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arcticwolf
03-03-2014, 01:15 AM
I don't mean physical survival, will to live or propagation of species, I mean beautiful things that make all the mundane effort and the drudgery of everyday life seem worthwhile.

To me the feeling of love is one of those things, and I do not mean so called romantic love, I mean the pure kind of love that has no base in selfishness.

The feeling of amazement, and wonder you get seeing things like sunset are worth mentioning.

The feeling you get when you do something good for someone in need that makes them smile.

Ok, let's see what you can do.

So what makes it worthwhile for you to get up in the morning and keep going?

If you are stupid, don't post here please! :thumb001:

zhaoyun
03-03-2014, 01:20 AM
Getting up every day and expecting that I will have my desires and only my desires satisfied and indulged.

Virtuous
03-03-2014, 01:24 AM
Something worth living for is to witness and preserve the beauty of Nature, but that is being taken away from us due to our Urban hectic lives and selfish consumerist mentality. We lost that connection with Nature. Other than that I would say is indulging in one's favourite hobby (perhaps something in crafts) and trying to discover the secrets of the Universe, testing our limits with Sports, helping one's community, finding a companion to make a family with, basically the Traditional way of life.

TheBlondeSalad
03-03-2014, 01:25 AM
The fact that I only get one chance at it.

Life in itself is beautiful. It's a miracle of nature, and you only get one shot - that's what keeps me going even on days when I don't feel like doing anything.

Smaug
03-03-2014, 01:29 AM
Nothing, but it's all we've got.

Comte Arnau
03-03-2014, 01:31 AM
Getting up at the smell of good coffee, a hot shower, learning something new, teaching something new, watching a new landscape, embracing that warm loved body for the first time again, and then posting your nth post in the Apricity. :writing_thinking:

wvwvw
03-03-2014, 01:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyfu_mU-dmo

:D

Here I go out to sea again
The sunshine fills my hair
And dreams hang in the air

Gulls in the sky and in my blue eyes
You know it feels unfair
There's magic everywhere

Look at me standing
Here on my own again
Up straight in the sunshine

No need to run and hide
It's a wonderful, wonderful life
No need to laugh and cry
It's a wonderful, wonderful life

Stanley
03-03-2014, 02:04 AM
Getting up every day and expecting that I will have my desires and only my desires satisfied and indulged.

That to me doesn't sound like something that would make life worth living. In fact, it sounds more like the exact opposite.

I'm not sure there's any quicker path to a more alienated and miserable existence than to only care about your own selfish desires. The only real meaning in life is found through—indeed because of—our relationships with other people. Sacrificing for and being able to truly care about other people goes much further in achieving personal fulfillment than any amount of self-attention ever could.

arcticwolf
03-03-2014, 02:22 AM
The fact that I only get one chance at it.

Life in itself is beautiful. It's a miracle of nature, and you only get one shot - that's what keeps me going even on days when I don't feel like doing anything.

This may or may not be true.

Hierarchalist
03-03-2014, 10:39 AM
This may or may not be true.

hmmmmm...tempting.....tempting....M..U..S..T..Resi st...

SkyBurn
03-03-2014, 10:42 AM
Bringing happiness to ourselves, our world, and those of the future.

Proctor
03-03-2014, 10:46 AM
It's tough to sum up in words so I'll just post 2 videos


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGa0KaNV3tM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D05ej8u-gU

meAyin-sixteen
03-03-2014, 11:17 AM
Being stück in the continual repetitive cycle of birth and death ...

Yes, the life worth living for you is a life worth losing but I had lost my sense of smell and taste long ago

Lol :cry

Aurora
03-03-2014, 06:43 PM
For me it's the things I am passionate about.

Family
Nature
Helping others
Consoling one another
Pure joy
Exploring
Teaching
Tending the land
Caring for animals
Music and other forms of art.

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Óttar
03-03-2014, 07:01 PM
This may or may not be true.
Whether or not you accept reincarnation (or transmigration of souls, or whatever) as a possibility, you only have one chance to live as your present personality (ahamkara), where you wouldn't remember it in any subsequent incarnation, and seeing as there is no proof, one must live as if we only live once. Call me a lokayata, at least on this matter, but that's how I see it.

Caismeachd
03-03-2014, 07:15 PM
Nature is a good one. Forget other people. But nature will always be epic beautiful and powerful. Nothing really makes me feel more alive than when nature decides to be epic.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/rublev/PB270029_zps6a11a555.jpg

rhiannon
03-03-2014, 07:40 PM
I think Aurora covered it very well.

First and foremost what makes life most worth living for me is my family.

However by the end of my life I hope in some way that I've been able to positively touch the lives of others through my own actions. I am happy to work in healthcare for this very purpose.

Acquisitor
03-03-2014, 07:44 PM
- waking up every day while realizing that I feel good and that I'm still alive.
- doing what I like to do (hobbies etc)
- communicating with interesting people, I generally like "odd" or "strange" people, most of them are quite interesting
- eating what I like
- feeling attracting to someone special and making love (sometimes a good wank can be great as well)

etc ;)

d3cimat3d
03-03-2014, 10:56 PM
The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters.

Francesci De Medici
03-25-2014, 03:43 AM
Sea, sex and wine.

Linebacker
04-18-2014, 08:58 PM
Achieving greatness and fame,becoming a cut above the rest,perfecting your mind and your body.

That is what the meaning of life was for the ancient Greeks and it is the same for me.

Xanthias
04-18-2014, 09:03 PM
The fact that I only get one chance at it.

Life in itself is beautiful. It's a miracle of nature, and you only get one shot - that's what keeps me going even on days when I don't feel like doing anything.

totally agree with you

Elsa
04-18-2014, 09:05 PM
Sexy time.

Melina
04-18-2014, 09:06 PM
What makes life worth living is going to college and debate with them on controversial matters. Getting angry posts and death threats makes me want to achieve the goal that I want to achieve when it comes to this society. After college putting music on and doing exercise gives me a good high and makes me want to get up everyday and do it again and again.
What also makes life worth living are the new scientific discoveries coming about. I am looking forward to uncover what other secrets are brains have. I am especially interested in the pineal gland. I would like to know what makes people tick and make people want to do what they do.

Valais
04-18-2014, 09:08 PM
The greatest good is to attain mental and spiritual tranquility, to attain the highest knowledge that you can strive for and to live a virtuous life. Life is worth living if you're building a worthwhile life. Of course, all this was laid out by the giants of Western philosophy more than two thousand years ago. Everyone should read Nicomachean Ethics; amazingly most in our increasingly degenerate society today won't even know what that is or who wrote it.

Rudel
04-18-2014, 09:09 PM
What makes life worth living?

A slice of cheese, a drop of wine, a cigarette, a sunny afternoon under a fig tree, a woman, kids, the village, the church, singing a song, perusing on the state of the world with friends and a good bottle for hours, beating England at anything.

Sadly I'm not soft like I'd want to, I'm a conflicted person with a terrible temper ; and as such I live as a secluded celibate a midst my books. I still get my wine, my cheese and my cigarettes, though. I can't live without them.

Anyway, I believe my duty doesn't lie at the same place as my envies.

Hadouken
04-18-2014, 09:12 PM
mrswan

cally
04-18-2014, 09:13 PM
Family (including significant other), Friends, Nature

Skerdilaid
04-18-2014, 09:15 PM
Sexy time.

I am not going to add anything else to this:thumb001:

Kalimtari
04-18-2014, 09:20 PM
my ideals (although I always end up in destiny's shitters)

dude
04-18-2014, 09:21 PM
Cheesecake, pussy and strawberries.

Rĉdwald
04-18-2014, 09:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9hdMSr6Duc :rolleyes:

ProN00b
04-18-2014, 09:24 PM
For me it's League Of Legends, but there's something else that's hiding behind which makes me playing this sport so hard.

Sehnsucht
04-18-2014, 09:31 PM
Being German

Rĉdwald
04-18-2014, 09:34 PM
If I had the constitution to blow my head off I would, but I'm stuck here.

Hadouken
04-18-2014, 09:34 PM
Being German

step 1. reading your comment

step 2. looking at your signature

step 3. getting confused

larali
04-18-2014, 09:36 PM
My kids.

albosomething
04-18-2014, 09:58 PM
well people nowadays are taught they are just vile animals, no different than other animals. The need for facts and the definition of "facts" get twisted every time you want to make a point that life is much more than just living to die.
With cynical atheists and such people, depression will be the main problem in no less than 30-40 years.

the things that give my life a meaning is, wanting to prosper get a better status and make impact on the society for the better, and hopefully get my fair judgment on the other world.

Prisoner Of Ice
04-18-2014, 09:59 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?122412-The-Basques-amp-Catalans-are-the-true-Hebrews%28tribe-of-Judah%29-The-imposters-are-the-jews%28pharisees%29

meAyin-sixteen
04-18-2014, 11:11 PM
... And how can I avoid getting screwed during the recycling process? I can´t.

If I don´t figure out how and when to exit the room :confused: ... Well at some point my luck will run out.

Han Cholo
04-18-2014, 11:12 PM
The lolz.

d3cimat3d
04-18-2014, 11:18 PM
Travel, bitches, food.

If not for those things I would blow my head off.

Ultra
04-18-2014, 11:34 PM
For me it's League Of Legends, but there's something else that's hiding behind which makes me playing this sport so hard.
What's your elo/which league are you in, noob?

d3cimat3d
04-18-2014, 11:50 PM
gay sex

cally
04-18-2014, 11:54 PM
well people nowadays are taught they are just vile animals, no different than other animals. The need for facts and the definition of "facts" get twisted every time you want to make a point that life is much more than just living to die.
With cynical atheists and such people, depression will be the main problem in no less than 30-40 years.

the things that give my life a meaning is, wanting to prosper get a better status and make impact on the society for the better, and hopefully get my fair judgment on the other world.
I find religious people to be very depressed people. Thinking about "life" after death so deeply and often is not very healthy or productive. But each to their own :)

Svipdag
04-18-2014, 11:56 PM
Being stück in the continual repetitive cycle of birth and death ...

Yes, the life worth living for you is a life worth losing but I had lost my sense of smell and taste long ago

Lol :cry

I had lost my senses of taste and smell temporarily, though didn't know that at the time, as a result of a head injury in 1971. It was distressing, but not as much as I had thought it would be. In despair, I gave away all of my cookbooks, only to need to beg them all back six months later. One loss remained permanent, though and I still regret it: I cannot smell roses at all. To me they are absolutely odorless.

Yet, even when I could taste and smell nothing, there was so much that I could still enjoy. I could still see the beauties of nature and of art. I could still hear and enjoy music. I could enjoy poetry and literature. And sex. I found that I didn't really miss taste and smell all that much.

SobieskisavedEurope
04-18-2014, 11:59 PM
Most of all music.

Fear Fiain
04-18-2014, 11:59 PM
living within God's paradigm of selfless love, caring about others, and seeing that spread.

1stLightHorse
04-19-2014, 12:01 AM
I mean beautiful things that make all the mundane effort and the drudgery of everyday life seem worthwhile.

To me the feeling of love is one of those things, and I do not mean so called romantic love, I mean the pure kind of love that has no base in selfishness.

The feeling of amazement, and wonder you get seeing things like sunset are worth mentioning.

The feeling you get when you do something good for someone in need that makes them smile.

Ok, let's see what you can do.

So what makes it worthwhile for you to get up in the morning and keep going?


For me, i get up because i love going running every morning as soon as i wake up, i love spending time with my fiancee and because i love to go to work everyday. The daily grind is beautiful if you're doing what you love.

albosomething
04-19-2014, 12:02 AM
I find religious people to be very depressed people. Thinking about "life" after death so deeply and often is not very healthy or productive. But each to their own :)

yeah yeah we all know who suffer more from depression and similar mental conditions..

cally
04-19-2014, 12:04 AM
yeah yeah we all know who suffer more from depression and similar mental conditions..
What do you mean?

albosomething
04-19-2014, 12:06 AM
What do you mean?

I meant exactly what I said .

It is known that people who don't believe in any deity have more "mental problems" , are cynical, and live a pretty meaningless life

Baldur
04-19-2014, 12:07 AM
I don't know yet, but my family makes me survive every day.

iNird
04-19-2014, 12:14 AM
I meant exactly what I said .

It is known that people who don't believe in any deity have more "mental problems" , are cynical, and live a pretty meaningless life

lol mental problems? Personally I think anyone that believes in a judeo-christian god without any proof or evidence require a strong amount of faith and you could characterized such faith as a "mental illness."

those that don't believe in God tend to live life to their fullest because they think there is nothing else after this one.

Atheists ftw!

:D

Stimpy
04-19-2014, 12:18 AM
I meant exactly what I said .

It is known that people who don't believe in any deity have more "mental problems" , are cynical, and live a pretty meaningless life
In my opinion the most meaningless life you can live is in preparation for some kind of afterlife, if anything non-believers would value life more.
That there's a 1% difference in depression statistics isn't a counter-argument and doesn't say much. High intelligence also slightly heightens the risk of depression and we all know that high intelligence and education correlate very well with the lack of religion.
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” - George Bernard Shaw

Melina
04-19-2014, 12:22 AM
I don't know yet, but my family makes me survive every day.

Living in Sweden should be enough to make you want to live everyday.

Skerdilaid
04-19-2014, 12:24 AM
I meant exactly what I said .

It is known that people who don't believe in any deity have more "mental problems" , are cynical, and live a pretty meaningless life

I rather live life and know/understand its meaning then be delusional about it, so if that makes me "mental ill" then so be it. But what does this have to do with what she said in the first place, and why the need to insult the non-religious?

Svipdag
04-19-2014, 12:29 AM
If I had the constitution to blow my head off I would, but I'm stuck here.

If I were a more courageous person, I would have been dead for the past 68 years. Those who think that suicide is "the coward's way out" are damned fools. It takes courage to take one's own life. Cowards survive, hating themselves for their inability to put an end to their troubles.

But, as I have discovered, troubles and problems which seemed insurmountable have a way of working themselves out. Today, I am grateful to the cowardice which spared my life.

Baldur
04-19-2014, 12:32 AM
Living in Sweden should be enough to make you want to live everyday.

Who said I don't want to live everyday? I'm happy as long as I'm healthy and everyone I know is, that's what matters the most to me. But my life is no fun other than that and very lonely.

1stLightHorse
04-19-2014, 12:35 AM
I meant exactly what I said .

It is known that people who don't believe in any deity have more "mental problems" , are cynical, and live a pretty meaningless life

I have a theory on this. It's that people become so obsessed with being intelligent or being this or being that, or being everything that other people want them to be. They lose sight of what they really wanted themselves, persuing other people's ideals.

That's why whenever i see parents pushing their children into this program or that program, i really find myself fucking disgusted. Children need to find what they want naturally. Not be pushed into all kinds of shit by insecure parents that have some kindof socio-economic complex.

The result is that they're trying to please everyone else because they're constantly told what is good for them, instead of trusting their own instincts and choices and some break away from it and persue their own dreams, but others remain in the poisonous cycle for life and are severely anxious/depressed or even worse.

They think they're being intelligent but they're fucking stupid. This is the reason the education system is full of incompetent teachers. Most of them sign up because "the holidays are great". What the fuck. I can't believe how so many dumbfucks can overcomplicate the simplest things in life and then think they're more intelligent for it.

My aunt was a great example. Her son loved to cook, all throughout childhood talked about cooking and eating and how he adored it. Of course, she wanted him to be a lawyer and kept pushing and pushing for it. So he got the law degree, went to work for a firm and quit after a month because he didn't enjoy it at all. The previous 4 years were completely wasted and now he wants to go into teaching because his mother and father are both teachers. He's completely lost any sense of what he really wanted (culinary skills) and he just figured, well my parents are both teachers, surely i'd be good at it too. :picard1: You can't fake enthusiasm for something you don't love. Of course this is going to cause depression. When i was a kid, i always walked around with a utility belt with toy guns and broom handles hanging from it and i always wore my batman shirt. People would call this immature but it isn't. It's just who you are. If your ego is too big to accept what you really are and what you love, you will never ever be happy. What we love as children or early on in our lives before we develop these insecurities IMO are the best choices for contentedness.

Melina
04-19-2014, 12:36 AM
In my opinion the most meaningless life you can live is in preparation for some kind of afterlife, if anything non-believers would value life more.
That there's a 1% difference in depression statistics isn't a counter-argument and doesn't say much. High intelligence also slightly heightens the risk of depression and we all know that high intelligence and education correlate very well with the lack of religion.
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” - George Bernard Shaw

Religion was made to control people. The kings would use it to control their peasants. If we were to put our hands on what Christians believed we wouldn't have the technology, science nor medicine of today. Back then they used to say that death was in god's hands and now they use doctors and after doctor's are done they say "thank god". Nothing boils my blood more than listening to someone saying that.

Did you remember how much Christians insulted people for using the internet? They called it the devil. Yet look! They are using it! That plus their hypocrisy when it comes to indulgence. Most of them have the stance of do as I say but not as I do.

The only Christians I respect are the Orthodox. I am talking about the real devote Orthodox. The ones that have a simple life and try to help those in need. Not like the pope who is a millionaire and is enriched with silver and gold. Hence if we dressed the pope with scarlet and purple he would be called the whore of Babylon.

armenianbodyhair
04-19-2014, 12:37 AM
Hamachi belly sashimi, good vodka, and good friends.

albosomething
04-19-2014, 01:03 AM
In my opinion the most meaningless life you can live is in preparation for some kind of afterlife, if anything non-believers would value life more.
That there's a 1% difference in depression statistics isn't a counter-argument and doesn't say much. High intelligence also slightly heightens the risk of depression and we all know that high intelligence and education correlate very well with the lack of religion.
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” - George Bernard Shaw
its not 1% though. It doesn't mean shit if one has high IQ or not with atheism, its just a lack of belief. Do you think people would suddenly be smarter if they turned into atheists? that's bullshit. Now if I turn into an Atheist will my iq raise?

IM ATHEIST, viola, im smarter , higher iq

And stop posting quotes like an intellectual pretentious fuck .


I rather live life and know/understand its meaning then be delusional about it, so if that makes me "mental ill" then so be it. But what does this have to do with what she said in the first place, and why the need to insult the non-religious?
didn't really insult though, and was just posting about the topic.


I have a theory on this. It's that people become so obsessed with being intelligent or being this or being that, or being everything that other people want them to be. They lose sight of what they really wanted themselves, persuing other people's ideals.

That's why whenever i see parents pushing their children into this program or that program, i really find myself fucking disgusted. Children need to find what they want naturally. Not be pushed into all kinds of shit by insecure parents that have some kindof socio-economic complex.

The result is that they're trying to please everyone else because they're constantly told what is good for them, instead of trusting their own instincts and choices and some break away from it and persue their own dreams, but others remain in the poisonous cycle for life and are severely anxious/depressed or even worse.

They think they're being intelligent but they're fucking stupid. This is the reason the education system is full of incompetent teachers. Most of them sign up because "the holidays are great". What the fuck. I can't believe how so many dumbfucks can overcomplicate the simplest things in life and then think they're more intelligent for it.

My aunt was a great example. Her son loved to cook, all throughout childhood talked about cooking and eating and how he adored it. Of course, she wanted him to be a lawyer and kept pushing and pushing for it. So he got the law degree, went to work for a firm and quit after a month because he didn't enjoy it at all. The previous 4 years were completely wasted and now he wants to go into teaching because his mother and father are both teachers. He's completely lost any sense of what he really wanted (culinary skills) and he just figured, well my parents are both teachers, surely i'd be good at it too. :picard1: You can't fake enthusiasm for something you don't love. Of course this is going to cause depression. When i was a kid, i always walked around with a utility belt with toy guns and broom handles hanging from it and i always wore my batman shirt. People would call this immature but it isn't. It's just who you are. If your ego is too big to accept what you really are and what you love, you will never ever be happy. What we love as children or early on in our lives before we develop these insecurities IMO are the best choices for contentedness.

really sad to hear stories like this

Neanderthal
04-19-2014, 01:05 AM
Nothing. But that's what makes life so awesome, you can make your life spin around anything that makes you feel good, from sniffing women shoes to some noble quest to save the world.

Pjeter Pan
04-19-2014, 01:15 AM
For me it's aliens jk
But it's living to see what the future will be like in 60 years. how drastically technology will advance during my life time. That all I care about to be honest other than family and friends

Stimpy
04-19-2014, 01:22 AM
its not 1% though. It doesn't mean shit if one has high IQ or not with atheism, its just a lack of belief. Do you think people would suddenly be smarter if they turned into atheists? that's bullshit. Now if I turn into an Atheist will my iq raise?
IM ATHEIST, viola, im smarter , higher iq
No, of course not but if you're intelligent and well-educated you're statistically more likely to be non-religious.
Since you brought up that non-religious people have a slightly higher risk for depression I just brought up that intelligent people also do, which is intresting since the two correlate very well.



And stop posting quotes like an intellectual pretentious fuck .
Don't tell me what to do.
'Every book is a quotation; and every house is a quotation out of all forests, and mines, and stone quarries; and every man is a quotation from all his ancestors.' -Ralph Waldo Emerson

albosomething
04-19-2014, 01:29 AM
In my opinion the most meaningless life you can live is in preparation for some kind of afterlife, if anything non-believers would value life more.
That there's a 1% difference in depression statistics isn't a counter-argument and doesn't say much. High intelligence also slightly heightens the risk of depression and we all know that high intelligence and education correlate very well with the lack of religion.
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” - George Bernard Shaw


I rather live life and know/understand its meaning then be delusional about it, so if that makes me "mental ill" then so be it. But what does this have to do with what she said in the first place, and why the need to insult the non-religious?


I have a theory on this. It's that people become so obsessed with being intelligent or being this or being that, or being everything that other people want them to be. They lose sight of what they really wanted themselves, persuing other people's ideals.

That's why whenever i see parents pushing their children into this program or that program, i really find myself fucking disgusted. Children need to find what they want naturally. Not be pushed into all kinds of shit by insecure parents that have some kindof socio-economic complex.

The result is that they're trying to please everyone else because they're constantly told what is good for them, instead of trusting their own instincts and choices and some break away from it and persue their own dreams, but others remain in the poisonous cycle for life and are severely anxious/depressed or even worse.

They think they're being intelligent but they're fucking stupid. This is the reason the education system is full of incompetent teachers. Most of them sign up because "the holidays are great". What the fuck. I can't believe how so many dumbfucks can overcomplicate the simplest things in life and then think they're more intelligent for it.

My aunt was a great example. Her son loved to cook, all throughout childhood talked about cooking and eating and how he adored it. Of course, she wanted him to be a lawyer and kept pushing and pushing for it. So he got the law degree, went to work for a firm and quit after a month because he didn't enjoy it at all. The previous 4 years were completely wasted and now he wants to go into teaching because his mother and father are both teachers. He's completely lost any sense of what he really wanted (culinary skills) and he just figured, well my parents are both teachers, surely i'd be good at it too. :picard1: You can't fake enthusiasm for something you don't love. Of course this is going to cause depression. When i was a kid, i always walked around with a utility belt with toy guns and broom handles hanging from it and i always wore my batman shirt. People would call this immature but it isn't. It's just who you are. If your ego is too big to accept what you really are and what you love, you will never ever be happy. What we love as children or early on in our lives before we develop these insecurities IMO are the best choices for contentedness.


No, of course not but if you're intelligent and well-educated you're statistically more likely to be non-religious.
Since you brought up that non-religious people have a slightly higher risk for depression I just brought up that intelligent people also do, which is intresting since the two correlate very well.



Don't tell me what to do.
'Every book is a quotation; and every house is a quotation out of all forests, and mines, and stone quarries; and every man is a quotation from all his ancestors.' -Ralph Waldo Emerson

I know that IQ and atheism correlates, It has more to do that if a dude who believes in god has more chances to get ridiculed in the scientific world,though all of the greatest scientists have been theists and agnostics.

While atheists claim to be superior and that they don't have the need for a god, its known too that atheism is related with OCD, bipolarity,cynicism and much much more.

Pjeter Pan
04-19-2014, 01:35 AM
Atheists can be stupid too.
Like this fucking piece of shit for example.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWItI2OjxQ

Stimpy
04-19-2014, 01:48 AM
Atheists can be stupid too.

Of course they can. Atheism is a very small part of who you are, it's simply the lack of a belief in god whereas religion is a big part of who you are, it's a way of life.
People need to understand that atheism isn't some kind of big collective group with similar ideas and morals like religious people and you can't lump them together. The only thing that they share is the lack of a belief in god. For me at least, that's not a big part of my identity, just like not believing in Poseidon or Zeus or whatever is a big part of your identity.


Like this fucking piece of shit for example.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWItI2OjxQ
He's actually pretty intelligent and a good debator, just a little loud and annoying. He gets too passionate and worked up over small pointless things and starts screaming and talking fast.

Rudel
04-19-2014, 01:58 AM
Religion was made to control people. The kings would use it to control their peasants.
Not really. It's the exact opposite of historical development, at least regarding Western Christianity. Civic religions like in Rome or Carthage are a different game (as well as the Cesaro-Papism that came from it in the Eastern Church), but they expressed preexistent structures of power (cf. G. Dumézil, Archaic Roman Religion).


Back then they used to say that death was in god's hands and now they use doctors and after doctor's are done they say "thank god". Nothing boils my blood more than listening to someone saying that.
Doctors aren't in control of life and death.


No, of course not but if you're intelligent and well-educated you're statistically more likely to be non-religious.
The idea that education produces non-religiousness is a false correlation, in my opinion. Or at least it isn't an unmovable and eternal correlation.

Modern liberal education favors and produces postures, worldviews and mental processes that drive to the self-perception of non-religiousness (I think it's a perception rather than a fixed cognitive state), which is natural considering the wider history of liberalism itself (as a cohesive philosophical system, not as what's now called "liberalism" in American English).
But for most of our civilization's history (and I mean the French civilization, maybe Roman Catholic more generally. I don't pretend to speak for Europe, much less "the West"), education didn't correlate with "less religious" at all, but with "less superstitious".

Non-religiousness, like other self-identification elements, is favored by a way of education, not by education. That's my take on it anyway.


Atheists can be stupid too.
Like this fucking piece of shit for example.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWItI2OjxQ
Americans are vulgar. Nothing new about it. It's not a religious thing, being annoying isn't a belief.

Kalimtari
04-19-2014, 10:31 AM
Cheesecake, pussy and strawberries.

http://ryansbigshow.tripod.com/hell_yea.jpg

Unome
04-19-2014, 02:31 PM
Building huge trillion dollar spaceships and war vessels to begin humanity's ascent into the depths of space.

If you're not doing this then yes, you basically are wasting your lives.

meAyin-sixteen
04-19-2014, 02:55 PM
I had lost my senses of taste and smell temporarily, though didn't know that at the time, as a result of a head injury in 1971. It was distressing, but not as much as I had thought it would be. In despair, I gave away all of my cookbooks, only to need to beg them all back six months later. One loss remained permanent, though and I still regret it: I cannot smell roses at all. To me they are absolutely odorless.

Yet, even when I could taste and smell nothing, there was so much that I could still enjoy. I could still see the beauties of nature and of art. I could still hear and enjoy music. I could enjoy poetry and literature. And sex. I found that I didn't really miss taste and smell all that much.

...Those who think that suicide is "the coward's way out" are damned fools. It takes courage to take one's own life. Cowards survive, hating themselves for their inability to put an end to their troubles.


I meant; I lost my taste for ´life.´

However -879u95656 (my cat has stomped over my keyboard) suicide should be treated as "absence without leave" (AWOL), for one can courageously destroy his body, yet he can never kill his attachment (pain). Life itself is magic and has a purpose - and Death is its most precious gift !

What a pity, we only have birthday once a year, right? :cry

Ain Sophia
04-29-2014, 05:49 PM
Love.
Energy.
Sunshine, the beauty of nature, the playing of light.
Knowing that you are here because you have a job to do, then you can go 'home'.

Jackson
04-29-2014, 05:51 PM
Building huge trillion dollar spaceships and war vessels to begin humanity's ascent into the depths of space.

If you're not doing this then yes, you basically are wasting your lives.

How about exploration vessels? We should be exploring the depths of space first, might take a little while before we start blasting each other to bits over it, let's take one thing it a time buddy. Been watching too much battle-star galactica.

Unome
04-29-2014, 06:16 PM
"And war vessels", exploration is presumed as part of the trillion dollar spaceships.

Hithaeglir
04-29-2014, 06:17 PM
Love

Úza
05-01-2014, 09:11 AM
I think living is its own reward. If you're worth jack s*$& when you're dead, then to live is to gain.

Zmey Gorynych
05-01-2014, 09:50 AM
As I get older (and I'm not old at all) I find less and less reasons to enjoy life. Work may be a reason only if you really make a difference and lets be honest how many of us really make a difference (truly make a difference) !? You may say that you don't have to make a difference and that the respect of your peers (colleagues) is enough to be content but who really cares about the opinion of those you don't know and/or care about !?
Sexy time is as good as anything else but once the consummation has taken place one feels nothing but disgust towards the partner, by God sometimes I have the impression a condom is more valuable than her. The sweat and the panting is outright vomit inducing. Family may be another reason but what about those that don't have the calling or tradition for family life !?

I used to enjoy sport and particularly violent sport (violence in general really) but I lost that too. People really underestimate or simply suppress the pleasure of violence within themselves which can be soooo gratifying.

In conclusion I have to say that, except the odd moment, life is pretty dull.

Svipdag
05-01-2014, 11:35 PM
Most of all music.

Yes