The Dalmatian dog is from Croatia

[Sisak]

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The Dalmatian (Croatian: Dalmatinac) is a breed of dog. It is named after the Adriatic coast of Dalmatia, in Croatia, its first home. The origins of the breed are unknown. The Dalmatian has been used for a war dog, fire department mascot, and shepherd. It is best known, however, as a coach or carriage dog, being a guard for horse-pulled vehicles. Also, the Dalmatian was used for being a circus performer, vermin hunter, fire-apparatus follower, bird dog, hound dog, and as a guard dog.


In Ðakovo in the 16th century there was a large farm with about 400 dalmatian dogs that were bred for military purposes. The archives of the city Ðakovo contain a description of this breed in the archives in Ðakovo, image of dalmatian dog is located on several coats of arms. About their origin in our region speaks picture the Posljednja večera in the Franciscan monastery in Zaostrog near Makarska from the 1750th year.

[-Nicola-]

yes i think thats really true... I heard that often that this dog has his origin in Dalmatia.

Its really funny how this dog looks and I know also some dog races in Southeastern Europe.

[Sisak]

I have a desire to have one

[-Nicola-]

yes why not ... they are wonderful :D

[Insuperable]

@Jelisava

I have a feeling you opened this thread just to tell us how it should be called Slavonian instead of Dalmatian dog.
There are detailed description of this dog from the 14th century, Dalmatia, but it is bred in Dalmatia centuries before. It is thought that the origin of this dog is Greece since you can find spotted dogs on 4000 years old tablets and friezes (but are of somewhat different physique), but they retained in Dalmatia region for many centuries.

I saw you writing on several occasions some bad things about southern Croats. What is your deal?

[CordedWhelp]

I'm sure these canines are in the middle of a pure ethnic-identity crisis.

My poodle sure has those issues. Sure, everyone is aware how "French" they are, but the breed was mostly complete in Germany. The poor boy isn't certain if he should be drinking Cabernet or lager out of a stein.

[Peyrol]

Dalmatia in 1400 was far from being ''slavic''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Republic

[Insuperable]

Dalmatia in 1400 was far from being ''slavic''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Republic

Peyrol, I don't understand what is your deal too lately. Can you explain why you write about unrelated stuff?

[Peyrol]

LET'S BEGIN THIS OT


Peyrol, I don't understand what is your deal too lately. Can you explain why you write about unrelated stuff?


Ok, let's start...the title of the topic is meaningfull ''dalmatian dog is croatian''. Let's quote the punti salienti of the demostration:


@Jelisava

I have a feeling you opened this thread just to tell us how it should be called Slavonian instead of Dalmatian dog.
There are detailed description of this dog from the 14th century, Dalmatia, but it is bred in Dalmatia centuries before. It is thought that the origin of this dog is Greece since you can find spotted dogs on 4000 years old tablets and friezes (but are of somewhat different physique), but they retained in Dalmatia region for many centuries.

I saw you writing on several occasions some bad things about southern Croats. What is your deal?


http://i58.tinypic.com/2im49k2.jpg
The Dalmatian (Croatian: Dalmatinac) is a breed of dog. It is named after the Adriatic coast of Dalmatia, in Croatia, its first home. The origins of the breed are unknown. The Dalmatian has been used for a war dog, fire department mascot, and shepherd. It is best known, however, as a coach or carriage dog, being a guard for horse-pulled vehicles. Also, the Dalmatian was used for being a circus performer, vermin hunter, fire-apparatus follower, bird dog, hound dog, and as a guard dog.


In Ðakovo in the 16th century there was a large farm with about 400 dalmatian dogs that were bred for military purposes. The archives of the city Ðakovo contain a description of this breed in the archives in Ðakovo, image of dalmatian dog is located on several coats of arms. About their origin in our region speaks picture the Posljednja večera in the Franciscan monastery in Zaostrog near Makarska from the 1750th year.


Understood, now?

Judjing by croats on this board's posts, seems that you've inhabited the Balkans from mesozhoic, lol.

END OF OT.

[Insuperable]

LET'S BEGIN THIS OT




Ok, let's start...the title of the topic is meaningfull ''dalmatian dog is croatian''. Let's quote the punti salienti of the demostration:






Understood, now?

Judjing by croats on this board's posts, seems that you've inhabited the Balkans from mesozhoic, lol.

END OF OT.


Dog breeds are usually named by region where they are retained and bred the most, but if you like it is neither Venetian, Dalmatian (in any sense you like) nor Croatian, but Greek in origin. Since people in Dalmatia were/are pred. Croatian people since at least 9th century and since Dalmatia is modern Croatian area I see no problem writing what she did especially since all modern Dalmatians are partially Ilyrians (who technically didn't exist at the time being Latinized and speaking Dalmatian language) due assimilation creating modern Croatian, Dalmatian people.

[Peyrol]

Dog breeds are usually named by region where they are retained and bred the most, but if you like it is neither Venetian, Dalmatian (in any sense you like) nor Croatian, but Greek in origin. Since people in Dalmatia were/are pred. Croatian people since at least 9th century and since Dalmatia is modern Croatian area I see no problem writing what she did especially since all modern Dalmatians are partially Ilyrians (who technically didn't exist at the time being Latinized and speaking Dalmatian language) due assimilation creating modern Croatian, Dalmatian people.

That's a more reasonable and corretc explanation than the ''sensationalistic claims''. :thumb001:

It's just saying that the explorer Marco Polo was ''croatian'' just because her mother was native from Krk/Veglia.

[Sisak]

Dalmatia in 1400 was far from being ''slavic''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Republic

Perhaps you do not remember Venetian tyranny over the Croatian island people. you do not have a good memory;
The Hvar Rebellion (Croatian: Hvarska buna) (1510–1514)[1] was a popular uprising of the people and citizens of the Dalmatian island of Hvar on the Adriatic Sea against the island's nobility and their Venetian masters. It began on the island's largest city, also called Hvar, but spread to the entire island.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hvar_Rebellion

[justme]

Dalmatia in 1400 was far from being ''slavic''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Republic
It doesn't matter, because the Dalmatian language wasn't even Latin to begin with Dalmatians originally spoke Illyrian langauge which is completely different from Latin. Romans just came there are started latinizing people then the Slavs came settled there and then started Slavicizing people.

[Sisak]

Dalmatia in 1400 was far from being ''slavic''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatian_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Republic
It was. Queen Elizabeth wrote about Croatian Poljica Statutes in 1333 year. We have a lot of laws from this time. Poljica statute is a result of satisfying the need to achieve a greater independence from Venice. The oldest manuscript of the Statute was written in Bosancica. Bosančica is the Croatian native script. The statute is written in Croatian language on stokavian and chakavian dialect. This is confirmed by documents of Queen Elizabeth in which was mentioned Poljica statute. Ukrainian expert Eugene Pascenko claims Poljica statute and code Kievan justice, the most important medieval documents of Croats and Ukrainians, are amazingly similar. Ukraine justice (11th and 12 century) is the first Ukrainian constitution.

[Sisak]

Ruska pravda or Ukrajinska pravda is the same, and the same law as croatian Poljica statues:
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?AddButton=pages\R\U\RuskaiaPravdaIT.ht m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poljica_Statute

[Sisak]

LET'S BEGIN THIS OT




Ok, let's start...the title of the topic is meaningfull ''dalmatian dog is croatian''. Let's quote the punti salienti of the demostration:






Understood, now?

Judjing by croats on this board's posts, seems that you've inhabited the Balkans from mesozhoic, lol.

END OF OT.
we are judging you by genetics. Slavs were invited to come to this territory to defend the Illyrians of conquerors, no massacre occurred.
Croats destroyed the Roman Empire and culture. since that time, nothing was the same like in previous times , stops the continuity of the previous time regarding the roman culture and customs. It had effect not only in the Western Balkans, but the whole territory of the former Roman Empire.