Classify these relatively dark members of the Andalusian Parliament

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes I know that most Andalusians look the same as other Spaniards, but they do have a higher percentage of exotic individuals than are found elsewhere in Spain, such as the following:

Manuel Baena Cobos
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg

Enrique Javier Benitez Palma
http://fotos00.laopiniondemalaga.es/2008/09/14/318x200/2008-09-21_IMG_2008-09-14_22:18:46_d013ma01.jpg

Jose Cara Gonzalez
http://www.telealmerianoticias.es/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Jos%C3%A9-Cara-Gonz%C3%A1lez.jpg

Manuel Jimenez Barrios
http://images.eldiario.es/andalucia/Jimenez-Barrios-Gobierno-Alcaldia-Chiclana_EDIIMA20130909_0490_15.jpg

Jose Antonio Nieto Ballesteros
http://agendaempresa.com/wp-content/uploads/Jos%C3%A9-Antonio-Nieto-Ballesteros.jpg

Rafaela Obrero Ariza
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GniW7he3T3w/maxresdefault.jpg

Alfonso Rodriguez Gomez de Celis
http://nurainmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/alfonso_gomez_decelis.jpg

Jose Luis Sanchez Teruel (he's light, but his features look kind of Armenoid)
http://www.psoealmeria.com/images/nuestros-representantes/jose-luis-sanchez-teruel.jpg

[The King, I am]

Some look Indian
some Turkish
some white :/

[Tooting Carmen]

Some look Indian
some Turkish
some white :/

Which ones are which?

[Kalimtari]

Caramba, Jose Antonio Nieto Ballesteros looks totally Turkish and Alfonso Rodriguez Gomez de Celis looks Gitano or something Indid

http://www.troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-cat-in-the-world/hm-interesting-tell-me-more.jpg

[Tropico]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Ianus]

Someacile Med Berid mix, perhaps some South Med influences

[GrebluBro]

All look clear-cut Spaniard/Euro to me..


only exception is
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg

[Sikeliot]

1. South Med-CM, looks North African
2. Med-Alpine
3. Med-Berid
4. East Med
5. Berid
6. South Med
7. Med-Baskid
8. Nordo-Med

[Tooting Carmen]

I forgot to ask in the title: where would they pass?

[Sikeliot]

I forgot to ask in the title: where would they pass?

Iberia and North Africa. One or two could pass in Turkey though.

[Tooting Carmen]

Iberia and North Africa. One or two could pass in Turkey though.

Which ones look Turkish?

[Sikeliot]

Which ones look Turkish?

2nd and 4th could pass.

[The King, I am]

This is probably where the Arab and Negro influence affected them the most :/

[mikeyup]

these are all of them? or just the more exotic ones?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Mostly Berid-Meds. 1, 2 and 3 Berid-Med with Alpine influence. the last looks Jew.

[Tooting Carmen]

these are all of them? or just the more exotic ones?

As the title of the thread implies, just the more exotic ones.:picard1:

[mikeyup]

As the title of the thread implies, just the more exotic ones.:picard1:

no need to be frustrated

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

This is probably where the Arab and Negro influence affected them the most :/

This are just ridiculous claims. the negro even more. :bored:

[The King, I am]

This are just ridiculous claims. the negro even more. :bored:

How:confused:

[Smeagol]

This are just ridiculous claims. the negro even more. :bored:

It's funny a North African is talking about negro influence than others. Negroid, and Arabid influences are pretty much nonexistent in Spain.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

How:confused:

Because it's just that, Nonsense my friend.

[The King, I am]

Because it's just that, Nonsense my friend.

URGH wtv

[Lábaru]

Most of them are quite normal, the problem is that most of you have no fucking idea of classifying a face.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

URGH wtv

What? I don't understand short word writing, what does this words mean? And Don't take it personal, But it is the truth. It's Bullcrap.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of them are quite normal for Europe's southern periphery.

Fixed.

[Lábaru]

Fixed.

You look more exotic that most of them or in the same range.

[Lábaru]

For example this man is perfectly normal, but most of you think he fits in India or North Africa because you all are totally inept, and of course more exotic than him in real life.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

You look more exotic that most of them or in the same range.

Yes, there is Many of the classifiers who give classfy look more exotic or weird , not by skin range but by look than most of them.

[Sikeliot]

For example this man is perfectly normal

Then I guess North African looks in Spain are more common than I thought, if that is "normal".

[Tooting Carmen]

You look more exotic that most of them or in the same range.

Here is my classification thread...http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?98882-Classify-me-and-my-parents&highlight=classify+parents

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Here is my classification thread...http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?98882-Classify-me-and-my-parents&highlight=classify+parents

I had give my classify comment there. it's in last page

[Tooting Carmen]

I had give my classify comment there. it's in last page

I was aiming it at Labaru, in response to his claim that I look more exotic than the people in the OP.

[Lábaru]

Yes, there is Many of the classifiers who give classfy look more exotic or weird , not by skin range but by look than most of them.

These people just shows ignorance, I miss when in the forum were people who knew how make a correct classification, not the group of special ignorants that we have now. Here I am seeing real niggers who are calling to this man "exotic".
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-frc1/262137_166607710072465_5084756_n.jpg

most of the people of this thread are more exotic than him with twenty years old, with sixty years old they will look even more exotic.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I was aiming it at Labaru, in response to his claim that I look more exotic than the people in the OP.

I think they look don't really look exotic, they look like many other South-West Europeans, their look is nothing out the ordinary. your just another different type I think. like Med, Alpine, Dinaric, Nordic etc.

[Sikeliot]

There are even some southern Spaniards who can pass in the East Med region, but they're not that common.

[Tooting Carmen]

These people just shows ignorance, I miss when in the forum were people who knew how make a correct classification, not the group of special ignorants that we have now. Here I am seeing real niggers who are calling to this man "exotic".
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-frc1/262137_166607710072465_5084756_n.jpg

most of the people of this thread are more exotic than him with twenty years old, with sixty years old they will look even more exotic.

He may be normal for Spain, and a few other places in Southern Europe, but the point is that he would not pass - at least not very easily - in most parts of Europe.

[Sikeliot]

He may be normal for Spain, and a few other places in Southern Europe, but the point is that he would not pass - at least not very easily - in most parts of Europe.

In the last photo above he can pass as Sicilian, or other East Med European.

[Tooting Carmen]

In the last photo above he can pass as Sicilian, or other East Med European.

Yes, I said he could pass in some other parts of Southern Europe as well as Spain itself...

[Smeagol]

For example this man is perfectly normal, but most of you think he fits in India or North Africa because you all are totally inept, and of course more exotic than him in real life.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg

I think this man is West Mediterranoid with South Cromagnid influence. He doesn't look exotic to me, just a bit darker pigmentation than the average. Would not fit in India, or North Africa.

[Damião de Góis]

That man has a much more neutral face than this for example:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00811/SNN2603GL-280_811483a.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

These people just shows ignorance, I miss when in the forum were people who knew how make a correct classification, not the group of special ignorants that we have now. Here I am seeing real niggers who are calling to this man "exotic".
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-frc1/262137_166607710072465_5084756_n.jpg

most of the people of this thread are more exotic than him with twenty years old, with sixty years old they will look even more exotic.
Yeah, there is many biased and ignorance around. I have seen this time to time around here. there some of them around in the forum who give good classifications But not in group numbers. are outnumber by ignorants and rookie types who lacks in phenotypes,classifications.

[Tooting Carmen]

That man has a much more neutral face than this for example:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00811/SNN2603GL-280_811483a.jpg

Gary Lineker seems to have got darker with time, and probably uses fake tan moreover. Here is how he used to look:
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/article80823.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/Gary+Lineker+1990 http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/tscouk_old_image/gary%20lineker%2052925919.jpg?itok=pmgy93rb

[Lábaru]

He may be normal for Spain, and a few other places in Southern Europe, but the point is that he would not pass - at least not very easily - in most parts of Europe.

And what's that supposed to mean? What they can't fits in England? here the same stupid reasoning of always, that it's all about fit there or in northern Europe, a huge number of Europeans shows specific features from a reduced area, but don't be dishonest, it's not what is being said in this thread by niggers and true exotic non-European people.

[Damião de Góis]

Gary Lineker seems to have got darker with time, and probably uses fake tan moreover. Here is how he used to look:


Again.... that man has a much more neutral face than this:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/gary-lineker-young/pa-photos_t_10-brilliant-photos-young-gary-lineker-gallery-0112g.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Again.... that man has a much more neutral face than this:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/gary-lineker-young/pa-photos_t_10-brilliant-photos-young-gary-lineker-gallery-0112g.jpg

He doesn't always look as odd as in the photos you've shown. But let us not go off-topic any longer please.

[Empecinado]

Then I guess North African looks in Spain are more common than I thought, if that is "normal".

This guy doesn't looks North African at all. It's clear you are not familiarized with NA phenotypes.

[Damião de Góis]

He doesn't always look as odd as in the photos you've shown. But let us not go off-topic any longer please.

Why, i'm comparing the exotic man you posted who only looks normal for the southern periphery to some "more normal people" from where you come from:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6KFzpTCQAA10yx.png

[Tooting Carmen]

I forgot to ask in the title: where would they pass?

Moreover, could we discuss all of them please, and not just the first one?

[Cristiano viejo]

lol at this thread, la vita e bella :lol:


Yes I know that most Andalusians look the same as other Spaniards, but they do have a higher percentage of exotic individuals than are found elsewhere in Spain, such as the following:
That´s because there are more people in Andalusia than any other Spanish region.


Manuel Baena Cobos
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg
Not so exotic imo
he is just dark.


Enrique Javier Benitez Palma
http://fotos00.laopiniondemalaga.es/2008/09/14/318x200/2008-09-21_IMG_2008-09-14_22:18:46_d013ma01.jpg
A bit exotic. But too far for classifying.

Jose Cara Gonzalez
http://www.telealmerianoticias.es/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Jos%C3%A9-Cara-Gonz%C3%A1lez.jpg
Not so exotic. If he was from other country he would classified as brunn.


Manuel Jimenez Barrios
http://images.eldiario.es/andalucia/Jimenez-Barrios-Gobierno-Alcaldia-Chiclana_EDIIMA20130909_0490_15.jpg
lol at this thread, la vita e bella :lol:


Jose Antonio Nieto Ballesteros
http://agendaempresa.com/wp-content/uploads/Jos%C3%A9-Antonio-Nieto-Ballesteros.jpg
:coffee:


Rafaela Obrero Ariza
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GniW7he3T3w/maxresdefault.jpg
Ugly.


Alfonso Rodriguez Gomez de Celis
http://nurainmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/alfonso_gomez_decelis.jpg
True exotic.



Jose Luis Sanchez Teruel (he's light, but his features look kind of Armenoid)
http://www.psoealmeria.com/images/nuestros-representantes/jose-luis-sanchez-teruel.jpg

are you joking, right?

[GrebluBro]

Moreover, could we discuss all of them please, and not just the first one?

Only this guy is very exotic and he can pass even in India if he is dark enough :lol:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BdMrRP1wKhM/T-6lcKvWdKI/AAAAAAAAOkw/aCzfgD5OlCU/s1600/manuel_baena_cobos%255B1%255D.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Well, considering that, in the past, Spaniards as dark as these have been denounced as being atypical or barely even native by Spanish forum users themselves, so now we are being told that they are mainstream?

Also, Alex de Large: Again, as with Lineker, Martin Keown does not always look as odd as in the photo you have shown. He is a Paleo-Atlantid Cro-Magnid.
http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article8720409.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Martin-Keown.jpg http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52114000/jpg/_52114311_keown1.jpg http://celebpictu.com/images/martin-keown-08.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

lol at this thread, la vita e bella :lol:


That´s because there are more people in Andalusia than any other Spanish region.


Not so exotic imo
he is just dark.


A bit exotic. But too far for classifying.

Not so exotic. If he was from other country he would classified as brunn.


lol at this thread, la vita e bella :lol:


:coffee:


Ugly.


True exotic.




are you joking, right?

Most of the ugly types I seen and notice are classify or say to be "exotic" But they are not really "exotic" they are just ugly. :D

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Well, considering that, in the past, Spaniards as dark as these have been denounced as being atypical or barely even native by Spanish forum users themselves, so now we are being told that they are mainstream?

Also, Alex de Large: Again, as with Lineker, Martin Keown does not always look as odd as in the photo you have shown. He is a Paleo-Atlantid Cro-Magnid.
http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article8720409.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Martin-Keown.jpg http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52114000/jpg/_52114311_keown1.jpg http://celebpictu.com/images/martin-keown-08.jpg

He looks kind of North African, Algerian, in the last pic, third one. Or I just say that because he don't have the hair of average British,English and has more full lips. xD

[Damião de Góis]

Also, Alex de Large: Again, as with Lineker, Martin Keown does not always look as odd as in the photo you have shown. He is a Paleo-Atlantid Cro-Magnid.


Yeah, he looked very pan-european when younger. Not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/thegermanflowerpot/sthshsgg-1.jpg

Just like Peter Shilton, who is not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://caps.ball72.com/images1/peter-shilton-6.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

He looks kind of North African, Algerian, in the last pic, third one. Or I just say that because he don't have the hair of average British,English and has more full lips. xD

He's on the odd side I agree, but not to the extent as demonstrated in the photo Alex showed of him.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah, he looked very pan-european when younger. Not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/thegermanflowerpot/sthshsgg-1.jpg

Just like Peter Shilton, who is not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://caps.ball72.com/images1/peter-shilton-6.jpg

The photos you're showing of these somewhat darker-than-average (for Britain) footballers are usually the least flattering possible. Here is Peter Shilton with the rest of the England football team of his time. He is not as odd as in your photo, but this photo below does demonstrate that most Brits are definitely not like him:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01373/peter-shilton_1373369c.jpg

[Damião de Góis]

The photos you're showing of these somewhat darker-than-average (for Britain) footballers are usually the least flattering possible. Here is Peter Shilton with the rest of the England football team of his time. He is not as odd as in your photo, but this photo below does demonstrate that most Brits are definitely not like him:


I'm just comparing and contrasting real europeans such as this

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00223/a_223189a.jpg

with this exotic man

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RD_GaStiChw/S_6JCJx6liI/AAAAAAAAEnc/YSrtMlFhoT0/s400/Manuel+baena+alcalde+puente+genil+mayo+2010.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

I'm just comparing and contrasting real europeans such as this

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00223/a_223189a.jpg

with this exotic man

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RD_GaStiChw/S_6JCJx6liI/AAAAAAAAEnc/YSrtMlFhoT0/s400/Manuel+baena+alcalde+puente+genil+mayo+2010.jpg

Lol I knew you were going to bring up Chris Coleman at some point. He is in a rare 1-2% group for Britain and is indeed darker than the majority of Southern Italians and Greeks.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I'm just comparing and contrasting real europeans such as this

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00223/a_223189a.jpg

with this exotic man

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RD_GaStiChw/S_6JCJx6liI/AAAAAAAAEnc/YSrtMlFhoT0/s400/Manuel+baena+alcalde+puente+genil+mayo+2010.jpg

That man looks more exotic than the called as "exotic", the Andalucian man passes in many places, countries of Europe while the other man looks off-European, and hardly passes anywhere in Europe. Well he can pass in many European countries but as a Gypsy or something. xD

[Empecinado]

Yeah, he looked very pan-european when younger. Not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/thegermanflowerpot/sthshsgg-1.jpg

Just like Peter Shilton, who is not exotic like that man, who only passes in the southern periphery of Europe.

http://caps.ball72.com/images1/peter-shilton-6.jpg

This is how works:

-If Spanish and dark: North African look

-If British and dark: Paleo Atlantid look

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Or as a Turk

[Damião de Góis]

Lol I knew you were going to bring up Chris Coleman at some point. He is in a rare 1-2% group for Britain and is indeed darker than the majority of Southern Italians and Greeks.

So what are you waiting for to make threads about them? I thought you specialized on exotic people? Or is it just exotic people from elsewhere?

[Ibericus]

Only one of the man looks exotic (the indian-looking one, probably gypsy roots), the others look normal

[Tooting Carmen]

So what are you waiting for to make threads about them? I thought you specialized on exotic people? Or is it just exotic people from elsewhere?

Chris Coleman already has a thread. As for the others, I don't know. Besides, I myself have made threads about other dark/exotic/dubious Brits - cricketer Alistair Cook; MPs John Redwood and Stephen Twigg; BBC journalists David Bond, Jonathan Charles, Daniel Sandford, Danny Savage, Nick Bryant; Made in Chelsea stars Hugo Taylor and Ollie Locke, to name but a few. Furthermore, I myself have indeed said that the British are, as a whole, noticeably more brunette than are other Northern Europeans, so don't accuse me of being so selective lol.

[GrebluBro]

Lol I knew you were going to bring up Chris Coleman at some point. He is in a rare 1-2% group for Britain and is indeed darker than the majority of Southern Italians and Greeks.

He is Welsh..so not surprised
Not much different from his wife though

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/27/article-2403354-1B7CCD0D000005DC-77_634x892.jpghttp://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/159633585-chris-coleman-and-charlotte-jackson-attend-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QSP94WvbNU8pUuq1GPJewkGMlLtd Ry1wgOyE9DOnvQjSRRIiWsDFS1r47g%2FUIWz%2BpA%3D%3Dht tp://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20131211/anchorman_2_premiere_111213_05/charlotte-jackson-chris-coleman-uk-premiere-of-anchorman_3994561.jpg

[Peyrol]

Iberia and North Africa. One or two could pass in Turkey though.

No way they can pass in Marocco.
Maybe very few of them in some MENA countries, but not in Morocco.

[Tooting Carmen]

He is Welsh..so not surprised
Not much different from his wife though

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/27/article-2403354-1B7CCD0D000005DC-77_634x892.jpghttp://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/159633585-chris-coleman-and-charlotte-jackson-attend-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QSP94WvbNU8pUuq1GPJewkGMlLtd Ry1wgOyE9DOnvQjSRRIiWsDFS1r47g%2FUIWz%2BpA%3D%3Dht tp://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20131211/anchorman_2_premiere_111213_05/charlotte-jackson-chris-coleman-uk-premiere-of-anchorman_3994561.jpg

The Welsh are a little darker than other Brits, but still most look nothing like him lol.

[Lábaru]

He is Welsh..so not surprised


Another demonstration of genious by one racial inspector that we can enjoy, just great, The Welsh are dark people, says an Indiano.

[Ibericus]

Then I guess North African looks in Spain are more common than I thought, if that is "normal".
That man (first one with moustache) has a perfectly normal iberian face, he's just overtanned.

[Empecinado]

Spanish + moustache + tan = North African look xD

[Argentano]

this seems to be the only exotic..looks indian

http://nurainmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/alfonso_gomez_decelis.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

North African=Berberid. The Berberid phenotype and ancestry =Minority in Iberian peninsula.

[Lábaru]

Spanish + moustache + tan = North African look xD

Mode forocoches On
Son maestrillos sanos.
Mode forocoches Off

[Tooting Carmen]

For those who have not noticed still: I have renamed the thread to "relatively dark members...", given that the general consensus is that they are not especially exotic in most cases.

[Smeagol]

North African=Berberid. The Berberid phenotype and ancestry =Minority in Iberian peninsula.

Berberid doesn't really exist in Europe at all. North Africans also have Saharid, and negroid elements.

[Tooting Carmen]

North Africans also have Saharid, and negroid elements.

Not all of them.

[Peyrol]

Average north african moru (real moru, not the usual ''antrolegend piel-leche berber'') appearence:



http://www.lettera43.it/upload/images/10_2012/l43-fikri-yara-121024164410_big.jpg



north african moru according to the antroboards:


http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/uomo-biondo-22010624.jpg

[Smeagol]

Not all of them.

Well the majority are a mix of Saharid, and Berberid. Saharids are the Mediterranoids of North Africa, but specialised more to the desert without being as specialised as Arabids, but going in a similar direction. They are not present in Europe. Also, probably about 1/4 of North Africans show negroid influences.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well the majority are a mix of Saharid, and Berberid. Saharids are the Mediterranoids of North Africa, but specialised more to the desert without being as specialised as Arabids, but going in a similar direction. They are not present in Europe. Also, probably about 1/4 of North Africans show negroid influences.

OK that's true.

[Tooting Carmen]

Average moru (real moru, not the usual ''antrolegend piel-leche berber'') appearence:



http://www.lettera43.it/upload/images/10_2012/l43-fikri-yara-121024164410_big.jpg



moru according to the antroboards:


http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/uomo-biondo-22010624.jpg

True.

[Lábaru]

For those who have not noticed still: I have renamed the thread to "relatively dark members...", given that the general consensus is that they are not especially exotic in most cases.

For be honest I prefer the old title, or even a new one "average Maghrebi and Indian faces from European periphery"
http://elcorreoweb.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/jimenez-barrios.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RD_GaStiChw/S_6JCJx6liI/AAAAAAAAEnc/YSrtMlFhoT0/s400/Manuel+baena+alcalde+puente+genil+mayo+2010.jpg

Indiano88: Ohhh they can fits in India with my daddy.
OctoroonWaffenSS: Yees, North African genes are powerful in them.

[B01AB20]

I've always seen the gypsy in manolo escobar

http://www.enviadoespecial.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/escobar.jpg

or not...

http://tanakamusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Manolo-Escobar.jpg

sometimes I see it and sometimes no ;).


his brothas are even more something-looking, gypsy-looking?, moor, berid-looking?, don't know but there's something noticeable, or not?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ElIsjfOGc14/Umo6lKeWWjI/AAAAAAAAAmw/QAENHsarsxI/s1600/manolo_escobar-5.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tP_PncgwVnM/Umpm_I-f00I/AAAAAAAAO3A/3YzI-4-GBZ0/s1600/CARTEL+MANOLO+ESCOBAR+Y+HERMANOS.jpg

how would you classify them?

[Tooting Carmen]

I've always seen the gypsy in manolo escobar

http://www.enviadoespecial.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/escobar.jpg

or not...

http://tanakamusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Manolo-Escobar.jpg

sometimes I see it and sometimes no ;).


his brothas are even more something-looking, gypsy-looking?, moor, berid-looking?, don't know but there's something noticeable, or not?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ElIsjfOGc14/Umo6lKeWWjI/AAAAAAAAAmw/QAENHsarsxI/s1600/manolo_escobar-5.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tP_PncgwVnM/Umpm_I-f00I/AAAAAAAAO3A/3YzI-4-GBZ0/s1600/CARTEL+MANOLO+ESCOBAR+Y+HERMANOS.jpg

how would you classify them?

To me they look distinctly SW European, not Gypsy.

[Cristiano viejo]

I've always seen the gypsy in manolo escobar



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[B01AB20]

To me they look distinctly SW European, not Gypsy.

you're intimidated by the ambient naj, in a couple of hours you'll say they look north-african, and you'd be right this time! ;)


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el manolo quengloriaesté, siempre me pareció que tenía un perfil muy 'racial y español' :) al estilo de rocio jurado, pero los hermanos de jóvenes ya se pasan de 'racial y español' y me empiezan a parecer otra cosa... aunque tampoco se distigue muy bien.

mi favorita der manolo :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18l1q9F-FZs

[Tooting Carmen]

you're intimidated by the ambient naj, in a couple of hours you'll say they look north-african, and you'd be right this time! ;)



el manolo quengloriaesté, siempre me pareció que tenía un perfil muy 'racial y español' :) al estilo de rocio jurado, pero los hermanos de jóvenes ya se pasan de 'racial y español' y me empiezan a parecer otra cosa... aunque tampoco se distigue muy bien.

mi favorita der manolo :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18l1q9F-FZs

Well, put it this way: Xavier Cugat and Paloma San Basilio they are not.

[Cristiano viejo]

Manolator es mi ídolo musical. Si descubro que tenía raíces lolailas soy capaz de suicidarme ;)

[B01AB20]

Manolator es mi ídolo musical. Si descubro que tenía raíces lolailas soy capaz de suicidarme ;)

no lo creo aunque no tengo ni idea.

pero aquí tengo que dar un poco la razón a naj, el manolo y sus hermanos sobre todo tienen un aspecto que yo asocio inmediatamente con andalucia, o es muy característico en cantantes folcloricos andaluces y por eso los asocio.

había otro mas viejo que el manolo que tenía la cara perfecta para mostrar mi punto pero no recuerdo el nombre exacto... ortega, palito... el emigrante, tenía voz aguda como de pito, tu tienes que conocerlo.


edit.

juanito valderrama me cago en el porrompompero ;)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0iOiOuSOctOjFA3Y9W184XRj5Kb6we 6MCDk6LhCj_xr2lPaO2http://javierbarreiro.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/valderrama059.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

No me jodas, yo qué voy a conocer :lightbul: A mí sólo me mola Manolo Esobar. Y más que na por el Que viva España. Bueno, reconozco que alguna suya más me sé :peep: pero en general odio la música andaluza. Incluso odio bastantes canciones de Manolator, porque habla bien de los gitanos.
Otra cosa, si realmente hubiera sido gitano supongo que lo hubiera aireado a los cuatro vientos, ya que como estamos en un país de gilipollas, eso vende y mola :rolleyes:

[Tooting Carmen]

With all due respect, may we please go back to actually CLASSIFYING the people in the OP?

[Smeagol]

With all due respect, may we please go back to actually CLASSIFYING the people in the OP?

Manuel Baena Cobos: West Mediterranid + Cromagnid. Not exotic, just a bit darker pigmented than the average.

Enrique Javier Benitez Palma: Seems to be Mediterranid with Alpinoid influences.

Jose Cara Gonzalez: Slightly Alpinized Cromagnid, not exotic, would be classified as Brunn, or slightly Borrebeyized Brunn if he was lighter, and British.

Manuel Jimenez Barrios: Atlanto-Mediterranid with some Cromagnoid. Not exotic.

Jose Antonio Nieto Ballesteros: Slightly Alpinized Berid.

Rafaela Obrero Ariza: Some type of Mediterranid.

Alfonso Rodriguez Gomez de Celis: Gypsy?

Jose Luis Sanchez Teruel: Basically Kelticized Atlantid.

[Tooting Carmen]

Manuel Baena Cobos: West Mediterranid + Cromagnid. Not exotic, just a bit darker pigmented than the average.

Enrique Javier Benitez Palma: Seems to be Mediterranid with Alpinoid influences.

Jose Cara Gonzalez: Slightly Alpinized Cromagnid, not exotic, would be classified as Brunn, or slightly Borrebeyized Brunn if he was lighter, and British.

Manuel Jimenez Barrios: Atlanto-Mediterranid with some Cromagnoid. Not exotic.

Jose Antonio Nieto Ballesteros: Slightly Alpinized Berid.

Rafaela Obrero Ariza: Some type of Mediterranid.

Alfonso Rodriguez Gomez de Celis: Gypsy?

Jose Luis Sanchez Teruel: Basically Kelticized Atlantid.

Thank you very much.

[B01AB20]

No me jodas, yo qué voy a conocer :lightbul: A mí sólo me mola Manolo Esobar.

ya veo, mi padre era un fan de la copla, así que el manolo, la marifé de triana, el juanito y un montón mas son como compañeros de juegos para mi.

yo sobreviví a toneladas y toneladas de copla española macho ;), no todo el mundo puede presumir de eso.

[The King, I am]

What? I don't understand short word writing, what does this words mean? And Don't take it personal, But it is the truth. It's Bullcrap.

The Moors were comprised of mainly Berbers and Arabs with some negroes
How is that bullcrap?

[Cristiano viejo]

ya veo, mi padre era un fan de la copla, así que el manolo, la marifé de triana, el juanito y un montón mas son como compañeros de juegos para mi.

yo sobreviví a toneladas y toneladas de copla española macho ;), no todo el mundo puede presumir de eso.
Ya te digo :icon_lol: mi madre es fan de Rocío Jurado y toda esa mierda. Menos mal que me independicé pronto xD


The Moors were comprised of mainly Berbers and Arabs with some negroes
How is that bullcrap?
Earlier Moors aka true Berbers were not Arabs nor niggas. In fact, it´s very possible that they were whites.
But yeah, you already know this.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

The Moors were comprised of mainly Berbers and Arabs with some negroes
How is that bullcrap?

Ya le he dicho, Moro.

[Dynamo]

That man has a much more neutral face than this for example:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00811/SNN2603GL-280_811483a.jpg

Gary Linekar!!! MOTD..people who don't live in Britain will probably not get it

[Odin]

Mainly South-Meds and Berids.