View Full Version : Classify some dark-haired German footballers, and where can they pass?
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 10:51 PM
Mats Hummels
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hummels.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Mats_hummels.jpg
Roman Neustadter
http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/9000/artikel/778018/800-1353426028.jpg http://u.goal.com/204200/204212hp2.jpg
Heiko Westermann
http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/30964/.jpg http://www.bz-berlin.de/multimedia/archive/00253/heiko-westermann-t_25391818.jpg
Tim Wiese
http://ais.badische-zeitung.de/piece/03/74/de/d1/57990865.jpg http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dfb-team/1007/Bilder/tim-wiese-514.jpg
Christian Trasch
http://www.history-of-soccer.org/image-files/trasch-for-box.jpg http://mediadb.kicker.de/2013/fussball/spieler/xl/39463_24_2012718143916572.jpg
Ulf Kirsten
http://celebpictu.com/images/ulf-kirsten-02.jpg http://www.bayer04.de/bilder//10_11/07_t580/Ulf-Kirsten_0707a.jpg
Michael Ballack
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/article-1279179699092-0a7099f6000005dc-995704_636x721.jpg http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/ballack_0.jpg
GrebluBro
02-25-2014, 10:52 PM
LOL..
I appreciate you for not being biased :thumb001:
Most people won't think of these guys as German if they didn't know him..
Ballack is a Gem for German soccer
Kastrioti1443
02-25-2014, 10:55 PM
Central Europe and Balkan.
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 11:00 PM
Central Europe and Balkan.
Thank you. Anyone else?
They all would seem bit ''off''' in Poland, just odd faces.
Mats Hummels: Atlantid + Dinarid
Roman Neustadter: Alpine + CM influence.
Heiko Westermann: Borreby
Tim Wiese: Faelid
Christian Trasch: North Atlantid + CM.
Ulf Kirsten: CM/Atlantid
Michael Ballack: Faelid
Michael Ballack and Christian Trasch look very distinctly German.
Central Europe and Balkan.
Maybe they could pass there but these men look clearly different.
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 11:03 PM
Michael Ballack and Christian Trasch look very distinctly German.
In what way? And why can none of them pass in Poland?
Mn The Loki TA Son
02-25-2014, 11:04 PM
Central and Southern Europe
In what way? And why can none of them pass in Poland?
They just look so, because they in a very specific manner resemble other Germans to put it simply. I am just completely unused to seeing similar types in my country, just different proportions. I would immediately/instinctively think that they're German actually.
Mn The Loki TA Son
02-25-2014, 11:08 PM
The first one looks like this guy from Mexico of Spanish ancestry
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/c01de48c29b45ecb856fd6c0f091345c_zpsae28c4f9.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/008499_zpsd999387d.jpg
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 11:09 PM
The first one looks like this guy from Mexico of Spanish ancestry
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/c01de48c29b45ecb856fd6c0f091345c_zpsae28c4f9.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/008499_zpsd999387d.jpg
LOL you're right.
Smeagol
02-25-2014, 11:17 PM
Typically Central European in features despite dark pigmentation.
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 11:18 PM
Typically Central European in features despite dark pigmentation.
Hummels and Kirsten do look 'off' to me somehow, but I won't dispute what you just said regarding the rest of them.
GrebluBro
02-25-2014, 11:27 PM
http://mediadb.kicker.de/2013/fussball/spieler/xl/39463_24_2012718143916572.jpg
looks like
Armie Hammer, Hollywood actor
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/06/18/Armie-Hammer.jpg
Tooting Carmen
02-25-2014, 11:28 PM
http://mediadb.kicker.de/2013/fussball/spieler/xl/39463_24_2012718143916572.jpg
looks like
Armie Hammer, Hollywood actor
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/06/18/Armie-Hammer.jpg
A bit.
Sikeliot
02-25-2014, 11:44 PM
Northern Italy.
Cristiano viejo
02-26-2014, 12:27 AM
I have several threads about dark Germans.
People please, take a look
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?49323-Classify-the-german-descent-Dennis-Franz
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?106846-Classify-Austrian-former-alpine-skier-Mathias-Berthold
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?114686-Classify-German-Michaela-Schaefer
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?51818-Classify-germans-Pierre-Littbarski-amp-Mats-Hummels
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?52482-Classify-german-Ulrich-Matthes
Pierre Littbarski is from Polish origin.
Kalimtari
02-26-2014, 11:49 AM
some look med mixed, some look totally native
The King, I am
02-26-2014, 11:55 AM
Austrian, German, they would all look out of place in the Balkans except for number 2, he looks Minarid :tongue
The Black hair doesn't make them look any less German (Central European)
Kalimtari
02-26-2014, 12:00 PM
Austrian, German, they would all look out of place in the Balkans except for number 2, he looks Minarid :tongue
The Black hair doesn't make them look any less German (Central European)
don't be so sure about it
very true
Argentano
03-01-2014, 02:03 AM
i think they look like central europeans..they dont look southern on average
Prisoner Of Ice
03-01-2014, 02:19 AM
Most look german or mostly, second one doesn't look german at all.
Tooting Carmen
04-03-2014, 12:26 AM
Here's another one I forgot to include - Rene Adler.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Ren%C3%A9_Adler%2C_Germany_national_football_team_ %2801%29.jpg
Tooting Carmen
05-27-2014, 02:14 PM
A new addition to the German team - Kevin Volland.
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2014-manager-stories/550892-gunnersashas-bpl-chairman-game-250023705.jpg
Alphawolf
05-27-2014, 02:20 PM
The majority looks Celtic. However there are more individuals with darker hair among Celts than Germans.
guyinsf
05-28-2014, 06:34 PM
Quite a few could pass easily in Spain and a couple of them in France.
guyinsf
05-28-2014, 06:35 PM
Ballack has obvious northern dark looks, not the southern.
guyinsf
05-28-2014, 06:36 PM
Btw there's lots of dark haired people in German, your thread makes it sound like dark haired germans are some kind of minority in their country.
Tooting Carmen
05-28-2014, 06:37 PM
Btw there's lots of dark haired people in German, your thread makes it sound like dark haired germans are some kind of minority in their country.
They ARE a minority, albeit a very large one.
Peyrol
05-28-2014, 06:45 PM
Some of them can pass here but the majority look just...german.
Blondism is a minority in Germany, around 35-40%.
Don't trust the stereotype.
Tooting Carmen
05-28-2014, 06:50 PM
Blondism is a minority in Germany, around 35-40%.
True blonde hair, yes. But when you add them to those with light brown, medium brown or red hair, then they make up a considerable majority of native Germans.
Peyrol
05-28-2014, 06:54 PM
True blonde hair, yes. But when you add them to those with light brown, medium brown or red hair, then they make up a considerable majority of native Germans.
That's obvious.
guyinsf
05-29-2014, 06:12 AM
True blonde hair, yes. But when you add them to those with light brown, medium brown or red hair, then they make up a considerable majority of native Germans.
Uh sure but we're talking blond hair and blond isn't the majority.
armenianbodyhair
05-29-2014, 06:37 AM
Ballack can pass next to me bby
Tooting Carmen
06-16-2014, 11:20 AM
Julian Draxler
http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/3000/artikel/785961/800-1368292324.jpg
Hans Muller
http://www.hamburg-web.de/fotos/original/12993-Hansi-Mueller.jpg
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 03:48 PM
An apology: Roman Neustadter was born in Ukraine to a father of Volga German and Ukrainian descent. The rest, however, are still legit.
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 03:52 PM
Hans Muller
http://www.hamburg-web.de/fotos/original/12993-Hansi-Mueller.jpg
He looks Greco-Anatolian. Interesting. Could be Italian from the south too. Very non-German looking.
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 03:59 PM
He looks Greco-Anatolian. Interesting. Could be Italian from the south too. Very non-German looking.
Indeed. Who said that Brits were the only Northern Euros who could sometimes look truly Med? xD
Nurzat
03-27-2015, 04:02 PM
are Germans like the first one common? or absolute rarity? he has an Orlando Bloom vibe
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:04 PM
are Germans like the first one common? or absolute rarity? he has an Orlando Bloom vibe
A bit more common in the South than in the North. However, once the country is taken as a whole, probably 3-5%.
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:06 PM
He looks Greco-Anatolian. Interesting. Could be Italian from the south too. Very non-German looking.
Yes. Like I've constantly said, there are more Italians who look German than the reverse, which means that many if not most Germans would stand out less in Italy than the reverse, as wholesale Italian-Med types like Hansi Muller are very much outliers for Germany.
Nurzat
03-27-2015, 04:07 PM
A bit more common in the South than in the North. However, once the country is taken as a whole, probably 3-5%.
probably Atlantic facade infiltrations from the beginning of time. thus, Atlantid - Atlantomed. anyway, even brunette Germans have robust, manly features
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:10 PM
probably Atlantic facade infiltrations from the beginning of time. thus, Atlantid - Atlantomed. anyway, even brunette Germans have robust, manly features
Yes I agree. Conversely, even blondish Spaniards and Italians tend to be somewhat more gracile in their features than their Northern Euro equivalents, such as footballers Ciro Immobile and Ignacio Camacho.
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 04:11 PM
Yes I agree. Conversely, even blondish Spaniards and Italians tend to be somewhat more gracile in their features than their Northern Euro equivalents, such as footballers Ciro Immobile and Ignacio Camacho.
Not really. Blonde Iberians look more like actual Brits whereas blonde Italians do not .
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:16 PM
Not really. Blonde Iberians look more like actual Brits whereas blonde Italians do not .
(1) Brits themselves tend to be more gracile and with more angular faces than Germans and Scandinavians (when they aren't overweight). (2) Even taking that into account, however, while some blondish Iberians do indeed look wholesale British, many still look distinctly Iberian, especially in the facial shape and eye area, such as Ignacio Camacho and Iker Muniain.
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 04:19 PM
(1) Brits themselves tend to be more gracile and with more angular faces than Germans and Scandinavians (when they aren't overweight). (2) Even taking that into account, however, while some blondish Iberians do indeed look wholesale British, many still look distinctly Iberian, especially in the facial shape and eye area, such as Ignacio Camacho and Iker Muniain.
Ok but what I mean is blonde Italians look Southern European, or at least more like Austrians. A lot of the lighter Iberians (especially Baskid types) can look like Brits (think Keltic Nordid).
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:20 PM
Ok but what I mean is blonde Italians look Southern European, or at least more like Austrians. A lot of the lighter Iberians (especially Baskid types) can look like Brits (think Keltic Nordid).
Perhaps. Anyway, closer to topic, do these Germans look at all Southern Euro to you or not quite?
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 04:26 PM
Perhaps. Anyway, closer to topic, do these Germans look at all Southern Euro to you or not quite?
Only a few of them. The others look like dark Germans.
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 04:33 PM
Only a few of them.
Which ones?
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 04:35 PM
First two you posted though Mats Hummels still looks Turkish to me.
dawson
03-27-2015, 04:45 PM
the 2nd is not dark haired and he looks like Davide Santon who is Venetian. The rest look very German except Hummels who does not have a specific look
Venetkens
03-27-2015, 05:56 PM
Ok but what I mean is blonde Italians look Southern European, or at least more like Austrians. A lot of the lighter Iberians (especially Baskid types) can look like Brits (think Keltic Nordid).
Blonde Italians still look South Euro while light Iberians look British? :picard2:
Sikeliot
03-27-2015, 06:17 PM
Blonde Italians still look South Euro while light Iberians look British? :picard2:
Blonde Italians look like southern Germans, Austrians, southern French etc. Central to southern Europe.
Some of them don't need dark hair for looking off here.
Mats Hummels looks like an iberian Orlando Bloom. Tim Wiese looks like a mexican drug lord. And Roman Neustädter looks italian to me.
The others look german.
Tooting Carmen
03-27-2015, 08:33 PM
Joachim Low, the current German football manager
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/worldcup/article6466429.ece/alternates/w460/Joachim%20Low.jpg
Tooting Carmen
04-05-2015, 01:12 AM
bump
Tooting Carmen
04-08-2015, 06:00 PM
Karl-Heinz Riedle
http://www.taz.de/uploads/images/684x342/riedle_dpa.jpg
Journeyman26
04-08-2015, 06:12 PM
All of them still look fairly German or Austrian to me. Wouldn't be surprised if they were Swiss, Hungarian, Polish or Danes. Exceptions being Mats Hummels who looks Spanish to me, Roman Neudstadter who looks like he has some Italian or French blood.
Cristiano viejo
04-08-2015, 06:22 PM
All of them still look fairly German or Austrian to me. Wouldn't be surprised if they were Swiss, Hungarian, Polish or Danes. Exceptions being Mats Hummels who looks Spanish to me, Roman Neudstadter who looks like he has some Italian or French blood.
Unless you think Spaniards look extr-European, Hummels does not look Spanish at all. He looks some short of Turkish or something
Journeyman26
04-08-2015, 06:31 PM
Unless you think Spaniards look extr-European, Hummels does not look Spanish at all. He looks some short of Turkish or something
I dunno about Turkish. I mean, I dont think he has any non-German parents. He looks like a Spaniard to me, he is no darker than Fabregas, Busquets, Silva, or Cazorla from the Spanish National team. He isn't dark enough for a Turk, and his facial features are clearly European.
Cristiano viejo
04-08-2015, 06:54 PM
I dunno about Turkish. I mean, I dont think he has any non-German parents. He looks like a Spaniard to me, he is no darker than Fabregas, Busquets, Silva, or Cazorla from the Spanish National team. He isn't dark enough for a Turk, and his facial features are clearly European.
I am fully disagree, in all. Fábregas or Cazorla are not darker than Hummels (Silva is half Japanese and Busquets is Gypsy) and for me Hummels does have weird facial features, it is not only about dark skin.
blubb
04-08-2015, 06:58 PM
I dunno about Turkish. I mean, I dont think he has any non-German parents. He looks like a Spaniard to me, he is no darker than Fabregas, Busquets, Silva, or Cazorla from the Spanish National team. He isn't dark enough for a Turk, and his facial features are clearly European.
He's not blonde or light brunette, so he can impossibly be Spanish-looking according to the forum's Iberians ;)
Tooting Carmen
09-26-2016, 11:20 PM
Joachim Low again
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/14/19/2E6BE10500000578-3318695-Joachim_Low_says_his_Germany_side_were_scared_prio r_to_their_fri-a-37_1447527949844.jpg
LP0956
10-25-2016, 10:59 PM
Mats Hummels
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hummels.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Mats_hummels.jpg
Where does this guy pass?
Bloody
12-11-2016, 10:12 AM
LOL you're right.
hummels nose and facial structure is sharper, the mexican guy has a bit more roundish nose and face.
Bloody
12-11-2016, 10:12 AM
Where does this guy pass?
turkey and balkans.
Hoxhaism
12-11-2016, 10:17 AM
Where does this guy pass?
Berlin.
crazyladybutterfly
12-11-2016, 10:31 AM
they all pass in southern italy and many still look krauitish to me
barkoo
12-11-2016, 10:40 AM
Where does this guy pass?
France or Germany.
frdfgcg
04-16-2018, 08:03 AM
Julian Draxler
http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/3000/artikel/785961/800-1368292324.jpg
http://chelseablues.ru/_nw/406/69637684.jpg
https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/58/photos/897000/936x622/159897.jpg
Pure Mongoloid.
Many Germans are pure Mongoloid or have Mongoloid admixture.
Julian Nagelsmann, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Roman Neustädter etc.
Mainly Atlantids. Pass in Central Europe.
Tooting Carmen
05-01-2018, 02:52 PM
Kevin Trapp
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Kevin_Trapp_2017.jpg/220px-Kevin_Trapp_2017.jpg
Marvin Plattenhardt
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/marvin-plattenhardt-poses-during-the-fc-nuernberg-team-presentation-picture-id173334076
Sandro Wagner
http://mediadb.kicker.de/2018/fussball/spieler/xl/40133_14_2018112122341194.jpg
Lars Stindl
http://www.sportstotal.com/uploads/media/Stindl_Portrait_04.jpg
Mainly Atlantids. Pass in Central Europe.
quite a few there that have turkish/eastern blood aswell
Tooting Carmen
05-01-2018, 03:04 PM
quite a few there that have turkish/eastern blood aswell
Like whom?
Like whom?
Marvin Plattenhardt
Sandro Wagner
Lars Stindl
Mats Hummels
Julian Draxler
The only German looking ones to me are Ballack and Low, take a look at Sami Khedir and Mesut Ozil
Kateb
05-01-2018, 10:16 PM
southern europe and balkans
quite a few there that have turkish/eastern blood aswell
I know, that's why I said mainly.
Cristiano viejo
05-02-2018, 11:28 PM
Marvin Plattenhardt
Sandro Wagner
Lars Stindl
Mats Hummels
Julian Draxler
The only German looking ones to me are Ballack and Low, take a look at Sami Khedir and Mesut Ozil
SourceS?
abf - autist
05-02-2018, 11:32 PM
SourceS?
His ass. Mats Hummels is confirmed 100% ethnically German, f.e.
Marmara
05-02-2018, 11:55 PM
First three passes Turkish, latter four impossible.
Livin
05-03-2018, 12:00 AM
Hummels,draxler and trapp are original Germans.
SourceS?
Take a look at them, these guys are not full blooded Germans and probably have a parent or grandparent from elsewhere
Autrigón
05-04-2018, 07:06 AM
Take a look at them, these guys are not full blooded Germans and probably have a parent or grandparent from elsewhereI think all of them are 100% Germans, anyway I don't need to check their origins because I have known in my personal life Germans like them, you would be surprised that plenty of Germans can pass in mediterranean countries. People in this forum have an idealized and overrated vision about nordicism in Germany.
Tooting Carmen
08-07-2022, 05:35 PM
Missing photos:
Ulf Kirsten
https://alchetron.com/cdn/ulf-kirsten-db9cb259-b0b1-467f-be40-e44a5bb886a-resize-750.jpg
Kevin Volland
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Kevin-Volland-August2018.jpg
Lars Stindl
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/lars-stindl-1471521724-5899.jpg?lm=1483606119
Tooting Carmen
08-07-2022, 05:46 PM
New ones:
Kai Havertz
https://www.goal.pl/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/havertz-kai.jpg
Christian Gunter
https://img.bundesliga.com/tachyon/sites/2/2021/05/2021_MD18_SCFVFB_SH_0092-scaled.jpg?crop=0px,0px,2560px,1437px&fit=1140
Robin Koch
https://bulinews.com/i/640/3539.jpg
Florian Neuhaus
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article24307210.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_GettyImages-1321368662-1.jpg
Julian Weigl
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Julian_Weigl_6743.jpg/1024px-Julian_Weigl_6743.jpg
Volvado Seja
08-08-2022, 01:01 AM
Pass in Balkans
khanx34
01-03-2023, 06:12 PM
Mats Hummels
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hummels.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Mats_hummels.jpg
Roman Neustadter
http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/1100/9000/artikel/778018/800-1353426028.jpg http://u.goal.com/204200/204212hp2.jpg
Heiko Westermann
http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/30964/.jpg http://www.bz-berlin.de/multimedia/archive/00253/heiko-westermann-t_25391818.jpg
Tim Wiese
http://ais.badische-zeitung.de/piece/03/74/de/d1/57990865.jpg http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dfb-team/1007/Bilder/tim-wiese-514.jpg
Christian Trasch
http://www.history-of-soccer.org/image-files/trasch-for-box.jpg http://mediadb.kicker.de/2013/fussball/spieler/xl/39463_24_2012718143916572.jpg
Ulf Kirsten
http://celebpictu.com/images/ulf-kirsten-02.jpg http://www.bayer04.de/bilder//10_11/07_t580/Ulf-Kirsten_0707a.jpg
Michael Ballack
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/article-1279179699092-0a7099f6000005dc-995704_636x721.jpg http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/ballack_0.jpg
hummels bulgaria romania greece italia
neustadter bulgaria romania greece italia
Heiko Westermann hungary serbia romania
Tim Wiese italia france
Trasch austria
Ballack east europe, ukraine, tatar
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