Of these small samples of Andalusians and Sicilians, who looks more exotic/extreme?

[Tooting Carmen]

Relatively exotic Andalusians http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?116549-Classify-these-very-exotic-Members-of-the-Andalusian-Parliament
Relatively exotic Sicilians http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?100223-Classify-these-Sicilian-councillors-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=ignazio+catanzaro

[Sikeliot]

The Spaniards more extreme for Spain than the Sicilians are for Sicily, but I would say that the Sicilians are more extreme for Europe. But the Andalusians are not far behind.

[Kalimtari]

Both in equal measure

[GrebluBro]

Very exotic Andalusians http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?116549-Classify-these-very-exotic-Members-of-the-Andalusian-Parliament
Very exotic Sicilians http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?100223-Classify-these-Sicilian-councillors-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=ignazio+catanzaro


Andalusians are more Euro looking than Sicilians on average.



http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?69453-Andalusians

[andread24]

Calabria people are way more exotic and darker than Sicilians, even if they're norther.

[Tooting Carmen]

Calabria people are way more exotic and darker than Sicilians, even if they're norther.

Insofar as that is true at all, it is because Sicily - or at least the Palermo area - has a considerable Norman influence, alongside all the West Asian influence. Incidentally, I did make a thread about some Calabrese councillors too: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?108395-Where-would-more-of-these-people-from-Calabria-Southern-Italy-pass-Britain-or-Syria&highlight=people+calabria+pass%3F

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Sicilians

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Both in equal measure
The reality is another story.

[Smeagol]

What is your obsession with finding ''exotic'' Europeans?:picard1:

[Tooting Carmen]

What is your obsession with finding ''exotic'' Europeans?:picard1:

Because they are (a) interesting and (b) go against the conventional idea that Europeans all look the same. But anyway, if you don't like my threads, then don't bother commenting on them.

[Smeagol]

Because they are (a) interesting and (b) go against the conventional idea that Europeans all look the same.

There are a few exotic people in every population. Too few to prove any kind of idea wrong. And yes, I've explained many times what constitutes a European look.

[Tooting Carmen]

There are a few exotic people in every population.

Yes, but the number rises exponentially south of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube.

[Smeagol]

Yes, but the number rises exponentially south of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube.

No not really to a large degree, except for in Sicily, far Southern Italy, and some of the Greek Islands.

[Tooting Carmen]

No not really to a large degree, except for in Sicily, far Southern Italy, and some of the Greek Islands.

I'd still say that Swedes and Sicilians have about as much in common as do Japanese and Malays, and no one with any sense and knowledge would say those two Asian groups look alike whatsoever. Besides, there is a clear cline in Europe from North to South in terms of pigmentation (hair colour, eye colour, skin tone), even leaving aside the most exotic/extreme types as found in the OP.

N.B. A partial exception to that rule is that there are fewer blondes in Britain and Ireland than in the Netherlands and Germany - which have a more southerly latitude - but this is not the appropriate thread to discuss that.

[Smeagol]

I'd still say that Swedes and Sicilians have about as much in common as do Japanese and Malays, and no one with any sense and knowledge would say those two Asian groups look alike whatsoever.

Japanese and Malays both have a Palaemongolid base. Have you ever been to Japan? They're much more southern looking than people assume, although they do have a fair amount of more northern Tungid, and Sinid types.


Besides, there is a clear cline in Europe from North to South in terms of pigmentation (hair colour, eye colour, skin tone), even leaving aside the most exotic/extreme types as found in the OP.

Well obviously, but we aren't talking about pigmentation, and Europeans despite significant differences still look more like each other than like anyone else for example. There are a few exceptions, but generally that's the truth.

[Tooting Carmen]

Japanese and Malays both have a Palaemongolid base. Have you ever been to Japan? They're much more southern looking than people assume, although they do have a fair amount of more northern Tungid, and Sinid types.

Well whatever, but I was just trying to make a point that nobody except the most ignorant/bigoted/foolish/blind talks about a uniform 'Asian' look, and talking about a uniform 'European' look is just as illegitimate.




Well obviously, but we aren't talking about pigmentation, and Europeans despite significant differences still look more like each other than like anyone else for example. There are a few exceptions, but generally that's the truth.

The 'few exceptions' being: most Cypriots; many Greeks, Southern Italians/Sicilians and Maltese; and even a few Iberians, Northern Italians and Balkanites.

Anyway, I do not want to go off-topic any longer thanks.

[Argentano]

and the more exotic award goes to...

http://p28.badoo.com/38/9/1/0/126150884/166534/t1349619612/c_i5fr8UaAL.GRjNVbCV2tu.hMAM0umi3dJsYd.i29MRA/178324_300.jpghttp://nurainmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/alfonso_gomez_decelis.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Calabria people are way more exotic and darker than Sicilians, even if they're norther.

Somewhat, but the darkest area in Sicily is Agrigento, which is darker than Calabria I think.

[Faklon]

La vita e Ben Franklin

[Faklon]

Let's say that you're intrested to classify them because of their let's say "odd" phenos,why should you open a thread like who looks more exoOotic?Explain me the logic,pls.

[Tooting Carmen]

Let's say that you're intrested to classify them because of their let's say "odd" phenos,why should you open a thread like who looks more exoOotic?Explain me the logic,pls.

To see what others think about the particular individuals and why.

[Faklon]

To see what others think about the particular individuals and why.

Who looks more exotic for what?
For Europe?
For Italy?
For Spain?
For burgers?

[Tooting Carmen]

Who looks more exotic for what?
For Europe?
For Italy?
For Spain?


Principally for Europe, but to some extent their own respective countries too.

[Faklon]

Principally for Europe, but to some extent their own respective countries too.

Didn't you examine their phenos in the other threads?

All this seems provocative to me and not in a straight forward way.

When I read all these exotic threads,I imagine of this guy btw:

http://astroibrahim.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/hands_up_meme.jpeg

[andread24]

Somewhat, but the darkest area in Sicily is Agrigento, which is darker than Calabria I think.

Trust me, i know a lot of calabrians and are very dark in every counties from Cosenza (most north) to Reggio Calabria (south), it's a sort of permanent tan. Sicilians except some people have light skin.

[Sikeliot]

Trust me, i know a lot of calabrians and are very dark in every counties from Cosenza (most north) to Reggio Calabria (south), it's a sort of permanent tan. Sicilians except some people have light skin.

Maybe in terms of skin color. But in terms of features Sicilians look similar to Calabrese. Most Greeks are slightly lighter than both.