Live and let love, LGBT action to support the russian community

[Acquisitor]

it's a bit funny to hear Swedes sing the anthem with a slight accent.

nice action though, not that it can change anything, still nice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KWhaqr1v8s

[Zaycev]

Homosexual rights are a code for anti-russian forces and western-imperialism

http://i29.tinypic.com/6ycvlz.jpg

[Acquisitor]

Homosexual rights are a code for anti-russian forces and western-imperialism

a bit paranoid, don't you think ?

you said you studied law. Doesn't studying law require some intellect ?

[Zaycev]

yes, i'm a walking intellectual bomb

[Acquisitor]

yes, i'm a walking intellectual bomb

yes, and this quote clearly proves it


Homosexual rights are a code for anti-russian forces and western-imperialism

http://i29.tinypic.com/6ycvlz.jpg

[Zaycev]

you're a clown man. you know you're a minority with these opinions in Eastern Europe.

[Brighton]

Homosexual rights are a code for anti-russian forces and western-imperialism

http://i29.tinypic.com/6ycvlz.jpg
Is that a joke??

[Acquisitor]

you're a clown man. you know you're a minority with these opinions in Eastern Europe.

so being a minority whether sexual or not sharing the opinion of the majority makes one wrong ?

are you sure you study law ?

[Zaycev]

so being a minority whether sexual or not sharing the opinion of the majority makes one wrong ?


You will not change countries by enforcing it through mindless, "humanitary" propaganda bullshit like this video.

[Acquisitor]

You will not change countries by enforcing it through mindless, "humanitary" propaganda bullshit like this video.

this video is not meant to change the brutal moronic average russian mind, but it can be a symbol of support for the russian lgbt community which NEEDS support.

you cant deny someone basic rights based on their sexuality, period, such a minority exists everywhere and it should not be suppressed in any way.

[Hierarchalist]

this video is not meant to change the brutal moronic average russian mind, but it can be a symbol of support for the russian lgbt community which NEEDS support.

you cant deny someone basic rights based on their sexuality, period, such a minority exists everywhere and it should not be suppressed in any way.

My bleeding heart friend, getting it up the ass may be the pinnacle of human progress for you and your ilk, but most men find homosexuality and homosexual marriage despicable and repulsive. There is no justification for homosexual marriage. Homosexuality is a parasitical sexual mutation, albeit a harmless one, yet genetically unfit dead-end.


Viva La Putin !! He is the only true western leader left.

[Pontios]

Homosexual propaganda. They shouldn't even bring the Russian anthem out of their filthy mouths.

[glass]

Homosexual propaganda. They shouldn't even bring the Russian anthem out of their filthy mouths.
they just needed a reason sing best anthem in the world do not blame them for it!:)

[Acquisitor]

they just needed a reason sing best anthem in the world do not blame them for it!:)

it used to be, until the new text was written, the soviet text was much more powerful.

[Hierarchalist]

Lol Sweden, the most feminized nation on the planet. I hear Swedish women are more masculine than their men. It is true?

[Acquisitor]

My bleeding heart friend, getting it up the ass may be the pinnacle of human progress for you and your ilk, but most men find homosexuality and homosexual marriage despicable and repulsive. There is no justification for homosexual marriage. Homosexuality is a parasitical sexual mutation, albeit a harmless one, yet genetically unfit dead-end.


Viva La Putin !! He is the only true western leader left.

I dont take it up the ass idiot.

I dont care how most people view those who do, its none of their business what others do or dont.

[VAARON]

there will be freedom , like it or not . socialism cannot survive , only on the suffering of its ppl .

[VAARON]

I dont take it up the ass idiot.

I dont care how most people view those who do, its none of their business what others do or dont.

or in more elegant : it is not business of goverment

[arcticwolf]

they just needed a reason sing best anthem in the world do not blame them for it!:)

I gotta give to you, I love Polish national anthem, but Russian is epic, really the most qualified to be a national anthem of all of them.

Now let's hear it the way it should be sung!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sowpvuK-co8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Hierarchalist]

there will be freedom , like it or not . socialism cannot survive , only on the suffering of its ppl .

Classic American imbecilic response. The Yanks and their simplistic dichotomies - Socialism/capitalism, liberal/conservative, good/evil........I bet you think you live in a "democracy"' right? Lol

[Zaycev]

I dont take it up the ass idiot.

I dont care how most people view those who do, its none of their business what others do or dont.

Exactly. It's none of their business. No one gives a fuck who or what you're fucking in your bedroom.

The problem with most homosexual people however is, they have a need of expressing their "lust" and "sexuality" in society. And society - rightly so - doesn't want to see that.

I have nothing against homosexuals. One of my best friends is gay and he looks like anyother and doesn't behave like some sissy, but I have something against faggots, queers...however you call them.

[Acquisitor]

Exactly. It's none of their business. No one gives a fuck who or what you're fucking in your bedroom.

The problem with most homosexual people however is, they have a need of expressing their "lust" and "sexuality" in society. And society - rightly so - doesn't want to see that.

I have nothing against homosexuals. One of my best friends is gay and he looks like anyother and doesn't behave like some sissy, but I have something against faggots, queers...however you call them.

and straight people don't ?

I mean straight guys dont love to brag about that girl they banged for hours without a condom and making her come ten times in a raw. I mean it never happens right ?

[Zaycev]

and straight people don't ?

I mean straight guys dont love to brag about that girl they banged for hours without a condom and making her come ten times in a raw. I mean it never happens right ?

Straight people do it because we (the straight people) are the majority in the world and you as a homosexual (are you homosexual?) are clearly outnumbered.

Your example is awful. I was not talking about people who brag about what they "achieved" in bed. My critic-point is the way some homosexuals behave in society.
Like utter sissies, you get the point do you? I don't think I need to explain further - you know what I'm talking about.

If you can't tolerate the fact, these sort of homosexuals are not accepted by many people in many countries. So why should we (heterosexuals) tolerate people like LGBT et cetera?
Your argumentation is broken. You don't win arguments automatically if you think you can appoint on Humanism alone.

[Acquisitor]

Straight people do it because we (the straight people) are the majority in the world and you as a homosexual (are you homosexual?) are clearly outnumbered.

Your example is awful. I was not talking about people who brag about what they "achieved" in bed. My critic-point is the way some homosexuals behave in society.
Like utter sissies, you get the point do you? I don't think I need to explain further - you know what I'm talking about.

If you can't tolerate the fact, these sort of homosexuals are not accepted by many people in many countries. So why should we (heterosexuals) tolerate people like LGBT et cetera?
Your argumentation is broken. You don't win arguments automatically if you think you can appoint on Humanism alone.

what country do you study law in ? what grade are you in ? srsly.

[Zaycev]

Instead of avoiding my texts, you utter waste of space, you should get on discussing it, or jog the fuck on.

Idiot.

[Acquisitor]

Instead of avoiding my texts, you utter waste of space, you should get on discussing it, or jog the fuck on.

Idiot.

how can one discuss something with an utter moron ? its just not possible.

your text is so moronic that its not worth discussing.

[Zaycev]

well then keep on typing your shit, don't think a lot on here care anyway.

Why am I even discussing with you about this matter? You're probably not even homosexual. Just one of the many pseudo "open-minded" zapadnik scummers, who have some abstract problem with themselves.

[Feral]

Exactly. It's none of their business. No one gives a fuck who or what you're fucking in your bedroom.

The problem with most homosexual people however is, they have a need of expressing their "lust" and "sexuality" in society. And society - rightly so - doesn't want to see that.

I have nothing against homosexuals. One of my best friends is gay and he looks like anyother and doesn't behave like some sissy, but I have something against faggots, queers...however you call them.

My gay friends are quite normal, too. They also see "sissy" homosexuals as ridiculous. I think it's about, well, that, being ridiculous. There heterosexuals that are ridiculous in their own way, too. Studipity doesn't discriminates sexuality. :lol:

[glass]

it used to be, until the new text was written, the soviet text was much more powerful.
this might be true i always catch myself singing old soviet text

[Zaycev]

My gay friends are quite normal, too. They also see "sissy" homosexuals as ridiculous.lol:

Same here. They do a lot of damage to their own people.

[Acquisitor]

well then keep on typing your shit, don't think a lot on here care anyway.

Why am I even discussing with you about this matter? You're probably not even homosexual. Just one of the many pseudo "open-minded" zapadnik scummers, who have some abstract problem with themselves.

if you are curious whether I'm homosexual, why dont you come over, remove you pants and bend over. And see whether I stick my sausage into you or not.

My orientation is irrelevant.

Your moronic idiocy can be summed up in one sentence which you wrote, let me quote it:



Straight people do it because we (the straight people) are the majority in the world and you as a homosexual (are you homosexual?) are clearly outnumbered.


straight people may brag with their sexual conquests because they are the majority, but homosexuals cant do the same since they are a minority.

you will fail your first grade as a law student.

[Acquisitor]

this might be true i always catch myself singing old soviet text

you are not the only one, the new text is plain lame.

I remember seeing an interview with Tretyak where he said that Canadian players feared the Soviet anthem.

[Zaycev]

straight people may brag with their sexual conquests because they are the majority, but homosexuals cant do the same since they are a minority.

you will fail your first grade as a law student.

No, you didn't get my point. Maybe we should discuss the matter on russian or in german, since I have enough of discussing in english language.

Your perception of heterosexuals expressing their sexuality is logically much bigger, because there are a lot more heterosexuals on the world than homosexuals.
It's not something special and pretty logically if you think, that maybe one of 20 humans of the world is a homosexual (just as a example). Of course, there are a lot more hetero's expressing their Sexuality in society than Homosexuals. If you don't understand what I'm trying to say (you came up with the example with guys bragging about how much girls they fucked.) then I'm very sorry for the language barrier.

[Acquisitor]

My gay friends are quite normal, too. They also see "sissy" homosexuals as ridiculous. I think it's about, well, that, being ridiculous. There heterosexuals that are ridiculous in their own way, too. Studipity doesn't discriminates sexuality. :lol:

either way, its not in someone's hands to forbid actions and behavior of anyone, whether its a masculine or a feminine 'sissy' homosexual.

[Acquisitor]

No, you didn't get my point. Maybe we should discuss the matter on russian or in german, since I have enough of discussing in english language.

Your perception of heterosexuals expressing their sexuality is logically much bigger, because there are a lot more heterosexuals on the world than homosexuals.
It's not something special and pretty logically if you think, that maybe one of 20 humans of the world is a homosexual (just as a example). Of course, there are a lot more hetero's expressing their Sexuality in society than Homosexuals. If you don't understand what I'm trying to say (you came up with the example with guys bragging about how much girls they fucked.) then I'm very sorry for the language barrier.

either way, everyone has his/her unique personality, and as long as doesn't cause harm to anyone I don't see why his/her behavior should be banned by the state.

a sissy homosexual wearing female clothes and behaving as a girl is just as much valuable as everyone else, provided he is not a criminal or so.

[Zaycev]

either way, its not in someone's hands to forbid actions and behavior of anyone, whether its a masculine or a feminine 'sissy' homosexual.

Not in ones hand, yes, but a government can do and forbid whatever they want regarding this and if a nation/state doesn't want the same way with how Homosexuality is dealt with, like in the west, than it's their matter and you got to respect other nations decisions and culture. Dito with the russian matter.

I have enough of zapadniks trying to educate other nations with their bullshit.

[Acquisitor]

Not in ones hand, yes, but a government can do and forbid whatever they want regarding this and if a nation/state doesn't want the same way with how Homosexuality is dealt with, like in the west, than it's their matter and you got to respect other nations decisions and culture. Dito with the russian matter.

I have enough of zapadniks trying to educate other nations with their bullshit.

the government can not, and may not marginalize a sizable minority, it can not limit the freedoms of this minority in any possible way.

thats the core of "zapadnik's countries", it's also a part of the core values which made zapad very successful economically and socially.

[Zaycev]

either way, everyone has his/her unique personality, and as long as doesn't cause harm to anyone I don't see why his/her behavior should be banned by the state.

a sissy homosexual wearing female clothes and behaving as a girl is just as much valuable as everyone else, provided he is not a criminal or so.

you can't see it, nor can I. So what now? It's not in our force to change anything. So why keep on discussing, why keep on with such actions?

[Zaycev]

thats the core of "zapadnik's countries", it's also a part of the core values which made zapad very successful economically and socially.

And now going down the cliff. Exactly.

[Acquisitor]

you can't see it, nor can I. So what now? It's not in our force to change anything. So why keep on discussing, why keep on with such actions?

this forum is here to discuss stuff that most of us, if not all of us, can't change.

why be on this forum then ?

[Hierarchalist]

Exactly. It's none of their business. No one gives a fuck who or what you're fucking in your bedroom.

Oh it does matter, dear boy. Who & what people fuck in their bedrooms matters to a society.

Social rules impose rules of conduct.
Culture dictates sexual behavior.

Release females and males, from this, and return them to primordial sexual practices, with the subtraction of the costs to women for their activities, results in the destruction of the family.

Following your logic, why would you be opposed to fags flaunting their sexuality in public if you don't have anything against them? Do you oppose heterosexual displays of affection in public? You sound like a retard

[Zaycev]

There is a difference between discussing it virtually on a forum and being active irl in forms of demonstrations etc. you get the point.

[Acquisitor]

There is a difference between discussing it virtually on a forum and being active irl in forms of demonstrations etc. you get the point.

do you participate in any movements irl which you have sympathy for ? do you participate in demonstrations for or against anything irl ?

[Zaycev]

Following your logic, why would you be opposed to fags flaunting their sexuality in public if you don't have anything against them? Do you oppose heterosexual displays of affection in public? You sound like a retard

You do read my posts, do you?

[Zaycev]

do you participate in any movements irl which you have sympathy for ? do you participate in demonstrations for or against anything irl ?

1) no
2) yes

[Acquisitor]

1) no
2) yes

ok you do, then it must mean that here on TA you only discuss subjects which are related to your participation in demonstrations, right ?

[Zaycev]

Are you somehow obsessed with my reallife? :confused:

[Acquisitor]

Are you somehow obsessed with my reallife? :confused:

yes, I'm obsessed with your undoubtedly pathetic real life.

this phrase implies that according to you it doesn't make sense to discuss anything on a forum since we cant change anything, so my logical question is: do you only participate in discussions which are related to your real life activities such as protests ?


you can't see it, nor can I. So what now? It's not in our force to change anything. So why keep on discussing, why keep on with such actions?

[Zaycev]

You're a fucking tosser and you lost this discussion.
My presence in demonstrations are not of political reasons. I'm just trying to spread chaos & anarchy :P

The fact you change the subject everytime ceases to amaze me. This thread is not a reportage about my life and my presence in demonstrations, but about the problem with homosexual-demonstrations/actions and the insignificance of it in - especially - eastern european countries.

[Acquisitor]

You're a fucking tosser and you lost this discussion.
My presence in demonstrations are not of political reasons. I'm just trying to spread chaos & anarchy :P

yes, I have lost this discussion to an imbecilic moron :-)

[Zaycev]

You just and will never take the truth, that homosexuality has no chance in eastern europe. Is western europe not enough for you?
Belgium is an abortion of a country, based on morals and culture. Go stick to it you git

[Empecinado]

These LGTB demonstrations are ridiculous. I have a homo friend who consider it a shame.

[Proctor]

You're a fucking tosser and you lost this discussion.
My presence in demonstrations are not of political reasons. I'm just trying to spread chaos & anarchy :P

The fact you change the subject everytime ceases to amaze me. This thread is not a reportage about my life and my presence in demonstrations, but about the problem with homosexual-demonstrations/actions and the insignificance of it in - especially - eastern european countries.

Ah, a statist anarchist, quite funny.

[Acquisitor]

You just and will never take the truth, that homosexuality has no chance in eastern europe. Is western europe not enough for you?
Belgium is an abortion of a country, based on morals and culture. Go stick to it you git

homosexuality happens in Eastern Europe every moment in time, massively. That's not the point, the point is that the government shouldn't interfere with who people prefer to love and to have sex with.

[Empecinado]

homosexuality happens in Eastern Europe every moment in time, massively. That's not the point, the point is that the government shouldn't interfere with who people prefer to love and to have sex with.

What's your point? Homosexuality is not illegal there.

[Zaycev]

What's your point? Homosexuality is not illegal there.

That's what most people don't understand.

Even though he speaks russian, he knows shit about the ocuntry.

Absolute dickhead

[Hierarchalist]

Homos should to be subjected to culling, like they always have. They should be forced back into the closet

[Acquisitor]

What's your point? Homosexuality is not illegal there.

the point is that Putin's laws made gays/Lesbians etc scapegoats in the country. The "hunt" for gays has started after the law was passed.

[Zaycev]

well then, let's kill some faggots on moskovsky ulitzy

[Empecinado]

the point is that Putin's laws made gays/Lesbians etc scapegoats in the country. The "hunt" for gays has started after the law was passed.

I'm sure this "hunt" predates the law. Some random attacks on homos can't be considered a hunt just because the media has published it btw, Russia is big and it's a matter of probability that there are some attacks time to time.

[Zaycev]

A much bigger and more important problem are the attacks on immigrants and not on some few homosexuals.

[Acquisitor]

I'm sure this "hunt" predates the law. Some random attacks on homos can't be considered a hunt just because the media has published it btw, Russia is big and it's a matter of probability that there are some attacks time to time.

the law also gives the society a signal that its ok to neglect the rights of a minority + ofc people can easily be framed and sent to jail

aint it too obvious.

[Geni]

Shit, acquisitor love this thread..Gaysbians of all countries, unite!

[rob211080]

Liberal faggotry..

[Empecinado]

the law also gives the society a signal that its ok to neglect the rights of a minority + ofc people can easily be framed and sent to jail

aint it too obvious.

As long the homosexuality is not illegal and aggresions against homos are punished , such minority "rights" are not threatened.

It's just propaganda, here some months ago in Barcelona the police killed a homo and aggresion against homos happens time to time (somewhat statistically irrelevant because we are 45 million people), and you don't see the international media talking about homosexual hunts.

[Acquisitor]

As long the homosexuality is not illegal and aggresions against homos are punished , such minority "rights" are not threatened.

It's just propaganda, here some months ago in Barcelona the police killed a homo and aggresion against homos happens time to time (somewhat statistically irrelevant because we are 45 million people), and you don't see the international media talking about homosexual hunts.

the aggression against homo's is not punished, the police dont care.

there is a movement to hunt for them, to humiliate them, to beat them, to let them drink urine etc, vk.com is filled with such videos.

[Zaycev]

Acquisitor get's a new life-meaning by defending this thread from people like us

[Empecinado]

the aggression against homo's is not punished, the police dont care.

Then the corruption among the police is to blame for, not the law. And, as you now, police corruption affects to all average citizens, not only gays.


there is a movement to hunt for them, to humiliate them, to beat them, to let them drink urine etc, vk.com is filled with such videos.

How many people are involved in this? Some dozens, maybe hundreds, within a population of several hundreds of million inhabitants? You can't say it's a hunt if only a few people are involved. We have skin-head groups that attack homos too, then I guess we have a hunt of homos here as well.

[Acquisitor]

Then the corruption among the police is to blame for, not the law. And, as you now, police corruption affects to all average citizens, not only gays.

the law made them the scapegoats of the society, and people redirected their retarded vodka fueled anger at them. The law AND the police are to blame, and so are the authorities.




How many people are involved in this? Some dozens, maybe hundreds, within a population of several hundreds of million inhabitants? You can't say it's a hunt if only a few people are involved. We have skin-head groups that attack homos too, then I guess we have a hunt of homos here as well.

I have seen quite many "obvious" gays in Spain and Turkey (two countries I visit a lot), they were never bothered by anyone, I dont think that obvious gays can walk outside in Russia as easily.

[Empecinado]

the law made them the scapegoats of the society, and people redirected their retarded vodka fueled anger at them. The law AND the police are to blame, and so are the authorities.

I need a more accurate explanation...how does this law make them a scapegoat?



I have seen quite many "obvious" gays in Spain and Turkey (two countries I visit a lot), they were never bothered by anyone, I dont think that obvious gays can walk outside in Russia as easily.

I don't think neither that there are gay hunting groups chasing gays in every corner of Russia, just some dozens whose crimes are overly published by media to create the feeling that gays are being routinely persecuted. My former gf lives in Moscow and she had a obvious gay as teacher (who work as model too) in her university and as far as I know he has not been attacked.

[Trun]

a sissy homosexual wearing female clothes and behaving as a girl is just as much valuable as everyone else, provided he is not a criminal or so.

Valuable in what way? Such idiot will be treated as the lowest scum by society because he is breaking the moral law. I'd not be arrested if I slap a random girl's ass but then her boyfriend would beat me and rightfully so.

[Acquisitor]

Valuable in what way? Such idiot will be treated as the lowest scum by society because he is breaking the moral law. I'd not be arrested if I slap a random girl's ass but then her boyfriend would beat me and rightfully so.

that's the whole point, its his right to wear half feminine clothes, its his basic freedom of choice.

some east european retards will never understand the full concept of personal freedom.

[Empecinado]

that's the whole point, its his right to wear half feminine clothes, its his basic freedom of choice.

some east european retards will never understand the full concept of personal freedom.

I accept that everyone has the right to wear as he likes, but if his choice is to wear femenine clothes he can't expect to be accepted as normal by society so he has to accept that people will look down at him, won't hire him for a job and will consider him to be a clown. This is accepted even by a gay friend I have.

[Acquisitor]

I need a more accurate explanation...how does this law make them a scapegoat?

the russian society consists of many people who's parents were drunk when concepting them, resulting in many russians being overly aggressive in general. Every aggressive person needs to release his anger every once in a while.

this Putin's law which was meant to protect children from the influence of dealing with reality that sometimes people of the same gender can have feelings for each other has shown the society that "gays are the problem and dont have any rights", resulting in psychotic elements of the society releasing their hatred on them on a massive scale.

think about this: during the demonstrations in Greece people destroyed and looted stores and other property which clearly had nothing to do with the crisis or the government. People used demonstrations and riots to release their anger. In Russia gays, lesbians etc serve the same purpose.

[Trun]

that's the whole point, its his right to wear half feminine clothes, its his basic freedom of choice.

some east european retards will never understand the full concept of personal freedom.

Personal freedom is one thing, bragging about it and awaiting approval another.

As I said, it's my personal freedom to grab an ass in the bus but then I should expect something bad. And if I start to brag about it on the street loudly "look at me, I grabbed dat girl's juicy ass" people would think I'm a psycho, pervert or retarded.

That's what society here thinks about faggits who brag about their sexuality.

[Acquisitor]

I accept that everyone has the right to wear as he likes, but if his choice is to wear femenine clothes he can't expect to be accepted as normal by society so he has to accept that people will look down at him, won't hire him for a job and will consider him to be a clown. This is accepted even by a gay friend I have.

he can expect being accepted, and can expect to be treated as equal while wearing whatever he wants, since its his basic freedom of expression.

[Acquisitor]

Personal freedom is one thing, bragging about it and awaiting approval another.

As I said, it's my personal freedom to grab an ass in the bus but then I should expect something bad. And if I start to brag about it on the street loudly "look at me, I grabbed dat girl's juicy ass" people would think I'm a psycho, pervert or retarded.

That's what society here thinks about faggits who brag about their sexuality.

grabbing girl's ass is causing problems to someone, it goes against liberal thinking in every possible way.

wearing what you like does not cause problems to anyone and should be accepted. if it makes you angry then its your problem, and not the problem of whoever wears what he likes.

same applies to people like these two, its their way to express their uniqueness and individuality:

yet something tells me that you accept their clothes, since it "doesn't make you angry".

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gZP3hMJS7v4/TLT1NMaX13I/AAAAAAAAAJc/GFOJazNbygk/s1600/Punk_rockers_by_Acharai.jpg

[Empecinado]

the russian society consists of many people who's parents were drunk when concepting them, resulting in many russians being overly aggressive in general. Every aggressive person needs to release his anger every once in a while.

this Putin's law which was meant to protect children from the influence of dealing with reality that sometimes people of the same gender can have feelings for each other has shown the society that "gays are the problem and dont have any rights", resulting in psychotic elements of the society releasing their hatred on them on a massive scale.

think about this: during the demonstrations in Greece people destroyed and looted stores and other property which clearly had nothing to do with the crisis or the government. People used demonstrations and riots to release their anger. In Russia gays, lesbians etc serve the same purpose.

Still it doesn't means that such law make them a scapegoat, it's a certain part of society who turns them into scapegoats. And I'm sure most of these aggresive people attacks mainly random people.

[Empecinado]

he can expect being accepted, and can expect to be treated as equal while wearing whatever he wants, since its his basic freedom of expression.

He has freedom to wear what he likes, but the rest of people have the freedom to reject him too. This is how freedom works, you can't force the other people to accept bizarre things.

[Feral]

Yeah... because punks were so accepted when they emerged. They even called them "punks" because of respect, obviusly.

[Trun]

wearing what you like does not cause problems to anyone and should be accepted. if it makes you angry then its your problem, and not the problem of whoever wears what he likes.

A man wearing female clothes is a disrespect to men's nature. It's logical that most men would get angry as they will see it as a mockery.

[Acquisitor]

A man wearing female clothes is a disrespect to men's nature. It's logical that most men would get angry as they will see it as a mockery.

its not logical, its pathetic and barbarian. Its a basic freedom of expression. The problem is the men who mock him, and not the victim.

[Acquisitor]

Still it doesn't means that such law make them a scapegoat, it's a certain part of society who turns them into scapegoats. And I'm sure most of these aggresive people attacks mainly random people.

the certain part of the society was given a signal "here is the problem", and thats just wrong that they were given such a signal.


He has freedom to wear what he likes, but the rest of people have the freedom to reject him too. This is how freedom works, you can't force the other people to accept bizarre things.

reject on a personal level = yes, mock and beat = no.

[Empecinado]

the certain part of the society was given a signal "here is the problem", and thats just wrong that they were given such a signal.

The link is very weak.




reject on a personal level = yes, mock and beat = no.

I agree on beat being illegal, of course, but not about mock. Just imagine that someone go dressed as that:

http://www.newageman.co.uk/sites/default/files/foldered_images/halloween_2013/halloween_costumes_2013_07.jpg

...people obviously will mock on him, do you think he has the right to demand those ones who mock on him? xD

[Acquisitor]

...people obviously will mock on him, do you think he has the right to demand those ones who mock on him? xD

doesnt this pic come from a pride parade of some kind ?

[InperatoreBT]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/bc/bce75a4833876ba231495f5bfe89fd1641f41a9e0024de5d92 082981337607c8.jpg

[Empecinado]

doesnt this pic come from a pride parade of some kind ?

Don't know, probably it does.

[Zaycev]

grabbing girl's ass is causing problems to someone, it goes against liberal thinking in every possible way.

wearing what you like does not cause problems to anyone and should be accepted. if it makes you angry then its your problem, and not the problem of whoever wears what he likes.

same applies to people like these two, its their way to express their uniqueness and individuality:

yet something tells me that you accept their clothes, since it "doesn't make you angry".

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gZP3hMJS7v4/TLT1NMaX13I/AAAAAAAAAJc/GFOJazNbygk/s1600/Punk_rockers_by_Acharai.jpg


Cute how you come with punks.
I'm in Skinhead/Punk Subculture and the clothing is regarded as a way to shock society. Punks never wanted to be accepted by society, they want to provoke and shit on Societys head if you know what I mean.


Don't put these sub-cultures into this discussions.

[Acquisitor]

Cute how you come with punks.
I'm in Skinhead/Punk Subculture and the clothing is regarded as a way to shock society. Punks never wanted to be accepted by society, they want to provoke and shit on Societys head if you know what I mean.


Don't put these sub-cultures into this discussions.

now lets open a hunt on you, lets make you drink urine and lets marginalize you in every possible way, lets forbid you to express yourself and lets forbid you to wear your clothes everywhere you go since kids may get a wrong impression.

[Zaycev]

This is not ocmparable with the homosexual case.
As I said above. A real punk has a way of living. It's a way of life based on Ideology, freedom-believe and more.

People who base their life around their sexuality are - in my opinion - fucking thick.

[Methusalem]

now lets open a hunt on you, lets make you drink urine and lets marginalize you in every possible way, lets forbid you to express yourself and lets forbid you to wear your clothes everywhere you go since kids may get a wrong impression.

Those 'gays' are convicted pedophiles.

[Acquisitor]

This is not ocmparable with the homosexual case.
As I said above. A real punk has a way of living. It's a way of life based on Ideology, freedom-believe and more.

People who base their life around their sexuality are - in my opinion - fucking thick.

so gays base their lives around their sexuality ? ....

[Zaycev]

so gays base their lives around their sexuality ? ....

Well erm yes, some gays do? The sissy ones, remember? :thumb001:

[Ataman]

Those 'gays' are convicted pedophiles.

Yes, further proof for this http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113094-Pedos-want-same-right-as-gays

[Acquisitor]

Well erm yes, some gays do? The sissy ones, remember? :thumb001:

so "sissy homosexuals" build their lives around sexuality, now I get it.

[Zaycev]

It defo seems like that.

[Methusalem]

It is about damn time to stop this sickness.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113097-Gay-politician-supports-pedophilia&p=2361054#post2361054

[Hierarchalist]

God I love seeing these bleeding heart liberals going to great lengths defending homosexuality as a new age lifestyle.


This controversy surrounding Homosexual rights is only the tip of the iceberg. The acceptance of homosexuality as a new age lifestyle and homosexuals becoming increasingly accepted as viable parenting units reflects upon the overall decline of the western civilization is another matter. Very sad indeed...The passing of a great race...

Why the fuck should I care? It's not my race that is in demographic decline. Enjoy your Egalitarian utopia

[Feral]

This is not ocmparable with the homosexual case.
As I said above. A real punk has a way of living. It's a way of life based on Ideology, freedom-believe and more.

People who base their life around their sexuality are - in my opinion - fucking thick.


You're so punk you don't shit about history of societies nor their cultures.

First, homosexuality has ocurred since basically ever and far and wide all over the world. This "homo-revolution" is a contemporary response to oppression to their sexuality.

Second... really? do you even know anything about sexuality? Besides that, do you notice your contradiction? If you are against homosexuality because you abogate for an absolute heterosexual society, then you're "basing your life arround sexuality" or, better said, socializing sexuality - which every fucking society has done all along history, since sexuality is a part of culture. Ancient Greece is a great example. And you talk about freedom, what a noob.

Third... again, really? First, punks didn't called themselves that way, they give a shit about it and just wanted to express their disconformity about their current society in a grotest, unique and simple but shocking way. Really, these sissy gays are more punks than modern poser-punks. Do you know why the Sex Pistols chosed their name? Because, from an anecdote told in the Filth and the Fury, they found it risible that people used to hide their face in latex mask to have sex, since they said that it was 'cause they were ashamed of their sexuality so that's was the only way for them to do it. Funny you are into BDSM, eh?. Even Lydon said that punks ruined it when it became a stupid trend.

Please, get your facts straight. (See what I did there? Hah!)

[The King, I am]

Homosexuality is natural every animal (including us) on this planet has gays. from dolphins to dogs

Islam allows pedophilia

[Zmey Gorynych]

The law does not ban homosexual relations but homosexual propaganda directed at children with the goal to form a certain preference for homosexual orientation. Works of art representing or describing homosexuality or homosexual relations do not fall under this law. News with the same content do not fall under this law as it does not qualify as propaganda but simple information. Two gays walking on the street holding hands is not propaganda. If the child asks to be informed about homosexuality and that information is given to him this action also doesn't qualify as propaganda. People have the right to conduct public debates regarding the social status of sexual minorities as long as they don't force homosexual ideas on underaged children. Gays still have the right to parade in those ridiculous outfits as long as there are no children around.

Propaganda is considered only the information presented with the intent to influence. Specifically information which underlines the "attractiveness" of homosexuality, distorted idea of equality between traditional and non-traditional couples.

As you can see nobody forbids gays to express themselves as long as they don't do it to influence children ... is that so much to ask !?

Read the law before going uh uh ahaha in here :)

[Hierarchalist]

This "homo-revolution" is a contemporary response to oppression to their sexuality.

What "sexuality", you stupid kid?
"Homo-sexuality" : Sexuality presumed and then miraculously abandoned because...life...sort of happens.
Like digestion.

Homosexuality has to contradict itself to reproduce itself...otherwise it relies on parasitical strategies or on technological methods. On its own it has zero chance...it is unfit in the evolutionary sense.

If sticking a penis up your rectum is not for you a disgusting thought, then I could not care less.


Ancient Greece is a great example.

Really? Homosexuality was frowned upon in ancient Greece. Those who engaged in it were called "molokos" or soft. If you wish to justify your new age lifestyle by finding ancient roots, then look no further than nature, where male to male mock penetration is used to symbolize domination.

[Feral]

What "sexuality", you stupid kid?
"Homo-sexuality" : Sexuality presumed and then miraculously abandoned because...life...sort of happens.
Like digestion.

Homosexuality has to contradict itself to reproduce itself...otherwise it relies on parasitical strategies or on technological methods. On its own it has zero chance...it is unfit in the evolutionary sense.

Pst, pst. Another ignorant small-minded noob.

"Homosexuality has to contradict itself to reproduce itself"? Are homosexuals... some kind of hermaphrodites? They were hiding it from us, I knew it!.

"otherwise it relies on parasitical strategies or on technological methods"? Please, elaborate. (I know what you meant, but I want to make more fun of you)

"On its own it has zero chance...it is unfit in the evolutionary sense." Uhm, from a evolutionary perspective the only thing plausible is that homosexuality is a consequence of pleasure, but there's nothing that proof that it's unnatural, in fact, there are proofs that it is natural in other animals too.
Sexuality goes from reproduction to the pleasure of sexual activity and even to the socialization of that sexuality. Other animals' sexuality are even more variated than your little mind may can take. Are snails aberrations of nature? Did you knew they are both female and male? And that the way they mate is kinda twisted and bizarre (http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/30-strangest-animal-mating-habits/#!ugbkK) from our human point of view? Those filthy animals should burn in hell for their sodomy!



If sticking a penis up your rectum is not for you a disgusting thought, then I could not care less.

In fact, I find it repulsive as long as the condition is to think about my rectum. :rolleyes: But humans had learned some things while evolving to avoid this kind of stupidity. There's something called empathy. And no, empathy itsn't the same that compassion or other kind of maloko sentimentality, it just means the capability of understanding the sorrounding reality of other beings beside oneself. Something a small-minded with pathetic phobias will find it hard to understand or achieve. Such a pussy (http://www.wordreference.com/definition/pusillanimous).



Really? Homosexuality was frowned upon in ancient Greece. Those who engaged in it were called "molokos" or soft. If you wish to justify your new age lifestyle by finding ancient roots, then look no further than nature, where male to male mock penetration is used to symbolize domination.

Yes, really. Greeks weren't the only ones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality), 'tho, indians weren't the exception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_topics_and_Hinduism#Difference_between_Wester n_and_Hindu_views_of_male_sexuality). Also, the malakia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_definition_of_effeminacy)wasn't related to homosexuality behaviour, today's parallelism would be what we call "sissy" and/or "effeminate" men but not necesarally homosexual ones. In fact, homosexuality wasn't just recreational, it was related to the certain roles in social stratum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece). And homosexual behavior was later oppressed with the come of christianisation; Are abrahamic religions of european origins? Uhm. :rolleyes:


And, nah, I just like controversial topics and exposing stupidity. Thank you for being an example. :rolleyes:

[Acquisitor]

And, nah, I just like controversial topics and exposing stupidity. Thank you for being an example. :rolleyes:

amen.

[Dandelion]

Homosexual propaganda from the West as an attempt to bring down Orthodox values and the Russian family cohesion.

[7eleven]

MrSwan/gigolo is a LGBT (legendary goat boob toucher)

[Dandelion]

they just needed a reason sing best anthem in the world do not blame them for it!:)

They could have sung it with Swedish lyrics. I think that would have been a better idea. Would make the video stronger, more real, albeit more controversial to Russian ears. I guess they had that idea initially, but abandoned it because the video is meant as a moral support for Russian LGBT people, not to offend them.

If the lyrics aren't ridiculous, it shouldn't be taken as an offense anyway.

Has been done with the Soviet anthem by an American communist (Paul Robeson in 1945) before.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw

[Hierarchalist]

Pst, pst. Another ignorant small-minded noob.

Excellent argument..why don't you comment on my penis size, like a gossipy bitch? A pseudo-intellectual douche-bag defending his world-view from the encroachment of reality, the last resort, indeed, is this personal assault.



"Homosexuality has to contradict itself to reproduce itself"? Are homosexuals... some kind of hermaphrodites? They were hiding it from us, I knew it

Turd, you are thick and slow. Lust evolved through natural selection as the impetus to procreate. Thus those who find themselves sexually attracted to the opposite sex are to be considered fit in this regard. Consequently, homosexuals as well as other forms of sexual dysfunction such as pedophilia and zoophilia are genetic dead ends in that they represent a physical and/or emotional urge without any purpose or evolutionary advantage, beyond the immediate of social bonding rituals.


"otherwise it relies on parasitical strategies or on technological methods"? Please, elaborate. (I know what you meant, but I want to make more fun of you)

Oh, you're so cute...I'm getting tingly..


"On its own it has zero chance...it is unfit in the evolutionary sense." Uhm, from a evolutionary perspective the only thing plausible is that homosexuality is a consequence of pleasure, but there's nothing that proof that it's unnatural, in fact, there are proofs that it is natural in other animals too.
Sexuality goes from reproduction to the pleasure of sexual activity and even to the socialization of that sexuality. Other animals' sexuality are even more variated than your little mind may can take. Are snails aberrations of nature? Did you knew they are both female and male? And that the way they mate is kinda twisted and bizarre (http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/30-strangest-animal-mating-habits/#!ugbkK) from our human point of view? Those filthy animals should burn in hell for their sodomy!

The emasculated turd always need to protect himself from his own condition., getting up his corn-hole is a respectable, loving lifestyle with no implications about his character or his nature. Who ever said homosexuality was unnatural,you stupid fuck? Are you incapable of reading, or did you not notice how I describe how and why homosexual displays appear in social species other than man? If I were to say that bestiality and paedophilia are also unfit, from an evolutionary standpoint, and how both behaviours can be witnessed in other social species, would a retard, like you, accuse me of being a closet pedophile or one who secretly indulges in animal sex?

Are you a moron or just a degenerate modern?



In fact, I find it repulsive as long as the condition is to think about my rectum. :rolleyes: But humans had learned some things while evolving to avoid this kind of stupidity. There's something called empathy. And no, empathy itsn't the same that compassion or other kind of maloko sentimentality, it just means the capability of understanding the sorrounding reality of other beings beside oneself. Something a small-minded with pathetic phobias will find it hard to understand or achieve. Such a pussy (http://www.wordreference.com/definition/pusillanimous).

Ahhhh. Phobia...This reminds me of women when confronted with the fundamental differences between the genders, immediately redirects into the personal, the emotional commentary - misogynist, sexist, wife-beater etc. turd, I don't have an irrational fear of homos. My hatred towards them is completely rational. Btw imbecile, empathy doesn't automatically lead to sympathy. Empathy does not necessarily result in compassion, it can lead to contempt.

Empathy, you little brain, is the ability, using the imagination and determined by self-awareness, to put one's self in another's position.This does not necessarily mean compassion. A man can put himself in another's position and hate them all the more.



Yes, really. Greeks weren't the only ones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality), 'tho, indians weren't the exception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_topics_and_Hinduism#Difference_between_Wester n_and_Hindu_views_of_male_sexuality). Also, the malakia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_definition_of_effeminacy)wasn't related to homosexuality behaviour, today's parallelism would be what we call "sissy" and/or "effeminate" men but not necesarally homosexual ones. In fact, homosexuality wasn't just recreational, it was related to the certain roles in social stratum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece). And homosexual behavior was later oppressed with the come of christianisation; Are abrahamic religions of european origins? Uhm. :rolleyes:

Turd, Has it happened before anytime in history where gay rights were Consciously politically promoted? That you think homosexuality was sanctioned a lifestyle choice by the ancients before Judeo-Christian influence, exposes how retarded you are.


And, nah, I just like controversial topics and exposing stupidity. Thank you for being an example. :rolleyes:

Yup, keep posting wikepedia references, and your quality is becoming quite clear.. Go debate gods existence with some retard on your level. Next time you open your dumb mouth, you imbecile, make sure a cock is not going to be shoved into it..

[Feral]

Excellent argument..why don't you comment on my penis size, like a gossipy bitch? A pseudo-intellectual douche-bag defending his world-view from the encroachment of reality, the last resort, indeed, is this personal assault.

Why? Do you want me to comment something about it? You kinky, you want me to think about your penis size. By the way, how my first sentence can be my last resort? :rolleyes2:



Turd, you are thick and slow. Lust evolved through natural selection as the impetus to procreate. Thus those who find themselves sexually attracted to the opposite sex are to be considered fit in this regard. Consequently, homosexuals as well as other forms of sexual dysfunction such as pedophilia and zoophilia are genetic dead ends in that they represent a physical and/or emotional urge without any purpose or evolutionary advantage, beyond the immediate of social bonding rituals.

Oh, you're so cute...I'm getting tingly..

Boring and basic argument. Does heterosexual oral or anal sex has any evolutionary "purpose"? If we go down that way, does your computer has any evolutionary purpose? Does the movies you watch or the music you listen to? Does the shitty things you know don't need but want to get anyways?.
There is not such thing as purpose in nature, just causes and consequences. Almost everything we do is for our own pleasures. Reproduction is just a requirement to pass on genes and to avoid extintion. Homosexuality can't be compared to pedophiles nor zoophilics since isn't opressive nor abusive by nature such has those two, that's why it can be socially accepted.




The emasculated turd always need to protect himself from his own condition., getting up his corn-hole is a respectable, loving lifestyle with no implications about his character or his nature. Who ever said homosexuality was unnatural,you stupid fuck? Are you incapable of reading, or did you not notice how I describe how and why homosexual displays appear in social species other than man? If I were to say that bestiality and paedophilia are also unfit, from an evolutionary standpoint, and how both behaviours can be witnessed in other social species, would a retard, like you, accuse me of being a closet pedophile or one who secretly indulges in animal sex?

Are you a moron or just a degenerate modern?


I haven't read you mentioning homosexuality in other species. Link it.
By the way, where do I accuse of such things in the paragraph you quoted? Are you trying to came out? :rolleyes:



Ahhhh. Phobia...This reminds me of women when confronted with the fundamental differences between the genders, immediately redirects into the personal, the emotional commentary - misogynist, sexist, wife-beater etc. turd, I don't have an irrational fear of homos. My hatred towards them is completely rational. Btw imbecile, empathy doesn't automatically lead to sympathy. Empathy does not necessarily result in compassion, it can lead to contempt.

Empathy, you little brain, is the ability, using the imagination and determined by self-awareness, to put one's self in another's position.This does not necessarily mean compassion. A man can put himself in another's position and hate them all the more.



That's exactly what I'd said. Your anger is making you blind. :rolleyes: In other words, I've said that empathizing doesn't means to imagine yourself being penetrated in the arse, but understanding that isn't you whom is it. And the only evolutionary "purpose" for it, if we use your reasoning, will be to conclude that there's no reproductive threat, on the contrary! You will have less competition.



Turd, Has it happened before anytime in history where gay rights were Consciously politically promoted? That you think homosexuality was sanctioned a lifestyle choice by the ancients before Judeo-Christian influence, exposes how retarded you are.


Yeah, lest do anachronistic reasoning. Ancient cultures understood homosexuality the way we do, too!. No. I've never said such thing. I've said that, even if in ancient times didn't understooded homosexuallity in a contemporary manner, most of them, if not all, at some point, had culturally and socially experienced homosexuality in diverse degrees of acceptance and importance. Explaining to you something that is of implicit understanding, exposes how retarded you are. :rolleyes:



Yup, keep posting wikepedia references, and your quality is becoming quite clear.. Go debate gods existence with some retard on your level. Next time you open your dumb mouth, you imbecile, make sure a cock is not going to be shoved into it..

Yeah, wikipedia is so wrong.. they're all a bunch of illiterate lefties. Hey, show me your vast knowledge and superior intelectuallity to refute every article I've mentioned, I'd give you a cookie if you do.

Look, I've a cock shoved into my mouth!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/248095_448789478545713_965789567_n.jpg)

[Hierarchalist]

I'll cut through the crap and focus on the funny parts......


Why? Do you want me to comment something about it? You kinky, you want me to think about your penis size

You are as innocent as a little girl. My penis almost stirred. And yes, I have a BIG penis. Fully erect, it's 2 inches..now bend over and spread those ass cheeks biaatch....


Does heterosexual oral or anal sex has any evolutionary "purpose"?

Perhaps the anus did not evolve to dispose of toxins and it was meant to help with pleasure. Can you be more obtuse?

If I say something out of sorts I might be accused of being a latent something or other....fear must be behind my views because...what else could it be?


There is not such thing as purpose in nature, just causes and consequences. Almost everything we do is for our own pleasures.

Sexual instincts does have an object...and that why a well-rounded rump and breasts become its object/objective.
In simple animals, simpler minds, the object/objective need not be projected far, for it lacks the abstractive ability and the imagination.
Its projected object/objectives are more immediate, in the time/space sense.

This is why immediate gratification and shallow perceptions are the hallmark of a stunted and/or inferior mind, or a less sophisticated one, like yours, you pseudo-intellectual halfwit.



Homosexuality can't be compared to pedophiles nor zoophilics since isn't opressive nor abusive by nature such has those two, that's why it can be socially accepted.

Then necrophilia is acceptable? "Oppressive", "abusive"...these are terms for simpletons like you. Is a homosexual any less of a genetic mutation that depends on parasitism to endure?
If these liberal, selfless ones wish to make it acceptable then why not pedophilia or necrophilia or bestiality or any sexual mutation?

Their criterion?
How it affects them personally.

Am I or my loved one threatened?
If so it is bad....if not...what the hell.

Reasoning based on self-interest...and so they seek emotional self-serving motives behind all opinions...as they should because they are a majority and their perspectives smell of their nature. Both homosexuals and pedophiles rely on sheltering and modern secular humanism to hope for legitimacy.


I've said that empathizing doesn't means to imagine yourself being penetrated in the arse, but understanding that isn't you whom is it.

You are thick as fuck...I meant empathy doesn't necessarily lead to tolerance & sympathy. I can empathize with a homo or a pedophile, but I will not tolerate either of them.


I've said that, even if in ancient times didn't understooded homosexuallity in a contemporary manner, most of them, if not all, at some point, had culturally and socially experienced homosexuality in diverse degrees of acceptance and importance.

Turd, did homosexuality become a lifestyle in any culture in its zenith or did homosexuality came to prevalence when they were in decline? The current rise of homosexuality as just another lifestyle, is a symptom of decline. Even the Romans became decadent and feminine when they embraced Christianity, during the late stages of their end, and the Greeks, as well, as they turned to buggery and ephevophilia.


Yeah, wikipedia is so wrong.. they're all a bunch of illiterate lefties. Hey, show me your vast knowledge and superior intelectuallity to refute every article I've mentioned, I'd give you a cookie if you do.

You are a stupid fuck, through and through. The more you talk the more this is becoming painfully obvious. A pathetic little imbecile, born from inferior genes and destined to live and die in oblivion, desperately seeking a way out of its predicament and fate. You are an ideal specimen, an example of what happens in western decadent societies of plenty and disillusioned naive dolts, high on materialism and escapism.

You are one boring slut, now fuck off and debate with some turd on your level.

[Feral]

Pst, pst. I was hoping for a more intelectual challange. Tsk. I'll just have to elaborate even more what I'd have already said or it will be frustrating.




I'll cut through the crap and focus on the funny parts......
You are as innocent as a little girl. My penis almost stirred. And yes, I have a BIG penis. Fully erect, it's 2 inches..now bend over and spread those ass cheeks biaatch...

Did you intentionally minimized the size of your penis to feel it larger? Pitty. And, no, I'll not participate in your repressed desires, sorry. It's good you'd finally acknowledged it, 'tho.



Perhaps the anus did not evolve to dispose of toxins and it was meant to help with pleasure. Can you be more obtuse?

If I say something out of sorts I might be accused of being a latent something or other....fear must be behind my views because...what else could it be?


You are thick as fuck...I meant empathy doesn't necessarily lead to tolerance & sympathy. I can empathize with a homo or a pedophile, but I will not tolerate either of them.



Turd, did homosexuality become a lifestyle in any culture in its zenith or did homosexuality came to prevalence when they were in decline? The current rise of homosexuality as just another lifestyle, is a symptom of decline. Even the Romans became decadent and feminine when they embraced Christianity, during the late stages of their end, and the Greeks, as well, as they turned to buggery and ephevophilia.



Then necrophilia is acceptable? "Oppressive", "abusive"...these are terms for simpletons like you. Is a homosexual any less of a genetic mutation that depends on parasitism to endure?
If these liberal, selfless ones wish to make it acceptable then why not pedophilia or necrophilia or bestiality or any sexual mutation?
Their criterion?How it affects them personally.Am I or my loved one threatened?If so it is bad....if not...what the hell.
Reasoning based on self-interest...and so they seek emotional self-serving motives behind all opinions...as they should because they are a majority and their perspectives smell of their nature. Both homosexuals and pedophiles rely on sheltering and modern secular humanism to hope for legitimacy.

I'm obviously putting in evidence your tendentious posture regarding human sexuallity.
I know what you meant. Again, your anger is making you stupid. I'll explain it a little more directly since you'd seem to have problems to understand or relate any kind of implicit proposotion.
First, phobias aren't just about fear but about negative emotional responses, such as sadness, repulsion, anger and even hate. Second, yes, empathy doesn't mean tolerance nor sympathy but also neither the opposite. So, basically you are overrationalizating whatever really motivates your hating towards homosexuality by rejecting the idea that it's a phobic reaction and that believing it's actually a reasonable hate.
On other words, you say you hate homosexuality because it's unfit for reproductive purposes and/or because it's socialy decadent according to your own morals and that you don't have any kind of emotional response towards homosexually except for hatred. And then it becomes a cyclical denial in which you're fenced. It's just a defence mechanism.
I'll explain it for you. If you resented homosexuality because you see it as a sign of a social decancy, then you may have an debatable opinion. But you also affirm that you despice it because you find it contra natura even if you still want to insist you haven't, but you do have done it while saying that somethings weren't "meant" to be use certain ways or when you try to argument this contra natura by stating homosexuality is a genetic sexually parasitic mutation that is evolutionarily unfit for reproduction while omitting that reproduction it's just only a part of sexuality, which is obviusly something complex in social animals and even more in humans. But let's deny it because is not unreasonable at all.

No society has lasted forever. Saying homosexuality was a sign or sympton of a declining society, it's to stupidly and tendentiously omit every other circunstances like ignoring historical facts such as christianity condemning homosexuality in Ancient Rome while at the same time making profit of it, or as ignoring historical figures that even were in their 'gold ages' while being involved in homosexual activities on their own context. And, again, linking homosexuals to effeminates denotes even more your negations.



Sexual instincts does have an object...and that why a well-rounded rump and breasts become its object/objective.
In simple animals, simpler minds, the object/objective need not be projected far, for it lacks the abstractive ability and the imagination.
Its projected object/objectives are more immediate, in the time/space sense.
This is why immediate gratification and shallow perceptions are the hallmark of a stunted and/or inferior mind, or a less sophisticated one, like yours, you pseudo-intellectual halfwit.
You are a stupid fuck, through and through. The more you talk the more this is becoming painfully obvious. A pathetic little imbecile, born from inferior genes and destined to live and die in oblivion, desperately seeking a way out of its predicament and fate. You are an ideal specimen, an example of what happens in western decadent societies of plenty and disillusioned naive dolts, high on materialism and escapism.
You are one boring slut, now fuck off and debate with some turd on your level.

Funny, because I understand romantic courtship as a complex system of mate selection. When we found eachother, we needed to preparate ourselves, by force majeure, during failing 5 years until we became adequate for eachother. 5 years, hey, really immediate gratification and very unsophisticated. :rolleyes: And I live under this kind of philosofy which I've learned from a place I cannot talk about: "Disaster is a natural part of my evolution, along with tragedy and dissolution. Because only through destroying myself can I discover the greater power of my spirit". Very naive and materialistic escapism.

Anyways, wasn't you the one that said that the last resort of a pseudo-intellectual douche-bag defending his world-view from the encroachment of reality, is to make personal assaults? :rolleyes: Pst. Don't be such a whiny baby if you aren't intelectually fit to debate with me that you need to slander and insult to feel your arguments are stronk when actually you know they're weak and blindly subjetive.