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Argang
02-24-2014, 07:28 AM
Behar et al.
pre-print

This particular subject is no doubt one of the evergreens in the field of genetic studies.

http://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=humbiol_preprints


The origin and history of the Ashkenazi Jewish population have long been of great interest, and advances in high-throughput genetic analysis have recently provided a new approach for investigating these topics. We and others have argued on the basis of genome-wide data that the Ashkenazi Jewish population derives its ancestry from a combination of sources tracing to both Europe and the Middle East. It has been claimed, however, through a reanalysis of some of our data, that a large part of the ancestry of the Ashkenazi population originates with the Khazars, a Turkic-speaking group that lived to the north of the Caucasus region ~1,000 years ago. Because the Khazar population has left no obvious modern descendants that could enable a clear test for a contribution to Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, the Khazar hypothesis has been difficult to examine using genetics. Furthermore, because only limited genetic data have been available from the Caucasus region, and because these data have been concentrated in populations that are genetically close to populations from the Middle East, the attribution of any signal of Ashkenazi-Caucasus genetic similarity to Khazar ancestry rather than shared ancestral Middle Eastern ancestry has been problematic. Here, through integration of genotypes on newly collected samples with data from several of our past studies, we have assembled the largest data set available to date for assessment of Ashkenazi Jewish genetic origins. This data set contains genome-wide single-nucleotide polymorphisms in 1,774 samples from 106 Jewish and non- Jewish populations that span the possible regions of potential Ashkenazi ancestry: Europe, the Middle East, and the region historically associated with the Khazar Khaganate. The data set includes 261 samples from 15 populations from the Caucasus region and the region directly to its north, samples that have not previously been included alongside Ashkenazi Jewish samples in genomic studies. Employing a variety of standard techniques for the analysis of populationgenetic structure, we find that Ashkenazi Jews share the greatest genetic ancestry with other Jewish populations, and among non-Jewish populations, with groups from Europe and the Middle East. No particular similarity of Ashkenazi Jews with populations from the Caucasus is evident, particularly with the populations that most closely represent the Khazar region. Thus, analysis of Ashkenazi Jews together with a large sample from the region of the Khazar Khaganate corroborates the earlier results that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry primarily from populations of the Middle East and Europe, that they possess considerable shared ancestry with other Jewish populations, and that there is no indication of a significant genetic contribution either from within or from north of the Caucasus region.

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Hanibalas Lekteris
02-24-2014, 10:07 AM
Pretty much confirms the trend here, not exactly a surprise to say the least.

The paper is very interesting, I'm still reading it atm.

Genn
02-24-2014, 11:37 AM
These were posted recently:

https://twitter.com/EranElhaik/status/434839000268816385
http://www.homolog.us/blogs/blog/2014/01/23/dan-graurs-latest-bombshell-implications-jewish-genetics/

I wonder if/when Elhaik will respond in full. It's like a soap opera...

Hanibalas Lekteris
02-24-2014, 11:51 AM
Truth be told, either Elhaik's the best troll in the world of population genetics or he just doesn't understand sh*t about population genetics.
For some odd reason, I vouch for the first possibility.

Genn
02-24-2014, 01:23 PM
Well, it appears that he actually heads the "Khazar DNA Project" and this seems to be the general crux of his argument:


While the paper by Behar et al. allegedly addresses my findings more directly, I cannot comment on it at this point as certain future events need to unfold before I can issue a response. However, as this paper was not peer-reviewed, I have little doubt that most of the readers here can easily find a handful of errors, self-contradictions, biases, and whatnot.


https://www.facebook.com/KhazarDnaProject

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Guess we'll have to wait for these "certain future events" to develop.

Hanibalas Lekteris
02-24-2014, 01:50 PM
3rd party tools suffice to see through his nonsensical theories, just saying.