How Communist China freed the Tibetan People and gave them Human Rights

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1df683_how-communist-china-freed-the-tibetan-people-and-gave-them-human-rights_news

[RussiaPrussia]

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[Kiyant]

I could throw up............

[RussiaPrussia]

I could throw up............

watch the video or dont argue

[Kiyant]

watch the video or dont argue

Why should i watch a chinese propaganda video?
I already knew that the Tibetan rulers werent the best/nicest people of the world but China isnt extremely friendly to Tibetans or care about them.

[RussiaPrussia]

Why should i watch a chinese propaganda video?
I already knew that the Tibetan rulers werent the best/nicest people of the world but China isnt extremely friendly to Tibetans or care about them.

how is it propaganda if its a white professor from the west?

[RussiaPrussia]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world. The communist party owns the economy and the state, and the people own the communist party. In the west is reversed.

[Loki]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world. The communist party owns the economy and the state, and the people own the communist party. In the west is reversed.

Agreed

[Lurker]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world. The communist party owns the economy and the state, and the people own the communist party. In the west is reversed.

Wrong: a small elite of chinese families owns the communist party. Nowadays the leaders of the communist party are the direct descendants of the revolutionaries of 1949 (like Xi Jinping). There's a communist party "nobility" if you can call it so.

Something that has always irritated me is the impossibility of striking inside a communist country. If you strike, then you're a capitalist dog, or working for them against the true leadership of the proletariat (The Party), and the state has a right to shoot you (this coming from Lenin himself to all the other communist leaders).

China is Orwell's Animal Farm come to life. Most communist states are/were like that.

[Unome]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world.
:lol00002: :laugh2: :rotfl: :lol00001: :rofl: :clap2:

Good one, qft.

[Annihilus]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world. The communist party owns the economy and the state, and the people own the communist party. In the west is reversed.

screw you


Agreed

and you too :(

[RussiaPrussia]

Wrong: a small elite of chinese families owns the communist party. Nowadays the leaders of the communist party are the direct descendants of the revolutionaries of 1949 (like Xi Jinping). There's a communist party "nobility" if you can call it so.

Something that has always irritated me is the impossibility of striking inside a communist country. If you strike, then you're a capitalist dog, or working for them against the true leadership of the proletariat (The Party), and the state has a right to shoot you (this coming from Lenin himself to all the other communist leaders).

China is Orwell's Animal Farm come to life. Most communist states are/were like that.

it was forbidden to strike even when china was communist, funny how capitalista merica has higher homocide rate than china? People are shooting themselves even without lenin there

[Longbowman]

You're almost like a Communist Microrobert.

But it is true. Tibet was somewhat feudal before the Chinese invasion. Now, they can vote for whatever party they like, provided it's the Communist party, which during the 50s and 60s diverted food from Tibet and killed half the population in an attempt to quell nationalistic spirit. They continue to do this, too. Hundreds of thousands of Tibetan exiles are testimony to this, including the Dalai Lama, one of the world's most peaceful men.

But that's cool. Just wars. Just like it's cool America went into Iraq, to turn them from a dictatorship that gassed Kurds into a democracy. And when they went into Afghanistan to stop the Taleban, who are super undemocratic and oppressive. Right? Right? People should be grateful both nations intervene with things that don't concern them for the greater moral good. Even if China simply annexed Tibet and officially did it because they considered Tibet to belong to China because it used to be in the Chinese empire despite having a completely different language, culture, ethnicity, religion, and national outlook, and the small fact that they didn't want to stop being independent.

That's what I thought. When America does it, it's Western horror. When someone you like does it, it's for the betterment of humanity, even if their actions are exactly the same or even worse. You're no better than your counterparts in the Tea Party. Perhaps worse. America is at least an actual democracy. The same cannot be said for voter-fraud Russia (members of this forum have 'voted for Putin' in another town or district from their own, despite, of course, having done no such thing) or one-party China (seriously, how can you be considered democratic when only one candidate is allowed to stand? It's a joke). You're a horrific person. Be grateful you were raised in Germany and not any of the places you so ardently defend.

[Caismeachd]

Wrong: a small elite of chinese families owns the communist party. Nowadays the leaders of the communist party are the direct descendants of the revolutionaries of 1949 (like Xi Jinping). There's a communist party "nobility" if you can call it so.

Something that has always irritated me is the impossibility of striking inside a communist country. If you strike, then you're a capitalist dog, or working for them against the true leadership of the proletariat (The Party), and the state has a right to shoot you (this coming from Lenin himself to all the other communist leaders).

China is Orwell's Animal Farm come to life. Most communist states are/were like that.

Wheres the source for that? I remember reading somewhere that China's leaders were scientists and engineers unlike in the west where they are just actors.

[Longbowman]

Wheres the source for that? I remember reading somewhere that China's leaders were scientists and engineers unlike in the west where they are just actors.

If the people want to elect an actor, once, that's cool. If a bunch of guys, none of whom are scientists and engineers decide to just take over, that's not cool.

[Caismeachd]

http://singularityhub.com/2011/05/17/eight-out-of-chinas-top-nine-government-officials-are-scientists/

[RussiaPrussia]

http://singularityhub.com/2011/05/17/eight-out-of-chinas-top-nine-government-officials-are-scientists/

meanwhile every US president served in the military

[Hayalet]

how is it propaganda if its a white professor from the west?
Iron logic.

[Longbowman]

meanwhile every US president served in the military

...nope.

Obama didn't, Clinton didn't.

Bush Jr. served in the Texas Air Guard which is like a militia. Bush Sr. served during World War Two. Reagan also served in World War Two, entertaining the troops, as he was an actor.

Truman through Carter served, though LBJ, Nixon and Ford were instrumental in WWII, winning medals of valour. Everyone served during WWII of course.

FDR, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson and Taft didn't.

Roosevelt I, McKinley and Harrison did. Theodore Roosevelt won the Medal of Honour (posthumously).

Cleveland didn't.

Arthur served in the New York State Militia, which super duper does not count.

Garfield, Hayes, and of course Grant all served in the Civil War.

Johnson did.

Abraham Lincoln was in the Illinois State Militia which doesn't really count.

Buchanan was in the Pennsylvania State Militia which doesn't really count.

Pierce and of course Taylor did. Fillmore was in the Militia though.

Tyler and Harrison did. Polk was in the Militia and like Filmore did not actually do any shooty stuff.

Van Buren and Quincy Adams didn't.

Monroe fought in the Revolution and was wounded. Maddison and Jefferson were in militias during the Revolutionary War but did not actually do any fighting.

Adams didn't.

Washington, of course, was a soldier.

In total, of 45 US Presidents, 12 have seen no service of any kind, 6 served only in militias, 2 served in militias but actually did some fighting, one was an entertainer, and the remaining 26 were indeed soldiers at some point; however, none were soldiers when they became President.

Russian and Soviet chiefs have a similar history of military service.

[Longbowman]

Yeah if you could not thumb me down for proving you wrong with a simple factual list with no political bias, that'd be super, comrade.

[RussiaPrussia]

...nope.

Obama didn't, Clinton didn't.

Bush Jr. served in the Texas Air Guard which is like a militia. Bush Sr. served during World War Two. Reagan also served in World War Two, entertaining the troops, as he was an actor.

Truman through Carter served, though LBJ, Nixon and Ford were instrumental in WWII, winning medals of valour. Everyone served during WWII of course.

FDR, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson and Taft didn't.

Roosevelt I, McKinley and Harrison did. Theodore Roosevelt won the Medal of Honour (posthumously).

Cleveland didn't.

Arthur served in the New York State Militia, which super duper does not count.

Garfield, Hayes, and of course Grant all served in the Civil War.

Johnson did.

Abraham Lincoln was in the Illinois State Militia which doesn't really count.

Buchanan was in the Pennsylvania State Militia which doesn't really count.

Pierce and of course Taylor did. Fillmore was in the Militia though.

Tyler and Harrison did. Polk was in the Militia and like Filmore did not actually do any shooty stuff.

Van Buren and Quincy Adams didn't.

Monroe fought in the Revolution and was wounded. Maddison and Jefferson were in militias during the Revolutionary War but did not actually do any fighting.

Adams didn't.

Washington, of course, was a soldier.

In total, of 45 US Presidents, 12 have seen no service of any kind, 6 served only in militias, 2 served in militias but actually did some fighting, one was an entertainer, and the remaining 26 were indeed soldiers at some point; however, none were soldiers when they became President.

you know the US presidents better than your kings it seems

[Longbowman]

you know the US presidents better than your kings it seems

I know about my Kings and Queens too.

[RussiaPrussia]

god bless china

[Longbowman]

god bless china

The Communist Party of China does not believe in God.

[RussiaPrussia]

The Communist Party of China does not believe in God.

so does your goverment

[Longbowman]

so does your goverment

Actually the Queen is also head of the Anglican Church, our official state religion, but nice try. Cameron is an Anglican (although the leader of the opposition, Milliband, is an Atheist).

[RussiaPrussia]

Actually the Queen is also head of the Anglican Church, our official state religion, but nice try. Cameron is an Anglican (although the leader of the opposition, Milliband, is an Atheist).

Cameron believes in a god but his god is the dollar not the one we are talking about

[Loki]

The Communist Party of China does not believe in God.

China is more religious than Japan. And actually, Confucianism is making a comeback ... even within the Communist Party.

[Longbowman]

China is more religious than Japan. And actually, Confucianism is making a comeback ... even within the Communist Party.

Confucianism isn't really a religion. The hoi polloi may be various stripes of Christian, Taoist, Muslim or Buddhist, but the country is not guided by, officially for, or even less-than-intolerant-of religion in general.

[Longbowman]

Cameron believes in a god but his god is the dollar not the one we are talking about

*pound sterling.

Cameron is a regular churchgoer, I believe. He's certainly a fervent Anglican.

[Cleitus]

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/204/c/0/communism_kills_by_dashinvaine-d6et3wa.jpg

[Lurker]

Wheres the source for that? I remember reading somewhere that China's leaders were scientists and engineers unlike in the west where they are just actors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princelings

http://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/china/2005/02/200502131315.shtml

I don't know if all the 200 of them are influential, but most certainly Xi Jinping's biography shows that family ties can get one very far inside the communist party. You know, something that wasn't supposed to happen in a communist state. And Xi Jinping is a scientist, he's a chemichal engineer, but one thing doesn't exclude the other. One can be both a scientist and the son of an influential revolutionary.

[RussiaPrussia]

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/204/c/0/communism_kills_by_dashinvaine-d6et3wa.jpg

capitalism killed billions and keeps killing

[Proto-Shaman]

china is a true democracy and an example to the world. The communist party owns the economy and the state, and the people own the communist party. In the west is reversed.
Do you even know what "Democracy" really means? I suspect not.

[Linebacker]

Communism sucks.Uncle Sam all the way.

[Rex_]

The Democratic reform in Tibet freed a million serfs from feudal tyranny. Comrade Mao Tse-tung was one of histories greatest humanitarians, uplifting millions of people out of poverty and superstition, and led them to freedom and learning. The hardships and strife of feudalism are today unimaginable thanks to the Communist Party of China. Living conditions drastically improved and national sovereignty and stability was maintained.

Today what the CCP needs is a return to Marxism-Leninism and a purge of the capitalist roaders.

[Longbowman]

The Democratic reform in Tibet freed a million serfs from feudal tyranny. Comrade Mao Tse-tung was one of histories greatest humanitarians, uplifting millions of people out of poverty and superstition, and led them to freedom and learning. The hardships and strife of feudalism are today unimaginable thanks to the Communist Party of China. Living conditions drastically improved and national sovereignty and stability was maintained.

Today what the CCP needs is a return to Marxism-Leninism and a purge of the capitalist roaders.

I refer you to my earlier satirical post praising Mao for killing 50% of the population.

Anyhow, humanitarian like the US stepping into Iraq to turn it democratic and free the Kurds, right?

[Rojava]

Anyhow, humanitarian like the US stepping into Iraq to turn it democratic and free the Kurds, right?

The Americans didn't give a shit about the people, but only to ensure that there was a pro American bourgoise leader (Barzani) to take power and give the Americans a stronghold in the ME. They supported Barzani as soon as Saddam became anti American, but they didn't give a shit about him before that.

Capitalism enslaves the proleteriat, and if the proleteriat refuse to co operate then the punishment will be severe (Great Irish famine for example).

Capitalism is the sole reason why slavery still exists and has existed in the first place. The slave trade & sex trade were/are all Capitalist tools to make a few bastards quite rich and destroy the lives of some unfortunate souls.

Capitalists claim that Communism is not natural and doesn't fit in with the order of life, but if that's the case then the same can be said about money. Money is paper or metal with a given value. Why is it that this paper or metal is worth so much more than a life of a human?

There is no war but class war, I find it unfair that a person like the Queen gets that status due to their ancestry but in return have done nothing to help anyone but themselves. A person with money has an unfair advantage to a person that was born into poverty.

[Rojava]

Do you even know what "Democracy" really means? I suspect not.

It seems no one does. The democracy that we see today only gives a voice to about 15% of the world population, which can also be manipulated by <1% of the world population.

Democracy of today is another tool to brainwash people and has proven to be inefficient in many situations. I prefer radical democracy, also known as Democratic Confederalism (Apoism) which itself is a form of Socialism.

[Longbowman]

The Americans didn't give a shit about the people, but only to ensure that there was a pro American bourgoise leader (Barzani) to take power and give the Americans a stronghold in the ME. They supported Barzani as soon as Saddam became anti American, but they didn't give a shit about him before that.

Capitalism enslaves the proleteriat, and if the proleteriat refuse to co operate then the punishment will be severe (Great Irish famine for example).

Capitalism is the sole reason why slavery still exists and has existed in the first place. The slave trade & sex trade were/are all Capitalist tools to make a few bastards quite rich and destroy the lives of some unfortunate souls.

Capitalists claim that Communism is not natural and doesn't fit in with the order of life, but if that's the case then the same can be said about money. Money is paper or metal with a given value. Why is it that this paper or metal is worth so much more than a life of a human?

There is no war but class war, I find it unfair that a person like the Queen gets that status due to their ancestry but in return have done nothing to help anyone but themselves. A person with money has an unfair advantage to a person that was born into poverty.

You'll grow up one day. However, I was making an analogy, not defending either.