Classify Old Kingdom Egyptian Scribe

[Smeagol]

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/oldkingdomscribe.jpg

[Anglojew]

Corey Feldman's great-grandfather x 150 (since he's Jewish this could actually be true);

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Corey%2BFeldman%2BSusie%2BFeldman%2Bmarried%2BeR8w l1ebA6vl.jpg

[Smeagol]

I think Mediterranid-Suedcromagnid. Resembles modern Egyptians.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Some similarities yes you can tell they are the same ethnic group.
A modern Egyptian.
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4588698/close_up_of_egyptian_man_smiling_BLD037333.jpg
Also this Egyptian man.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-Sl4UpX1vpcs/TT9KKr6s9mI/AAAAAAAATOQ/uRlflO-EDcY/IMG_0688.JPG

[Smeagol]

Some similarities yes you can tell they are the same ethnic group.
A modern Egyptian.
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4588698/close_up_of_egyptian_man_smiling_BLD037333.jpg
Also this Egyptian man.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-Sl4UpX1vpcs/TT9KKr6s9mI/AAAAAAAATOQ/uRlflO-EDcY/IMG_0688.JPG

Yeah, Ancient and modern Egyptians are basically the same, except, some modern Egyptians have Sudano-Kafrid slave influence.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Aryan.

[Sikeliot]

South Med.

[Sikeliot]

Some similarities yes you can tell they are the same ethnic group.
A modern Egyptian.
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4588698/close_up_of_egyptian_man_smiling_BLD037333.jpg

He has Arabid influence, so no.

[Smeagol]

He has Arabid influence, so no.

I believe Arabid influence was always present in Egypt, because the people who spread Afroasiatic languages in North Africa were ultimately from Arabia.

[Sikeliot]

Funny thing is the guy I just quoted looks almost like some Mexicans, Chileans etc. Castizo ish.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

He has Arabid influence, so no.

The bottom guy was a better example but the guy at top still looks very Egyptian.

[Smeagol]

Funny thing is the guy I just quoted looks almost like some Mexicans, Chileans etc. Castizo ish.

He kind of resembles some Mexicans, yes.

[Sikeliot]

He kind of resembles some Mexicans, yes.

I suspect it is because the Med types in North Africa can look somewhat similar to one of the Med types in Iberia.

[Smeagol]

I suspect it is because the Med types in North Africa can look somewhat similar to one of the Med types in Iberia.

Yes, that's true, North African South Mediterranids can close to some Iberian Gracile Mediterranid variants.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, that's true, North African South Mediterranids can close to some Iberian Gracile Mediterranid variants.

I think so yes. I think if you were to go back to ancient Egyptian times, some of the Mediterranid types would have looked Iberian.

[Smeagol]

I think so yes. I think if you were to go back to ancient Egyptian times, some of the Mediterranid types would have looked Iberian.

Yes, pure Med types were more common in ancient Egypt, than modern Egypt, because now there is some Sub-Saharan influence spread across the country from Arab slavery. Most Lower Egyptians in ancient times would have been pure Caucasoids, although in ancient Upper Egypt there were a lot of quadroon, and octoroon types.

[Sikeliot]

I saw a video from Cairo in my Arabic class, and it was interesting.. a lot of people looked like quadroonish Dominicans, some of the children looked well within the range of "black" in the US, and others looked like Arabid-Med-African mixes. Not a lot of pure Caucasoids.

[Smeagol]

I saw a video from Cairo in my Arabic class, and it was interesting.. a lot of people looked like quadroonish Dominicans, some of the children looked well within the range of "black" in the US, and others looked like Arabid-Med-African mixes. Not a lot of pure Caucasoids.

Yes, but that probably would have been different thousands of years ago. Anyway, I think the rural Egyptians tend to be purer actually. The Copts also seem to be more Caucasoid than the Muslims, and they sometimes look a lot like the people depicted in the Fayum portraits.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Yes, but that probably would have been different thousands of years ago. Anyway, I think the rural Egyptians tend to be purer actually. The Copts also seem to be more Caucasoid than the Muslims, and they sometimes look a lot like the people depicted in the Fayum portraits.
THe only thing to remember is that many of the Fayum people were mixed with greeks and Romans. I met once an Egyptian man who looked rather greek.

[Sikeliot]

THe only thing to remember is that many of the Fayum people were mixed with greeks and Romans. I met once an Egyptian man who looked rather greek.

There's a Coptic woman posting on ABF and Anthroscape who looks Sicilian too.

[Smeagol]

THe only thing to remember is that many of the Fayum people were mixed with greeks and Romans. I met once an Egyptian man who looked rather greek.

With Romans? Not at all? With Greeks? A minority were, but most were just Hellenized Egyptians.

''The dental morphology of the Roman-period Faiyum mummies was also compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations''-Irish JD (2006). "Who were the ancient Egyptians? Dental affinities among Neolithic through postdynastic peoples.". Am J Phys Anthropol 129 (4): 529-43

[SardiniaAtlantis]

There's a Coptic woman posting on ABF and Anthroscape who looks Sicilian too.

I know a couple of Copts the worked in my Girlfriends gelateria all of them were fairly swarthy but pretty much caucasoid. Similar features to the statue.

[Sharkeatpeople]

Berberid.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

With Romans? Not at all? With Greeks? A minority were, but most were just Hellenized Egyptians.

''The dental morphology of the Roman-period Faiyum mummies was also compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations''-Irish JD (2006). "Who were the ancient Egyptians? Dental affinities among Neolithic through postdynastic peoples.". Am J Phys Anthropol 129 (4): 529-43

Interesting, this made me take a look at the Fayum portraits yet again, and this girl looks so much like the two Coptic girls I know they could be relatives.
http://fizzii.tripod.com/fayum/fayumportraits/fresco-lady3rough.jpg

[blogen]

Yeah, Ancient and modern Egyptians are basically the same, except, some modern Egyptians have Sudano-Kafrid slave influence.

The ancient also.

[Smeagol]

The ancient also.

The Negrid slaves in Egypt would have been Nilotids. Also, there was a strong Aethiopid influence in Upper Egypt, and Lower Nubia.

[Sikeliot]

Also, there was a strong Aethiopid influence in Upper Egypt, and Lower Nubia.

Still is.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_Sp1CJv5WM/TXvbyKif--I/AAAAAAAAARs/W2XAxDkIdI8/s1600/fellahin.jpg


http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/upper-egyptians.png%3Fw%3D500

[Smeagol]

Bump.

[Smeagol]

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