Any famous mtDNA U5 members????!!!

[Fire Haired]

I don't understand why there are no known famous members of mtDNA U5. Our lineage is superior to every lineage(just joking), yet I can't find one famous member. I know there must be some famous people(alive or dead) who are members of U5. Every member of U5 should search for famous members. Maciamo just made an article for U5(click here (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml)), at all of his Y DNA and mtDNA articles he lists famous members but doesn't have any modern people for U5, just cheddar man who had U5 like the majority of Mesolithic Europeans. I have researched for over an hour and could only find one somewhat famous person Mechtild of Holstein (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMatilda _of_Holstein&ei=s20AU4XjAobOyAGRiYHwCg&usg=AFQjCNFTwN7mkYl9BAhUvCHDPWUaQidv-g&sig2=KqfYFiOt-nbW-axDtFsd5Q&bvm=bv.61535280,d.aWc)(U5b1).

I also want to say to all U5 members that I think we should create a U5 group. We can work together to research the history of U5 and related subjects. Our group page should be full of information about the history of U5 we can make threads having to do with U5 and lots of other good stuff. I except us to have the most impressive group. It would be fun to compete with other mtDNA groups(if there are any).

[Fire Haired]

Well I guess La Brana-1 because of the media is somewhat famous. U5 was dominate in European hunter gatherers(no matter what age) so that shouldn't count(like with Cheddar man).
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[Mazik]

V > U5

[Fire Haired]

V > U5

This is how it works: Greater than>less than, so U5>V. It is alright we all make mistakes. Sometimes I forget which sign is plus and which is minus.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

My guess is that mainly people get a genetic test when they are iffy on their ancestry, so I am sure this skews the results, with a few historic figures who get tested thrown in on the other end.

[Fire Haired]

My guess is that mainly people get a genetic test when they are iffy on their ancestry, so I am sure this skews the results, with a few historic figures who get tested thrown in on the other end.

There are probably many different reasons why people take DNA tests. Eventually a famous member of U5(like Babe Ruth) will pop up. I am sure there were many high ranking people with U5 from Mesolithic-Upper Palaeolithic Europe.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

This is how it works: Greater than>less than, so U5>V. It is alright we all make mistakes. Sometimes I forget which sign is plus and which is minus.

You have U5 and I have V. Theory proven.

[Fire Haired]

U5 POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHWOO AHWOO AHWOO!!!!!
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[Fire Haired]

You have U5 and I have V. Theory proven.

So your saying V is better? Why are you to ashamed to put it own your profile? What's your Y DNA haplogroup?

[Thrax]

Yes, me :D

[Prisoner Of Ice]

So your saying V is better? Why are you to ashamed to put it own our profile?

I am only kidding, though it might in fact be better because it is newer and probably being selected on for some reason. Might be part of why I am so healthy and smarats,

I don't put it on my profile because that's kind of weird.

[Fire Haired]

I am only kidding, though it might in fact be better because it is newer and probably being selected on for some reason. Might be part of why I am so healthy and smarats,

I don't put it on my profile because that's kind of weird.

I don't know much about mtDNA V, could have been in Mesolithic Europe and could have come with near eastern farmers, maybe it is from north Africa. I doubt it was selected just maybe was one of many EVIL!!!! farmer maternal lineages that replaced native U5, U4, U2e, U2d, U*, and others.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I don't know much about mtDNA V, could have been in Mesolithic Europe and could have come with near eastern farmers, maybe it is from north Africa. I doubt it was selected just maybe was one of many EVIL!!!! farmer maternal lineages that replaced native U5, U4, U2e, U2d, U*, and others.

Well it is highest in saami and exist mostly only in the 'atlantic facade'. The neolithic farmers weren't evil, they just didn't come from where you think.

[Fire Haired]

Yes, me :D

Brother, What do you think about a U5 group(the whole U5 superiority thing is a joke)?

[Fire Haired]

Well it is highest in saami and exist mostly only in the 'atlantic facade'. The neolithic farmers weren't evil, they just didn't come from where you think.

An expert on archeology of Neolithic Europe would know much better than me. It is true though that they replaced most European maternal lineages and most European genes period. I doubt it was conquest or intentional and besides I am just joking around. What is the diversity of V in different regions? that can help figure out where it originated. If HVO*, sister clades to V, and a variety of distinct V subclades exist in a certain region there is a good chance it originated there. Just because V is most popular in Sammi, western Europe, or where ever does not mean that's where it originated.

[Thrax]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml

And here's a list I found in Eupedia put in chronological order:
Elisabeth of Bavaria (c. 1227-1273) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (1229-1294) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry XIII, Duke of Bavaria (1235-1290) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Elizabeth of Carinthia (1262-1312) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry VI of Carinthia (c. 1270–1335) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Rudolf I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria, King of Bohemia, and titular King of Poland (1282-1307) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Frederick I the Fair, Duke of Austria and Styria, and King of Germany (1289-1330) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Leopold I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria (1290-1326) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1298-1358) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Otto I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1301-1339) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Joanna of Bavaria (c. 1362–1386) => U5b* (mtDNA)
William II, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Holland, Zeeland and Hainaut (1365–1417) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II (1369-1397) => U5b* (mtDNA)
John III, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Count of Holland and Hainaut (1374/76-1425) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II, King of Germany and Archduke of Austria (1397-1439) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Louis IX, Duke of Bavaria-Landshut (1417-1479) => U5b* (mtDNA)
James III of Scotland (1451-1488) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Philip I of Castile, King of Castile and ruler of the Burgundian Netherlands => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry IV of France (1553-1610) => R1b-Z381 (Y-DNA) U5b* (mtDNA)

[Prisoner Of Ice]

An expert on archeology of Neolithic Europe would know much better than me. It is true though that they replaced most European maternal lineages and most European genes period. I doubt it was conquest or intentional and besides I am just joking around. What is the diversity of V in different regions? that can help figure out where it originated. If HVO*, sister clades to V, and a variety of distinct V subclades exist in a certain region there is a good chance it originated there. Just because V is most popular in Sammi, western Europe, or where ever does not mean that's where it originated.

It's pretty rare. Aside from saami the highest it gets is 10% in any population.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

V is more proof that H formed in europe, btw. H and V are sister clades, but V is found only in iberia, north africa, and the atlantic. So actually it probably did come from neolithic farmers. Just not from the near east, where it does not exist.

A lot of this stuff is so obvious, but gets pushed aside for ridiculous reasons because most people just care to make some retarded political statement.

[Fire Haired]

It's pretty rare. Aside from saami the highest it gets is 10% in any population.

You could probably get good info on V diversity by region through FTDNA, Eupedia, and studies. I have doubts it existed in European hunter gatherers. There are what seem to be for sure members of RO from Upper Paleolithic Europe plus many subclades of H(some very rare like my dad's H64) which are exclusive to Europe and most diverse in Europe, good chance they originated there.

[Stimpy]

mtDNA U5 is obviously the coolest, most intresting haplogroup there is. True ancient European haplogroup!!

[Fire Haired]

V is more proof that H formed in europe, btw. H and V are sister clades, but V is found only in iberia, north africa, and the atlantic. So actually it probably did come from neolithic farmers. Just not from the near east, where it does not exist.

A lot of this stuff is so obvious, but gets pushed aside for ridiculous reasons because most people just care to make some retarded political statement.

Melonhead you have a similar trait to me(that used to be much stronger) you make big assumptions from little evidence. H most likely originated in the near east not many would argue against it. Saying it originated in Europe is ignoring the evidence.

[Fire Haired]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml

And here's a list I found in Eupedia put in chronological order:
Elisabeth of Bavaria (c. 1227-1273) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (1229-1294) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry XIII, Duke of Bavaria (1235-1290) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Elizabeth of Carinthia (1262-1312) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry VI of Carinthia (c. 1270–1335) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Rudolf I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria, King of Bohemia, and titular King of Poland (1282-1307) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Frederick I the Fair, Duke of Austria and Styria, and King of Germany (1289-1330) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Leopold I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria (1290-1326) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1298-1358) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Otto I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1301-1339) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Joanna of Bavaria (c. 1362–1386) => U5b* (mtDNA)
William II, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Holland, Zeeland and Hainaut (1365–1417) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II (1369-1397) => U5b* (mtDNA)
John III, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Count of Holland and Hainaut (1374/76-1425) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Albert II, King of Germany and Archduke of Austria (1397-1439) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Louis IX, Duke of Bavaria-Landshut (1417-1479) => U5b* (mtDNA)
James III of Scotland (1451-1488) => U5b* (mtDNA)
Philip I of Castile, King of Castile and ruler of the Burgundian Netherlands => U5b* (mtDNA)
Henry IV of France (1553-1610) => R1b-Z381 (Y-DNA) U5b* (mtDNA)

WOW!!!! That is a long line of royal U5b. I learned about some of these people in history class I had we were all U5b members.

DNA was taken from a head thought to be Henry IV's the Y DNA was G2a and mtDNA U5b but Y DNA taken from three known modern male descendants showed they were all apart of the same lineage and Y DNA R1b Z381. So the head may not have been his same with the U5b. I guess though if his maternal line has proven to be U5b then he was. Maybe Henry IV didn't father any boys and he really did have G2a because DNA taken from blood though to be Louis XVI was also G2a and matched in STR's.

[Argang]

Many people claiming direct paternal or maternal descent from famous individuals could also avoid tests because they fear their claims of unbroken line would be disproven.

The Rurikid Ftdna project for descendants of Prince Rurik is a good example of how those things can happen. Rurik was a specific type of N1c1 haplogroup (L550+ L1025-) which is shared by many princes claiming descent. However...


it was discovered that a couple of Volkonsky, Obolensky and Bariatynsky princes belong to Slavic (genetic haplogroup R1a1) branch. However, in another project one of the Volkonsky princes was found to belong to the N1c1 haplogroup and he is well matching other Rurikids. So, we can say that by all means a NPE event occurred in case of some of these princes.

...

Prince Jerzy Czartoryski of Canada decided to have his Y-DNA tested in spite of what historians speculate(d) about the descent of his princely branch. It is believed that his G...Grandmother, the princess Izabella Czartoryska (nee Fleming) had her 1st son with the Rurikid prince Nikolai Vasilievich Repnin, while it was Armand-Louis de Gontaut-Biron, Duc de Lauzun, who fathered the 2nd son, Konstanty, from whom Prince Jerzy descends. Prince Jerzy was found to be descended from a Germanic tribe (R1b1).

...

Prince Stanislaw Antoni Czetwertynski was found to belong to the I2a2 haplogroup. By no means is he descended from Rurik. His genetic haplotype is typical for the native population of the Belarussian-Ukrainian Polissiya region. This can also mean that Prince Tur(e), who founded the dynasty of the Turov-Pinsk princes, wasn’t at all descended from Rurik.



Still, these people have actual inherited titles that they won't lose because of old non-paternity events so it's no biggie. If you're just an ordinary fellow whose claims of direct descent don't match genetic results, well, that's the end of those claims.

[Nehellenia]

I thought i was U5 for over a year, but now i seem to have conflicting DNA results showing K from another lab, so i'm just totally confused by this point.

[Caismeachd]

I thought i was U5 for over a year, but now i seem to have conflicting DNA results showing K from another lab, so i'm just totally confused by this point.

Were your first results from 23andme? Which company did you get the 2nd results from?

[Nehellenia]

Were your first results from 23andme? Which company did you get the 2nd results from?

My K results were from Genebase and i've gotten a partial genetic test which said U5b by Geno 2.0.
Both pointed to a similar genetic origin though.

[Fire Haired]

I thought i was U5 for over a year, but now i seem to have conflicting DNA results showing K from another lab, so i'm just totally confused by this point.

Was your result U in the first test and K in the next? K is a subclade of U8b and apart of U like U5.

[Caismeachd]

My K results were from Genebase and i've gotten a partial genetic test which said U5b by Geno 2.0.
Both pointed to a similar genetic origin though.

Those both seem like crappy companies. Sorry. I was paranoid 23andme messed up my results or just gave me random bullshit but they really matched me up to true family that also joined the site so I can't doubt them.

[Fire Haired]

My K results were from Genebase and i've gotten a partial genetic test which said U5b by Geno 2.0.
Both pointed to a similar genetic origin though.

Oh no I hope this doesn't mean I might not have U5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nehellenia]

Oh no I hope this doesn't mean I might not have U5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Geno 2.0 is better than genebase. What company did you use? :)

[Fire Haired]

I think Geno 2.0 is better than genebase. What company did you use? :)

FTDNA same test this guy (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CFgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geneamusings.com%2F2013%2F06% 2Freceived-my-mitochondrial-dna-test.html&ei=RAwBU8v6NeGEyAHP44HQCQ&usg=AFQjCNG6BpWDbNKUVPrr8utZmmJFXIxoMA&sig2=H0CpsPVnfjtQsuW5OgpJmw&bvm=bv.61535280,d.aWM) took. I know I have U5 I looked at my HVR1 and HVR2 differences with RSRS and I have the defining markers of U5. All my HVR1 and HVR2 matches are under U5b2a2, that is why I say I have U5b2a2.

[cally]

Don't forget your U4 cousins :)

[cally]

My K results were from Genebase and i've gotten a partial genetic test which said U5b by Geno 2.0.
Both pointed to a similar genetic origin though.

Really? try this: http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ see what you get :)

[Fire Haired]

Really? try this: http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ see what you get :)

Thank you very much for that I tested my own results and my best match is U5b2a2. I have some but very little understanding of how defining mtDNA haplogroups works. I took an inexpensive test that only tested HVR1 and HVR2 I did not test CR(whatever that is) which has defining mutations for U5b2a2 subclades. At my FTDNA matches page all my matches were U5 except the ones that also testes FMS(Whatever that is) who were all under U5b2a2. I also have two extra mutations(differences from rCRS) in HVR2 I have no idea what that might mean maybe I am the first sampled member of U5b2a2d.

[Fire Haired]

Don't forget your U4 cousins :)

U4 was the second most popular mtDNA haplogroup of Mesolithic Europeans, so we accept you guys but your still not at our leval. After we conquer the world and exterminate all of the evil farmer lineages U4, U2e, U2d members can be our servants.

[cally]

Thank you very much for that I tested my own results and my best match is U5b2a2. I have some but very little understanding of how defining mtDNA haplogroups works. I took an inexpensive test that only tested HVR1 and HVR2 I did not test CR(whatever that is) which has defining mutations for U5b2a2 subclades. At my FTDNA matches page all my matches were U5 except the ones that also testes FMS(Whatever that is) who were all under U5b2a2. I also have two extra mutations(differences from rCRS) in HVR2 I have no idea what that might mean maybe I am the first sampled member of U5b2a2d.

No problem, that's great :) 23andme is quite accurate for haplogroup testing it seems, since my best match is U4d2

[Fire Haired]

No problem, that's great :) 23andme is quite accurate for haplogroup testing it seems, since my best match is U4d2

Did 23andme and that predictor say you are U4d2?

[cally]

Did 23andme and that predictor say you are U4d2?

Yeah both of them said the same :)

[Anglojew]

U5 rocks!!

[Fire Haired]

U5 rocks!!

What company did you test with? Did they list HVR1 and HVR2 differences with rCRS and RSRS? If they listed the differences with rCRS you can you this (http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/) predictor callmyname showed me to maybe find what subclade you belong too. It seems pretty certain I have U5b2a2 and I think I may belong to an unknown lineage(so U5b2a2d) defined by HVR2 mutations 263G 315.1C. I have little knowledge with how the science behind this works so I may be wrong. IF I do have U5b2a2d that increases to diversity of U5b2a2 in central Europe which is where U5b2a2 today is most popular, has been found in an over 10,000 year old Mesolithic sample, and may have originated.

[Fire Haired]

U5 rocks!!

There are a lot of U5 people at this site.

[Anglojew]

What company did you test with? Did they list HVR1 and HVR2 differences with rCRS and RSRS? If they listed the differences with rCRS you can you this (http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/) predictor callmyname showed me to maybe find what subclade you belong too. It seems pretty certain I have U5b2a2 and I think I may belong to an unknown lineage(so U5b2a2d) defined by HVR2 mutations 263G 315.1C. I have little knowledge with how the science behind this works so I may be wrong. IF I do have U5b2a2d that increases to diversity of U5b2a2 in central Europe which is where U5b2a2 today is most popular, has been found in an over 10,000 year old Mesolithic sample, and may have originated.

23andme I'll check it out thanks. I'm U5b2a but I'll use that program to find out more.

[Fire Haired]

23andme I'll check it out thanks. I'm U5b2a but I'll use that program to find out more.

We are more related than I thought both of us have U5b2a. Did 23andme say you have U5b2a? Where is your maternal line from? My best guess would be central-west Europe like me.

[Anglojew]

We are more related than I thought both of us have U5b2a. Did 23andme say you have U5b2a? Where is your maternal line from? My best guess would be central-west Europe like me.

Yes from 23andme. England. I'll check more info with my mother. Her paternal lines ultimately French but not sure if that's her Welsh side or English ultimately.

[Jackson]

Of course we all know that U5a is the best out of the U5. :D

[Anglojew]

Of course we all know that U5a is the best out of the U5. :D

Racially superior obviously. Born leaders. Kings of men.

[Fire Haired]

Of course we all know that U5a is the best out of the U5. :D

Don't start conflicts within U5, we are all equal to each other and superior to all others. See I am a very tolerant person.

[Fire Haired]

AngloJew why don't you list yourself as U5b2a, also did you use that predictor? If you have HVR1 G16398A listed as a difference with RSRS that means you have U5b2a2, if you have you have 215G and 315.1C listed as differences with rCRS because that would make you my only HVR1 and HVR2 match(I think I may be the only person sampled with them).

[Anglojew]

AngloJew why don't you list yourself as U5b2a, also did you use that predictor? If you have HVR1 G16398A listed as a difference with RSRS that means you have U5b2a2, if you have you have 215G and 315.1C listed as differences with rCRS because that would make you my only HVR1 and HVR2 match(I think I may be the only person sampled with them).

I haven't had a chance yet. I'm my iPad. I'll let you know. I just left my profile pretty general I'm Q1b but just put Q.

[Dál Riata]

Don't start conflicts within U5, we are all equal to each other and superior to all others. See I am a very tolerant person.

Hey, we're called U5a for a reason brother! We're the Alphas and you're the Betas. :cool:

Don't worry, we still love you guys and you're still superior to everyone else, but we've all got different roles in the tribe. And they obviously named us U5a for a reason!

[Fire Haired]

AngloJew why don't you list yourself as U5b2a, also did you use that predictor? If you have HVR1 G16398A listed as a difference with RSRS that means you have U5b2a2, Do you have 215G and 315.1C listed as differences with rCRS because that would make you are my only HVR1 and HVR2 match(I think I may be the only person sampled with them).

[cally]

AngloJew why don't you list yourself as U5b2a, also did you use that predictor? If you have HVR1 G16398A listed as a difference with RSRS that means you have U5b2a2, Do you have 215G and 315.1C listed as differences with rCRS because that would make you are my only HVR1 and HVR2 match(I think I may be the only person sampled with them).

Is it really that rare?

[Fire Haired]

Is it really that rare?

No samples at FTDNA match my HVR2, but ~80,000(all in Europe or United States) match me in HVR1. I have all of the markers in HVR1 and HVR2 of U5b2a2 but the predictor said I have two extra differences to rCRS in HVR2. Do you have HVR1 and HVR2 matches? I don't know what these results mean and hopefully I can take the FMS test. I think I may be the first sampled member of an unknown U5b2a2 subclade, I couldn't imagine a better result.

[Black Wolf]

Ahem all of us U5 haplogroup member are a rather awesome bunch. We descend directly from the first peoples of Europe. We should be famous for just being alive today! :P

[Jackson]

Ahem all of us U5 haplogroup member are a rather awesome bunch. We descend directly from the first peoples os Europe. We should be famous for just being alive today! :P

Plus if one of us becomes famous we can always just re-post in this thread, if it's still around. :D

[Black Wolf]

I don't understand why there are no known famous members of mtDNA U5. Our lineage is superior to every lineage(just joking), yet I can't find one famous member. I know there must be some famous people(alive or dead) who are members of U5. Every member of U5 should search for famous members. Maciamo just made an article for U5(click here (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml)), at all of his Y DNA and mtDNA articles he lists famous members but doesn't have any modern people for U5, just cheddar man who had U5 like the majority of Mesolithic Europeans. I have researched for over an hour and could only find one somewhat famous person Mechtild of Holstein (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMatilda _of_Holstein&ei=s20AU4XjAobOyAGRiYHwCg&usg=AFQjCNFTwN7mkYl9BAhUvCHDPWUaQidv-g&sig2=KqfYFiOt-nbW-axDtFsd5Q&bvm=bv.61535280,d.aWc)(U5b1).

I also want to say to all U5 members that I think we should create a U5 group. We can work together to research the history of U5 and related subjects. Our group page should be full of information about the history of U5 we can make threads having to do with U5 and lots of other good stuff. I except us to have the most impressive group. It would be fun to compete with other mtDNA groups(if there are any).

I think it is a great idea to create a mtDNA haplogroup U5 group here! Count me in if you create it brother! :D

[Black Wolf]

FTDNA same test this guy (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CFgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geneamusings.com%2F2013%2F06% 2Freceived-my-mitochondrial-dna-test.html&ei=RAwBU8v6NeGEyAHP44HQCQ&usg=AFQjCNG6BpWDbNKUVPrr8utZmmJFXIxoMA&sig2=H0CpsPVnfjtQsuW5OgpJmw&bvm=bv.61535280,d.aWM) took. I know I have U5 I looked at my HVR1 and HVR2 differences with RSRS and I have the defining markers of U5. All my HVR1 and HVR2 matches are under U5b2a2, that is why I say I have U5b2a2.

I have taken the mtDNA tests from FTDNA, 23andme and Geno 2.0 and all said U5b2c so I know I am good lol.

[Black Wolf]

Thank you very much for that I tested my own results and my best match is U5b2a2. I have some but very little understanding of how defining mtDNA haplogroups works. I took an inexpensive test that only tested HVR1 and HVR2 I did not test CR(whatever that is) which has defining mutations for U5b2a2 subclades. At my FTDNA matches page all my matches were U5 except the ones that also testes FMS(Whatever that is) who were all under U5b2a2. I also have two extra mutations(differences from rCRS) in HVR2 I have no idea what that might mean maybe I am the first sampled member of U5b2a2d.

FMS means Full mtDNA Sequence. Those people (like me) have had their entire mtDNA tested.

[Black Wolf]

BTW if any of you U5 haplogroup members here are on Facebook are are interested in joining the U5 group there go ahead and please join. I am the creator. :)

[Black Wolf]

I don't understand why there are no known famous members of mtDNA U5. Our lineage is superior to every lineage(just joking), yet I can't find one famous member. I know there must be some famous people(alive or dead) who are members of U5. Every member of U5 should search for famous members. Maciamo just made an article for U5(click here (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml)), at all of his Y DNA and mtDNA articles he lists famous members but doesn't have any modern people for U5, just cheddar man who had U5 like the majority of Mesolithic Europeans. I have researched for over an hour and could only find one somewhat famous person Mechtild of Holstein (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMatilda _of_Holstein&ei=s20AU4XjAobOyAGRiYHwCg&usg=AFQjCNFTwN7mkYl9BAhUvCHDPWUaQidv-g&sig2=KqfYFiOt-nbW-axDtFsd5Q&bvm=bv.61535280,d.aWc)(U5b1).

I also want to say to all U5 members that I think we should create a U5 group. We can work together to research the history of U5 and related subjects. Our group page should be full of information about the history of U5 we can make threads having to do with U5 and lots of other good stuff. I except us to have the most impressive group. It would be fun to compete with other mtDNA groups(if there are any).

So are you thinking about creating a U5 group here still or not?