholics.

There are some pathetic examples of cooperation between Protestants and Muslims in this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_and_Islam

[denz]

The last Roman Emperor of Constantinople died in communion with the Holy See:

Protestants were too busy burning each other and Catholics at the stake like our friend Calvin died to the hapless Servetus- or were simply in league with the Turks against Catholics.

There are some pathetic examples of cooperation between Protestants and Muslims in this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_and_Islam

They were not burning each other, Catholics were doing that, by the way, may be you can ask how to take a lyrica (pregalayn) for anxiety disorder. Any way, corporate for anti immigration campaign, none of Turk want to make you tremble, we don't care ...

[Teyrn]

They were not burning each other, Catholics were doing that, by the way, may be you can ask how to take a lyrica (pregalayn) for anxiety disorder. Any way, corporate for anti immigration campaign, none of Turk want to make you tremble, we don't care ...

Do you actually know what it took for someone to get executed according to the actual methods used by the Catholic inquisitors as compared to what profane popular culture says they were? Execution was the extreme punishment; far more common was penance of some kind.

The body counts gained by Protestant executions of "witches," Catholics, etc. is vastly greater.

Keep reading your secular-, liberal-, jewish- derived historical narratives and you'll soon arrive at the conclusion that the moon is indeed made of cheese. :crazy:

[denz]

Do you actually know what it took for someone to get executed according to the actual methods used by the Catholic inquisitors as compared to what profane popular culture says they were? Execution was the extreme punishment; far more common was penance of some kind.

The body counts gained by Protestant executions of "witches," Catholics, etc. is vastly greater.

Keep reading your secular-, liberal-, jewish- derived historical narratives and you'll soon arrive at the conclusion that the moon is indeed made of cheese. :crazy:

I m quite sure that the last 4 century progressive way of what Europe leaded or gained that from witch hunters you described. Besides, Catholics were haunting their ideology eventually failed. Narration of that continent is because of your mesmerized historians not mine.

Anyway, i will not derail topic that appreciate the idea of plague, everybody is free for that ... I m out ...

[LightHouse89]

But Leliana Islam is the fastest growing religion in Germany and Western Europe. I guess Catholicism is dead.....well you can thank Pedophile priests for that.

[Also]

I guess Catholicism is dead.....well you can thank Pedophile priests for that.

Catholicism is not dead and won't die, have you counted the catholics? Pedophile priests are very rare but because the media focus on the Church and people's predisposition to hate the Catholic Church it makes it seems like something much bigger.

[LightHouse89]

Catholicism is not dead and won't die, have you counted the catholics? Pedophile priests are very rare but because the media focus on the Church and people's predisposition to hate the Catholic Church it makes it seems like something much bigger.

I detest the Church in America. I am glad in New England it is dead. More Catholic churches have closed here. Now Christian Identity can move in. White Power!

[Teyrn]

Catholicism is not dead and won't die, have you counted the catholics? Pedophile priests are very rare but because the media focus on the Church and people's predisposition to hate the Catholic Church it makes it seems like something much bigger.

The sad truth is is that the post-conciliar Vatican II Church has lowered the qualifications for the clergy in my opinion, hence you essentially have some very questionable men becoming members of the priesthood. A pity the Inquisition's offices are no longer as active.

One only ever hears of Catholics pedos/pederasts but never the Protestant (or Islamic or Jewish) child-molesters and one never hears of, say, things like this:

Pope Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests for child abuse

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/pope-benedict-defrocked-400-priests-child-abuse

:rolleyes:

It always comes down to you Catholics support <child-molesters> (or popery, idolatry or whichever is the current favorite term of the cretins).

[Also]

The sad truth is is that the post-conciliar Vatican II Church has lowered the qualifications for the clergy in my opinion, hence you essentially have some very questionable men becoming members of the priesthood. A pity the Inquisition's offices are no longer as active.

One only ever hears of Catholics pedos/pederasts but never the Protestant (or Islamic or Jewish) child-molesters and one never hears of, say, things like this:

Pope Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests for child abuse

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/pope-benedict-defrocked-400-priests-child-abuse

:rolleyes:

It always comes down to you Catholics support <child-molesters> (or popery, idolatry or whichever is the current favotite term of the cretins).

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?118898-Priests-Commit-No-More-Abuse-Than-Other-Males

[Kamal900]

I detest the Church in America. I am glad in New England it is dead. More Catholic churches have closed here. Now Christian Identity can move in. White Power!

Christian identity? you mean the movement that was founded by the murderer, William Fink? Those CI nutcases claim that instead of the Jews being the chosen people of god and the non-Jews(the goyim) are nothing but cattle and inferior to Jews, they replace words from "Jews" to "Whites" and "Gentiles" to "non-Whites". They claim that white people are chosen people of god, and they believe that killing, subjecting and exploiting non-Whites is justified(same way how Jews believe in that). Same shit, different pile.

[LightHouse89]

The Catholics and Lutherans have brought third worlders here. Now New England is a crap hole swamped with third worlders. Catholics call this social justice and Lutherans call it humane. Both are traitors to me.

[LightHouse89]

Christian identity? you mean the movement that was founded by the murderer, William Fink? Those CI nutcases claim that instead of the Jews being the chosen people of god and the non-Jews(the goyim) are nothing but cattle and inferior to Jews, they replace words from "Jews" to "Whites" and "Gentiles" to "non-Whites". They claim that white people are chosen people of god, and they believe that killing, subjecting and exploiting non-Whites is justified(same way how Jews believe in that). Same shit, different pile.

They are nut cases but better than Catholics or Lutherans or other spin offs. They can easily be controleld I just tune out their nonsense about white people being the real Jews. That to me is a retarded concept and fake history. I think they should be transplanted back into the South here though.... In the North East they woudltn fare so well its the most atheist region of America so we would need more craftier people than that. I totally support the deportation of Catholics and Liberal Protestants, Jews and other monotheists that are a potential threat. I would deport all of them to Candyfornia where they can set up their Sodom and Gomorrah there LOL.

[Kamal900]

They are nut cases but better than Catholics or Lutherans or other spin offs. They can easily be controleld I just tune out their nonsense about white people being the real Jews. That to me is a retarded concept and fake history. I think they should be transplanted back into the South here though.... In the North East they woudltn fare so well its the most atheist region of America so we would need more craftier people than that. I totally support the deportation of Catholics and Liberal Protestants, Jews and other monotheists that are a potential threat. I would deport all of them to Candyfornia where they can set up their Sodom and Gomorrah there LOL.

Its not their beliefs im against, its their idealogy. Its nothing but a white version of Judaisim that sees non-Whites as inferior or subhuman and that whites have the divine right to genocide and invade other people's lands and countries. It reminded me a lot to people like William Pierce, who while condemning Jews for trying to take over the world and start talking about the protocols of the learned elders of zion and was against that, but then later in his other radio podcast, he was gloating about how whites ruled the world and made countries like china and india as economic slave colonies to europe. How can a man like him have any sort of credibility when he condemns other supremacists of their actions when he himself is a supremacist? thats hypocrisy, double standards. The same thing goes to these CI freaks.

[legolasbozo]

:loco: :crazy:

You must be very afraid of me and my internal strength and convictions, lousy Turk. But my compagnon 'likes' Turks: My spiked mace. :laugh:

http://i62.tinypic.com/a5dr1t.jpg

Yeah, i really afraid of your delusions because i m well aware how your mindset did it cost to humanity. İ m %100 sure if you got a chance, you would be worse than hitler, be honest and tell what's in your head about turks.

salafi terrorist is less danger than you, because their misery and ignorance could be changed with education, but you are educated , intellectual lunatic you can manipulate and hypnotize people.

[LightHouse89]

Its not their beliefs im against, its their idealogy. Its nothing but a white version of Judaisim that sees non-Whites as inferior or subhuman and that whites have the divine right to genocide and invade other people's lands and countries. It reminded me a lot to people like William Pierce, who while condemning Jews for trying to take over the world and start talking about the protocols of the learned elders of zion and was against that, but then later in his other radio podcast, he was gloating about how whites ruled the world and made countries like china and india as economic slave colonies to europe. How can a man like him have any sort of credibility when he condemns other supremacists of their actions when he himself is a supremacist? thats hypocrisy, double standards. The same thing goes to these CI freaks.

True I do not idolize them and they are not really that popular here. David Lane's WOTANists and David Duke followers are more popular. William Pierce is somewhat but not entriely popular, there is another guy the 'Creationists' movements which beleives in the World Church of the Creator [some retarded thing liek that], I dont like thme either. In America WN is more secular. Generally we are all anti-interventionist and by this I mean we do not want a large foreign policy in the world....because after all this is why the world wants to take a shit on us over. If anything we want America to return to what is was in the early 1900s.... before this place became somewhat imperialistic. I am not a big fan of any group of organize WNs but I must say the Catholics and Lutherans [both immigrants groups here] ruined where I live and invited all of South America to live where I live and its ruined my state. Its a slime pit now.... Its even worse out west.

I do not believe in Colonialism but I certianly do not agree with what is happening where I live. There is nothing really being done to stop it either. I think its a plot by Rome and the Catholic church to over run us to be used as their Catholic super power to conquer other religions etc..... I hate the Catholic church.

[LightHouse89]

Yeah, i really afraid of your delusions because i m well aware how your mindset did it cost to humanity. İ m %100 sure if you got a chance, you would be worse than hitler, be honest and tell what's in your head about turks.

salafi terrorist is less danger than you, because their misery and ignorance could be changed with education, but you are educated , intellectual lunatic you can manipulate and hypnotize people.

you should be put on a ship back to africa! take your rap music with you :p

[Kamal900]

True I do not idolize them and they are not really that popular here. David Lane's WOTANists and David Duke followers are more popular. William Pierce is somewhat but not entriely popular, there is another guy the 'Creationists' movements which beleives in the World Church of the Creator [some retarded thing liek that], I dont like thme either. In America WN is more secular. Generally we are all anti-interventionist and by this I mean we do not want a large foreign policy in the world....because after all this is why the world wants to take a shit on us over. If anything we want America to return to what is was in the early 1900s.... before this place became somewhat imperialistic. I am not a big fan of any group of organize WNs but I must say the Catholics and Lutherans [both immigrants groups here] ruined where I live and invited all of South America to live where I live and its ruined my state. Its a slime pit now.... Its even worse out west.

I do not believe in Colonialism but I certianly do not agree with what is happening where I live. There is nothing really being done to stop it either. I think its a plot by Rome and the Catholic church to over run us to be used as their Catholic super power to conquer other religions etc..... I hate the Catholic church.

Thats why i greatly respect people like David Duke, who believe that every people on earth have the right to live and self preservation, including his own, which i support that. But there are WNs want more extreme than that. Hell, they believe that Hitler was a shill because they condemn him of being too soft or too moderate, and that he should have killed all Jews and conquer the world for the white race. Do you really think that if Hitler was alive would he see the modern neo-Nazis as his fellow comrades? No, they're nothing but freaks love to play dress up and start committing criminal activities like any other gang or mafia. Again, colonialism or slavery isnt a white thing which liberals like to portray it as. For thousands of years, people from one country dominated other indigenous peoples and their lands through supremacy. Like how the Romans conquered Gaul and killing over 1,000,000 or 25 percent of the native Gaulish men, women and children, and yet they are called "barbarians" when the romans themselves are the ones doing these barbaric killings of innocent peoples, or how the chinese conquered southern china and killing and assimilating the native populace through supremacy? Modern white americans shouldn't be condemned for what happened in the past, and people should see the story between the native americans and europeans with an even hand(or seeing both sides). People like william fink and other freak shows trying to demonstrate that they are the solution to the problems that whites are facing is nothing more than how the mafia would portray themselves as the beacon of hope to the poor italian immigrants in america.

[brazuca]

:loco: :crazy:

You must be very afraid of me and my internal strength and convictions, lousy Turk. But my compagnon 'likes' Turks: My spiked mace. :laugh:

http://i62.tinypic.com/a5dr1t.jpg

you is a religious fanatic?

[Leliana]

you is a religious fanatic?
I'm a traditional Catholic and think that some decisions of the II. Vaticane Concilliate were wrong. We need more self-esteem and steadfastness. Christianity is in the defensive in Europe, and that must change. Christianty is not about giving up everything. Indeed, I'd support a peaceful deportation of about 80 to 90% Muslims to their countries of origin.

[Ianus]

So you are a sedevacantist

[Teyrn]

So you are a sedevacantist

Sedevacantists border on heresy. Anyone who thinks those clowns are traditionalists is ill-informed. A better group to choose is the Society of Saint Pius X.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_St._Pius_X

Sedevacantists typically border on conspiracy theorist level of thought, i.e. all of the Popes after Pio XII have been antipopes, John XIII wasn't actually the Pope elected after Pio XII died and that the actual Pope (Cardinal Siri) was cheated, etc.

[Leliana]

So you are a sedevacantist
Not really.

[Styrian Mujo]

I think Leliana focuses too much on the religion of immigrants. Having Sicillian Catholic immigrants in your country is just as bad as having Turkish Muslims...any non-Germanic immigation into Germanic nations is negative furthermore you should not blame immigrants for being there but blame your goverment for letting them being in your country.

[Teyrn]

I think Leliana focuses too much on the religion of immigrants. Having Sicillian Catholic immigrants in your country is just as bad as having Turkish Muslims.

Maybe you'd like to live in Little Mogadishu or Little Istanbul then? She's correct in pointing out the importance of Christianity to Germany's identity as a nation.

[Styrian Mujo]

Maybe you'd like to live in Little Mogadishu or Little Istanbul then? She's correct in pointing out the importance of Christianity to Germany's identity as a nation.
She is Catholic therefore she shares her religion with Italians,Latin-Americans and other similar non-White non-Teutonic nations.

[Styrian Mujo]

Maybe you'd like to live in Little Mogadishu or Little Istanbul then? She's correct in pointing out the importance of Christianity to Germany's identity as a nation.
Are you stupid? Why would I want Germany to look like Turkey? Do you want Germany to look like Rome,Napels or even Palermo?

[Teyrn]

She is Catholic therefore she shares her religion with Italians,Latin-Americans and other similar non-White Teutonic nations.

And there're plenty of non-white Protestants these days, especially in the Third World. What's your point exactly- that Leliana wants to flood Germany with non-white Catholics? Okay- so you must want non-white prods around in droves too eh?

[Teyrn]

Are you stupid? Why would I want Germany to look like Turkey? Do you want Germany to look like Rome,Napels or even Palermo?

Are you missing a few digits from your IQ yourself? What mental paroxysm are you suffering from that Germans can't be Catholics? What the hell were then they before Martin Luther ever lurched into the light of history?

[Styrian Mujo]

And there're plenty of non-white Protestants these days, especially in the Third World. What's your point exactly- that Leliana wants to flood Germany with non-white Catholics? Okay- so you must want non-white prods around in droves too eh?
My point is that she foucuses too much on religion and haiting muslim immigrants rather than honoring her Germanic ancestors and emphasising perservation of Race and her Nation, religion especially the likes of internationalist corrupted Catholicism should be secondery thing or even irrelevant.

[Styrian Mujo]

Are you missing a few digits from your IQ yourself? What mental paroxysm are you suffering from that Germans can't be Catholics? What the hell were then they before Martin Luther ever lurched into the light of history?
They can be but when it comes to German nationalism Catholicism should be a secondary issue as it was in Hitler's Germany.

[Teyrn]

My point is that she foucuses too much on religion and haiting muslim immigrants rather than honoring her Germanic ancestors and emphasising perservation of Race and her Nation, religion especially the likes of internationalist corrupted Catholicism wich should be a secondery or even irrelevant.

What world do you live in where Catholicism is incompatible with being also being patriotic? :picard2:

[Teyrn]

They can be but when it comes to German nationalism Catholicism should be a secondary issue as it was in Hitler's Germany.

Oh yes the wonders of the "Third Reich."

http://codoh.com/sites/default/files/jhr-20-5-michaels4-l.jpg

[Unome]

I admire how Lelianna loves her mother country and is willing to defend Germania against the haters who want to destroy her culture, home, and family. :thumb001:

[Peyrol]

Funny how muslim jugoslavs and other middle eastern are gone butthurted for this thread...

[Teyrn]

Funny how muslim jugoslavs and other middle eastern are gone butthurted for this thread...

If a woman isn't docile and wearing a burlap sack over her head then muzzies don't like them. :p

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Funny how muslim jugoslavs and other middle eastern are gone butthurted for this thread...

White people are not allowed to existed, and if/when they are ever gone, they will be removed from history, if they get the chance.

[Teyrn]

White people are not allowed to existed, and if/when they are ever gone, they will be removed from history, if they get the chance.

A world without European-derived civilization to sustain the various savage and semi-savage races that now infest the West? Hm- I wonder what that'd look like?

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE5L2UxL2RldHJvaXQuOTY2OWYuanBnCnAJdG h1bWIJOTUweDUzNCMKZQlqcGc/1b353504/919/detroit.jpg

Like Deeeeetroit, Michigan- once one of the jewels of the American auto industry founded by Henry Ford.

Decades of progressive politics, anti-white race-baiting, etc. has largely depopulated the city of whites and left it a majority-black city.

[Styrian Mujo]

Funny how muslim jugoslavs and other middle eastern are gone butthurted for this thread...
Still better than being a Nordicist in denial.

[LightHouse89]

White people are not allowed to existed, and if/when they are ever gone, they will be removed from history, if they get the chance.

we can thank secular liberal egilatarianism for this in America today. Now despite various races in the video only three of these children found this video to be odd. Now this is shocking. I am ashamed of America......I wish I could jump in a tim mchine back to 1920 and take over the government during the great depression to reverse the inevitable outcome of America..................this is too depressing for me to watch.....

A better time in American history- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd1oA47Ti0I&bpctr=1396992542&hd=1

The sick demented sight I see outside of my house everyday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJxnYgP6D8&hd=1

Honestly I hope the South breaks away from this government soon before its too late.

[LightHouse89]

A world without European-derived civilization to sustain the various savage and semi-savage races that now infest the West? Hm- I wonder what that'd look like?

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE5L2UxL2RldHJvaXQuOTY2OWYuanBnCnAJdG h1bWIJOTUweDUzNCMKZQlqcGc/1b353504/919/detroit.jpg

Like Deeeeetroit, Michigan- once one of the jewels of the American auto industry founded by Henry Ford.

Decades of progressive politics, anti-white race-baiting, etc. has largely depopulated the city of whites and left it a majority-black city.

Its standards of living is as bad if not worse than some African countries. Once we cut federal funding for welfare the race riots there will be large. I bet even then Liberals will still rule over us.

[LightHouse89]

Still better than being a Nordicist in denial.

Mr. Comstock did you build the floating city yet? I hope I can get a ticket on board........I do not wish to see anymore of this wretched world.

[Styrian Mujo]

Mr. Comstock did you build the floating city yet? I hope I can get a ticket on board........I do not wish to see anymore of this wretched world.
Yes I have but we had close down immigration even for WASP's until we finnish the construction of a whole new section of the city (there have been a few complications).There could be some place for you in Finkton since we need workers...the pay isn't good though.

[LightHouse89]

Yes I have but we had close down immigration even for WASP's until we finnish the construction of a whole new section of the city (there have been a few complications).There could be some place for you in Finkton since we need workers...the pay isn't good though.

:victory0: Score! I hope as a prison guard.......maybe the warden?

[Peyrol]

Still better than being a Nordicist in denial.

Said by you it sounds funny, indeed

[Prisoner Of Ice]

A world without European-derived civilization to sustain the various savage and semi-savage races that now infest the West? Hm- I wonder what that'd look like?

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE5L2UxL2RldHJvaXQuOTY2OWYuanBnCnAJdG h1bWIJOTUweDUzNCMKZQlqcGc/1b353504/919/detroit.jpg

Like Deeeeetroit, Michigan- once one of the jewels of the American auto industry founded by Henry Ford.

Decades of progressive politics, anti-white race-baiting, etc. has largely depopulated the city of whites and left it a majority-black city.

Basically they will remvoe history. That's what semitic tribes did in bronze age collapse, and what muslims did. Just destroy it all and no one has any idea what happened.

[Styrian Mujo]

:victory0: Score! I hope as a prison guard.......maybe the warden?
Well I could make some arrangements being the Prophet and all:) Although that ain't such a safe job nowadays...

[Peyrol]

Basically they will remvoe history. That's what semitic tribes did, and what muslims did. Just destroy it all and no one has any idea what happened.

When they tried to invade North Italy, 500 years ago, they received a noisy kick in the ass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto

Unfortunately in last times this isn't happening again...

[Dandelion]

I think Leliana focuses too much on the religion of immigrants. Having Sicillian Catholic immigrants in your country is just as bad as having Turkish Muslims...any non-Germanic immigation into Germanic nations is negative furthermore you should not blame immigrants for being there but blame your goverment for letting them being in your country.

The religion, however, does play a role in the mentality of certain immigrants. Sicilians have more of a maffia- and corruption-based culture, maffia ironically being an Arabic word by etymology.

[Leliana]

I think Leliana focuses too much on the religion of immigrants. Having Sicillian Catholic immigrants in your country is just as bad as having Turkish Muslims...any non-Germanic immigation into Germanic nations is negative furthermore you should not blame immigrants for being there but blame your goverment for letting them being in your country.
There isn't any significant immigration of Sicillian Catholics to Germany and Austria though. There was and is some immigration from (Catholic) countries like Italy, Spain, Croatia, Hungary or Poland but most of these immigrants integrate fastly and don't create problems with our laws. They learn our langage in one or two years and don't want to change the core and nature of our countries. Some of them even support conservative or Anti-Islam groups because they have the same problems with these people in their home countries.

I don't want any immigration to Germany or Austria, but I understand that it's impossible to stop all foreigners from coming in. So when immigration is taking place I prefer some thousand Italians, Spaniards or Poles over hundredthousands of Muslims like Turks, Arabs or Mahgrebians! European immigration is better than outer-European immigration. But it's a shame that most of the Bulgarians and Romanians that are coming in are poor gypsies...:icon_ask: They are a horrible bunch of people.


My point is that she foucuses too much on religion and haiting muslim immigrants rather than honoring her Germanic ancestors and emphasising perservation of Race and her Nation, religion especially the likes of internationalist corrupted Catholicism should be secondery thing or even irrelevant.
Uhm, I actually honor our Germanic ancestors and read books and Internet sources about them. No worries! :) I have learned a lot of our past in the last few months and I read some books about the Celts too, let's think of the Hallstatt culture. The center of the Halstatt culture is the place where I live hence I'm sure that I could have some Celtic genetic input but I can't prove it as yet.

I'm a conservative Catholic Nationalist who doesn't hate European heathens.

Btw, why did you choose Comstock as your username and not Booker DeWitt?

[brazuca]

I'm a traditional Catholic and think that some decisions of the II. Vaticane Concilliate were wrong. We need more self-esteem and steadfastness. Christianity is in the defensive in Europe, and that must change. Christianty is not about giving up everything. Indeed, I'd support a peaceful deportation of about 80 to 90% Muslims to their countries of origin.

you think the world would be better if everybody was Catholic?

[Leliana]

you think the world would be better if everybody was Catholic?
Yes.

[brazuca]

Yes.

but you live in a country increasingly less "religious" and "atheist"?

[Baluarte]

The girl is a good symbol. Proves neocon females can exist East of the Atlantic as well, even in younger generations.

[Shah-Jehan]

The girl is a good symbol. Proves neocon females can exist East of the Atlantic as well, even in younger generations.

you're back
:clap:

[Teyrn]

Basically they will remvoe history. That's what semitic tribes did in bronze age collapse, and what muslims did. Just destroy it all and no one has any idea what happened.

The sort of scum being imported en masse into Europe at this time isn't even at the cultural level of the people during the bronze age collapse of circa 1200bc. Keep in mind that the great kingdoms of the time either vanished entirely, like the Hittite realm, or became seriously weakened, like Assyria and Babylon. Only Egypt really came out of it but it went into decline and never recovered, becoming a satrapy of the renewed Assyrian kingdom around 700bc. Also the 'Sea Peoples' were hardly all savages; some of them were likely organized warrior-bands like the Philistines, who arrived in Palestine from Crete or one of the other Mycenaean territories.

I wouldn't insult the people of the bronze age by comparing them to this rabble coming into Europe. :D

[Borna]

Looks to me we have enough members to form up Holy Alliance and wage wars against these enemies of the God, leading Apricity to the brighter future :D

Deus Vult!

[Teyrn]

Looks to me we have enough members to form up Holy Alliance and wage wars against these enemies of the God, leading Apricity to the brighter future :D

Deus Vult!

http://thomasdoughty.com/images/knights%20templar/Templars-Charge.jpg

[LightHouse89]

Well I could make some arrangements being the Prophet and all:) Although that ain't such a safe job nowadays...

I can keep the children of ham in check. If they refuse to till the cotton fields they will be 'removed' from Columbia!

[LightHouse89]

http://thomasdoughty.com/images/knights%20templar/Templars-Charge.jpg

Are those Allah snackbars?

[Teyrn]

Are those Allah snackbars?

Templars runt. :p