Luxury Revealed As Yanukovych Flees Palace

[Kazimiera]

Luxury Revealed As Yanukovych Flees Palace

Shock, disgust and anger were just some of the emotions filling Ukrainians as they took in their deposed president's grand estate.

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A giant horse is one of the more unusual features of the compound

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People peer through the windows at the opulence inside

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Thousands took the opportunity to see the president's luxurious estate

A sign hanging outside the entrance read: "People, do not destroy this evidence of thieving arrogance."

Thousands wandered around in amazement as they took in the trappings of Viktor Yanukovych’s breathtaking luxury presidential palace, now under the control of anti-government activists after he fled on Saturday.

A private golf course, a zoo, a floating banquet hall resembling an Elizabethan galleon, a helicopter pad, ponds, statues and a greenhouse are just some of the features of the 345-acre compound.

Rare pheasants imported from as far as Mongolia and Sumatra were discovered, Australian and African ostriches roamed the grounds, and peacocks could be seen strutting about.

Half the size of Monaco, the vast country estate is only an hour's drive from the capital Kiev, but for those wandering around its waterways and summer houses it felt like another world in a country where the average wage is less than £300 a month.


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A visitor samples the golf course

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A man behind a bar at the president's mansion

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What Ukrainians found shocked and angered them

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Ostriches were found in the vast compound

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The floating banquet hall which resembles an Elizabethan galleon

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A personalised golf bag bearing the name of the president

Retired veteran Natalia Rudenko said: "I am in shock. In a country with so much poverty how can one person have so much - he has to be mentally sick.

"The world needs to see this and bring him to justice."

Many posed for photos, keen for something to remember a defining moment in their nation's history.

Some came from Independence Square, the focal point of the protests that forced Mr Yanukovych to flee.


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A woman takes a photo of one of the many statues within the grounds

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Families turned up to look around

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Another protester takes a moment to snap a memento of the visit

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The estate is half the size of Monaco

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Mr Yanukovych fled to the east of Ukraine on Saturday

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Protesters stood guard to ensure there was no looting

Bogdan Panchyshin, a hardware store owner still wearing a bullet-proof vest, said: "It makes it feel even more worth it. If only the hundred people who died could see it, I think they'd say the same."

As for what should happen to the mansion and its sprawling grounds, some Ukrainians suggested it should become an orphanage.

Others say it should be turned into something for the protesters who have given up their lives to ensure that the man who once professed to be on the side of Ukraine's poor is certain to never return there.


Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1215842/luxury-revealed-as-yanukovych-flees-palace

[RussiaPrussia]

at least unlike kltschko he stays with his wealth in ukraine and doesnt life in a foreign country
http://beer-fun.ru/wp-content/uploads/3g06rLjFm00.jpg

[rhiannon]

Typical and not surprising in the least, sad to say.:(
Would like to know more about what's been going on there.

[Proctor]

at least unlike kltschko he stays with his wealth in ukraine and doesnt life in a foreign country
http://beer-fun.ru/wp-content/uploads/3g06rLjFm00.jpg

At least Klitschko actually EARNED his wealth.

[Trun]

at least unlike kltschko he stays with his wealth in ukraine

Which is on the expense of the Ukrainian people. I hope the old communist rat is caught and punished.

[RussiaPrussia]

At least Klitschko actually EARNED his wealth.

not really before they became boxers they were pimps

[Acquisitor]

Found some pictures on a site of a blogger.

overall he has pretty bad taste imo.

Curious how Ukrainian president lived in Kiev ? then look below ;)

The house itself:

http://varlamov.me/2014/mechzigorie/IMG_7946.jpg
http://varlamov.me/2014/mechzigorie/IMG_7950.jpg

a part of the estate, it appears to be rather large.

http://varlamov.me/2014/mechzigorie/IMG_7961.jpg

http://varlamov.me/2014/mechzigorie/image-22-02-14-01-56-2.jpg

His yacht or ship not sure how to call this huge thing:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/383676/383676_original.jpg

Private collection of cars:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/379326/379326_original.jpg

He must have been in a hurry since he left gold bars behind:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/378837/378837_original.jpg

wtf ?

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/379619/379619_original.jpg

A private zoo:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/380559/380559_original.jpg
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/381593/381593_original.jpg
http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/02/22/20/20140222200422009/preview_c3696b3fb41f165ddbdc06c51f969407.jpg

Inside of the house:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/382116/382116_original.jpg

His toilet:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/382312/382312_original.jpg

He was a golfer:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/382637/382637_original.jpg

A foto of the estate from above:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/383367/383367_original.jpg

More of his collection of cars:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/383853/383853_original.jpg

lol ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhFT-ElCcAEf59_.jpg

A private fuel station

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/384408/384408_original.jpg

[Acquisitor]

More cars:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/386708/386708_900.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/390804/390804_original.jpg

Boats:

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/389176/389176_original.jpg

looks like titanic lol

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/391465/391465_original.jpg

Seriously!
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/391749/391749_original.jpg

here is where his highness washed himself, lol @ tv

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/392029/392029_original.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zyalt/10761149/392358/392358_original.jpg

no idea why he would have this but ..
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/988398_744659542212837_1915111337_n.jpg

his bed

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1782076_744656865546438_1586414713_n.jpg

cinema

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1898129_744659578879500_1952118023_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1618545_744659685546156_1078573258_n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhJxBgyCQAABqoH.jpg:large

[Leo Iscariot]

Csar Viktor was living it up.

[Yaroslav]

You missed posting his naked portrait.

[Acquisitor]

You missed posting his naked portrait.

eeeeeu :\

[curupira]

Unbelievable. Even a private fuel station!

[Unome]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/2/22/291247/default/v2/rtx19bqv-1-762x428.jpg

Very iconic photograph

[Hercus Monte]

and here's his general prosecutors(?) place.

he stole quit a few artefacts from museums, medieval chantry and prayer books, paintings, icons etc.

http://4ubuk.blogspot.nl/2014/02/blog-post_23.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MsgGr9Tvjdg/UwonLjMaD5I/AAAAAAAAG9U/pCevN-AHvvk/s1600/DSC_7763.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-948dIqqid8U/UwonMuIh1CI/AAAAAAAAG9c/9AH7Q8-ZFns/s1600/DSC_7764.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jiN_4bE4-Z4/UwopfIoJ7aI/AAAAAAAAHSM/OK13RMZlzSU/s1600/DSC_7967.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J48l0VkeBek/UwoqIr7yj9I/AAAAAAAAHX8/AdW9YGzusWU/s1600/DSC_8017.JPG

[Acquisitor]

I think having taste is a general problem in Ukraine, when I visited that country for work our client booked "a very modern hotel" for us.

here it is:

"the pearl of Dnepr"

http://www.bookit.com.ua/img/objects/05130b8226.jpg

you can already tell a lot about this place by the first picture I think.

http://www.perlyna.net/img/pics/img49.jpg

http://www.perlyna.net/img/pics/img45.jpg


they are also very proud about famous people who stayed there ;)

http://www.perlyna.net/kiev/guest.html

[Hercus Monte]

I think having taste is a general problem in Ukraine, when I visited that country for work our client booked "a very modern hotel" for us.
they are also very proud about famous people who stayed there ;)

http://www.perlyna.net/kiev/guest.html
Pugacheva and kirkorov, of course :rolleyes:


I think having taste is a general problem in Ukraine, when I visited that country for work our client booked "a very modern hotel" for us.
l (http://www.perlyna.net/kiev/guest.html)
I thought it's just the interior design, looks like the exterior design is also a problem in Ukraine.
they need more gays.

[Acquisitor]

Pugacheva and kirkorov, of course :rolleyes:


I thought it's just the interior design, looks like the exterior design is also a problem in Ukraine.
they need more gays.

I think a couple of molotov cocktails might improve the "Pearl of Dnerp" ;)

:thumb001:

[Zmey Gorynych]

http://www.perlyna.net/img/pics/img45.jpg
I get a commie vibe from this picture. It looks like one of those SU diners.

[Hercus Monte]

I think a couple of molotovs cocktails might improve the "Pearl of Dnerp" ;)

:thumb001:
well it certainly wouldn't make it worse... :rolleyes:

[Acquisitor]

I get a commie vibe from this picture. It looks like one of those SU diners.

Looks like some sanatorij v krimu :D

[Hweinlant]

lol ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhFT-ElCcAEf59_.jpg


You know you have expensive taste when the canned black caviar just doesn't do it for you.

[Hercus Monte]

You know you have expensive taste when the canned black caviar just doesn't do it for you.
yet, spray painted ''gold'' does...

[Hercus Monte]

I still can't get over this picture.... it's just in such poor taste. really, really poor, bad, horrible taste. and it's not even well Photoshoped.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/16655_669461963096045_1288493199_n.jpg

wow,
such posh
many slava
so honour
much egomania

[Acquisitor]

I still can't get over this picture.... it's just in such poor taste. really, really poor, bad, horrible taste. and it's not even well Photoshoped.

wow,
such posh
many slava
so honour
much egomania

this reminds me of Russia in the 90's. Bryncalov and his gold toilet. solid gold, not plated. Paintings of him on the ceiling of his house etc. so pathetic

I'd argue that roma gypsies in Romania have a better taste

https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B0%D0%B B%D0%BE%D0%B2+%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z04LU8CJEafiywOs1YHQBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDzRklilR0&noredirect=1

[Hercus Monte]

this reminds me of Russia in the 90's. Bryncalov and his gold toilet. solid gold, not plated. Paintings of him on the ceiling of his house etc. so pathetic

I'd argue that roma gypsies in Romania have a better taste

https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B0%D0%B B%D0%BE%D0%B2+%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Z04LU8CJEafiywOs1YHQBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ

at least Bryncalov stuck to the crazy and didn't change the style of the interior in every room. it's in incredibly poor taste but at least it's not mismatched.


and of course roma have better taste, they have their own style.

[RussiaPrussia]

...

yeah yeah, isnt he a good example of capitalism we all should embrace and hope we can end with this position one day? (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?115956-Its-good-to-have-3-5-billion-very-poor-people-in-the-world)

acquisators logic


Russian oligarchy = evil
Western oligarchy = good for mankind

[Acquisitor]

yeah yeah, isnt he a good example of capitalism we all should embrace and hope we can end with this position one day? (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?115956-Its-good-to-have-3-5-billion-very-poor-people-in-the-world)

acquisators logic

:rolleyes: :picard2:

if you cant keep up with the conversation, then why join it at all ?

[Unome]

:rolleyes: :picard2:

if you cant keep up with the conversation, then why join it at all ?
RussiaPrussia is still a child and needs to learn socializing & adult conversations.

[lei.talk]

linda leavell described the style of living
by poetess marianne moore and her mother
as "ostentatious frugality"

and that phrase explains why
the government never audits some tax-payers:

there is no sign of wealth
to be seized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_traveler#Three_Flag_Theory).

when this politician was a transport manager,
where did he live?

when he was a governor,
did he live extravagantly?

blatantly flaunting... :tsk:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2uj4lxu.png (https://www.google.com/#q=linda+leavell+holding+on+upside+down)

[Acquisitor]

Lol this is NOT topic related but very funny. They build "european villages" near Moscow and market it as "living in Europe". It usually looks like this:

as you can see its a mixture of different styles from south/mid/north Europe but also from different historical periods ;) looks hilarious imo

http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/02/24/17/20140224174240386/realty_detail_8013ac534070dfda21f1c82f2dc246a0.jpg

and this is also funny, the site http://www.belgia.ru/ leads to a "Belgian village" near Moscow ;)

I bet someone made money building and selling this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Kanes/_577_zps25df90fb.jpg

[Hweinlant]

Seals of local presidential election comissions were found from Party Of Regions office.

http://espreso.tv/image/data/news/2014/02/pechat1.jpg
http://espreso.tv/image/data/news/2014/02/pechat2.jpg
http://espreso.tv/new/2014/02/24/na_zakarpatti_rehionaly_pryvlasnyly_pechatky_dilny chnykh_komisiy_z_prezydentskykh_vyboriv

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
-Joseph Stalin

[Empecinado]

Most of the presidents in the world live in similar palaces...He is the only exception:

http://www.abc.es/Media/201305/22/mujica--644x362.jpg

[Acquisitor]

Oh I'm sorry dear but this is a repost :\

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?116339-inside-of-Yanukovitch-s-house

[Tacitus]

Most of the presidents in the world live in similar palaces...He is the only exception:

http://www.abc.es/Media/201305/22/mujica--644x362.jpg

Shame he's the exception, not the rule.

[silentkiller]

Some ppl would like their rulers to live in a cardboard box (instead of residence) and ride a bike (instead of president car).
Yes, Yanukovich was living it up. No one likes to see a ruler living in palace, meanwhile his people starving. But we must not exaggerate either.

[Hercus Monte]

Most of the presidents in the world live in similar palaces...He is the only exception:

http://www.abc.es/Media/201305/22/mujica--644x362.jpgwhy would anyone want their president to live in unsanitary, 3rd world like conditions? Mecija is an extreme that shouldn't be followed.



Follow our example, our president flies wizzair xD
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/dalia-grybauskaite-Facebook-picture.jpg

[Empecinado]

why would anyone want their president to live in unsanitary, 3rd world like conditions? Mecija is an extreme that shouldn't be followed.



Follow our example, our president flies wizzair xD
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/dalia-grybauskaite-Facebook-picture.jpg

Rulers living in extreme austerity have always been highly respected by the people, it's a positive quality. Of course most of presidents don't do so but the opposite and Yakunovich is not the exception, so I find demagogic to use his mansion against him when the other presidents live in similar luxury.

[Hercus Monte]

Rulers living in extreme austerity have always been highly respected by the people, it's a positive quality. Of course most of presidents don't do so but the opposite and Yakunovich is not the exception, so I find demagogic to use his mansion against him when the other presidents live in similar luxury.
not with stolen tax payer money they don't. presidents usually have a high salary, understandably so. if many of them decide to spend it on a mansion or a villa, it's their choice.
Yanukovich got that place by stealing from the state. that's the difference.

[Smaug]

Disgusting.

[Empecinado]

not with stolen tax payer money they don't. presidents usually have a high salary, understandably so. if many of them decide to spend it on a mansion or a villa, it's their choice.
Yanukovich got that place by stealing from the state. that's the difference.

Where do you think most of the income of the presidents comes from? Bribes, business taking advantage of their political position, gifts, percentages...

[Hercus Monte]

Where do you think most of the income of the presidents comes from? Bribes, business taking advantage of their political position, gifts, percentages...
business donations is not the same thing as stealing from the treasury so much that citizens can even get their pensions or public sector employees their pay checks.

[Virtuous]

Well I guess when they say Ukraine is effectively still a Communist country I was mistaken to take it as an expression, lol.

[Empecinado]

business donations is not the same thing as stealing from the treasury so much that citizens can even get their pensions or public sector employees their pay checks.

All presidents are stealing from treasury to some extent, though most of their income comes from their "private" businesses, bribes, etc. Needless to say that such things happen especially in poor countries where the corruption exists everywhere.

[Hercus Monte]

All presidents are stealing from treasury to some extent,
proof?

though most of their income comes from their "private" businesses, bribes, etc.
empirical evidence, please. not all presidents have businesses. and I doubt all of them take bribes, but that depends on what you consider a bribe.


Needless to say that such things happen especially in poor countries where the corruption exists everywhere.
I'm aware of how corrupt spain, Itally, greece, Ukraine etc. are. but there's no reason to project those presumptions towards all countries and all politically active peoples'.

[glass]

this mansion was not his private property, it was his residence as president of Ukraine.
Same applies for many other leaders, they have no need to steal, it is given to them because of thier status.
Once person loses sit, this person loses palaces, home zoo and all other luxery

[Empecinado]

proof?

empirical evidence, please. not all presidents have businesses. and I doubt all of them take bribes, but that depends on what you consider a bribe.

I'm aware of how corrupt spain, Itally, greece, Ukraine etc. are. but there's no reason to project those presumptions towards all countries and all politically active peoples'.

For example, a big company that wants to get the concession to built, invest, buy lands... and pays the president to get the license for that and avoid the other companies who want to get this license. That's pretty common in most of countries.

Corruption in the high government places exists everywhere, even in the less corrupt countries, and this corruption is the less obvious and difficult to spot as is covered by the same people who are involved in it. But this doesn't means that doesn't exist, just that is by far less obvious than the "street" corruption like a police or a state officer asking for a bribe to common people.

[Hercus Monte]

For example, a big company that wants to get the concession to built, invest, buy lands... and pays the president to get the license for that and avoid the other companies who want to get this license. That's pretty common in most of countries.

Corruption in the high government places exists everywhere, even in the less corrupt countries, and this corruption is the less obvious and difficult to spot as is covered by the same people who are involved in it. But this doesn't means that doesn't exist, just that is by far less obvious than the "street" corruption like a police or a state officer asking for a bribe to common people.

have anything but hypotheticals?

[Äijä]

The amount of kitch in this thread really portrays some Ukrainians and Russians as ignorant peasants, hope not the majority.

[Empecinado]

have anything but hypotheticals?

This is like asking if I have anything on the corruption in the highest government places of Cuba...oficially there's no corruption as they have not been prosecuted by corruption :rolleyes: don't expect the big fishes in any country to be prosecuted for that.

[Acquisitor]

The amount of kitch in this thread really portrays some Ukrainians and Russians as ignorant peasants, hope not the majority.

Ukraine is the main kitch country in Europe imo. You won't believe some of the things you see there.

[Hercus Monte]

The palace of Yuriy Ivaniushchenko, another Party of Regions member.

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1794777_593453394077673_1229176053_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1622649_593453400744339_442755018_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1/1911746_593453404077672_1181880455_n.jpg

[Äijä]

Ukraine is the main kitch country in Europe imo. You won't believe some of the things you see there.

Well it is famous for its peasants.. But the country does look very nice, would not mind owning an a good size estate there.

[Äijä]

What is the background of these people, they all have the same taste.

[Zmey Gorynych]

What is the background of these people, they all have the same taste.
Most likely sons and daughters of kolkhoz people. There's nothing more hilarious than dirt poor people who struck it rich. They feel this need to display their wealth (build the biggest mansion or have the most opulent decoration), you know just to show people who they're dealing with here :)

[Acquisitor]

Most likely sons and daughters of kolkhoz people. There's nothing more hilarious than dirt poor people who struck it rich. They feel this need to display their wealth (build the biggest mansion or have the most opulent decoration), you know just to show people who they're dealing with here :)

I know many people like that. One of them is from Moldova and he is making thousands a week here. Ok he is not very rich but still, he has never had that kind of money in his life but now he does. How did he change ? first he bought a huge gold chain which he wears on the outside of his ..sport pants, coat and snickers. So I when see him in the city he is usually wearing a sport suit and there is always this huge heavy chain to emphasize his importance and wealth, it looks quite hilarious. Secondly his manners have changed somewhat. While he is still a kolkhoznik, he appears to have added some royalty manners to himself. A funny combination ;)

[Zmey Gorynych]

I know many people like that. One of them is from Moldova and he is making thousands a week here. Ok he is not very rich but still, he has never had that kind of money in his life but now he does. How did he change ? first he bought a huge gold chain which he wears on the outside of his ..sport pants, coat and snickers. So I when see him in the city he is usually wearing a sport suit and there is always this huge heavy chain to emphasize his importance and wealth, it looks quite hilarious. Secondly his manners have changed somewhat. While he is still a kolkhoznik, he appears to have added some royalty manners to himself. A funny combination ;)
These type of people are typical for the ex-soviet space. It ususally takes a couple of generations for these overnight millionares to float away from the "derevnya" mentality and become truly upper class.

[Äijä]

Most likely sons and daughters of kolkhoz people. There's nothing more hilarious than dirt poor people who struck it rich. They feel this need to display their wealth (build the biggest mansion or have the most opulent decoration), you know just to show people who they're dealing with here :)

But have to respect they did that, they cant be total idiots? Or maybe they where the ass kissing model commies running the kolkhoz? Then sold all the tractors when it all fell. :D

[Äijä]

These type of people are typical for the ex-soviet space. It ususally takes a couple of generations for these overnight millionares to float away from the "derevnya" mentality and become truly upper class.

Only happens if they send the kids to good schools, like they most likely do.
Even then the corrupt ways easily follow, Kim Jong Il was educated in Switzerland, same place RussiaPrussia is from. :)

[Acquisitor]

Only happens if they send the kids to good schools, like they most likely do.
Even then the corrupt ways easily follow, Kim Jong Il was educated in Switzerland, same place RussiaPrussia is from. :)

but he is from Asia so he has a higher IQ!

[Sarmatian]

But have to respect they did that, they cant be total idiots? Or maybe they where the ass kissing model commies running the kolkhoz? Then sold all the tractors when it all fell. :D

Funny you said it... it's often not an idiot but a blunt dumbfuck with extremely primitive brains. All they have is the ability to see an opportunity and a bit of luck. A couple examples:

In 2000 I've meet a guy who had about 10 mil USD. He made it in 1990's. While working as a bouncer in a pub he had some extra money to spend. Some of his obviously smarter mates suggested him to buy a machine for bottling sunflower oil. It was a very easy business: buy large quantities of oil from producers, bottle it and sell to shops at much higher prices. He hired a couple of engineers to run the thing and a driver with truck for deliveries, that's it. No accounting, no taxes. A few months later he bought another machine, than one more later and was running like that for a little over a year. And all this time he kept working as a bouncer. When tax department started to ask questions he moved all the money to offshore company (again by simply hiring a much smarter fellows) and then abandoned all his productions and ran away. Ended up with a few million bucks in Florida living in a luxurious villa with Bruce Willis's villa down the road. Still as far as his personality goes he was one of the dumbest people I've met.

Another example is still in Russia. A guy was working as a truck driver in Siberian gold mines, got some good money out of it. Retired and moved to south of Russia permanently. There he hired about 10 smart guys with degree in economics and asked each of them to provide an investment plan within a months or two. Then out of 10 plans he had chosen one that he liked most and invested some of his money in it. Once he started getting returns within a few months he asked his hired brains to produce more plans and kept going on with it until he got insanely rich. But his mentality is still the same to this day - fucking dumb truck driver from Siberian mines.

In fact I think it's their dumbness is the main reason of their success. Where a smart fella will see all the risks and have a lot of doubts these primitives are simply to stupid to fully realize what's going on and just pushing forward blindly. Many will fail but eventually some got lucky and, given the fact of business vacuum after fall of USSR, end up having significant success. Unfortunately today most of people tend to associate wealth with brains and follow those with big money regardless of their personal qualities.

[Sarmatian]

Lol this is NOT topic related but very funny. They build "european villages" near Moscow and market it as "living in Europe". It usually looks like this:

as you can see its a mixture of different styles from south/mid/north Europe but also from different historical periods ;) looks hilarious imo

http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/02/24/17/20140224174240386/realty_detail_8013ac534070dfda21f1c82f2dc246a0.jpg

and this is also funny, the site http://www.belgia.ru/ leads to a "Belgian village" near Moscow ;)

I bet someone made money building and selling this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Kanes/_577_zps25df90fb.jpg

Cmon mate, they working hard to bring Russia's conditions to European standards. Don't you understand? They are modernizing the country :rolleyes:

[Windischer]

now thats one hell of a kitch. these just-got-rich people are known to lack any taste or sense of aesthetics after all.

[Hercus Monte]

Cmon mate, they working hard to bring Russia's conditions to European standards. Don't you understand? They are modernizing the country :rolleyes:
16th-18th century architecture is not contemporary euro standard.
it seems like a waste.

why not just build something like this?

http://gethouse.lt.grikis.serveriai.lt/sites/default/files/styles/full_img/public/melodija_eco_future_2_namo_projektas.jpg

it looks nice and is cost efficient.

[RussiaPrussia]

http://p5.focus.de/img/incoming/origs3640511/4941311174-w479-h354-o-q75-p5/image02-Hirosima-Nagasakieva.jpg
http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3640512/9636787703-w474-h354-o-q75-p5/image03-Hirosima-Nagasakieva.jpg
http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3640508/3156561232-w531-h354-o-q75-p5/Par7803808.jpg

yankovich has good taste, i really feel sorry for him how these animals eat his wealth.

Would you bastards also like it if some one comes into your house showing your property to the rest of the world? like coins and post stamps or what ever you collect or do in your private life?

I dont want to know what western polticians collect in their free time, child porn (http://www.thelocal.de/20140224/sebastian-edathy-promises-to-break-silence-spd-starts-proceedings-against-him)?

[Acquisitor]

16th-18th century architecture is not contemporary euro standard.
it seems like a waste.

why not just build something like this?

http://gethouse.lt.grikis.serveriai.lt/sites/default/files/styles/full_img/public/melodija_eco_future_2_namo_projektas.jpg

it looks nice and is cost efficient.

because such a house doesn't scream "I HAVE MONEY DONT YOU SEE PEOPLE I HAvE MONEY", neither does minimalism style inside the house.

[glass]

because such a house doesn't scream "I HAVE MONEY DONT YOU SEE PEOPLE I HAvE MONEY", neither does minimalism style inside the house.
this type of house does not suit Russia anyway, thin walls, windows too large, unless somebody wants freeze to death during -20-25 winter weeks :rolleyes:

[Acquisitor]

this type of house does not suit Russia anyway, thin walls, windows too large, unless somebody wants freeze to death during -20-25 winter weeks :rolleyes:

lies :)

walls do not need to be thin, windows can have double glass 10mm thick each, its all possible :)

[Hercus Monte]

this type of house does not suit Russia anyway, thin walls, windows too large, unless somebody wants freeze to death during -20-25 winter weeks :rolleyes:
it's a design from our region, designed for our region. :rolleyes:
and it's an eco design, heating is the most important thing about them.

[glass]

lies :)

walls do not need to be thin, windows can have double glass 10mm thick each, its all possible :)
what do you mean do not need to be thin? Walls have to be thiсk because of climat in central Russia,
so i am exactly telling this walls would not fit this
http://www.arbolit.org/?an=wall_thickness

[Acquisitor]

what do you mean do not need to be thin? Walls have to be thiсk because of climat in central Russia,
so i am exactly telling this walls would not fit this
http://www.arbolit.org/?an=wall_thickness

do not need to be thin = are not necessarily thin = can be thick according to the climate

a Belgian friend of mine was involved in delivery of bricks for this project:

http://www.parkrublevo.ru/

as you can see the windows are rather big:
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/06.jpg
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/03.jpg

this is very Belgian/European style btw. they bought 6m bricks if I'm not mistaken.

[Hercus Monte]

do not need to be thin = are not necessarily thin = can be thick according to the climate

a Belgian friend of mine was involved in delivery of bricks for this project:

http://www.parkrublevo.ru/

as you can see the windows are rather big:
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/06.jpg
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/03.jpg

this is very Belgian/European style btw. they bought 6m bricks if I'm not mistaken.
the design wouldn't fit into the baltics, not enough wood.( I'm assuming the same is true of the scandos)

[Sarmatian]

it's a design from our region, designed for our region. :rolleyes:
and it's an eco design, heating is the most important thing about them.

Is that why fireplace have one of the walls on the outside of the house? :picard1:

That element seems like typical British design from colonial era. Pretty retarded if you ask me.

[Acquisitor]

the design wouldn't fit into the baltics, not enough wood.( I'm assuming the same is true of the scandos)

wood is not a popular material here at all. There is a reason why this russki company decided to buy Belgian bricks. There is a cult of bricks here, the less heat conductivity the better, also the more durable the better. The brick culture is quite insane here. While wood is not a popular material at all, no idea why. Maybe because we have a very wet climate and its not good for the wood or so ?

[glass]

do not need to be thin = are not necessarily thin = can be thick according to the climate

house design takes wall thickness into consideration, design we are discussing supposed to have 20-30cm walls and very large windows.

belgian house looks ok, that ecological house does not, for russian conditions

[Acquisitor]

house design takes wall thickness into consideration, design we are discussing supposed to have 20-30cm walls and very large windows.

belgian house looks ok, that ecological house does not, for russian conditions

those pictures are not of a Belgian house, but of russian houses :) check the link

[glass]

those pictures are not of a Belgian house, but of russian houses :) check the link

this is very Belgian/European style btw. they bought 6m bricks if I'm not mistaken.

[Acquisitor]

style yes, bricks yes, windows = no idea, but its built by a russian company, that's what I meant

[Äijä]

do not need to be thin = are not necessarily thin = can be thick according to the climate

a Belgian friend of mine was involved in delivery of bricks for this project:

http://www.parkrublevo.ru/

as you can see the windows are rather big:
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/06.jpg
http://www.parkrublevo.ru/sites/default/files/images/header/03.jpg

this is very Belgian/European style btw. they bought 6m bricks if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.vastavalo.fi/albums/userpics/10119/normal_kaksfooninkinen1.jpg

Finns used to compete with windows, many of these are 18-19th century, modern ones are too insulated, dont think many will reach that age.

[Hercus Monte]

house design takes wall thickness into consideration, design we are discussing supposed to have 20-30cm walls and very large windows.

belgian house looks ok, that ecological house does not, for russian conditions
it's build for the baltic states. we live in the same climate :rolleyes:

[Acquisitor]

it's build for the baltic states. we live in the same climate :rolleyes:

more pics, and read the comments :))) hilarious comments :D

its about that roman emperor hero of yours ;)

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1010198.html

[Hercus Monte]

more pics, and read the comments :))) hilarious comments :D

its about that roman emperor hero of yours ;)

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1010198.html
Когда-нибудь такие музеи откроются и в России.

Doubt it. maybe in the next century.

что б я так жил!
:picard1:

Вы еще не видели хоромы Блумберга и Сороса.У них таких сотни наверное.
xD I doubt it. they seem like they have better taste.

пропагандистская машина майдана не должна простаивать.
sigh...

[glass]

seriously leave them alone, their houses/residences their rules...:rolleyes:

[Acquisitor]

seriously leave them alone, their houses/residences their rules...:rolleyes:

true, but we are simply being curious :)

[glass]

true, but we are simply being curious :)
sure but this stuff about good and bad tastes reminds me this
http://s28.postimg.org/sanlxdpod/BVYu_PECCEAEs12_Q.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

i wonder how much their houses cost

[Acquisitor]

we are euro snobs you see, let us fit the stereotype and behave like one's :)

besides laughing something out is a common trait among non liberals as well so..

[Hweinlant]

I still can't get over this picture.... it's just in such poor taste. really, really poor, bad, horrible taste. and it's not even well Photoshoped.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/16655_669461963096045_1288493199_n.jpg


He also wanted to be Napoleon!

http://espreso.tv/image/data/news/2014/02/1912122_626042084110296_906292639_o.jpg

That dude sure has some complexes.

[glass]

He also wanted to be Napoleon!

another sign of very poor knowledge of Russia:picard1:

Napoleon would not dress his soldiers in russian uniform
This dude wanted to be Kutuzov
here original
http://s13.postimg.org/3xegoganb/kut2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Hweinlant]

another sign of very poor knowledge of Russia:picard1:


And I thank god for that!



Napoleon would not dress his soldiers in russian uniform
This dude wanted to be Kutuzov
here original
http://s13.postimg.org/3xegoganb/kut2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


Thanks for the correction. I thought those uniforms looked Napoleon-ish.

[glass]

In a Beijing suburb, an unorthodox architectural tribute
here (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2013/1225/In-a-Beijing-suburb-an-unorthodox-architectural-tribute)
:laugh::laugh:

[Acquisitor]

I find this Turkish hotel funnier :) Also, Belgian tourists who go to it sometimes complain that there are many russians there ;)

http://www.aytcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rent_a_car_antalya_wow_kremlin_palace_otel_lara.jp g

[Hercus Monte]

In a Beijing suburb, an unorthodox architectural tribute
here (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2013/1225/In-a-Beijing-suburb-an-unorthodox-architectural-tribute)
:laugh::laugh:
China's been a little crazy lately.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/09/20/223040143/visit-paris-and-venice-in-the-same-afternoon-in-china

but props to the Russians, if the Chinese are envious of Russian cultural riches you should be flattered.

[Acquisitor]

China's been a little crazy lately.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/09/20/223040143/visit-paris-and-venice-in-the-same-afternoon-in-china

but props to the Russians, if the Chinese are envious of Russian cultural riches you should be flattered.

is there anything this so called "superpower" hasn't copied yet ?

simply pathetic imo

[Hercus Monte]

is there anything this so called "superpower" hasn't copied yet ?

simply pathetic imoit just looks like a big Inferiority complex. which is odd considering china is one of the richest places in the world, culturally speaking.

[RussiaPrussia]

is there anything this so called "superpower" hasn't copied yet ?

simply pathetic imo

the only one copying is the US, why else you think they have these massive spy servers`? In comparison to chinese they get copied technology faster on the market before the original is even released because of that.

[Acquisitor]

the only one copying is the US, why else you think they have these massive spy servers`? In comparison to chinese they get copied technology faster on the market before the original is even released because of that.

oh yes :)

would you be so kind to give relevant examples of such technology ? maybe google was copied from baidu or so ?

and lets say this "sceo" car was designed and planned before the release of bmw x5 right ?

http://www.carnewschina.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bmw-x5-shuanghuan-sceo-china-1-458x344.jpg

and finally, that Chinese mockup of Paris was conceived before Paris was built I guess.