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02-23-2014, 02:20 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_of_Nagyszentmikl%C3%B3s
Help me decode this language. Found in:
http://i61.tinypic.com/efjn2d.png
The language is Turkic of some kind but written in Greek. Either Hunnic, Bulgar or Avar, no one has been able to decipher it. Maybe some Turks here can help me!
The back of the bowl:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2djuts9.jpg
The front:
http://i58.tinypic.com/10hq90z.jpg
Original text:
† BOYHΛA • ZOAΠAN • TEΣH • ΔYΓΕTOIΓH • BOYTAOYΛ • ZΩAΠAN • TAΓPOΓH • HTZIΓH • TAIΣH
English sounds:
† bouēla • zoapan • tesē • dugetoigē • boutaoul • zōapan • tagrogē • ētzigē • taisē
My translation using modern Turkish:
bouēla zoapan tas takat boutaoul zōapan takmak eza tas
English translation:
Buyla Zupan bowl power Butaul zupan wear cavalry bowl
One thing to note, the -igē -ogē at the end of the words seem to be non-Turkic but instead some proto-Slavic addition. I ignore them.
Buyla
See also: Boyar
It is generally agreed that the first word is the Turkic title buyla or boyla (also spelled boila[48]) which is attested on several Old Turkic and Danube Bulgar inscriptions[49][50] and also mentioned by some 9th and 10th centuries Byzantine authors.[49][51] Some scholars proposed that Buyla should be read as a personal name in this text.[2][49]
Butaul
Butaul is usually read as a personal name.[2][52][53] It may be interpreted as "son of Buta" with the final -ul being a development of the Turkic oğul = "son".[52][54] This etymology was challenged based on the observation that according to the predominant model of construction of Turkic patronymics, the possessive forms oğlu or oğli are expected.[52][55] Based on the names attested on Old Turkic inscriptions, Erdal posited the reading But Aul.[52]
Zoapan
See also: Župan
In 1900, Karl Brugmann derived the Common Slavic *županъ from župa "district, small administrative region",[56] an etymology that was accepted by many linguists.[57] However, others suggested the opposite evolution: župa as a back formation from župan, a title brought from Central Asia to Eastern Europe by Avars and Bulgars.[58][57][52] One hypothesis assumes an Iranian origin, from the etymon *fsu-pāna- that evolved to šubān in Parthian and šupān and šubān in Persian; all these words meaning "shepherd".[57][59] The 11th century scholar Mahmud al-Kashgari recorded the Middle Turkic word čupan denoting a minor official, which was considered evidence for a borrowing from Iranian to Turkic languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyla_inscription
Help me decode this language. Found in:
http://i61.tinypic.com/efjn2d.png
The language is Turkic of some kind but written in Greek. Either Hunnic, Bulgar or Avar, no one has been able to decipher it. Maybe some Turks here can help me!
The back of the bowl:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2djuts9.jpg
The front:
http://i58.tinypic.com/10hq90z.jpg
Original text:
† BOYHΛA • ZOAΠAN • TEΣH • ΔYΓΕTOIΓH • BOYTAOYΛ • ZΩAΠAN • TAΓPOΓH • HTZIΓH • TAIΣH
English sounds:
† bouēla • zoapan • tesē • dugetoigē • boutaoul • zōapan • tagrogē • ētzigē • taisē
My translation using modern Turkish:
bouēla zoapan tas takat boutaoul zōapan takmak eza tas
English translation:
Buyla Zupan bowl power Butaul zupan wear cavalry bowl
One thing to note, the -igē -ogē at the end of the words seem to be non-Turkic but instead some proto-Slavic addition. I ignore them.
Buyla
See also: Boyar
It is generally agreed that the first word is the Turkic title buyla or boyla (also spelled boila[48]) which is attested on several Old Turkic and Danube Bulgar inscriptions[49][50] and also mentioned by some 9th and 10th centuries Byzantine authors.[49][51] Some scholars proposed that Buyla should be read as a personal name in this text.[2][49]
Butaul
Butaul is usually read as a personal name.[2][52][53] It may be interpreted as "son of Buta" with the final -ul being a development of the Turkic oğul = "son".[52][54] This etymology was challenged based on the observation that according to the predominant model of construction of Turkic patronymics, the possessive forms oğlu or oğli are expected.[52][55] Based on the names attested on Old Turkic inscriptions, Erdal posited the reading But Aul.[52]
Zoapan
See also: Župan
In 1900, Karl Brugmann derived the Common Slavic *županъ from župa "district, small administrative region",[56] an etymology that was accepted by many linguists.[57] However, others suggested the opposite evolution: župa as a back formation from župan, a title brought from Central Asia to Eastern Europe by Avars and Bulgars.[58][57][52] One hypothesis assumes an Iranian origin, from the etymon *fsu-pāna- that evolved to šubān in Parthian and šupān and šubān in Persian; all these words meaning "shepherd".[57][59] The 11th century scholar Mahmud al-Kashgari recorded the Middle Turkic word čupan denoting a minor official, which was considered evidence for a borrowing from Iranian to Turkic languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyla_inscription