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Tooting Carmen
02-01-2014, 11:22 PM
Heidi Alexander, Lewisham East, London
http://www.labour.org.uk/images/people/832/heidi_alexander_250.jpg

Jonathan Ashworth, Leicester South, East Midlands
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Jon_Ashworth_MP.jpg

William Bain, Glasgow North East, Scotland
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/WillieBainMP.jpg

Stephen Barclay, North East Cambridgeshire, East of England
http://www.wisbechstandard.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1526sw513_1_2180044!image/1920873391.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/1920873391.jpg

Jake Berry, Rossendale and Darwen, Northwest England
http://www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/images/imgstore/268_hu8b2eb6f8.jpg

Nicola Blackwood, Oxford West and Abingdon, Southeast England
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nicola-Blackwood-Oxford-2010-Headshot.jpg

Tom Blenkinsop, Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland, Northeast England
http://i1.gazettelive.co.uk/incoming/article3611392.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/middlesbrough-south-and-east-cleveland-mp-tom-blenkinsop-73501017-3611392.jpg

Steve Brine, Winchester, Southeast England
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/resources/images/1255012.jpg%3Ftype%3DarticlePortrait

Aidan Burley (born in New Zealand), Cannock Chase, West Midlands
http://www.thejc.com/files/imagecache/body_landscape/aidan-burley.jpg

Dan Byles, North Warwickshire, West Midlands
http://www.danbyles.co.uk/conservatives/files/dan_byles/imagecache/image_picker/Dan%20Byles%201_15.jpg

Damian Collins, Folkestone and Hythe, Southeast England
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/04/article-2022237-0D4A482000000578-523_306x423.jpg

Stella Creasy, Walthamstow, London
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/7/30/1248943285618/Stella-Creasy-Labour-parl-001.jpg

Tracey Crouch, Chatham and Aylesford, Southeast England
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CWeK-2n2ek4/UURainb9bbI/AAAAAAAAEHk/X1GxrXMYhZ8/s1600/crouch_450.jpg

Philip Davies, Shipley, Yorkshire
http://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Philip-Davies-MP.jpg

Thomas Docherty, Dunfermline and West Fife, Scotland
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/04/article-2303723-0978664A000005DC-1_306x423.jpg

Gemma Doyle, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland
http://www.labour.org.uk/images/people/928/gemma_doyle_250.jpg

Michael Dugher, Barnsley East, Yorkshire
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02739/MICHAEL-DUGHER_2739601b.jpg

Jonathan Edwards, Carmarthen East and Dinefwr, Wales
http://www.walesbusiness.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jeds.jpg

Chris Evans, Islwyn, Wales
http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/CB/8B6279A8C4D08C6C6F2C144535A0E2.jpg

Stephen Gilbert, St Austell and Newquay, Southwest England
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Steve_Gilbert_Mugshot.JPG

Smaug
02-01-2014, 11:35 PM
Mostly English.

Graham
02-01-2014, 11:37 PM
You missed a couple of MPS in that age group. That I know of up here.

Pamela Nash -- Airdrie and Shotts
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTAHl6OFGHwS7K0KTggaDtJcYe8PG85 RZB9jOuV8H9Q_gq23cGOQ
Jo Swinson -- East Dunbartonshire
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01022/SNA1209JS-280_1022754a.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-02-2014, 12:06 AM
John Glen, Salisbury, Southwest England
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451b31c69e2017d42fc770c970c-pi

Zac Goldsmith, Richmond Park, London
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jm6UMq8gGZ8/TVMAjMJZytI/AAAAAAAAACY/f5AscfNYkOA/s1600/Zach%2BGoldsmith.jpg

Tom Greatrex, Rutherglen and Hamilton West, Scotland
http://www.tomgreatrex.org/uploads/thumbs/L_86467400-05f2-62a4-4da7-0241c62c821d.jpg

Ben Gummer, Ipswich, East of England
http://ipswichspy.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/ben-gummer-westminster.jpg

Duncan Hames, Chippenham, Southwest England
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49928000/jpg/_49928949_008399408-2.jpg

Matthew Hancock, West Suffolk, East of England
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/imagelibrary/Client%20Images/Client00004/00209000/00209418.jpg

Tristram Hunt, Stoke-on-Trent Central, West Midlands
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02747/Tristram-hunt_2747951c.jpg

Dr Julian Huppert, Cambridge, East of England
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/deborahmcgurran/Julian_Huppert.jpg

Dan Jarvis, Barnsley Central, Yorkshire
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000148452540/1a6965d3948e55b5c8189c98127e3dbc.jpeg

Marcus Jones, Nuneaton, West Midlands
http://www.brake.org.uk/assets/images/Whatshappening/marcus_jones.jpg

Jessica Lee, Erewash, East Midlands
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/275778/Article/images/18618819/4727884-large.jpg

Charlotte Leslie, Bristol North West, Southwest England
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49928000/jpg/_49928110_008210214-1.jpg

Chris Leslie, Nottingham East, East Midlands
http://www.chrisleslie.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Chris-Leslie-portrait-cropped-high-res-Jan-2010-4.jpg

Emma Lewell-Buck, South Shields, Northeast England
http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/southshieldslabour/pages/63/attachments/original/1366985530/emma_lifeboat_wouldhave.jpg?1366985530

Alison McGovern, Wirral South, Northwest England
http://www.totalpolitics.com/article_images/articledir_654/327052/1_articleimage.jpg

Catherine McKinnell, Newcastle Upon Tyne North, Northeast England
http://apprenticeshipblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/catherine-mckinnell-9052785661.jpg

Stephen McPartland, Stevenage, East of England
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Stephen_McPartland.JPG

Paul Maynard, Blackpool North and Cleveleys, Northwest England
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Paul_Maynard_MP_for_Blackpool_North_%26_Cleveleys_ Profile_Shot.jpg

Nigel Mills, Amber Valley, East Midlands
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276250/Article/images/20237345/5562529-large.jpg

Penny Mordaunt, Portsmouth North, Southeast England
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/multimedia/dynamic/00217/Penny-Mordaunt-1024_217441k.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-02-2014, 12:07 AM
You missed a couple of MPS in that age group. That I know of up here.

Pamela Nash -- Airdrie and Shotts
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTAHl6OFGHwS7K0KTggaDtJcYe8PG85 RZB9jOuV8H9Q_gq23cGOQ
Jo Swinson -- East Dunbartonshire
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01022/SNA1209JS-280_1022754a.jpg

I am doing them in alphabetical order, and I can only post a maximum of twenty images at a time.:picard1: But thank you anyway.

Graham
02-02-2014, 12:12 AM
Mostly English.

Most politicians represent in British Parliament are English funnily enough. :)

533 English MP's
40 Welsh MP's
59 Scottish MP's
18 Norn irish MP's

Tooting Carmen
02-02-2014, 12:43 AM
Nicky Morgan, Loughborough, East Midlands
http://www.inloughborough.com/newsimages/nickymorgan.jpg

Stephen Mosley, City of Chester, Northwest England
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/47871000/jpg/_47871788_007897879-1.jpg

Ian Murray, Edinburgh South, Scotland
http://www.labour.org.uk/images/people/919/ian_murray_250.jpg

Andrew Percy, Brigg and Goole, Yorkshire
http://legacymedia.localworld.co.uk/275801/Article/images/13163575/3113031.png

Bridget Phillipson, Houghton and Sunderland South, Northeast England
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000582142057/42e8e0d9708a3c5eb9e11708dfa6a5c6.jpeg

Dan Poulter, Central Suffolk and Ipswich North, East of England
http://www.eadt.co.uk/polopoly_fs/sp_012_poulter_abattoir_6_1_1236294!image/1192061877.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/1192061877.jpg

Lucy Powell, Manchester Central, Northwest England
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article6674209.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/pg-26-diary-pa2.jpg

Jamie Reed, Copeland, Northwest England
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/richardmoss/jamiereed.jpg

Rachel Reeves, Leeds West, Yorkshire
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Rachelwikinew.jpg

Emma Reynolds, Wolverhampton North East, West Midlands
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1539686370/cropped_Emma_Letterhead_Draft_Aug_11.jpg

Dan Rogerson, North Cornwall, Southwest England
http://legacymedia.localworld.co.uk/275776/Article/images/14436439/3473690.png

Andy Sawford, Corby, East Midlands
http://labourlist.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/andy-sawford.jpg

Alec Shelbrooke, Elmet and Rothwell, Yorkshire
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02334/Shelbrooke_2334839b.jpg

Chris Skidmore, Kingswood, Southwest England
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55410000/jpg/_55410648_jex_1169901_de53-1.jpg

Chloe Smith, Norwich North, East of England
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Chloesmith.JPG

Andrew Stephenson, Pendle, Northwest England
http://media.tumblr.com/7a318dab8b2bbe6c6bc71f3a4dc63196/tumblr_inline_mr2j5bo25F1qz4rgp.jpg

Rory Stewart, Penrith and the Border, Scotland
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45185000/jpg/_45185608_rorystewart_512288_bbc.jpg

Sarah Teather, Brent Central, London
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01405/Sarah-Teather_1405462a.jpg

Justin Tomlinson, North Swindon, Southwest England
http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/UserData/8/7/2/Info00000278/bigmug.jpg

Elizabeth Truss, South West Norfolk, East of England
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/11/2/1257186550204/liz-truss-001.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-02-2014, 12:56 AM
Robin Walker, Worcester, West Midlands
http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/resources/images/1278876.jpg%3Ftype%3Ddisplay

James Wharton, Stockton South, Northeast England
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8619879.ece/BINARY/original/v2-james-wharton-PA.jpg

Gavin Williamson, South Staffordshire, West Midlands
http://www.southstaffsconservatives.org.uk/sites/www.southstaffsconservatives.org.uk/files/locations/gavin_williamson.png

Jenny Willott, Cardiff Central, Wales
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Jenny_Willott%2C_September_2009_1_cropped.jpg

John Woodcock, Barrow and Furness, Northwest England
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000815227088/9ce5fea666026d695aeaa6d80927f53d.jpeg

Iain Wright, Hartlepool, Northeast England
http://www.iainwrightmp.org.uk/images/b_left_pic.jpg

Simon Wright, Norwich South, East of England
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2575890028/5z22qm83zndg5dws4z3g.jpeg


The reason why I wanted to make this thread, quite apart from demonstrating what native British people look like, is as a riposte against those who hold the prejudice that politicians are all old and are thus not good representatives of ethnic groups and nationalities.

Mans not hot
02-02-2014, 01:19 AM
Dan Jarvis, Barnsley Central, Yorkshire
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000148452540/1a6965d3948e55b5c8189c98127e3dbc.jpeg

Pred. textbook Kelticnordid.

Caismeachd
02-02-2014, 01:20 AM
http://whyfiles.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/4.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-02-2014, 02:27 AM
bump

Tooting Carmen
02-04-2014, 04:03 PM
2nd bump

alnortedelsur
02-05-2014, 02:16 AM
Most of them would stand out in Spain.

But I found a few ones who might look like light Iberians:

Heidi Alexander
Stephen Barclay
Tom Blenkinsop
Pamela Nash
John Glen
Jessica Lee
Chris Leslie
Penny Mordaunt
Andrew Percy
Lucy Powell
Jamie Reed
Andy Sawford
Chloe Smith
Sarah Teather

I am not good with classifications, but... is that possible that all this ones listed by me, share an Atlantid phenotype??

If that's the case, that would explain why I find them, somewhat similar to light Iberians. Since the Atlantid type is very common among Iberians and British Islanders. Is one of the few types that Iberians and British share in common.

Tooting Carmen
02-05-2014, 02:18 AM
Most of them would stand out in Spain.

Well you said it, not me. And remember, this is the British we are talking about, not Swedes and Danes.



But I found a few ones who might look like light Iberians:

Heidi Alexander
Stephen Barclay
Tom Blenkinsop
Pamela Nash
John Glen
Jessica Lee
Chris Leslie
Penny Mordaunt
Andrew Percy
Lucy Powell
Jamie Reed
Andy Sawford
Chloe Smith
Sarah Teather

I am not good with classifications, but... is that possible that all this ones listed by me, share an Atlantid phenotype??

If that's the case, that would explain why I find them, somewhat similar to light Iberians. Since the Atlantid type is very common among Iberians and British Islanders. Is one of the few types that Iberians and British share in common.

Quite a few of them in other words. Yes, Atlantids are common in both countries.

alnortedelsur
02-05-2014, 02:31 AM
Well you said it, not me. And remember, this is the British we are talking about, not Swedes and Danes.



Quite a few of them in other words. Yes, Atlantids are common in both countries.

14 out of 67, which is about 20% of them would pass as light Iberians. So they are no that few, percentage wise, as you suggest.

However the percentage of Iberians who would pass in Britain is higher than the percentage of British who would pass in Iberia.

And I forgot to add that probably the second one (Jonathan Ashworth) could also pass as light Iberian. So they would be actually 15 out of 67.

BTW: are all the ones listed by me Atlantids??

Tooting Carmen
02-05-2014, 02:33 AM
However the percentage of Iberians who would pass in Britain is higher than the percentage of British who would pass in Iberia.

How come?

alnortedelsur
02-05-2014, 02:42 AM
How come?

I mean that there is a higher percentage of Atlantid or partially Atlantid (Atlanto-meds, Atlantid-Alpinids, Atlantid-cromagnids, etc) people in Iberia than in Britain, being the case that Britain has more variety of other sub-types (absent or almost absent in Iberia) other than Atlantid. That's why there is a higher percentage of Iberians who could pass as Atlantid British than Atlantid British who could pass as Atlantid Iberians.

And besides, yourself admitted that Southern Euros have more chances to pass (percentage wise) as Northern Euros than the other way around.

And with "pass in Britain" I don't mean that those Iberians that "pass in Britain" look like average British, but they have a significant overlap with an important segment of the British population. In this case, with those British who are Atlantid or Atlantid influenced, Makes sense??

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 06:47 PM
2nd bump
Huppert's Jewish though still white.

Tooting Carmen
02-08-2014, 06:52 PM
Huppert's Jewish though still white.

Only partially. Zac Goldsmith's grandfather was Jewish too, but most of the rest of his ancestry is British Isles. Anyway, both have a pretty British look to me - Goldsmith even resembles Tristram Hunt somewhat.

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 06:54 PM
Only partially. Zac Goldsmith's grandfather was Jewish too, but most of the rest of his ancestry is British Isles. Anyway, both have a pretty British look to me - Goldsmith even resembles Tristram Hunt somewhat.
Huppert 's fully Jewish though. He has a stereotypical Eastern European Jewish look, hint his red hair.

Tooting Carmen
02-08-2014, 06:57 PM
Huppert 's fully Jewish though. He has a stereotypical Eastern European Jewish look, hint his red hair.

Native Brits can often have red hair too.:picard1: Wikipedia, which is usually very thorough about these things, doesn't even mention him being Jewish, although it does for his father - so I assume his mother isn't Jewish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huppert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Huppert

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 06:58 PM
Native Brits can often have red hair too.:picard1: Wikipedia, which is usually very thorough about these things, doesn't even mention him being Jewish, although it does for his father - so I assume his mother isn't Jewish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huppert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Huppert

Despite my Jewish background, or more likely because of it, I am deeply critical of Israel’s approach.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/holocaust-memorial-day-and-a-response-to-david-ward-32865.html

Graham
02-08-2014, 07:15 PM
It's not uncommon for a Jewish influence in some politicians(still small) or in Journalism.

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 07:17 PM
It's not uncommon for a Jewish influence in some politicians(still small) or in Journalism.
Education and a strong work ethic is ingrained into their culture.

Graham
02-08-2014, 07:20 PM
Education and a strong work ethic is ingrained into their culture.

A lot of book reading. Jewish always stick up for their own also. Sort of clannish. Easier to get up the ladder.

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 07:22 PM
A lot of book reading. Jewish always stick up for their own also. Sort of clannish.
And a strong focus on the sciences in particular. They're no more clannish than anyone else. I know a Jewish woman from Glasgow and she considers herself Scottish first, Jewish second. Scottish Jews are often quite patriotic, no?

Tooting Carmen
02-08-2014, 07:27 PM
It's not uncommon for a Jewish influence in some politicians(still small) or in Journalism.

They do tend to enter into those occupations in relatively high numbers, along with business too. Much like how South Asians are highly represented in I.T., business, law and medicine, and how Black people are highly represented in music, sport and fashion.

Graham
02-08-2014, 07:28 PM
And a strong focus on the sciences in particular. They're no more clannish than anyone else. I know a Jewish woman from Glasgow and she considers herself Scottish first, Jewish second. Scottish Jews are often quite patriotic, no?

I don't know any, to know. From I've heard. They are quite peaceful. Get on well with anyone, including Muslims.

Is she Jewish? Was wandering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Kuenssberg

YeshAtid
02-08-2014, 07:29 PM
I don't know any, to know. From I've heard. They are quite peaceful. Get on well with anyone, including Muslims.

Is she Jewish? Was wandering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Kuenssberg
They're very well integrated.
She's half German, but its Lutheran.

Tooting Carmen
02-08-2014, 07:35 PM
As fascinating as this incipient discussion about British Jews is, with all due respect may we please stay on topic?

EDIT: I have a separate thread about Jewish politicians in Britain, so you can discuss them there: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113009-Classify-these-Jewish-politicians-from-Britain-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=jewish+politicians+britain

Tooting Carmen
02-13-2014, 01:27 PM
Here are Dan Jarvis and Nicola Blackwood again:
http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/216521/category_image_update_29a54e5819b67011_1370787903_ 9j-4aaqsk.jpeg http://176.32.230.22/oxfordshireconservatives.com/files/8213/7631/7486/NCB.jpeg

Tooting Carmen
04-25-2014, 03:07 AM
Here are some others whose photos have been lost:

Stephen Barclay
http://www.brake.org.uk/assets/images/parliamentarian-awards/SteveBarclayMP.jpg

Dr Julian Huppert
http://peacechild.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Julian-Huppert-Stock-Photo-2012.jpg

Dan Poulter
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02176/dan_2176443b.jpg

Jamie Reed
http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/northregion/pages/62/attachments/original/1379425254/MP_Jamie_Reed.JPG?1379425254

James Wharton
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/7/4/1372967052087/James-Wharton-010.jpg

Tooting Carmen
08-02-2014, 01:23 PM
Stephen Doughty, Cardiff South & Penarth, Wales
http://wales.party.coop/files/2012/11/stephendoughty.jpeg?a6241c

Ulla
08-02-2014, 06:49 PM
Nicola Blackwood, Oxford West and Abingdon, Southeast England
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nicola-Blackwood-Oxford-2010-Headshot.jpg


Is Nicola common in England for females? In Italy is a male name.

Graham
08-02-2014, 10:05 PM
Is Nicola common in England for females? In Italy is a male name.

It is for women yes. Nicol for men, nicola for women. Or even nicole for women.

interes
08-02-2014, 10:13 PM
most look celtic/nordid

Tooting Carmen
09-24-2014, 10:19 PM
Here is Heidi Alexander again
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1061922.jpg

Tooting Carmen
10-23-2014, 12:52 AM
Tom Greatrex, Matthew Hancock, Ben Gummer and Gemma Doyle again
http://www.smartenergyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tom-greatrex.jpghttp://learning-reimagined.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hancock.jpghttp://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.550012.1280228786!/image/1627203499.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/1627203499.jpghttp://maryhoneyballmep.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/gemma-doyle.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-03-2015, 12:26 AM
Robert Jenrick, Newark, East Midlands (he was elected in a by-election in June 2014, which was after this thread was first made)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VkWJxBi9AgQ/U4wuwtDUZ6I/AAAAAAAAP_w/sgLZX1dpXhA/s1600/Robert+Jenrick.png

Chris Evans again
http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/resources/images/2150093.jpg?type=articleLandscape

Ian Murray again
http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1951443.ece/alternates/s615/Ian-Murray.png

John Woodcock again
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/files/2013/12/John-Woodcock-Labour-MP-for-Barrow-in-Furness-1995270.jpg

Chris Kelly, Dudley South, West Midlands
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03022/Chris-Kelly_3022748c.jpg

pelikarski
02-03-2015, 12:14 PM
From the first post only Jonathan Ashworth, Dan Byles, Philip Davies, Michael Dugher as atypical

Odin
03-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Mainly Brünns, Keltic-Nordids, and Atlanto-Brünns.