Sexless trend in Japan spurs demographic tragedy

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oI0n_cMeeo

very sad, this is happening with all white and east asian people. Global IQ and human progress will go down.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Plastics soy and no protein.

[alb0zfinest]

Russiaprussia maybe you should help with this :D

[Hierarchalist]

Have you heard of Herbivore men or grass eaters?

[Methusalem]

More chink chonk shushi pussies for me.

[Liac]

very sad, this is happening with all white and east asian people. Global IQ and human progress will go down.

Many geniuses in human history were asexual so I can assume higher IQ means lower libido.

[Furnace]

Russiaprussia maybe you should help with this :D

No need, all those East Asian chicks come to Russia for Russian men. (Especially the likes of RussiaPrussia, they can't get their minds off them.)

[Gauthier]

Japs are slowly evolving into this:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4412/6gba.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/6gba.jpg/)

[arcticwolf]

It's always the dumbest that multiply the most. Kiss your asses good bye you are going extinct! :laugh:

[KidMulat]

Beef and meat eating is at a all time high soo....
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Japan was always a very sexual nation, if you look at the classical high art and common art of the people it is very clear fertility was always at the forefront of the Japanese mind.

I mean just look up Shunga art to see what I mean (but its NSFW!)

Its very multilayered: post-War Japan was a strange period, I would also say that Tokyo and other major cities are being extravagated by the media here although it is epidemic among low achievers, Otaku, and the socially isolated.

I really feel it was the destruction and censoring of sexuality that left a real affect on the citizenry.

Look up what the Americans forced on the Japanese: Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan.

[Taiga Lake]

Japanese men should lay off the cartoon porn and start fucking.

[Methusalem]

It's always the dumbest that multiply the most. Kiss your asses good bye you are going extinct! :laugh:

So animal species which are extinct due to a low birthrate are smarter then humans?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

More chink chonk shushi pussies for me.

They need to import some high quality negro studs with big cock and good IQ, to help reverse their descent into pussydom.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It's always the dumbest that multiply the most. Kiss your asses good bye you are going extinct! :laugh:

Somewhat true but it seems to be a sickness with society more than anything. Perhaps this is just what happens when birth control is legal. Depressing if so, but among every demographic, some people are breeding so it can reverse without outside influence.

[Kiyant]

I still dont understand why they do this to themselves is having only two children that impossible for them?

[StonyArabia]

They will import Kazakhs anyways to help. Many Kazakhs live in Japan and the first mosque was built by Kazakhs:)

[Kiyant]

They will import Kazakhs anyways to help. Many Kazakhs live in Japan and the first mosque was built by Kazakhs:)

The first mosque was build by Tatars i believe not Kazakhs

[arcticwolf]

Somewhat true but it seems to be a sickness with society more than anything. Perhaps this is just what happens when birth control is legal. Depressing if so, but among every demographic, some people are breeding so it can reverse without outside influence.

Well, the higher the standard of living and intelligence the lower the attraction of having kids is. Kids mean a lot of time out of your schedule for a long time. People want to live their lives and not be tied down by responsibilities. Not saying this is right, just saying that's the way it goes. Romans later on had only a child or two while their slaves and barbarians within teir borders multiplied like rabbits, you know how that ended for Romans. It's nothing new, history repeats itself.

[StonyArabia]

The first mosque was build by Tatars i believe not Kazakhs

I read it was Kazakhs, but I know they are Kazakhs in Japan, plus they don't look much different than the Japanese. True you are right it was built by Tatars pretty cool though still:cool:

[Kiyant]

I read it was Kazakhs, but I know they are Kazakhs in Japan, plus they don't look much different than the Japanese. True you are right it was built by Tatars pretty cool though still:cool:

Well i also would have escaped to Japan if i were them (because china and north korea were much more crazy then the soviets)

[Furnace]

It's not really bad for Japan as a whole, their population is just too big for that tiny amount of land, but a dramatic reduction in young people will cause a major crisis with the growing number of pensioners. (Think retirement resources and general health care.)

[blklady2013]

A lot of this has to do with gender issues and changing desires for current generations of Japanese men and women. One of the teachers explained to me that societal pressures interfered with romance and male and female expectations of one another made them incompatible in many areas. I see similar trends worldwide...

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well, the higher the standard of living and intelligence the lower the attraction of having kids is. Kids mean a lot of time out of your schedule for a long time. People want to live their lives and not be tied down by responsibilities. Not saying this is right, just saying that's the way it goes. Romans later on had only a child or two while their slaves and barbarians within teir borders multiplied like rabbits, you know how that ended for Romans. It's nothing new, history repeats itself.

Sad but true.

I was sitting next to some girl as she chatted to her friend about why she wants to be single. She is a little fat, and not even really cute at all. She goes on about her career (which is something stupid like marketing) and how she'd only settle with a guy who is more educated than her and makes more money, and he has to be great in bed and have a good size penis and this other giant laundry list of crap.

I couldn't even believe my ears, there was no chance in hell she'd get 1/10th of this. I think men and women both get spoiled easily, and have some delusional expectations. Then they'd rather end up with nothing, than settle.

[Methusalem]

Well, the higher the standard of living and intelligence the lower the attraction of having kids is. Kids mean a lot of time out of your schedule for a long time. People want to live their lives and not be tied down by responsibilities. Not saying this is right, just saying that's the way it goes. Romans later on had only a child or two while their slaves and barbarians within teir borders multiplied like rabbits, you know how that ended for Romans. It's nothing new, history repeats itself.

That's why Ashkenazim Jews have the highest 'IQ's' but at the same time the highest birthrate in their respective societies. See Israel for example.

'Intelligence' was a selection factor in human evolution. So how could hominids reach such a peak in terms of brain size and intelligence when according to you only the dumbest procreate like rabbits?

It is not the 'dumbest' who procreate like rabbits in general. It is just that in current industrialized achievement-oriented society, the ability to be financially successful and at the same time to have a lot of children is rather low. And trying to equalize the higher social class with high intelligence and people of lower classes with low intelligence is rather simple-minded.

[Kiyant]

Sad but true.

I was sitting next to some girl as she chatted to her friend about why she wants to be single. She is a little fat, and not even really cute at all. She goes on about her career (which is something stupid like marketing) and how she'd only settle with a guy who is more educated than her and makes more money, and he has to be great in bed and have a good size penis and this other giant laundry list of crap.

I couldn't even believe my ears, there was no chance in hell she'd get 1/10th of this. I think men and women both get spoiled easily, and have some delusional expectations. Then they'd rather end up with nothing, than settle.

The problem isnt that many people dont get girlfriends/boyfriends the significant factor is that women want a career and one or more children will hinder them in their career which is a shame.

[Furnace]

A lot of this has to do with gender issues and changing desires for current generations of Japanese men and women. One of the teachers explained to me that societal pressures interfered with romance and male and female expectations of one another made them incompatible in many areas. I see similar trends worldwide...

Indeed, men want to be supporters of their family, it's all about Japanese tradition. Men not taking care of their families are seen on as 'failures', so a lot of them withdraw from society.


Besides, 'love' has become a commodity more than anything else in Japan, it's a giant business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpZbu7J7UL4

This video explains the phenomen in detail very well.

[arcticwolf]

So animal species which are extinct due to a low birthrate are smarter then humans?

This argument is silly. Animals do not consciously make a decision to have less offsprings. We are talking about humans here.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

The problem isnt that many people dont get girlfriends/boyfriends the significant factor is that women want a career and one or more children will hinder them in their career which is a shame.

I don't know that they really 'want' it but since all the women work, it's now very hard to have a house that's nice without a two income family.

[Kiyant]

I don't know that they really 'want' it but since all the women work, it's now very hard to have a house that's nice without a two income family.

But for many women more then one child is a big hardship and they dont want that (i dont speak about all many have also different reasons)

[blklady2013]

I don't know that they really 'want' it but since all the women work, it's now very hard to have a house that's nice without a two income family.
That's the problem. Desire for a certain lifestyle means the reality of both parents working in today's economy in many different countries. Both parents working means the reality of oftentimes a breakdown in relationships. Not all of the time, but in a lot of cases. Current job requirements don't really encourage or support strong family structures. Another Japanese instructor told me that she is married, but only sees her husband on Sundays and even then he is too tired to really do anything and they spend the rest of their time helping to care for their children and parents or preparing for school next week. They love each other and contrary to the patriarchal stereotypes about Asian men, she said he was very helpful around the house and they helped each other when they both got home from work. But generating income doesn't leave a lot of time for building relationships.
I don't know if her situation was indicative of all the dynamics in Japan's culture, but I see lots of parallels worldwide.

[RussiaPrussia]

That's why Ashkenazim Jews have the highest 'IQ's' but at the same time the highest birthrate in their respective societies. See Israel for example.

'Intelligence' was a selection factor in human evolution. So how could hominids reach such a peak in terms of brain size and intelligence when according to you only the dumbest procreate like rabbits?

It is not the 'dumbest' who procreate like rabbits in general. It is just that in current industrialized achievement-oriented society, the ability to be financially successful and at the same time to have a lot of children is rather low. And trying to equalize the higher social class with high intelligence and people of lower classes with low intelligence is rather simple-minded.

thats not true, israel has in every education study the lower positions than europeans and east asians. Even the best of the bests of israel are inferior to east asians and russians best students

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113734-Russians-are-the-smartest-White-Folks-not-Jews-or-Germans

[Argang]

Solution: develop a bus stop culture.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/20/article-0-0B46DD76000005DC-54_634x722.jpg

[Leo Iscariot]

I don't have the source, but I recall reading once that this is just amongst the Yamato people (a.k.a. The 'Japanese') and the other indigenous peoples like the Ainu and Ryukyuans are still reproducing just fine.

At any rate, Japan will probably just try to bring in descendants from the Japanese diaspora to bolster the population again.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Solution: develop a bus stop culture.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/20/article-0-0B46DD76000005DC-54_634x722.jpg

Look how fat all those bitches are. Jesus.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Beef and meat eating is at a all time high soo....
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Japan was always a very sexual nation, if you look at the classical high art and common art of the people it is very clear fertility was always at the forefront of the Japanese mind.

I mean just look up Shunga art to see what I mean (but its NSFW!)

Its very multilayered: post-War Japan was a strange period, I would also say that Tokyo and other major cities are being extravagated by the media here although it is epidemic among low achievers, Otaku, and the socially isolated.

I really feel it was the destruction and censoring of sexuality that left a real affect on the citizenry.

Look up what the Americans forced on the Japanese: Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan.

Started off a good post but you just couldn't resist. Even the population downturn in Japan is the fault of the white man.

[zhaoyun]

My experiences with the Japanese is that they are overly polite, but very reluctant to become close to you or to let you know their true feelings, especially when they disagree with you. I think this extreme culture of politeness has made many Japanese very socially awkward and the OP's video is a result of that trend.

[Neanderthal]

We live in a world where a career in 'social sciences' or whatever other inane crap is more important for a woman than having kids, sad... or at least partially, population decrease would mean more opportunities for the future offspring of people interested in forming a family, sadly (again), most kids born nowadays are not planned and even worse, they come from one or even two lineages with genetic and spiritual anomalies.

[Methusalem]

Started off a good post but you just couldn't resist. Even the population downturn in Japan is the fault of the white man.

xD

[Ultra]

Solution: develop a bus stop culture.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/20/article-0-0B46DD76000005DC-54_634x722.jpg

Look how fat all those bitches are. Jesus.
And lol, holy shit, those fat bitches all look like they are in their late 40s already while most of them aren't even 25 yet.. :puke:

[KidMulat]

Started off a good post but you just couldn't resist. Even the population downturn in Japan is the fault of the white man.

Well history is not always good; a thousand years of healthy sexual behavior in the arts and not until their defeat and American Occupation and literal laws implemented did it go away.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

And lol, holy shit, those fat bitches all look like they are in their late 40s already while most of them aren't even 25 yet.. :puke:

I didn't notice their ages. Here in Vegas I see this same disease. I suspect part of it is genetic. I am dating girl in her 40s now who is smoking hot and looks younger than all the girls in their 20s she works with.

But I meet girls who look like they had an accident smoking in bed and never got medical attention, who turn out to be 24.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Geekiest culture in the world.

[random777]

Well this isnt really big deal, it is happening all around in the modern world but we just dont realize it because we get so much immigrants that keep our birth rate up and harass native women.

Modern world with high living standards = not much sex or familylife, and population shrinking.

[SkyBurn]

I was going to open an entire thread about my recent time in Japan, and what their culture was like (in all it's complexity).

But it would've taken so much effort :P

[random777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
This is happening in Japan, and all around the world. Tell me a big modern city with fertility rate over 2.1/woman without immigrants or people from rural areas moving in.

[Lurker]

They will import Kazakhs anyways to help. Many Kazakhs live in Japan and the first mosque was built by Kazakhs:)

I think they're importing Filipinos. Lots of Filipino-Japanese intermarriage happen, with the Japanese being elderly men from rural areas.

Regarding the population decline in Japan, I think it has to do with legal abortion (20% of pregnancies end in this) and employment decline (the newest generation gets crappier jobs compared to the previous generation, with less benefits and security, so they feel they're not as well off to raise children).

Lack of feminism+ rise of consumerism also has something to do with this. Japanese women are overwhelmed with ads to consume expensive stuff, but society frowns upon they maintaining their careers after they marry and have children. The solution? Never marry and consume expensive stuff all your life. Use the money you'd spend on children to buy Gucci handbags and so on.

There aren't also daycare centers in Japan, at least not as many as in Europe or US. Women are really pressured into staying at home after a certain point in their lives, to take care of the children. Since consuming seems so much better, they prefer the 2nd option.

Also, it must be said that Japan has let in many less immigrants than other countries. If there was 0 immigration in Europe, it would be facing population decline as Japan is. The US population wouldn't be increasing without immigration, it'd have remained stable in the last 20 years.

[Lurker]

Beef and meat eating is at a all time high soo....
_____________________

Japan was always a very sexual nation, if you look at the classical high art and common art of the people it is very clear fertility was always at the forefront of the Japanese mind.

I mean just look up Shunga art to see what I mean (but its NSFW!)

Its very multilayered: post-War Japan was a strange period, I would also say that Tokyo and other major cities are being extravagated by the media here although it is epidemic among low achievers, Otaku, and the socially isolated.

I really feel it was the destruction and censoring of sexuality that left a real affect on the citizenry.

Look up what the Americans forced on the Japanese: Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan.

It's not just because porn is censored that society's sexual desire will crumble. For most of humanity's time there was no porn, or porn consisted of a crude drawing on a cave. It's not because they censor it in Japan that society is fucked up. Even if censored, they still make a huge amount of porn videos and related material. There's a huge market for it. I think this has to do more with economic factors rather than cultural.

[Nehellenia]

I don't know how Hentai can be more attractive than their women, LOL
No i actually feel bad for the women :P

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Russiaprussia maybe you should help with this :D

Yep, perfect timing and place to give his contribution, either now or never. :rolleyes:

[Nehellenia]

Sad but true.

I was sitting next to some girl as she chatted to her friend about why she wants to be single. She is a little fat, and not even really cute at all. She goes on about her career (which is something stupid like marketing) and how she'd only settle with a guy who is more educated than her and makes more money, and he has to be great in bed and have a good size penis and this other giant laundry list of crap.

I couldn't even believe my ears, there was no chance in hell she'd get 1/10th of this. I think men and women both get spoiled easily, and have some delusional expectations. Then they'd rather end up with nothing, than settle.

Lol, The 21st century has made a lot more people feel more entitled :coffee:

[curupira]

Married or single, Japan is a desolate country
BY MICHAEL HOFFMAN
SPECIAL TO THE JAPAN TIMES

AUG 31, 2013
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“The past century is a history of sexual distortion,” social psychologist Hiroyoshi Ishikawa told Time Magazine in 1983.

“A small portion of young people in Japan are sexually very, very active,” he added, “while the vast majority are sexually repressed.”

What would he say if he surveyed the scene today? Probably that not much has changed in 30 years — except that the “small portion” grows steadily smaller.

Japan is a lonely, lonely country, if two reports, one in Spa magazine and the other in the weekly Aera, reflect the true state of things. The former focuses on single life, the latter on marriage. Both come across as sad, abject, mournful failures. You wouldn’t choose either, if you had a choice — and what else is there?

Spa polls 600 single men aged 35-45. They are some of the freest people on Earth — accountable to no one, responsible for no one, well enough off financially. They can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Why are they miserable?

“I was sick, I had a noro virus,” recalls a 41-year-old executive — “and there was nobody around to even bring me a glass of water.”

“Who can I go traveling with?” sighs a 38-year-old civil servant. “All my friends are married and have kids — they can’t come with me.”

“With someone you love, even McDonald’s would be delicious. With my parents, the best-cooked meal is just a chore to slog through,” complains a 39-year-old banker.

“Everyone at work is forever going on about child-care issues — ‘day-care centers in my neighborhood give you such a warm welcome; medical treatment for kids is free,’ and so on and so on. What am I supposed to contribute to this?” grumbles a 38-year-old office worker.

“I see all those happy families,” confides a 45-year-old businessman, “and think to myself, ‘Even if I get married tomorrow’ — which isn’t going to happen — ‘I’ll be 57 when my kids are that age.’ “

Other questions aside, are “all those happy families” really so happy? Not if we believe Aera, whose subject — not the anomaly it sounds — is sexless marriage. Between 40 percent and 50 percent of all marriages in Japan are said to be sexless.

In old Japan, marriage was essentially a device to produce family heirs. That done, husbands typically pursued love, eros and romance in the licensed pleasure quarters while wives seethed at home in silent frustration. The sexless marriage of today is different. Aera cites research by gynecologist Kunio Kitamura showing its leading causes: for men, fatigue from work; for women, a weary feeling that “sex is more trouble than it’s worth.”

Psychiatrist Teruo Abe tells Aera of a new, or newly identified, syndrome among married couples: “sex disgust syndrome.” It seems a predominantly male affliction. It is not impotence; merely a sexual aversion for one’s wife — rooted, according to Abe, in a tendency for the marital relationship to evolve over the years into a quite different relationship: mother-son, for example, or sister-brother, or friend-friend (never father-daughter, it seems). In some cases one spouse becomes the other’s “mascot.” And sometimes, of course, there arises outright mutual hostility, not to say hatred.

Mother-son is most common, says Abe — which explains the “disgust” characteristic of the syndrome. It is, he adds, very difficult to cure.

Shouldn’t singles, instead of brooding over their loneliness, count their blessings? Why should a man get married, after all? Why should he saddle himself with family cares, family expenses, a family’s claim on his time, only to end up sexless? What’s in it for him? At least a bachelor can enjoy a syndrome-free sex life — can’t he?

Theoretically, yes; in real life, apparently not. Spa’s survey of 600 finds 72.3 percent have no girlfriend; 36.7 percent have been sexless for more than three years.

This is more than sad — it’s dangerous, warns psychiatrist Takehiko Kasuga. “It is becoming increasingly clear,” he tells the magazine, “that isolation is a factor in dementia. If you habitually spend your days off without anyone to talk to, by the time you’re into your 50s and 60s you could find yourself on the road to dementia” — or if not that, depression, to which under the best of circumstances we tend to grow more vulnerable as we age.

What has gone wrong with us? What have we done to ourselves?

Well, we work too hard; everyone knows that. It’s not entirely our fault; the economy demands it of us. Forty hours a week is considered more or less normal. Work 60 hours, and researchers consider you a candidate forkarōshi (death from overwork). Gynecologist Kitamura has calculated a line beyond which we’re in danger of being too tired for sex — 49 hours.

A more subtle factor is sex education, which Japan somehow can’t seem to get right, Aera hears from Kagawa Nutrition University nutrition professor Noriko Hashimoto. She reviews Japanese sex education over the past 20 years and concludes, “No wonder we’re sexless.”

Sex education in the 1990s, Hashimoto explains, was a panicked response to the AIDS epidemic of the ’80s. Suddenly fifth-graders were handed textbooks showing mature human bodies making babies. It was too much too fast. Sex was made to look ugly, dirty, clinical. The reaction that set in seems the epitome of good intentions gone wrong. The naked human body illustrations were scrapped, and in their place — reader, you’ll never guess —copulating sea urchins.

Any questions?

http://awsadmin.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/31/national/married-or-single-japan-is-a-desolate-country/#.UiYSVdKmjSk

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Interesting article in post above. Basically all the damage of prostitution and arranged marriage coming home to roost. Only thing to that works is date a while, find someone you have chemistry with who has good character, fall in love and get married. Deviating from God's plan doesn't work out on a societal level - you wind up with 5 hugh heffner's and a billion guys who don't even have someone to eat mc donald's with.

[zhaoyun]

Interesting article in post above. Basically all the damage of prostitution and arranged marriage coming home to roost. Only thing to that works is date a while, find someone you have chemistry with who has good character, fall in love and get married. Deviating from God's plan doesn't work out on a societal level - you wind up with 5 hugh heffner's and a billion guys who don't even have someone to eat mc donald's with.


Nah, its all the anime tentacle porn man.

[zhaoyun]

The fact is that most young Japanese are somewhat socially retarded. They dont have the social skills to get action.

[Watch_Owl]

If I had to take a wild guess, it'd be their geek culture causing less sex.

[Tifa Lockhart]

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[Beit El]

A documentary I've seen on this actually blamed a large part of it on feminism and women who aim more for a career rather than motherhood.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

A documentary I've seen on this actually blamed a large part of it on feminism and women who aim more for a career rather than motherhood.

I think that's a lot of it in US. Mainly it's just not possible to get enough money to afford kids without working two jobs, especially not at young age you are supposed to have kids.

[Lurker]

Interesting article in post above. Basically all the damage of prostitution and arranged marriage coming home to roost. Only thing to that works is date a while, find someone you have chemistry with who has good character, fall in love and get married. Deviating from God's plan doesn't work out on a societal level - you wind up with 5 hugh heffner's and a billion guys who don't even have someone to eat mc donald's with.

Arranged marriages used to be quite common in the West before the 19th century. Daughters didn't have a say about who they were going to marry, their fathers (or mothers) decided it for them.

[CordedWhelp]

A currently only somewhat exaggerated version of what's seen in the west as well.

The plan is to eliminate the backbone of society. Making folks confuse their own biology with a "progressive" mask is the way it happens, and all the while, instilling emotional programming that the masculine is "dangerous" and "shallow". The increase in (I hate to use the term) uber beta-males gives way to more sexually confused gives way to people brought up in fuzzy minded, emotionally-dominant states of mind where opinions- and their idea of reality itself- is fluid.

Staying bold in principle and objective is all the more important (not that there's ever a time to not be).