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Hungarian_master
02-27-2014, 07:08 PM
http://www.hir24.hu/Root/Shared/Pictures/2013/02/03/Pal-Denes.jpg
http://www.blikk.hu/data/cikk/2/12/83/45/cikk_2128345/denes4_blikk_allo.jpg
http://voice.hu/data/files/345/345686.w.jpg

Hungarian_master
02-28-2014, 08:13 AM
I don't know. He Atlantid?

fenix978
02-28-2014, 08:24 AM
Basically Pontid + a bit of CM but strange somehow. I looks like he has some Jewish/Middle-Eastern or other Asiatic admixture, maybe Armenoid or Iranid!? :noidea:

http://www.hvtv.hu/files/images/2843.jpg?1362389742

http://188.227.227.58/image/article/main/.660x1200/67682.jpg?lavid=161077

http://www.miskolc.hu/sites/default/files/imagecache/normal_780x/vezerkep/pal_denes_130130_ja_33_0.jpg

blogen
02-28-2014, 09:00 AM
Typical Caspian type. 2,5 % between the Hungarians and this type may be familiar from Turkmenistan, Iran or Azerbaijan.

http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p472064/hungar1.jpg

fenix978
02-28-2014, 09:04 AM
Typical Caspian type. 2,5 % between the Hungarians and this type may be familiar from Turkmenistan, Iran or Azerbaijan.

http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p472064/hungar1.jpg


So I was right? :cool:

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#CASPID


CASPID

= East-Mediterranid, as applied by e.g. Lundman to a large number of dolichocephalic brunet types, including Pontid and Indid.


btw. I would say that this guy would fit well in Georgia, Armenia and other parts of Caucasus.

fenix978
02-28-2014, 09:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_race

Caspian race
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Caspian race is a term historically used in scientific racism as one of the sub-races of the Caucasian race.[1][2] The term was popular in the early 20th century. The Caspian subtype is considered as a branch of the Mediterranean race or Iranid race.[3]

The Caspian race corresponds to the other ancient ethnic formation of the southeast, which is represented in the present Tats and Azerbaijanis whose ethnic type is subjected to essential linguist changes.[4]

The phenotype is prevalent to the following ethnicities: Lezgin, Rutuls, Tabasarans and Tsakhurs.[5][6] As a form of racial admixture, Caspian subtype represented among; Azerbaijanis, Kumuks, Kurds, Turkmens and Talyshs.[7][3]

Zmey Gorynych
02-28-2014, 09:20 AM
Pontid or Nordpontid with Aralid (a Turanid type) admixture.

blogen
02-28-2014, 09:30 AM
Pontid or Nordpontid with Aralid (a Turanid type) admixture.

The guy is clear Caucasoid, his cheekbone is rounded.

Sarmatian
02-28-2014, 09:30 AM
btw. I would say that this guy would fit well in Georgia, Armenia and other parts of Caucasus.

This guy will never fit in Georgia nor Armenia as they don't have that Turanid admixture in them. Can only be Azeri.

Zmey Gorynych
02-28-2014, 09:34 AM
The guy is clear Caucasoid, his cheekbone is rounded.
Predominantly caucasoid ? Yes! Entirely caucasoid !? No ! In Europe only Lapids and Turanids have this kind of cheekbones, the mongoloid element can be noticed in his eyes too.

http://188.227.227.58/image/article/main/.660x1200/67682.jpg?lavid=161077

http://www.miskolc.hu/sites/default/files/imagecache/normal_780x/vezerkep/pal_denes_130130_ja_33_0.jpg

fenix978
02-28-2014, 09:35 AM
This guy will never fit in Georgia nor Armenia as they don't have that Turanid admixture in them. Can only be Azeri.


But he doesn't look Mongoloid.

Zmey Gorynych
02-28-2014, 09:36 AM
This guy will never fit in Georgia nor Armenia as they don't have that Turanid admixture in them. Can only be Azeri.
Exactly, his peculiar look is a central asiatic one rather than caucasian (Caucasus).

blogen
02-28-2014, 09:44 AM
Predominantly caucasoid ? Yes! Entirely caucasoid !? No ! In Europe only Lapids and Turanids have this kind of cheekbones, the mongoloid element can be noticed in his eyes too.

Sorry, but his cheekbone is horizontally wide, but not vertically flat. This is a clear Caucasoid cheekbone. And if somebody has Caucasoid cheekbone, then his ancestors never mixed with Mongoloids. All of the Mongoloid descendants have flat cheekbone.

The Turkmen Kurban Berdiyev is a Mongolo-Caspian for example with flat cheekbone:
http://lent.az/photo/kurban-berdiyev-metb.jpg

And Dénes Pál's eyes is almond shape. Average Mediterranid eyes and the Caspian is an Oriental Mediterranid subtype.

Sarmatian
02-28-2014, 12:50 PM
But he doesn't look Mongoloid.

He looks like a gracile North Pontid with admix of Central Asian (as Turanid influenced) variation of robust Iranid.

So his phenotype is made as follows:

Pontid or North Pontid - a major component
Iranid - obvious admix making some of his features robust, presence of this component makes it pretty much impossible to determine whether the main one is Pontid or North Pontid
Turanid - not really a well presented component but rather a tendency in some of his features that makes them look odd for either of the two main components, such thing is common in Iranids of Central Asia

Not a Cop
02-28-2014, 02:03 PM
Pontid or Nordpontid with Aralid (a Turanid type) admixture.

Remember guy i posted, who is 1/4 korean? Looks similar to him, but with not so flat face

Cern
02-28-2014, 03:40 PM
Looks Clive Owen.

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/262361.jpg

Hungarian_master
02-21-2015, 04:21 PM
Bump!

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2015, 11:38 AM
Dinarid-CM mix?

Hungarian_master
03-13-2015, 11:41 AM
Dinarid-CM mix?

No, because he have long head.
http://thevoice.ma/wp-content/thevoice/kepek/2013/01/palveres1.jpg

Proto-Shaman
03-14-2015, 12:38 AM
He looks like a gracile North Pontid with admix of Central Asian (as Turanid influenced) variation of robust Iranid.

So his phenotype is made as follows:

Pontid or North Pontid - a major component
Iranid - obvious admix making some of his features robust, presence of this component makes it pretty much impossible to determine whether the main one is Pontid or North Pontid
Turanid - not really a well presented component but rather a tendency in some of his features that makes them look odd for either of the two main components, such thing is common in Iranids of Central Asia

+1

Proto-Shaman
03-14-2015, 12:49 AM
looks Scythian btw..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/P%C3%A1l_D%C3%A9nes_2014.JPG

a living fossil..