Horners are as genetically distant to Europeans as mulattoes (west African + European ones)

[Mazik]

These so called pure Caucasoid, not mongrel, white Horners are apparently not so Caucasian as some people might think. Just look at the global similarity tool from 23andme, when comparing Horners to Europeans and Africans:

http://s30.postimg.org/i0v8yqb0h/chart.jpg

They are as genetically distant to Europeans as mulattoes who are 50% west African and 50% European. The Horner who is closer to Europeans is a real mongrel btw, ~75% SSA and ~25% MENA, he's from Eritrea. The other guy is a Somali. The mulatto from the US is about 45-50% West African and mostly south European on his European side.

[KidMulat]

So like this stuff needs to end.

Horners are not Mulattos; horners existed before West Africans and MENAs.

[Mazik]

^ Never said they were Mulattoes, they are however as genetically distant to Europeans as them. Since they cluster with them using this tool.

[Han Cholo]

So like this stuff needs to end.

Horners are not Mulattos; horners existed before West Africans and MENAs.

100% unaltered? So you are saying the Horners are unaltered relics of the first humans and they didn't evolve the slightest? They obviously suffered lots of adaptations, migrations, pre-historic invasions, bottlenecks, etc... that made them be what they are now. But to say they're older than them is wrong. They seem to be intermediate between North Africans and SSA's like Massai. They also have received some influence from Arabian peninsula, so this statement is a bit sketchy.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Interesting.

[KidMulat]

100% unaltered? So you are saying the Horners are unaltered relics of the first humans and they didn't evolve the slightest? They obviously suffered lots of adaptations, migrations, pre-historic invasions, bottlenecks, etc... that made them be what they are now. But to say they're older than them is wrong.

Did I say 100% unaltered? Nope.

I do believe that most of Horner DNA is indigenous to the region though. The ancestors of the Khoisan are from East Africa, the ancestors of all of Africa originate in the Horn; to say they are the result of west African like people mixing with MENA is an incorrect and simplistic theory.

[KidMulat]

^ Never said they were Mulattoes, they are however as genetically distant to Europeans as them. Since they cluster with them using this tool.

Didn't say they were European.

[Han Cholo]

Did I say 100% unaltered? Nope.

I do believe that most of Horner DNA is indigenous to the region though. The ancestors of the Khoisan are from East Africa, the ancestors of all of Africa originate in the Horn; to say they are the result of west African like people mixing with MENA is an incorrect and simplistic theory.

Modern horners are a result of East African people mixing with people from MENA areas in ancient times (some almost in Historical times). Somalis score around 40% SouthWest Asian.

[Also]

horners = mulatos for most effects.

[KidMulat]

Modern horners are a result of East African people mixing with people from MENA areas in ancient times (some almost in Historical times). Somalis score around 40% SouthWest Asian.

I disagree that the MENA that Backcrossed where a truly distinct population; similar to Early Natifian people sure but even they show clear links to Saharan populations.

[Han Cholo]

I disagree that the MENA that Backcrossed where a truly distinct population; similar to Early Natifian people sure but even they show clear links to Saharan populations.

Perhaps in the case of Cushitic groups it might have been an older transitional population, but the groups that spawned the South Semitic languages were likely very similar to modern Yemenis (without SSA admixture).

People like this are the result of foreign interference in the Horn in older times:
http://www.biografiasyvidas.com/biografia/h/fotos/haile_selassie.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/5852/l943.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img689/5926/8y3p.jpg

http://www.travelswithsheila.com/Day%209%20priest%20with%20cool%20shades.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3614/2yn59x2.jpg

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547604_530628086981176_1755620549_n.jpg

Maybe you have a point with people like this being mostly native though:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/4699953145_4301be5d68_o.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/002_Oromo_Liberation_Front_rebels.JPG

East Africa is not an homogeneous place.

[KidMulat]

Perhaps in the case of Cushitic groups it might have been an older transitional population, but the groups that spawned the South Semitic languages were likely very similar to modern Yemenis (without SSA admixture).

That is another thing I disagree with; I am one to believe that since both the Horn and Southern Yemen share the same Afrotropic ecozone (the Afromontane subregion) and they both being consider one of several "sky islands" the inhabitants could have developed a similar culture with the same people since both share the same plants, weather and soil types. It takes only a few boats to cross back and forth.

To say the southern Yemen is complete seperate from the Horn Highlands is modern catergorizations not based on terrestrial data.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

So like this stuff needs to end.

Horners are not Mulattos; horners existed before West Africans and MENAs.
Nice theory.

[Han Cholo]

That is another thing I disagree with; I am one to believe that since both the Horn and Southern Yemen share the same Afrotropic ecozone (the Afromontane subregion) and they both being consider one of several "sky islands" the inhabitants could have developed a similar culture with the same people since both share the same plants, weather and soil types. It takes only a few boats to cross back and forth.

To say the southern Yemen is complete seperate from the Horn Highlands is modern catergorizations not based on terrestrial data.

That does not contradict what I say, and coastal yemenis do have higher SSA than the ones in the highlands. In the initial expansion, they came from further north than the Yemeni Islands, around the mountains of Central Arabia. Now think about it...

[KidMulat]

You cannot look at modern Horners and say for fact what admixture is 10,000k old and what is 2,000 years old.

[Han Cholo]

You cannot look at modern Horners and say for fact what admixture is 10,000k old and what is 2,000 years old.

Of course not. But it's even more far fetched to say they're just "older than MENAs and West Africans". They're also likely not older than Nilotic peoples either.

[KidMulat]

That does not contradict what I say, and coastal yemenis do have higher SSA than the ones in the highlands. In the initial expansion, they came from further north than the Yemeni Islands, around the mountains of Central Arabia. Now think about it...

The higher SSA admixture cannot be deciphered between a Horner founder population, later Horner migrations and the later Slave and Merchant trade periods.

[Han Cholo]

The higher SSA admixture cannot be deciphered between a Horner founder population, later Horner migrations and the later Slave and Merchant trade periods.

It's likely all of them.

[KidMulat]

It's likely all of them.

Ofcourse, I am one to believe that.

But the importance is the first; the Horner founder population. I think rather than look at modern cartography (The Arabian Peninsula, Eurasia, Africa) its bests to go by Ecozone.

If we are to use modern terms, Proto-"Cushitic" peoples (Along with a diverged Khoisan like population) very well could have extended either to or from the Horn Highlands to the Southern Yemen Highlands, then spread out, bottle necked (a Nilotic like population from the southernly Rifts) and then back migrated as transitional populations blending with the founder population.

If that is the human history of the region (and I say if because no one knows) then one can state Horners are a largely Indigenous population.

[Hadouken]

although i find horners to be good looking and nice people (the ones i have met in real life at least) i have never understood why they are seen as the same race as caucasoids let alone europeans

the average person would think that they are "blacks" on the street

i mean the differences between us near easterners and europeans are obvious although we plot close so how are people from the horn of africa with that dark skin and obvious black blood caucasoids ? :confused:

maybe i know too little dunno

[Also]

the average person would think that they are "blacks" on the street


That's usually the consensus.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

although i find horners to be good looking and nice people (the ones i have met in real life at least) i have never understood why they are seen as the same race as caucasoids let alone europeans

the average person would think that they are "blacks" on the street

i mean the differences between us near easterners and europeans are obvious although we plot close so how are people from the horn of africa with that dark skin and obvious black blood caucasoids ? :confused:

maybe i know too little dunno

It is because many horners have Caucasoid shaped skulls. The coloring is much darker, and many also have more kinky hair texture but since race is based at the skeletal level they are counted as caucasian due to morphology. I neither believe, nor disagree with the above I am simply restating the reasoning behind it.

[Methusalem]

Trollthread.

Horners are not hybrids. All that genetic studies clearly indicate, is that East Africans are the progenitor source founding populations of all Non-African populations. Including Europeans, this has been the mainstream consensus for quite some time now, and has only been corroborated by further studies. East Africans are one of the most genetic diverse populations on this planet, and this plot is a testament to this. Nutzi faggot and mixed racial latin american trolls is butthurt it seems.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3875/geographicdistancefrome.jpg

[Methusalem]

It is because many horners have Caucasoid shaped skulls. The coloring is much darker, and many also have more kinky hair texture but since race is based at the skeletal level they are counted as caucasian due to morphology. I neither believe, nor disagree with the above I am simply restating the reasoning behind it.

Exactly. Caucasoid refers only to metrical/morphological traits and not 'genetics'. The term caucasoid was and is never used to describe a genetic component but solely by anthropologists to put humans into metrical/skeletal/morphological clusters. Hence Aethiopids are put into the leptodolichomorphic Aurignacoid Caucasoid cluster.

[Methusalem]

They are as genetically distant to Europeans as mulattoes who are 50% west African and 50% European. The Horner who is closer to Europeans is a real mongrel btw, ~75% SSA and ~25% MENA, he's from Eritrea. The other guy is a Somali. The mulatto from the US is about 45-50% West African and mostly south European on his European side.

According to your faggot logic Italians are Half Northafrican/Northeuropean hybrids since a half Egyptian/Half Swede would cluster in IItaly. lmao you son of a dirty whore.

[Methusalem]

That's usually the consensus.

In subhuman triracial mongrel Brazil probably.

[Harkonnen]

Trollthread.

Horners are not hybrids. All that genetic studies clearly indicate, is that East Africans are the progenitor source founding populations of all Non-African populations. Including Europeans, this has been the mainstream consensus for quite some time now, and has only been corroborated by further studies. East Africans are one of the most genetic diverse populations on this planet, and this plot is a testament to this. Nutzi faggot and mixed racial latin american trolls is butthurt it seems.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3875/geographicdistancefrome.jpg

Absolute nonsense. East Africans can not be basal Eurasians as they are much too African shifted*. The same applies to middeasterness by the way.

*In fact they are mostly African.

[Mazik]

Trollthread.

Horners are not hybrids. All that genetic studies clearly indicate, is that East Africans are the progenitor source founding populations of all Non-African populations. Including Europeans, this has been the mainstream consensus for quite some time now, and has only been corroborated by further studies. East Africans are one of the most genetic diverse populations on this planet, and this plot is a testament to this. Nutzi faggot and mixed racial latin american trolls is butthurt it seems.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3875/geographicdistancefrome.jpg



According to your faggot logic Italians are Half Northafrican/Northeuropean hybrids since a half Egyptian/Half Swede would cluster in IItaly. lmao you son of a dirty whore.

Relax nigger http://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/pat.gif I wrote pretty clearly that Horners are as genetically distant to Europeans as west African/European mulattoes. What is so hard to understand about that? Where did I say that they are genetically exactly the same as them? I just stated that the distance between Europeans and Horners, compared to west Africans mulattoes is the same. Which goes against the claim you have said that you would be as distant to west Africans as north Europeans are :laugh:

I bet if you and kidmulat tested yourself at 23andme you would be equally far from Europe.

[Harkonnen]

It is because many horners have Caucasoid shaped skulls. The coloring is much darker, and many also have more kinky hair texture but since race is based at the skeletal level they are counted as caucasian due to morphology. I neither believe, nor disagree with the above I am simply restating the reasoning behind it.

Horner skull is no way near a Europian. Here are the cranial clusterings of 70 populations from Hanihara et all 2003 (ie a modern study wink wink)

As you can see Somalis cluster closest to Kenyans and other Africans.

http://i34.tinypic.com/15g8jfs.jpg

[Mazik]

In subhuman triracial mongrel Brazil probably.

Typical horners:

http://avpixlat.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/somalier.jpg

http://balkeena.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/somalier.jpg

= the product of mixing between MENAs and East Africans for ages => extreme case of mongrels. And then adding several generations of inbreeding. Then you got your average Horner. Hence their extremely gross and deformed appearance.


Horner intelligence, trying to use an escalator:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVz3GgAWUyM

[Methusalem]

Relax niggerI wrote pretty clearly that Horners are as genetically distant to Europeans as west African/European mulattoes. What is so hard to understand about that? Where did I say that they are genetically exactly the same as them? I just stated that the distance between Europeans and Horners, compared to west Africans mulattoes is the same. Which goes against the claim you have said that you would be as distant to west Africans as north Europeans are :laugh:


lmao faggot logic is contradicting itself. How does this goes against my claim that Horners are as much distant to Northern Europeans as to Westafricans when they nearly cluster in between? You say in the same post that Horners cluster between Europeans and Westafricans like Mulattoes and after that 'Which goes against the claim you have said that you would be as distant to west Africans as north Europeans are' something which I never claimed to begin with. How can make this any sense? I know that faggots have to much sperm filled in their crania and hence logical thinking might be absent but come one even a faggot like you can not be that retarded.

So what's you point again? I said several times Horners cluster as much distant to euros as to westafricans. I really don't get what's the point of yours.


I bet if you and kidmulat tested yourself at 23andme you would be equally far from Europe.

Yes we would be but that means shit. You cluster closer to a Gypsy than I would cluster to a Nigerian. So what's your point again?:laugh:

[Methusalem]

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hehe I know you are butthurt hence you try to troll Horners. hehe faggots are still pedophiles deal with it. xD

[Mazik]

lmao faggot logic is contradicting itself. How does this goes against my claim that Horners are as much distant to Northern Europeans as to Westafricans when they nearly cluster in between? You say in the same post that Horners cluster between Europeans and Westafricans like Mulattoes and after that 'Which goes against the claim you have said that you would be as distant to west Africans as north Europeans are' something which I never claimed to begin with. How can make this any sense? I know that faggots have to much sperm filled in their crania and hence logical thinking might be absent but come one even a faggot like you can not be that retarded.


Read again, it's that Horners would have as little in common genetically with west Africans as North Europeans have with w.Africans.


So what's you point again? I said several times Horners cluster as much distant to euros as to westafricans. I really don't get what's the point of yours.

That you are definitely not Caucasian, nor white, nor pure :yo:

[Methusalem]

Perhaps in the case of Cushitic groups it might have been an older transitional population, but the groups that spawned the South Semitic languages were likely very similar to modern Yemenis (without SSA admixture).

People like this are the result of foreign interference in the Horn in older times:
http://www.biografiasyvidas.com/biografia/h/fotos/haile_selassie.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/5852/l943.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img689/5926/8y3p.jpg

http://www.travelswithsheila.com/Day%209%20priest%20with%20cool%20shades.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3614/2yn59x2.jpg

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547604_530628086981176_1755620549_n.jpg

Maybe you have a point with people like this being mostly native though:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/4699953145_4301be5d68_o.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/002_Oromo_Liberation_Front_rebels.JPG

East Africa is not an homogeneous place.

Not really. Semitic languages are spoken since at east 4000 years in Eastafrica. Take in consideration that even before this socalled Caucasoid skulls were found in Tanzania predating the time of Semitic/Southwestasian influence in this region and take into account that oldest Negroid skulls are barely 6000 years old and rather of young age in Eastafrica. So we really can't now how these ancient Eastafricans/Southwestasians looked like. What is very likely that both were somehow protocaucasoid/khoisaniform maybe even weddoidlike looking populations. On the last picture doesn't really represent original Eastafricans since those are heavily bantu/nilotic admixed South Oromos from North Kenya. Similarly to Somalis they mixed heavily with Bantu/Nilotic slaves if you go further South towards the borders of Kenya. Hence you have even nilotizied Somali ethnic groups like the Rendille people and Bantu Somali minorities.

Ancient pure unmixed Eastafrican Cushitic people probably looked like this or modern day unmixed Afars and Somalis:

Rendille tribesman from Kenya

http://imageshack.com/a/img12/1514/7y29.jpg

and invading Semites like this:

Socotri man

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-42-18128968.jpg?size=67&uid=674acde5-74d5-4960-8ff6-ce7559898ada

[Methusalem]

Read again, it's that Horners would have as little in common genetically with west Africans as North Europeans have with w.Africans.

I know faggot but I never claimed otherwise if so please post a quote of me where I claimed the contrary. :thumb001:



That you are definitely not Caucasian, nor white, nor pure :yo:

Caucasoid/=/caucasian.

Caucasian/white are social concepts and not used in racial anthropology or genetics to describe populations.

Caucasoid is only used in racial anthropology to describe certain morphological/metrical/skeletal traits. Aethiopids are caucasoids based on morphological/skeletal/metrical traits.

There is no such things as 'pure' in terms of population genetics but if you want to claim that horners are somekind of mixed race population then sorry modern day genetic researches disprove this notion. It is equally retarded as trying to claim that Italians are Northafrican/Northeruoepan hybrids based on looking on some genetic plots. so sorry you got just disproved you son of a whore. ;)

[Mazik]

hehe I know you are butthurt hence you try to troll Horners. hehe faggots are still pedophiles deal with it. xD

You have said that multiple times before, and I have answered to that and why a misconception about it exists. But you have not answered me yet. On the other hand, it has nothing with this topic to do.


You are a potential rapist yourself, you have celebrated men from the same race as yourself raping women before. Not shocking at all. I especially in one thread remember that you accused the rape victims, and that it would be their fault, and talked about honor and such :picard2:

[Methusalem]

You have said that multiple times before, and I have answered to that and why a misconception about it exists. But you have not answered me yet. On the other hand, it has nothing with this topic to do.


You are a potential rapist yourself, you have celebrated men from the same race as yourself raping women before. Not shocking at all. I especially in one thread remember that you accused the rape victims, and that it would be their fault, and talked about honor and such :picard2:

Cry me a river you disgusting pedophile faggot. Millions of Middle eastern homophobic Muslims are invading your country and increase like rats. And real Nuztis despise you since you are a genetic deformed waste based on your sodomite preference. Both hate and despise you. Real Nutzis and Muslim immigrants. You are a bastard basically being between both poles. The Muslims want to behead you and the Nutzis want to gas you. Poor gay sodomite doesn't know what to do. :laugh:

[randomguy1235]

Cry me a river you disgusting pedophile faggot. Millions of Middle eastern homophobic Muslims are invading your country and increase like rats. And real Nuztis despise you since you are a genetic deformed waste based on your sodomite preference. Both hate and despise you. Real Nutzis and Muslim immigrants. You are a bastard basically being between both poles. The Muslims want to behead you and the Nutzis want to gas you. Poor gay sodomite doesn't know what to do. :laugh:
First point is incorrect. Second depends on how deluded the theoretical Muzzy invaders are.

[SkyBurn]

Cry me a river you disgusting pedophile faggot. Millions of Middle eastern homophobic Muslims are invading your country and increase like rats. And real Nuztis despise you since you are a genetic deformed waste based on your sodomite preference. Both hate and despise you. Real Nutzis and Muslim immigrants. You are a bastard basically being between both poles. The Muslims want to behead you and the Nutzis want to gas you. Poor gay sodomite doesn't know what to do. :laugh:

Wow...that seems rather uncalled for.

Anyway, the data seems pretty interesting. I'd be interested to see if a geneticist could estimate the split between African and Middle Eastern components in these peoples.

[Methusalem]

First point is incorrect. Second depends on how deluded the theoretical Muzzy invaders are.

We have at least 200 000 thousands turks just in Berlin city. Just guess how many Muslims live currently in Western/Northern Europe. Well it doesn't matter if they are Muslims or not since even Russian/Easteuro immigrants are quite homophobic. I know a Polish guy who is currently prison for assaulting a faggot couple. All non-westerns currently risiding in Western countries have usually very homophobic tendencies. Really it doesn't matter if they are Serbs, Tunisians, Russians or Nigerians.

[Argang]

Another PCA with more samples.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/21cf9xu.jpg

[Mazik]

I know faggot but I never claimed otherwise if so please post a quote of me where I claimed the contrary. :thumb001:

You claim so much shit, and I don't want to waste my time going through all your posts. I remember one day you said that you studied at one of the most famous universities in Europe. A couple of weeks later you said that you were unemployed :laugh:


There is no such things as 'pure' in terms of population genetics

I know.


but if you want to claim that horners are somekind of mixed race population then sorry modern day genetic researches disprove this notion.

They are a mix of East African Negroes and MENAs, which are people who belongs to two different racial groups.

Ethiopians:

Siberian: 0%
Amerindian: 0%
West African: 1%
Paleo_African: 1.2%
Southwest Asian: 39.6%
East Asian: 0%
Mediterranean: 5%
Australasian: 0%
Arctic: 0%
West African: 1.6%
North European: 0%
South Asian: 0%
East African: 51.6%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadF9CLUJnTUdSbkVJaDR2UkRtUE9ka UE#gid=2

Imagine if I would have 39.6% Siberian and the rest European mixture, I would be a real mongrel according to you. Which is what you are right now.


It is equally retarded as trying to claim that Italians are Northafrican/Northeruoepan hybrids based on looking on some genetic plots. so sorry you got just disproved you son of a whore. ;)

They might be genetically as distant from north Europeans, but they don't share the same genetic make up. Which is what I've claimed about Horners vs west African/European mulattoes, they don't have the same genetic make up, but they are about equally distant from Europans.

[Mazik]

Cry me a river you disgusting pedophile faggot. Millions of Middle eastern homophobic Muslims are invading your country and increase like rats. And real Nuztis despise you since you are a genetic deformed waste based on your sodomite preference. Both hate and despise you. Real Nutzis and Muslim immigrants. You are a bastard basically being between both poles. The Muslims want to behead you and the Nutzis want to gas you. Poor gay sodomite doesn't know what to do. :laugh:

Shouldn't you sit in the shadow under a tree right now, peel and eat some banana, look for some kid or animal or negro female to fuck. Living the negro life ;) No evolutional pressure, just going after primitive instincts :laugh:

[Methusalem]

Horner skull is no way near a Europian. Here are the cranial clusterings of 70 populations from Hanihara et all 2003 (ie a modern study wink wink)

As you can see Somalis cluster closest to Kenyans and other Africans.


Well the question is what kind of 'somali' skulls they used. A clear Negroid or Europoid skull? Would be like including a very brachy cromagnoid alpignid skull and a very dolicho aurignacoid skull into the same dat. I know you like that study since it is not only up to date but also contrary to Coon which your not so much beloved Agrippa used to recited very often. ;)

According to Coon's ("The Mediterranean Race in East Africa") Eastafrican skulls are very close to nordic and mediterrean skulls. Of course he obviosuly used the typical Aethiopid(europoid), Nordid and Mediterranid examples in his data and not some clearly negroid shifted examples:


The different groups studied in Ethiopia share a tendency to dolichocephaly or mesocephaly, and to a narrow face form. In the measurements of the head and face, all are fundamentally Mediterranean, and the negroid traits manifested in the soft parts do not reveal themselves in the measurements, except in nose breadth and in the biorbital and interorbital diameters. The heads are larger than those of the Yemeni Mediterraneans; Amharas (in the sense of Semitic-speaking Abyssinians) have vault dimensions of 194 mm. (length) by 150 mm. (breadth) by 127 mm. (height); these figures could apply as well to Nordics as to Abyssinians.


So far the inhabitants of the Abyssinian plateau, whatever their speech and ethnic origin, are (...) comparable to Mediterraneans (...) as well as to North European Nordics.

Well obviously Nordics are way more robust than gracile mediterreans and eastafrican europoids, have bigger dimensions for example.

[Hadouken]

mazik and paolo i want you to become friends and stop fighting <3 <3 <3

love not hate

[Methusalem]

Shouldn't you sit in the shadow under a tree right now, peel and eat some banana, look for some kid or animal or negro female to fuck. Living the negro life ;) No evolutional pressure, just going after primitive instincts :laugh:

Well faggot I wouldn't mind. But reality is telling you something else: Your country is currently ruled by cultural marxist regime and invaded by mass immigration from MENA. You can't do shit besides trying to went your frustration about this bitter reality with low brow trolling on cyberspace. You are trapped between being a feminist gay ass faggot and your racial dream scenarios which have basically no future in the furture of globalism, anarch-capitlism, NWO and multiculturalims. You can't do shit. On one side the raving Muslims procrating like rats and taking your country over and on the other side your beloved Nutzis which despise you. that's why I can sit back and relax and let the Joows do their work. You are a keyboard Nutzionalist. I have more respect for real idealistic Nutzis like Anders Breivik or Vasa who actually are actively trying to do something unlike you the little cumsucking Internet faggot trying to live his absurd rainbow-homo-Nutzi dreams with his triracial Puerto rican friend on cyberspace. LOLOLOLOL

xD

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Horner intelligence, trying to use an escalator:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVz3GgAWUyM

If only they were alpinids they would have known how to proceed.

[Hadouken]

I have more respect for real idealistic Nutzis like Anders Breivik

was laberst du für ne scheiße ?

how can anybody respect that child murderer bastard

[Methusalem]

You claim so much shit, and I don't want to waste my time going through all your posts. I remember one day you said that you studied at one of the most famous universities in Europe. A couple of weeks later you said that you were unemployed :laugh:

Yeah you can't because I never claimed that Northerneuros are as much distant to Westafricans as Horners are. You lack basic reading comprehension. I never claimed this while you claimed that you would rape little children. Oh you want me to post a proof for your claim? Well I don't want to waste my time going through all your posts since you claimed too much shit before. Look how easy it is to make something up? ;)



They are a mix of East African Negroes and MENAs, which are people who belongs to two different racial groups.


Imagine if I would have 39.6% Siberian and the rest European mixture, I would be a real mongrel according to you. Which is what you are right now.

Well what you faggot brain doesn't get that this mixing goes 4000 years ago between ancient Southwestasians which doesn't equal MENA you retarded dumbshit.

This would be like me trying to equalize the Northern European component with Eurasia. Northern european component equals Eurasia according to your faggot logic. Add to this we don't know how these ancient Southasians have looked liked as well the ancient eastafricans since there is no population with pure Southwestasian or Eastafrican component.


They might be genetically as distant from north Europeans, but they don't share the same genetic make up. Which is what I've claimed about Horners vs west African/European mulattoes, they don't have the same genetic make up, but they are about equally distant from Europans.

Never claimed the contrary faggot.:thumb001:

[Mazik]

nigger babbling.


I liked you so much better before you escaped from your old cage at the zoo:

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20070628/Angry-Monkey-365673.jpg

[Methusalem]

was laberst du für ne scheiße ?

how can anybody respect that child murderer bastard

Pedophile faggots like Mazik are even worse since they would rape at least 1000000 children if they had the possibility.

[Methusalem]

I liked you so much better before you escaped from your old cage at the zoo:

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20070628/Angry-Monkey-365673.jpg

lmao trying to imitate my previous trolling skills? try to come up with something new faggot. :laugh:

I know you are avoiding to answer my previous post since it is the bitter reality.Your internet nutzicyberspace blarney has zero effect in the real world. Smae applies for all kinds of other pseudo-internetidealists.

[Fear Fiain]

So like this stuff needs to end.

Horners are not Mulattos; horners existed before West Africans and MENAs.

I don't see how you have any right to say anything on this forum about what "needs" to happen.

[Mazik]

lmao trying to imitate my previous trolling skills? try to come up with something new faggot. :laugh:


Do you think you're the only who is doing that and came up with it? :laugh:

lol that you say that I should try to come up with something new. You're repeating the same stuff all the time to people: Sodomite, alpignid, pedophile etc.

[Methusalem]

Do you think you're the only who is doing that and came up with it? :laugh:

lol that you say that I should try to come up with something new. You're repeating the same stuff all the time to people: Sodomite, alpignid, pedophile etc.

Alpignid was actually even more used by resident members than myself. Anyway why are you trying to avoid my previous post? you Nutzi internet gay warrior character is like mental masturbation. Why are you waiting till the first MENA mob is going to crush your skull in Sweden and hating on the internet on me? I am not the one currently residing in Sweden, fucking your female relatives, being in prison, having 20 children, living on Swedish taxes and invading your country. Of course you don't do shit since you are too afraid to be socially sanctioned after expressing your racist beliefs in current politically correct multikulti-marxist Sweden. You are a filthy pseudo-idealist who thinks that his 'vote' for an infiltrated 'rightwing' Swedish party can change something. I am making fun of you while you are just frustrated and angry. :laugh:

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Typical horners:

http://avpixlat.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/somalier.jpg

http://balkeena.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/somalier.jpg

= the product of mixing between MENAs and East Africans for ages => extreme case of mongrels. And then adding several generations of inbreeding. Then you got your average Horner. Hence their extremely gross and deformed appearance.



Weird. Just yesterday paolo was claiming ethiopians are white.

[Methusalem]

Weird. Just yesterday paolo was claiming ethiopians are white.

Are you Mazik's triracial resurrection? He seems to have a favor for triracials.:laugh:

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Are you Mazik's triracial resurrection? He seems to have a favor for triracials.:laugh:

Jelly negro. Assume your negroidness.

[SkyBurn]

Are you Mazik's triracial resurrection? He seems to have a favor for triracials.:laugh:

I find it interesting that the thingy written under your username is "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Why so antagonistic?

[Mazik]

with his triracial Puerto rican friend on cyberspace.

I knew you would bring her up, what do you base triracial on? She doesn't look out of place in Europe, and of course she is neither that genetically. Her PR-side obviously belongs to the "Ricky Martin"-kind of PR, those who are almost entirely Iberian. I happen to share with two people at 23andme who also belongs to this type of PR. The first one is half north European/half PR and the other one is full PR.


half north Euro, made up of 25% British from her grandpa, 12,5% Norwegian and 12,5% Swedish from her grandma. And her mother is fully PR:

http://s7.postimg.org/do97y3xp7/pr1.jpg

Full PR:

http://s21.postimg.org/j6fbhwqnb/pr2.jpg


Those two on the global similarity map:

http://s21.postimg.org/g0zb5fxev/chart2.jpg

They are inside the European cluster.

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I find it interesting that the thingy written under your username is "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Why so antagonistic?

He is antagonic all the time. "white ethiopian", "european ethiopian", he supports racism as long as it is not against his type. He knows I am not nor colombian, from brazilia, nor triracial, he just spans anything like a raged monkey looking for attention. Not to mention he makes fun of a member for the fact a negro raped his girlfriend, couldn't get anymore sick.

[Methusalem]

Jelly negro. Assume your negroidness.

Why are you answering on me with a monologue of yours? Of course you should accept your negroidness as a triracial but also don't forget the amerindian and euro part of yours.

[Methusalem]

I knew you would bring her up, what do you base triracial on? She doesn't look out of place in Europe, and of course she is neither that genetically. Her PR-side obviously belongs to the "Ricky Martin"-kind of PR, those who are almost entirely Iberian. I happen to share with two people at 23andme who also belongs to this type of PR. The first one is half north European/half PR and the other one is full PR.



Why don't you answer on my previous post? I don't give a shit about your triracial friend but face it the average Puerto rican as a balanced triracial. As long as your whorish triracial selfhating butt buddy doesn't post her results i will keep on assuming her to be a triracial based on average Puerto rican results.

[SkyBurn]

He is antagonic all the time. "white ethiopian", "european ethiopian", he supports racism as long as it is not against his type. He knows I am not nor colombian, from brazilia, nor triracial, he just spans anything like a raged monkey looking for attention. Not to mention he makes fun of a member for the fact a negro raped his girlfriend, couldn't get anymore sick.

That's absolutely terrible :( I hope the member and his girlfriend were able to put that behind them.

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That's absolutely terrible :( I hope the member and his girlfriend were able to put that behind them.

Apparently you can do a lot and not be banned here. Filthy scums like him are met with praise by some members.

[Methusalem]

He is antagonic all the time. "white ethiopian", "european ethiopian", he supports racism as long as it is not against his type. He knows I am not nor colombian, from brazilia, nor triracial, he just spans anything like a raged monkey looking for attention. Not to mention he makes fun of a member for the fact a negro raped his girlfriend, couldn't get anymore sick.

lmao I can see how you are trying to avoid me and keep on writing indirect rants about me desperately in this trollthread. That's very very very submissive feminine behavior. lol you remind me of someone who gets bullied in school and goes home to scream lonely at his teddybear to lose some of his anger. Triracial are you by any chance an hermaphrodite with a very high oestrogen level? xD

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lol you remind me of someone who gets bullied in school and goes home to scream lonely at his teddybear to lose some of his anger.

You remind me of a scum low class person, an ethiopian living in Germany, that has no sense of civilization, makes fun of rapes and people spreading HIV and has racial identity issues thinking he is a white european when he looks straight out of sub-saharan africa, at the same time discriminating against real europeans. That's a very jungleish inadequate bevavior, rats should be killed before spreading diseases.

[Methusalem]

You remind me of a scum low class person,

You remind me of an animal in terms of mental traits and physical traits.


an ethiopian living in Germany,

Yes so what? you are a result of Negroid Westafrican slaves shipped to the New World who later on got raped by iberian slave masters and mixed with amerindian midgets. Triracial living in Brazil can't get worse.



that has no sense of civilization,

Civilization is relative. If you look at ethiopa's history you would realise that Ethiopa's civilization dates 5000 years ago superior to your beloved Northern europeans who at that time lived in caves.


makes fun of rapes and people spreading HIV

Well you as a result of a rape and having AIDS are truly funny when being butthurt. :laugh:


and has racial identity issues thinking he is a white european when he looks straight out of sub-saharan africa,

Hey man how can I have racial Identity problems when I am a white European? That makes no sense.


at the same time discriminating against real europeans.

I am a real European why are you hating?


that's a very jungleish inadequate bevavior,

Says the Negroid westafrican jungle/amerindian midget jungle dweller hybrid about Aethiopid masterrace. intredasting. Brazil has jungles, ethiopia has no jungles. i think you are confusing something.



rats should be killed before spreading diseases.

Yes I am very supportive for mass sterilization or mass genocide of latinamerican triracial subhumans.

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Hey man how can I have racial Identity problems when I am a white European? That makes no sense.

[...]

I am a real European why are you hating?


I can't argue with such strong arguments like these and the rest. Specially coming from a superior subape full of sense.

[Methusalem]

I can't argue with such strong arguments like these and the rest. Specially coming from a superior subape full of sense.

Yes because you have no arguments indeed. you are a subhuman a triracial subhuman living in a triracial country but supporting racialist ideas and thinking that Northern europeans are superior to his own race brothers. of course you are not able to give reasonable arguments to your worldview. you even included me in your signature, you are writing indirect butthurt rants about me in this thread since i obviously hurt your feelings in some way....that's very submissive. it doesn't matter of you support this or that. just by looking how you react and act i can see the subhuman mindset behind your thinking processes. you could be a horner or a chinese whatever doesn't matter, you as an individual are inferior. like the pimple on my buttcheeks.

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Yes because you have no arguments indeed. you are a subhuman a triracial subhuman living in a triracial country but supporting racialist ideas and thinking that Northern europeans are superior to his own race brothers. of course you are not able to give reasonable arguments to your worldview. you even included me in your signature, you are writing indirect butthurt rants about me in this thread since i obviously hurt your feelings in some way....that's very submissive. it doesn't matter of you support this or that. just by looking how you react and act i can see the subhuman mindset behind your thinking processes. you could be a horner or a chinese whatever doesn't matter, you as an individual are inferior. like the pimple on my buttcheeks.

You are putting words and ideas in my mouth like always, "my race broters", "northern europeans are superior", if anything I get close to being a medocentrist, lol. I've been to like 10 or 11 different european countries, quite a pleasant experience, obviously no one thought I was a triracial or a mulatoid african like you. The reason why you're in my signature is because your idiocy is epic, as any sane person can attest that, I never thought there could be someone so ridiculous and at the same time so empty of respect that could make fun of someone being raped.

I don't dislike all subapes because I am not a specist, I just support getting rid of scums that have no social and human value such as yourself. How can I expect such trash that doesn't even deserve to be called human to judge someone morally?

[Methusalem]

You are putting words and ideas in my mouth like always, "my race broters", "northern europeans are superior", if anything I get close to being a medocentrist, lol

Well you said several times that you are ashamed of being a triracial and that you would like to be as 'progressive and superior' like your greatgreatgreat Northern European greatgrandfather who used to keep a mulatta slave as his housemaid on one of his Brazilian Banana plantations. once he raped her and his superior Aryan genes got transferred from generation to generation till they reached your triracial existence. without his genetic contribution of 2% to your triracial genetic make up you woudln't be able to use a persoanl computer but unfortunately it was not enough to make your posts in any sense logical and sane sounding. don't hate me for telling you the truth.


I've been to like 10 or 11 different european countries, quite a pleasant experience, obviously no one thought I was a triracial or a mulatoid african like you.

I been to Jupiter and the resident aliens there didn't thought I was a triracial subhuman looking earthling like you.



The reason why you're in my signature is because your idiocy is epic, as any sane person can attest that, I never thought there could be someone so ridiculous and at the same time so empty of respect that could make fun of someone being raped.

wrong the reason why i am in your signature is because you are butthurt and jealous of my European whiteness. Not everyone can be blessed with being white and European at the same time just like me.


I don't dislike all subapes because I am not a specist, I just support getting rid of scums that have no social and human value such as yourself. How can I expect such trash that doesn't even deserve to be called human to judge someone morally?

lmao a triracial subhuman mongrel from bazilia calls me a member of the aethiopid elite masterrace as a subape? you should be glad that i even keep on this one-sided conversation with you inferior nonbeing and that i even have the stamina to give you inferior nonbeing some attention.

[KidMulat]

I don't see how you have any right to say anything on this forum about what "needs" to happen.

And I don't see the point of such a worthless comment.

I guess we are even :thumb001:

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Well you said several times that you are ashamed of being a triracial and that you would like to be as 'progressive and superior' like your greatgreatgreat Northern European greatgrandfather who used to keep a mulatta slave as his housemaid on one of his Brazilian Banana plantations

I never said that, I did say however I have ancestors that owned slaves, and that bugs you because symptahize with your fellow negroids, of whom some have a irrational hatred towards white people, like when you said white brazilians who descend from former slave owners should be killed. Typical subape mentality, of someone who belongs inside a cage.






I been to Jupiter and the resident aliens there didn't thought I was a triracial subhuman looking earthling like you.

Whatever makes you feel better about the fact you are a negro and I am a white true caucasoid. You probably would jizz in your pants if someone mistook you for a european, of course such thing will never happen.





wrong the reason why i am in your signature is because you are butthurt and jealous of my European whiteness. Not everyone can be blessed with being white and European at the same time just like me.

I am jealous of a subape negroid ethiopian because of whiteness. You got me!



lmao a triracial subhuman mongrel from bazilia calls me a member of the aethiopid elite masterrace as a subape? you should be glad that i even keep on this one-sided conversation with you inferior nonbeing and that i even have the stamina to give you inferior nonbeing some attention.

Your subape manners are quite inapropriate, but well you are a subape and sound like a broken record. Seems like your options are ending. You belong in ethiopia or dead, since not even ethiopians should have to live with a scum rape supporter like you.

[Methusalem]

I never said that, I did say however I have ancestors that owned slaves,


Yes your greatgreatgreagreat Nordic grandfather who raped your Negroid westafrican greatgreatgreatgreatmum while she picked some bananas for him.


and that bugs you because symptahize with your fellow negroids,

lmao why are you projecting again your racial inferiority complex of being a mixed racial mongrel triracial onto me? you share a more recent ancestors with your fellow westafrican negroids since one of them was shipped as a slave to brazil and polluted the superior Nordic genepool of one of your ancestors which you admire so much.



of whom some have a irrational hatred towards white people, like when you said white brazilians who descend from former slave owners should be killed. Typical subape mentality, of someone who belongs inside a cage.

I said it is completely rational human behavior or in your case animalistic behavior that people/animals being marginalized for centuries and enslaved develop somekind of hate for their previous masters. just like in your case. the inner westafrican negroid of yours is jealous of aethiopid masterrace since my ancestors used to enslave your westafrican negroid ancestors like animals. it is your racial inferiority complex shining through every post of yours. of course at to this it is also the amerindian midget in yours being jealous of aethiopid masterrace.


Whatever makes you feel better about the fact you are a negro and I am a white true caucasoid.

switching roles eh?? I am white and caucasoid while you are a triracial subhuman from brazil. you must be daydreaming if you think that you are white. According to benjamin franklin your iberian ancestors are not seen as white, same applies for your negroid westafrican ancestors and amerindian midget ancestors.


Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.

How dare you to question Benjamin Franklin?

Unlike you we aethiopid masterrace people are seen and accepted as white aryans. this is for example a short excerpt from a documentary made in the 50's shows how westerners viewed Ethiopians during the segregation era while your triracial ancestors were segregated in brazil by a caste system.:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPgQufXz24


You probably would jizz in your pants if someone mistook you for a european, of course such thing will never happen.

Well I am an european and noone confuses me as a triracial but as european. why are you so jealous again?



I am subape negroid/amerindian/non white iberian triracial jealous of aethiopid masterrace. You got me!


Finally you admit that you feel indeed inferior towards us humans.



Your subape manners are quite inapropriate, but well you are a subape and sound like a broken record. Seems like your options are ending. You belong in ethiopia or dead, since not even ethiopians should have to live with a scum rape supporter like you.

You are a result of rape and prostitution from a triracial Brazilian subhuman mongrel favela. You are not even an animal. It is beyond imagination how this thing has the guts to talk in such blasphemous way with me? You want to meet me? I know it is easy for triracial subhumans like you to have a big mouth but maybe after spending all your savings(from your prostitute mother) for some plane tickets you can come and visit me and I will enslave you subhuman as my ancestors did with your ancestors.

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Well I am an european and noone confuses me as a triracial but as european. why are you so jealous again?


:lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002: :lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002: :lol00002::lol00002::lol00002:

This subape is really desesperate. Your ass must be jealous of so much shit that comes through your mouth, or in this case maybe I should say your fingers.
I've met a few horners in Germany, they're clearly black.

[Methusalem]

:lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002: :lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002: :lol00002::lol00002::lol00002:

This subape is really desesperate. Your ass must be jealous of so much shit that comes through your mouth, or in this case maybe I should say your fingers.
I've met a few horners in Germany, they're clearly black.

Relax take it easy subhuman I can see that you are trying to give us humans the impression that you are right now in a joyful mood by using excessively icons while in reality just trying to compensate your real angry and depressed mood for being not blessed with aethiopid masterrace genes like me.
You are a result of rape and prostitution from a triracial Brazilian subhuman mongrel favela. You are not even an animal. It is beyond imagination how this thing has the guts to talk in such blasphemous way with me and claiming such outrageous blarney? You were never in germany since in the first place Germany doesn't allow triracial AIDS infested subhumans from Brazilia to enter German Aryan land. You want to meet me? I know it is easy for triracial subhumans like you to have a big mouth on the internet but maybe after spending all your savings(from your prostitute whorish mother) for a plane tickets,a fake identity card and plastic surgery to hide your gross triracial visage, you can come and visit me and I will enslave you subhuman as my ancestors did with your ancestors.

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Relax take it easy subhuman I can see that you are trying to give us humans the impression that you are right now in a joyful mood by using excessively icons while in reality just trying to compensate your real angry and depressed mood for being not blessed with aethiopid masterrace genes like me.
You are a result of rape and prostitution from a triracial Brazilian subhuman mongrel favela. You are not even an animal. It is beyond imagination how this thing has the guts to talk in such blasphemous way with me and claiming such outrageous blarney? You were never in germany since in the first place Germany doesn't allow triracial AIDS infested subhumans from Brazilia to enter German Aryan land. You want to meet me? I know it is easy for triracial subhumans like you to have a big mouth on the internet but maybe after spending all your savings(from your prostitute whorish mother) for a plane tickets,a fake identity card and plastic surgery to hide your gross triracial visage, you can come and visit me and I will enslave you subhuman as my ancestors did with your ancestors.

Subape learn your place, inside a cage or in a coffin. Clearly, I don't care about the opinon of a subape ethiopian thinking he is white and european and raging random stuff that no one can take seriously. Your post that is in my signature is to always remind me how ridiculous you are. I've been twice in Germany, I have family that lived there for some years, if anything they shouldn't allow subape negroids rape supporters like you to ever set foot there, and I lived briefly with a german exchange student in my own country. I have not only been to Germany but to other 9 or 10 european countries, I mentioned it before in the Latin America section, but this pisses a subape like you for reasons I don't bother to care..

You say random insults thinking they will have some effect, clearly you are going mad right now. Your subape brain can't deal with too much stress and all the flies in your face at the same time. You belong in ethiopia, so do the only right thing you can do in your subape life and move there permanently. You are a filthy skinny ethiopian negroid playing though, go use that huge anal plugs in your stretched shitskin ass.

[Mazik]

Well what you faggot brain doesn't get that this mixing goes 4000 years ago between ancient Southwestasians which doesn't equal MENA you retarded dumbshit.

This would be like me trying to equalize the Northern European component with Eurasia. Northern european component equals Eurasia according to your faggot logic. Add to this we don't know how these ancient Southasians have looked liked as well the ancient eastafricans since there is no population with pure Southwestasian or Eastafrican component.


Well, you've called Finns mongs and non-white mongrels many times. Even if it's in their case an extremely small amount of non-white genes. Compared to you who are extremely mixed with East African and Southwest Asian genes => true mongrel.

[Methusalem]

Well, you've called Finns mongs and non-white mongrels many times. Even if it's in their case an extremely small amount of non-white genes. Compared to you who are extremely mixed with East African and Southwest Asian genes => true mongrel.

Genetically speaking Horners are Eastafrican/Southwestasian. But what you tiny faggot brain still can't understand is that they are neither 'Caucasoid' or 'negroid' since this mixture took place thousands of years ago but probably both components were more or less proto-caucasoid based on several skull findings in this region. This mixture dates at least 3000 years (South Semitic languages reached Horn of Africa)when Negroids haven't reached Eastafrica yet and Caucasoid skulls have been already found in Eastafrica which predate the arrival of Southwestasians in Eastafrica.
Archaic aurignacoid variants(call it 'proto-Aethiopid/Mediterranoid) existed in East Africa about 10,000 years ago and at that time were already spread far up in the southeast of Africa, which can be detected using various skull discoveries in Kenya and Tanzania.


by Carleton S. Coon
Excavations in Kenya and Tansania have uncovered remains of a tall, extremely long-headed, Mediterranean racial type, with a tendency to great elongation and narrowness of the face, in pre-Neolithic times.
...
The Somali face and nose are not long, they are merely narrow. The extremely long faces and noses found among the Ba-Hima, the noble class of the Baganda, and supposedly of Galla origin, have acquired a social value, and far exceed those of the Somali. In this tendency to attenuation of the face, we are reminded of Oldoway man and some of the Elmenteita skeletons. This tendency is an extremely old one in East Africa.

The Mesolithic people of Kenya and Tanzania have surprisingly narrow noses, narrow faces, narrow forehead, receding cheekbones, long skulls, and in most cases, orthognathic.

Apart from Combe Capelle, Dolni Vestonice and the East African skulls, there ís no skull find with high level of awareness which has so strong leptodolichomorphic characteristics and which is at the same age.
The Kenyan Mesolithic skulls were measured by the anthropologist W.W. Howells. He came to the opinion that these people were not Negroids, but Caucasoid(Europoids). The reason is that the vast majority of form-features of a aethiopid skull, is not distinguishable from the skull of a Gracile-mediterranid or Arabid.

The skull of Combe Capelle (Southern France) is not Upper Paleolithic age, as was thought earlier, but as recently discovered, epipaleolithic as the East African skulls.

Or Caucasoid skull findings in Kenya which predate any Southwestasian invasion:


All the Upper Paleolithic peoples of Kenya were of Caucasoid or proto-Hamitic stock; they are represented by the Gamble's Cave and Naivasha skeletons, as well as the skeleton from Olduvai in northern Tanganyika. They were tall and dolichocephalic, with long face and narrow nose (the 'Elmenteitan type'); the other is brachycephalic, with a shorter face but also with a narrow nose. These two types are represented by Elmenteita A and F1 (Fig. 5 (2 and 3)) from Bromhead's site. The same types persist into the Neolithic, but now a third variation appears in the ultra-dolichocephalic skulls from Willey's kopje (Fig. 5 (4)); these differ from the Elmenteitan type by having a shorter face, a more prominent nose, and a different kind of mandible. This third type is also known from Hyrax Hill and Njoro[...]

Various skulls from South Africa dating from Middle and Later Stone Age times (for instance the Boskop, Skildergat, and Matjes river crania) are assumed to be ancestral to the Bushman because of their pedomorphic or infantile characters, though they differ from present-day Bushmen in the greater size of their skulls and their far larger brains.

There is some evidence that the same stock was present in East Africa in early times. The skull fragments from Kanjera in Kenya, of Middle Pleistocene age, are thought to have Bushmanoid affinities (the brow, for instance, is exceptionally smooth and pedomorphic). Then the brachycephalic type of Mesolithic times in Kenya, represented by Elmenteita F1, has been compared with the Tuinplaats skull from South Africa. Perhaps the Caucasoid peoples of Kenya at this time took Bushmanoid wives from tribes inhabiting the same region? The Singa skull from the Blue Nile is characteristically Bushmanoid in appearance. Possibly the Neolithic Wilton C people associated with shell-mounds on the shores of Lake Victoria were descended from Bushmanoid stock; they have very large skulls with small faces, and both their features and culture are similar to those of the strand-looping kitchen-midden people of South Africa[...]

One of the most striking facts to emerge is the comparatively late appearance of the Negroid type -- in the Mesolithic of Khartoum, but not before Neolithic times in Kenya. Apart from the proto-Bushman skull from Singa, and the specialized proto-Australoid from Eyasi, the Upper Paleolithic people known from East Africa were of the Caucasoid stock, or proto-Hamites.

http://i48.tinypic.com/219s7sp.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/jv0l6g.jpg


The same principle of attenuation applies to the faces. In all of them, and especially in Oldoway, the faces are extremely narrow, and very long, especially in the upper segments. The browridges are weak, the zygomatic arches feebly developed, the mandibles light and slender, with narrow bigonial diameters, and weak, although positive, chins. The orbits are high and narrow, and the noses likewise. The Gamble’s Cave skulls are leptorrhine, leptene and leptoprosopic; Oldoway is mesorrhine, and hyperleptoprosopic. The two Gamble’s Cave skulls are orthognathous, but Oldoway possesses considerable alveolar prognathism.

In vault size, these crania resemble Combe Capelle and Afalou #28, rather than the European and North African crania of later Aurignacian and Oranian date. Oldoway and Gamble’s Cave #4 are higher and narrower than the European Upper Palaeolithic mean; Gamble’s Cave #5, which is the skull of an adolescent, is shorter, higher, and nearly as broad. The foreheads are gently sloping and rounded; the occiputs projecting, but without the lambdoidal flattening which characterizes the European crania. The total impression is one of thinness and delicacy.

In the morphology of the head and face, these three specimens are not exactly alike. Gamble’s Cave #5, which has a cranial index of 74, is nearest to the European standard; while the two others, Gamble’s #4, with an index of 71, and Oldoway, with 64.5, are decreasingly so. But they are closer in many ways to modern European racial types than are the Upper palaeolithic skulls. They seem, however, to have been subjected to some influence which has made all extremities, including both limbs and face, extremely long and thin. One may compare this with the modern changes in the English stock settled in Queensland.56

Both of the Gamble’s Cave skulls seem to be fully or nearly “white” in the skeletal sense, but Oldoway is, in a way difficult to analyze, perceptibly negroid. Many modern tribes of East Africa, including the Somalis and Masai, and the upper classes of others such as the Bahimas, show today the same general features which are found in these pluvial period skulls, particularly in Oldoway. These modern Hamites have long spindly legs, thin hands, and narrow wrists, while their bodies are correspondingly thin and attenuated. Their skulls are universally long, smoothly contoured, and lacking in strong muscular markings. Their noses are narrow and often highly arched, their jaws light and narrow, their faces long and thin. All of these modern East African Hamites show a certain amount of negroid admixture, but their skulls are considerably smaller than the three from the pluvial period.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-II09.htm


So taking all these into consideration we can only speculate how primeval Southwestasians and Eastafricans have looked like. What makes most sense is that both components were more or less Caucasoid(see skull findings in Eastafrica) and hence Horners just present a modern day continuum between SSA, Northeastafrica and the Arabian peninsula. A continuum which was always more or less 'caucasoid'(based on skull findings) like hence you can say that 'caucasoid' features already evolved in the Horn of Africa, but with several ranges of tropical adaption (dark skin, fuller lips, curlier hair).

Hence the claim that Horners are mongrels is based on zero evidences but based on your ignorance.

[Methusalem]

I am a subhuman

I said relax subhuman. Relax the psychological pressure onto your tiny underdeveloped mongrel triracial frontal cortex lobe is increasing from post to post of yours. Regardless what you write how often you write and how often you repeat the same crap over and over again to make your mixed racial mongrel self feeling a bit better. You are and will be still a dirty rape product of Westafrican negroid slaves, amerindian midgets and Iberian masters, a dirty mongrel subhuman, coming from a mongrel country trying to project your internal racial New World inferiority complex onto a member of the aethiopid masterrace. Tfuuuu I spit on you and your whorish mongrel subhuman triracial family. It is beyond imagination, beyond human sense, a sin to humanity that you the epitome of untermenschentum and sklavenrasse dares to speak in such disrespectful and blasphemous words with me. You slave should learn your place in this world. It is incredible that after my ancestors used to sell and dehumanize your slave ancestors that you the bastard scum son of a dirty triracial whore still have the uppity behavior to speak with me in such a way. You literally crave for my human attention.

Why are you still trying desperately to prove that we are equal beings? You are a triracial animal so how can we be equal?

[Prince Carlo]

According to your faggot logic Italians are Half Northafrican/Northeuropean hybrids since a half Egyptian/Half Swede would cluster in IItaly. lmao you son of a dirty whore.

LoL? Please show me this.

[Methusalem]

LoL? Please show me this.

Half Lebo/Half Swede than. Like Ashkenazims who cluster in Siclia while they are Westeuro/Levantine hybrids.

[Prince Carlo]

Half Lebo/Half Swede than. Like Ashkenazims who cluster in Siclia while they are Westeuro/Levantine hybrids.

Italian/Swedish mixed person plots with Germans and Orcadians. So what's your point?

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/39865-Top-10-ethnicities-that-YOU-perceive-as-physically-racially-similar-to-your-own?p=1102376&viewfull=1#post1102376

[Methusalem]

Italian/Swedish mixed person plots with Germans and Orcadians. So what's your point?

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/39865-Top-10-ethnicities-that-YOU-perceive-as-physically-racially-similar-to-your-own?p=1102376&viewfull=1#post1102376

I know.
Ask Mazik. According to Mazik a Half Levantine/Half Swede who clusters in Italy is an Italian. obviously that's an idiotic claim but that's what Mazik claims.

[Also]

I AM THE BIGGEST SUBAPE WANNABE EUROPEAN ON EARTH

Relax subape full of flies on your face, saudis know how to treat you right.


http://youtu.be/Wg5WdbxAj6Q

Scum rape supporter, keep pretending you are something more than a dirty ape.

[Methusalem]

Relax subape full of flies on your face, saudis know how to treeat you right.

Scum rape supporter, keep pretending you are something more than a dirty ape.

I see the triracial monkey and the result of colonial rape is butthurt again. We Ethiopians used to rape, kill, enslave and rule over Saudis for centuries so i don't mind when they retail the hundreds of years of Ethiopian supremacy and rule with beating one Ethiopian. The whole southern part of the Arabian peninsula was part of the Ethiopian kingdom of Aksum. Arabs have like Gypsies in Europe the same reputation in Ethiopia. Arab is even used as a synonym for slave. lmao so a triracial slave sides with arab slaves to troll Ethiopian masterrace?

Ethiopian Aksum kingdom from 1000 B.C to 300 A.C ruling over Saudis:

http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=89823&stc=1&d=1262288527

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum

Furthermore even prophet Mohammed was born in the year of the elephant when the Ethiopian king was going to invade Mecca and Medina with his army and hundreds of Ethiopian Elephants while on the way to Mecca killing and enslaving many sand niggas:


The Year of the Elephant (Arabic: عام الفيل‎, ʿĀmu l-Fīl) is the name in Islamic history for the year approximately equating to 570 AD. According to Islamic tradition, it was in this year that Muhammad was born.[1] The name is derived from an event said to have occurred at Mecca: Abraha, the Christian ruler of Yemen, which was subject to the Kingdom of Aksum of Ethiopia,[2][3] marched upon the Kaaba with a large army, which included one or more war elephants, intending to demolish it.


And if it wasn't for the Ethiopian negus who saved Muhammads followers. Islam probably wouldn't exist anymore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_to_Abyssinia

Anyway even a Saudi is 100000000000 times more human than your mongrel bastard scum existence.

[Also]

And if it wasn't for the Ethiopian negus who saved Muhammads followers. Islam probably wouldn't exist anymore.


Another thing to blame you subapes then.

Go take a walk with your family.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T4z-XD2gxrw/UDspyQCVnRI/AAAAAAAABIU/e470XVmvpFE/s1600/beautiful%2Banimal%2Bpicture%2Bchimpanzee-family%2Bendangered%2Banimals%2Bendangered%2Bchimp azee%2Bbush%2Bmeat%2Banimal%2Bprotection%2Bbeautif ul%2Bamazing%2Banimal%2Bpictures.jpg

They killed at least 3 ethiopians, shame, could have been much more. I am sure when I give you a banana you'll stop chimping out subape.

[Methusalem]

Another thing to blame you subapes then.

Go take a walk with your family.

They killed at least 3 ethiopians, shame, could have been much more. I am sure when I give you a banana you'll stop chimping out subape.

lol I can smell the butthurt do you think i give a shit when some saudis killed 3 ethiopians after my ancestors ruled for centuries over them? :laugh:

This would be like trying to offend the Albanian members on here by posting a video of two Gypsies beating an Albanian. The Albanians wouldn't give a shit since Gypsies themselves were dehumanized for centuries by Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians and other Balkan people. Same applies for Saudis/Yemenis who used to suck Aksumite cock for centuries. lmao you are desperatly trying to offend me you little animal.

And again: Regardless what you write how often you write and how often you repeat the same crap over and over again to make your mixed racial mongrel self feeling a bit better. You are and will be still a dirty rape product of Westafrican negroid slaves, amerindian midgets and Iberian masters, a dirty mongrel subhuman, coming from a mongrel country trying to project your internal racial New World inferiority complex onto a member of the aethiopid masterrace.

[Also]

I AM A NEGROID IN DENIAL!!!! I THINK I AM A WHITE EUROPEAN, UGAAA BUGGGAAAA

Done subape scum?? I see your people are hanging themselves on Saudi Arabia. http://ethiopianewsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55426&start=30

And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fm2VZQYtxc

But the wrong ones are doing it, you should be one lying like a cold subape useless corpse. There's no better for a scum rape supporter with supremacy delusions.

[Methusalem]

Done subape scum?? I see your people are hanging themselves on Saudi Arabia.

But the wrong ones are doing it, you should be one lying like a cold subape useless corpse. There's no better for a scum rape supporter with supremacy delusions.

lmao look how much dignity you have to try to offend me with making fun of poor immigrants who are working in Saudi arabia to earn some money and get badly treated because of their christian faith? I thought you as a Catholic triracial mongrel from Brazil wouldn't side with Muslims from Saudi Arabia. Well I know why you are trying to offend me desperatley keep on posting some random videos. You have no dignity for sure. :laugh:

[Sikeliot]

Horners are mulattoes, the only difference is their African side is indigenous East African (think Maasai), and their Caucasoid side is from SW Asia.

[YeshAtid]

Horners do tend to exhibit caucasoid features, but I can't think of anyone who claims they're European.

[YeshAtid]

It's quite obvious that the honourable and morally upright Michel Friedman is the epitome of whiteness, everybody else is merely derived from mongrel stock. Actually, in hindsight it appears that only SS-Gruppenführer Sternwalkure fits such a criteria.
Oy vey!
http://polpix.sueddeutsche.com/bild/1.1079953.1355665146/860x860/reden-geld-michel-friedman.jpg

[Gaston]

Mulattos share the non-West Eurasian ancestry of their Euro ancestors with Europeans so it makes them close. But some pred-Eurasian Horners, especially Semitic-speaking are still actually closer to Europeans than mulattos are.


Horners are mulattoes, the only difference is their African side is indigenous East African (think Maasai), and their Caucasoid side is from SW Asia.

They are not mulattos. West and East African ancestry are as closely related if not less as European is to East Eurasian. Besides, Europeans are mixed too and part of this mixed ancestry passed to their mulatto offsprings is lacking in Horners. Usually, Euro-black mixed people end up slightly shifted to the East compared to Horners in global plots, even without any kind of Native American or East Asian ancestry.

This plot is quite clear and you can see where mulattos would end up, which is between AA5 and AA30 ( highly Euro-admixed African Americans), close to a few black Southern Moroccans.
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7120/82953711.png

[Mazik]

Genetically speaking Horners are Eastafrican/Southwestasian. But what you tiny faggot brain still can't understand is that they are neither 'Caucasoid' or 'negroid' since this mixture took place thousands of years ago but probably both components were more or less proto-caucasoid based on several skull findings in this region. This mixture dates at least 3000 years (South Semitic languages reached Horn of Africa)when Negroids haven't reached Eastafrica yet and Caucasoid skulls have been already found in Eastafrica which predate the arrival of Southwestasians in Eastafrica.
Archaic aurignacoid variants(call it 'proto-Aethiopid/Mediterranoid) existed in East Africa about 10,000 years ago and at that time were already spread far up in the southeast of Africa, which can be detected using various skull discoveries in Kenya and Tanzania.



The Mesolithic people of Kenya and Tanzania have surprisingly narrow noses, narrow faces, narrow forehead, receding cheekbones, long skulls, and in most cases, orthognathic.

Apart from Combe Capelle, Dolni Vestonice and the East African skulls, there ís no skull find with high level of awareness which has so strong leptodolichomorphic characteristics and which is at the same age.
The Kenyan Mesolithic skulls were measured by the anthropologist W.W. Howells. He came to the opinion that these people were not Negroids, but Caucasoid(Europoids). The reason is that the vast majority of form-features of a aethiopid skull, is not distinguishable from the skull of a Gracile-mediterranid or Arabid.

The skull of Combe Capelle (Southern France) is not Upper Paleolithic age, as was thought earlier, but as recently discovered, epipaleolithic as the East African skulls.

Or Caucasoid skull findings in Kenya which predate any Southwestasian invasion:



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http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-II09.htm


So taking all these into consideration we can only speculate how primeval Southwestasians and Eastafricans have looked like. What makes most sense is that both components were more or less Caucasoid(see skull findings in Eastafrica) and hence Horners just present a modern day continuum between SSA, Northeastafrica and the Arabian peninsula. A continuum which was always more or less 'caucasoid'(based on skull findings) like hence you can say that 'caucasoid' features already evolved in the Horn of Africa, but with several ranges of tropical adaption (dark skin, fuller lips, curlier hair).

Hence the claim that Horners are mongrels is based on zero evidences but based on your ignorance.

We know that the Gumuz people from Ethiopia got the highest East African component, this is what they look like:

http://southernsudan.prm.ox.ac.uk/images/midsize/1998.344.214.2_O.jpg

Like true primitive looking bantu niggers :puke

The highest SW Asian component is found among Yemeni's:

http://ziomania.com/yemen/images/yemeni108.jpg


So....

http://southernsudan.prm.ox.ac.uk/images/midsize/1998.344.214.2_O.jpg


+


http://ziomania.com/yemen/images/yemeni108.jpg


=


Typical Horners of today:

http://avpixlat.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/somalier.jpg

http://balkeena.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/somalier.jpg

= the product of mixing between Yemeni-looking people and Gumuz-looking people for ages => extreme case of mongrels. And then adding several generations of inbreeding. Then you got your average Horner. Hence their extremely gross and deformed appearance.


Horner intelligence, trying to use an escalator:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVz3GgAWUyM

[Kiyant]

This is also a troll Thread