56 Ethnicities of China

[Loki]

http://youtu.be/kUrLAFXAB3k

[GrebluBro]

India outnumber them..


I respect China for uniting these many ethnicities and make them work together to make their country more prosperous.

India isn't doing this well..

Many Indians identify with their ethnicity first, 'Indian' comes second only

It's well-known ethnicity & languages are highly related

Individual mother tongues in India number several hundreds;[10] the 1961 census recognized 1,652.
According to Census of India of 2001, 30 languages are spoken by more than a million native speakers, 122 by more than 10,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India

[zhaoyun]

India outnumber them

It's because China has been a nation state for 2000 years. Actually China is by far the oldest nation state, so it's assimilated most of its ethnicities to the Han Chinese (who are still very different from each other to this day) as a general majority.

[Loki]

Yes, but most Indian ethnicities look roughly similar, save for some small tribes. In China, you have Caucasoids and Mongoloids.

[GrebluBro]

It's because China has been a nation state for 2000 years. Actually China is by far the oldest nation state, so it's assimilated most of its ethnicities to the Han Chinese (who are still very different from each other to this day) as a general majority.

Most of present India was always together as you can see in following empire maps (2300 years covered including British who added South India in the end)

Most of South India was never a part of India until British took over..



http://www.mitchellteachers.org/WorldHistory/IndiaUnit/images/ashoka/MauryanEmpireMaplarge.jpg
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/ralimage/map5asho.jpg
http://www.mitchellteachers.org/WorldHistory/IndiaUnit/Transparencies/MapofGuptaEmpireTrans.jpghttp://www.paradoxplace.com/Insights/Civilizations/Mughals/Mughal_Images/Mughal%20Empire%20BR.jpg

[zhaoyun]

Yes, but most Indian ethnicities look roughly similar, save for some small tribes. In China, you have Caucasoids and Mongoloids.

Actually, I think there is much more physical/cultural variety in India than in China. Historically India has not been one state, and there has been more different mixes. There is caucasoid, australoid, mongoloid and even negroid (Andaman islands) in India. China is primarily just East Asian Mongoloid and a few small Caucasoid and Malay looking minorities.

[Loki]

It's because China has been a nation state for 2000 years. Actually China is by far the oldest nation state, so it's assimilated most of its ethnicities to the Han Chinese (who are still very different from each other to this day) as a general majority.

China also has the oldest language and the oldest writing, still in existence after thousands of years.

[zhaoyun]

China also has the oldest language and the oldest writing, still in existence after thousands of years.

Yeah, that's one thing that as a Chinese, I take a lot of pride in. China was a great advanced empire during the Roman times, and today, its still a great empire and rising as a superpower. It's quite amazing when you think about how many other empires have collapsed and have gone and China is still here.

[Loki]

Yeah, that's one thing that as a Chinese, I take a lot of pride in. China was a great advanced empire during the Roman times, and today, its still a great empire and rising as a superpower. It's quite amazing when you think about how many other empires have collapsed and have gone and China is still here.

Chinese civilization also developed independently from the Fertile Crescent.

[Kiyant]

Yeah, that's one thing that as a Chinese, I take a lot of pride in. China was a great advanced empire during the Roman times, and today, its still a great empire and rising as a superpower. It's quite amazing when you think about how many other empires have collapsed and have gone and China is still here.

China is such a big country with so many humans and such a great history of since and culture so why could people like the Mongolians/Uyghur/Manchu and Göktürks (basically few steppe nomads) conquer them?

[GrebluBro]

China also has the oldest language and the oldest writing, still in existence after thousands of years.

I agree..
India' oldest surviving language is Tamil..It is, along with Chinese, one of top 7 oldest surviving languages in the world
But the speakers are just 6% of India, so most Indians don't give a damn.

[haidian]

India has more ethnic variety hands down.Because of its location,I guess. situated at the crossroad between the east and the west.

[zhaoyun]

China is such a big country with so many humans and such a great history of since and culture so why could people like the Mongolians/Uyghur/Manchu and Göktürks (basically few steppe nomads) conquer them?

Well, there were also times that China conquered the steppe nomads. It was not one way. But the steppe nomads, WHEN they did conquer China, usually did so during a time of political weakness, and because they were very skilled in their military techniques, and they also were very warlike. Chinese people who are sedentary, historically were quite peaceful and geared towards commerce and education, not towards warlike activities.

[RussiaPrussia]

Yes, but most Indian ethnicities look roughly similar, save for some small tribes. In China, you have Caucasoids and Mongoloids.

thats true even caucasians are potrayed in their 2 yuan bill

http://katzenmeier.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/img_0322-two.jpg

and other ethnicities
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Yuan_collection.jpg

[zhaoyun]

China also has the oldest language and the oldest writing, still in existence after thousands of years.

Honestly, sometimes when I see all this infighting amongst the general races of the West, White, Black, Hispanics, etc, I'm kind of glad that China evolved as a seperate civilization that is apart from the other civilizations. We have our own standards, our own civilization.

[zhaoyun]

thats true even caucasians are potrayed in their 2 yuan bill

http://katzenmeier.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/img_0322-two.jpg

and other ethnicities
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Yuan_collection.jpg

China is very different from Korea or Japan, who are very homogeneous and exclusive. Japanese and Koreans are always trying to find reasons to exclude others from their identity. Chinese, on the other hand, are very assimilationist, they have always tried to find commonalities to convince their minorities they are Chinese. That's how China got to become so big and united so many different groups of people under one identity.

[YeshAtid]

To what extent are minorities in China sinicized? From what I have read of minorities living in China the CCP gives them a surprisingly high level of autonomy. The Han nationality is often perceived as an umbrella term, encompassing different phenotypes and cultural outlets. If that is the case then there's no real source of incompatibility between the two.

[zhaoyun]

To what extent are minorities in China sinicized? From what I have read of minorities living in China the CCP gives them a surprisingly high level of autonomy. The Han nationality is often perceived as an umbrella term, encompassing different phenotypes and cultural outlets. If that is the case then there's no real source of incompatibility between the two.

Thats pretty accurate. Many minorities do have a good deal of autonomy. Also the Han Chinese label is very superfluous. in reality, many of the Hans in different parts of the country have more in common with the minorities they are next to than Han chinese on the other side. its just an umbrella term.

[Methmatician]

It's because China has been a nation state for 2000 years. Actually China is by far the oldest nation state, so it's assimilated most of its ethnicities to the Han Chinese (who are still very different from each other to this day) as a general majority.
Also, Indian state is a British invention AFAIK.

[Goujian]

Well, there were also times that China conquered the steppe nomads. It was not one way. But the steppe nomads, WHEN they did conquer China, usually did so during a time of political weakness, and because they were very skilled in their military techniques, and they also were very warlike. Chinese people who are sedentary, historically were quite peaceful and geared towards commerce and education, not towards warlike activities.

The Jurchens were semi-sedentary agriculturalists who adopted steppe warfare. Their ancestors the Mohe people were not described as nomadic but were actually farmers who grew sorghum, soybeans, millet and rice and raised pigs and dogs. Their Jurchen descendants later bred horses, oxen and sheep. At best they can be described as semi-nomadic agriculturalists at the time. Then they led a pastoral-agrarian lifestyle, hunting, fishing, and engaging in limited agriculture. The Jurchens emphasised their relatedness with the Mongols for political reasons out of pragmatism and opportunism.

Also the majority of Chinese were not forced to adopt Manchu clothing. Only government officials were banned from wearing hanfu. The rest of the population adopted the clothing from emulating what the elites wore.

[StonyArabia]

Actually, I think there is much more physical/cultural variety in India than in China. Historically India has not been one state, and there has been more different mixes. There is caucasoid, australoid, mongoloid and even negroid (Andaman islands) in India. China is primarily just East Asian Mongoloid and a few small Caucasoid and Malay looking minorities.

Andamanese are not Negroid their Australoids and are quite distinct from Africans genetically despite the physical similarity.

[Drawing-slim]

How are Taiwanese people viewed in China and all over Asia in general??!

[zhaoyun]

How are Taiwanese people viewed in China and all over Asia in general??!

They are Han Chinese ethnically. In Mainland China, they are viewed as rebellious children. In the rest of Asia, I guess they are seen as pretty well off.

[Pongi]

Naming all these ethnicities chinese is like naming everyone russian in the Russian Federation.

[Mikula]

China is very different from Korea or Japan, who are very homogeneous and exclusive. Japanese and Koreans are always trying to find reasons to exclude others from their identity. Chinese, on the other hand, are very assimilationist, they have always tried to find commonalities to convince their minorities they are Chinese. That's how China got to become so big and united so many different groups of people under one identity.

And which ethnicity is portrayed at the 2 yuan bill, please?

[Böri]

And which ethnicity is portrayed at the 2 yuan bill, please?

Turkic Uighurs from far west China. Many of them look clear cut different than East Asians but China flood area with Han Chinese, Uighurs are now minorities in their own lands.
In China the Total of 55 ethnicities are %5 of total population, Han Chinese are %95

[Loki]

Andamanese are not Negroid their Australoids and are quite distinct from Africans genetically despite the physical similarity.

I think they're not even Australoid. They're pre-Australoid.

[ЛыSSый]

wp mode on: same shit different cover

[Mingle]

China is such a big country with so many humans and such a great history of since and culture so why could people like the Mongolians/Uyghur/Manchu and Göktürks (basically few steppe nomads) conquer them?

In the case of Mongols and Manchus, they conquered China with the help of Han defectors. Uyghurs and Gokturks never conquered China. Btw, the Tran Dynasty was never conquered by the Mongols. The Tran Dynasty was a dynasty in Vietnam founded by Han migrants from Fujian.

[Mingle]

Most of present India was always together as you can see in following empire maps (2300 years covered including British who added South India in the end)

Most of South India was never a part of India until British took over..



http://www.mitchellteachers.org/WorldHistory/IndiaUnit/images/ashoka/MauryanEmpireMaplarge.jpg
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/ralimage/map5asho.jpg
http://www.mitchellteachers.org/WorldHistory/IndiaUnit/Transparencies/MapofGuptaEmpireTrans.jpghttp://www.paradoxplace.com/Insights/Civilizations/Mughals/Mughal_Images/Mughal%20Empire%20BR.jpg

The Mauryan Empire didn't even last 200 years. India was divided for most of it's history until the British artificially united it and then added some non-Indic lands to it.