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GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 10:58 AM
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Click the pic to zoom in to get better view



http://s23.postimg.org/7s24zeazf/football_soccer_133077_1024_768.jpg

I added Coach as well..

I say 7/24

Player numbers:
7, 9, 10, 11, 20, 22, 23 => Majority agreed with this in one way or another in later posts



Your post your opinion

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 11:24 AM
bump

The King, I am
03-02-2014, 11:55 AM
they all pass

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 01:25 PM
they all pass

As atypical, yes..=> Argentina is 97% White :laugh:

Please think about typical phenotype and choose the players => only 65% White

The King, I am
03-02-2014, 01:27 PM
As atypical, yes..=> Argentina is 97% White :laugh:

Please think about typical phenotype and choose the players => only 65% White

They all pass in Spain imo :/ some dark some not so much

Brighton
03-02-2014, 01:44 PM
As atypical, yes..=> Argentina is 97% White
That's not true at all..

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 02:47 PM
That's not true at all..

Obviously..

But when intermixing happens a lot in Argentina, Euro-looking population will increase a lot.

65% Argentines look Euro, Non-Euro looking people got 50-85% Euro genes
=> if no immigration happens it would reach 80+ % (of course 40% pure Euro will diminish) cuz "pure Euro + Castiza = Euro-looking child"

Damiăo de Góis
03-02-2014, 03:20 PM
Number 20 also looks too native to pass.

Proctor
03-02-2014, 03:23 PM
That's not true at all..

Argentina is whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 03:34 PM
Argentina is whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

Actually more Euro (using phenotype not genotype) than the US :lol:

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 03:36 PM
Number 20 also looks too native to pass.

You say 7/24

Player numbers:
7, 9, 10, 11, 20, 22, 23

TheBlondeSalad
03-02-2014, 03:38 PM
Javier Saviola (number 7), Hernan Crespo (number 9), Juan Riquelme (number 10), Carlos Tevez (number 11), Julio Cruz (number 20), Lucho Gonzalez (number 22) and Oscar Ustari (number 23) look somewhat mixed.

Smaug
03-02-2014, 03:43 PM
1,2,3,4,9,19,20,22 and 23 can't pass.

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 03:43 PM
Javier Saviola (number 7), Hernan Crespo (number 9), Juan Riquelme (number 10), Carlos Tevez (number 11), Julio Cruz (number 20), Lucho Gonzalez (number 22) and Oscar Ustari (number 23) look somewhat mixed.

We share the same opinion :thumb001:

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 03:45 PM
1,2,3,4,9,19,20,22 and 23 can't pass.
:picard1:

Did I ask you for Scandinavia alone? :laugh:

If they can't pass, half of Italians are not White

Smaug
03-02-2014, 03:46 PM
:picard1:

Did I ask you for Scandinavia alone? :laugh:

If they can't pass, half of Italians are not White

They look mixed, can't pass anywhere in Europe.

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 04:12 PM
^each to their own.

Armando Esteban Quito
03-02-2014, 04:15 PM
They can all pass





the ball... :thumb001:

Sikeliot
03-02-2014, 04:24 PM
The ones who CANNOT pass:

7, 10, 18, 20, 22, 23

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 04:30 PM
The ones who CANNOT pass:

7, 10, 18, 20, 22, 23

This is where we differ
you say 9 & 11 can pass, but 18 can't..

Ibericus
03-02-2014, 04:31 PM
Only a few can pass in Iberia as natives to me...

Brighton
03-02-2014, 04:33 PM
Argentina is whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
Hahaha it's the 2nd whitest country in Latin America, but not like OMG 97% WHITEEEEEE

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:02 PM
They can all pass


the ball... :thumb001:

:P

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:03 PM
Hahaha it's the 2nd whitest country in Latin America, but not like OMG 97% WHITEEEEEE

Looking at the players make people think Argentina is one of the Whitest top-ranked soccer team in the World

MissProvocateur
03-02-2014, 05:06 PM
5-12-13-14-16-17-19 Would pass. The coach would pass.

Don't know about the others.

MissProvocateur
03-02-2014, 05:08 PM
Looking at the players make people think Argentina is one of the Whitest top-ranked soccer team in the World

You have the remember that soccer players are often coming from poor backgrounds. In Argentina (and Lain America) Those with the poorer backgrounds tend to be more admixed.

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:13 PM
You have the remember that soccer players are often coming from poor backgrounds. In Argentina (and Lain America) Those with the poorer backgrounds tend to be more admixed.

Most members would agree only 7/23 or 1/3rd of the team can't pass in Europe (the numbers you failed to add below can pass in South Italy or Balkan or somewhere cuz they look Euro)..

I also knew poor players get into Soccer team at higher rate => should we assume more than 2/3rd of Argentines can pass in Europe?



5-12-13-14-16-17-19 Would pass. The coach would pass.

Don't know about the others.

It seems you neglected many southern Euro phenotype here...Fine!

MissProvocateur
03-02-2014, 05:14 PM
Most members would agree only 7/23 or 1/3rd of the team can't pass in Europe (the numbers you failed to add below can pass in South Italy or Balkan or somewhere cuz they look Euro)..

I also knew poor players get into Soccer team at higher rate => should we assume more than 2/3rd of Argentines can pass in Europe?



It seems you neglected many southern Euro phenotype here...Fine!

I meant as a first glance, a few more may pass, but I really didn't look at them that much.

BrunetteAnna
03-02-2014, 05:21 PM
2,3,10,11,16,17,20,22 and the coach of course
Im not sure bout the others..

brazuca
03-02-2014, 05:24 PM
Looking at the players make people think Argentina is one of the Whitest top-ranked soccer team in the World

FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER!!!!!!:mad:

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:27 PM
2,3,10,11,16,17,20,22 and the coach of course
Im not sure bout the others..

What do you mean?
These people can't pass just in Albania?

How come the player-16 can't pass in Europe?

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:31 PM
I meant as a first glance, a few more may pass, but I really didn't look at them that much.

Well the players 5-12-13-14-16-17-19 got unmistakable common light featured phenotype => no one would say they won't pass...
There are other players who got dark features and their phenotype is not very common but not rare either particularly in Southern Europe or Balkan..

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 05:32 PM
FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER!!!!!!:mad:

Sorry, I always intend to use 'Football' in this forum after some TA members warned me..Sometimes, I use 'Soccer' by mistake :P

brazuca
03-02-2014, 05:45 PM
Sorry, I always intend to use 'Football' in this forum after some TA members warned me..Sometimes, I use 'Soccer' by mistake :P

"american eggball" is not football!

Alenka
03-02-2014, 06:05 PM
All pass.

Brighton
03-02-2014, 06:12 PM
Looking at the players make people think Argentina is one of the Whitest top-ranked soccer team in the World
Because immigrants in Argentina (Bolivians, Peruvians, Paraguayans) suck at football.

Actually, look at the World Cup Qualifiers

STANDINGS
Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
Argentina 16 9 5 2 35 15 32
Colombia 16 9 3 4 27 13 30
Chile 16 9 1 6 29 25 28
Ecuador 16 7 4 5 20 16 25
Uruguay 16 7 4 5 25 25 25
Venezuela 16 5 5 6 14 20 20
Peru 16 4 3 9 17 26 15
Bolivia 16 2 6 8 17 30 12
Paraguay 16 3 3 10 17 31 12

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On the other hand, Black and Arab immigrants in France, or Black in the UK, tend to be very good players..

If Argentina had immigrants who are good at football its football team wouldn't be that "Argentinian"..

My point is that even if the football team seems Whiter than the European ones, that doesn't mean the country is Whiter, but rather that its immigrants are simply awful at football :lol:

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 06:27 PM
If Argentina had immigrants who are good at football its football team wouldn't be that "Argentinian"..


Dude most Argentines and others believe Whites are underrepresented in soccer team cuz poor people get into the team at higher rate.

I'm not interested in comparing Whiteness of various soccer teams here, I just wanna know about Argentine team phenotype..

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 07:36 PM
bump

Brighton
03-02-2014, 07:47 PM
Dude most Argentines and others believe Whites are underrepresented in soccer team cuz poor people get into the team at higher rate.

I'm not interested in comparing Whiteness of various soccer teams here, I just wanna know about Argentine team phenotype..
I'm not saying that Argentina is not 97% White at all, as you said. Ask any Argentinean for fuck's sake, they're gonna tell you the same.

Peace out

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 07:50 PM
I'm not saying that Argentina is not 97% White at all, as you said. Ask any Argentinean for fuck's sake, they're gonna tell you the same.

Peace out

LOL...I always claim 65% ...I mocked at other guy who said all players can pass in Europe..so I told him 97% (of course bullshit) as per Wiki.

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 07:58 PM
//

He said 1,2,3,4 players can't pass in Europe => I indirectly claimed they ofc can since 50% of Italians look like them..

You disagree?

GrebluBro
03-02-2014, 08:01 PM
///

:laugh:

Argentano
03-02-2014, 08:55 PM
1,2,3,4,9,19,20,22 and 23 can't pass.

mm are you sure this ones cant pass?

1 Abondanzzieri

http://blogs.20minutos.es/quefuede/files/2013/11/abbondanzieri.jpg

2 Coloccini

http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/145803/article_db3cb8825a6adc97_1357911637_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

19 Messi

http://www.larazon.com.ar/deportes/OJALA-AMERICA-DIJO-BATISTA-MESSI_IECIMA20110630_0065_7.jpg

Argentano
03-02-2014, 09:04 PM
5-12-13-14-16-17-19 Would pass. The coach would pass.

Don't know about the others.

HAHA gabriel milito wouldnt pass?common people

http://www.vootar.com/imgs/elementos/1282663498_GabrielMilito.jpg

Mascherano?

http://img01.lavanguardia.com/2012/02/06/Javier-Mascherano-en-rueda-de-_54250610939_53389389549_600_396.jpg

Argentano
03-02-2014, 09:07 PM
You have the remember that soccer players are often coming from poor backgrounds. In Argentina (and Lain America) Those with the poorer backgrounds tend to be more admixed.

this..

riquelme, tevez(el negro) and cruz (el jardinero)are from the slums..

the team is motly low class and low middle class people

Argentano
03-02-2014, 09:13 PM
2,3,10,11,16,17,20,22 and the coach of course
Im not sure bout the others..

the coach cant pass?

jose pekerman

http://pagina95.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/jose-pekerman.jpg


and aimar?

http://www.ceroacero.es/img/jogadores/45/10445_ori_pablo_aimar.jpg

Argentano
03-02-2014, 09:22 PM
IMO this ones cant pass for sure

7,10,11,20,22,23

and this ones are borderline .i think people woudlnt notice unless they knew they were south american

2,3,,9,18

Argentano
03-02-2014, 09:36 PM
Because immigrants in Argentina (Bolivians, Peruvians, Paraguayans) suck at football.

Actually, look at the World Cup Qualifiers

STANDINGS
Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
Argentina 16 9 5 2 35 15 32
Colombia 16 9 3 4 27 13 30
Chile 16 9 1 6 29 25 28
Ecuador 16 7 4 5 20 16 25
Uruguay 16 7 4 5 25 25 25
Venezuela 16 5 5 6 14 20 20
Peru 16 4 3 9 17 26 15
Bolivia 16 2 6 8 17 30 12
Paraguay 16 3 3 10 17 31 12

--

On the other hand, Black and Arab immigrants in France, or Black in the UK, tend to be very good players..

If Argentina had immigrants who are good at football its football team wouldn't be that "Argentinian"..

My point is that even if the football team seems Whiter than the European ones, that doesn't mean the country is Whiter, but rather that its immigrants are simply awful at football :lol:

Foreigners in argentina are just 4.5% of the population...they wouldnt be represented in this sample even if they were brazilians

http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/extranjeros-llego-ultimos-anos_0_729527095.html

Smaug
03-02-2014, 10:02 PM
mm are you sure this ones cant pass?

1 Abondanzzieri

http://blogs.20minutos.es/quefuede/files/2013/11/abbondanzieri.jpg

2 Coloccini

http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/145803/article_db3cb8825a6adc97_1357911637_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

19 Messi

http://www.larazon.com.ar/deportes/OJALA-AMERICA-DIJO-BATISTA-MESSI_IECIMA20110630_0065_7.jpg

Yes, mainly Messi.

Argentano
03-02-2014, 11:03 PM
Yes, mainly Messi.

Coloccini was classified here in the site

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113062-Please-classify-Fabricio-Coloccini-Argentine-of-italian-ancestry

nobody saw anythig non european in him...

Armando Esteban Quito
03-02-2014, 11:08 PM
Coloccini was classified here in the site

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113062-Please-classify-Fabricio-Coloccini-Argentine-of-italian-ancestry

nobody saw anythig non european in him...

Of course all of the players you listed can pass. People just have a hard time admitting it since they are often too biased.

Arijanit
03-02-2014, 11:09 PM
Considering Spain is in Europe, all of them pass. :P

Dombra
03-02-2014, 11:13 PM
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Argentina+is+White_09cadf_4640437.jpg

Dombra
03-02-2014, 11:14 PM
Considering Spain is in Europe, all of them pass. :P

I beg to differ :....

Arijanit
03-02-2014, 11:30 PM
I beg to differ :....
wat

Dombra
03-02-2014, 11:34 PM
wat

Africa begins south of the Pyrenees :icon_whisper:

Roy
03-02-2014, 11:50 PM
About 1/3 looks mixed at least.

Peyrol
03-02-2014, 11:54 PM
The whitest south american football team is the uruguayan team


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVo3OHTs9Vk

Argentano
03-03-2014, 12:07 AM
The whitest south american football team is the uruguayan team


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVo3OHTs9Vk

Uruguay is very similar toArgentina...i think some of you are biased towards uruguay

http://www.fiesta.fm/FM/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/SELECCION-Uruguay.jpg

alvaro pereyra, maxi pereyra, luis suarez and martin caceres look mixed..that is 36% of the team

anyway, just like in argentine sample, football is representative of low class and low middle class..

Argentano
03-03-2014, 03:28 AM
Of course all of the players you listed can pass. People just have a hard time admitting it since they are often too biased.

yeah i know but..

dejame de joder...Milito, Pekerman y Coloccini? son ciegos hermano

Steve-O
03-03-2014, 03:31 AM
10, 20 and 23

aherne
03-03-2014, 05:40 AM
Considering Spain is in Europe, all of them pass. :P

Absolutely not. A good number are Mestizos and Castizos. Others look Italian rather than Spanish. Argentina is not Mexico: White people there are not always Spanish!

GrebluBro
03-03-2014, 06:14 AM
IMO this ones cant pass for sure

7,10,11,20,22,23

and this ones are borderline .i think people woudlnt notice unless they knew they were south american

2,3,,9,18

Yours posts are not biased at all in this thread..

I believe 2 & 3 looks full Euro...I think player-3 is part/full Jewish (doesn't matter)

May be player-18 is borderline..

player-9 doesn't look full Euro to me

We agree with these:
7,10,11,20,22,23

Argentano
03-03-2014, 06:25 AM
Yours posts are not biased at all in this thread..

I believe 2 & 3 looks full Euro...I think player-3 is part/full Jewish (doesn't matter)

May be player-18 is borderline..

yeah..the thing is that as fufuangeli (who is from uruguay ,Argentinas twin) said, fotball teams in south america represent low class and low middle class...i dont expect all of them to look 100% euro.......

Nr 3 is juan pablo sorin...a closer pic..what do u say?

http://7d845e7825fff27b928c-08c7e9a7cc2819f49d2692921b6d065e.r98.cf1.rackcdn.c om/images//m14007_crop161004_1024x640_13505314905996.jpg

GrebluBro
03-03-2014, 06:37 AM
yeah..the thing is that as fufuangeli (who is from uruguay ,Argentinas twin) said, fotball teams in south america represent low class and low middle class...i dont expect all of them to look 100% euro.......

Nr 3 is juan pablo sorin...a closer pic..what do u say?

http://7d845e7825fff27b928c-08c7e9a7cc2819f49d2692921b6d065e.r98.cf1.rackcdn.c om/images//m14007_crop161004_1024x640_13505314905996.jpg

Please check my edited comment b4...

His eyebrow confuse us..I still believe he can pass in South Italy or South Spain or Greece

This guy is Jewish (Sephardic?)

Jews are White to me...
http://www.unomasuno.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/juan-.jpghttp://www.telegraphindia.com/1120207/images/7sposoringetty.jpghttp://estaticos.sport.es/resources/jpg/0/2/1364835141720.jpg

Argentano
03-03-2014, 06:50 AM
Please check my edited comment b4...

His eyebrow confuse us..I still believe he can pass in South Italy or South Spain or Greece

This guy is Jewish (Sephardic?)

Jews are White to me...
http://www.unomasuno.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/juan-.jpghttp://www.telegraphindia.com/1120207/images/7sposoringetty.jpghttp://estaticos.sport.es/resources/jpg/0/2/1364835141720.jpg

yeah he probably passes...

this is his father

http://www.pattmontesinos.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/jaime-sor%C3%ADn.jpg

brazuca
03-03-2014, 04:38 PM
yeah..the thing is that as fufuangeli (who is from uruguay ,Argentinas twin) said, fotball teams in south america represent low class and low middle class...i dont expect all of them to look 100% euro.......

Nr 3 is juan pablo sorin...a closer pic..what do u say?

http://7d845e7825fff27b928c-08c7e9a7cc2819f49d2692921b6d065e.r98.cf1.rackcdn.c om/images//m14007_crop161004_1024x640_13505314905996.jpg

lol then explains to me how half of Brazilians players are black?

B01AB20
03-03-2014, 04:55 PM
pictures are no good, I have seen this kind of official national teams pictures before, people looks very ugly and strange... I remember one of a olimpic lithuanian team and almost all of them looked like disfigured mosnters.

Anyway I see the amerindian in...

7,9,10,11,19,20(chino?),22 and 23.

GrebluBro
03-03-2014, 04:58 PM
Anyway I see the amerindian in...

7,9,10,11,19,20(chino?),22 and 23.

Majority agree with these players except for Messi (19)..

Messi is White and faced dwarfism when he was too young

All look-alikes are pure Europeans, so is he :thumb001:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3983332608/h77D66527/
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4803843840/h6646A9E5/https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3917896448/h0C6EADDE/

Mitchel Mussohttp://cdn1.cdnme.se/cdn/7-1/2814134/images/2012/lookalikes3_184920609.jpg

B01AB20
03-03-2014, 10:17 PM
maybe I'm biased with messi, I've seen pictures of his family and it's clear they have a lot of indian; in messi sometimes I see it and sometimes no, depends on the picture and the in the picture of the argentine team you posted he has amerindian eyes.

he's harnizo/castizo I guess, mostly white but with some amerindian trait that appears from time to time.

and one more thing, being white in america is about whatever you want man, but being european in europe is about genes and blood, not about where you can pass or not or some similar idiocy.

Lemonhead
03-04-2014, 02:39 AM
Only 10,11,20, 22, and 23 look mixed. People on this site are biased against South Americans.

GrebluBro
03-04-2014, 11:06 AM
Only 10,11,20, 22, and 23 look mixed. People on this site are biased against South Americans.

ofc...