Classify these members of staff of a primary school in Carmarthen, West Wales, and where they pass

[Tooting Carmen]

Here is the link: http://www.richmondpark.amdro.org.uk/English/Staff/Pages/default.aspx

[YeshAtid]

Creepy thread, possibly verging on pedophilia.

[Tooting Carmen]

Creepy thread, possibly verging on pedophilia.

They're teachers, not children LOL.

[YeshAtid]

They're teachers, not children LOL.
You access primary school websites.

[Tooting Carmen]

You access primary school websites.

The teachers are a good representation of local phenotypes.

[GrebluBro]

they look Irish to me

[YeshAtid]

The teachers are a good representation of local phenotypes.
Were you soliciting ?

[Tooting Carmen]

they look Irish to me

Please elaborate.

[Tooting Carmen]

Were you soliciting ?

It is a primary school where I've worked in the past.

[YeshAtid]

It is a primary school where I've worked in the past.
:rolleyes: A shoddy rationale methinks.

[Tooting Carmen]

:rolleyes: A shoddy rationale methinks.

Stop trolling on my thread. Either go ahead with the classifications or just go away please.

[YeshAtid]

Stop trolling on my thread. Either go ahead with the classifications or just go away please.
Refrain from pestering me then.

[Styrian Mujo]

Atlantids and Nordids (Keltic maybe?)

[Tooting Carmen]

Atlantids and Nordids (Keltic maybe?)

Thank you. Anyone else?

[mikeyup]

north atlantids, keltic nordids and borreby's

[Tooting Carmen]

north atlantids, keltic nordids and borreby's

Thanks. Would you be able to list specific examples of each?

[mikeyup]

Thanks. Would you be able to list specific examples of each?

no sorry, too lazy :p

[Tooting Carmen]

no sorry, too lazy :p

Don't worry lol.

[Armand_Duval]

All of them look very similar regarding racial traits so there isnt much variation, all of them look like british/north european.

[Longbowman]

British Isles, Northern Europe.

[Sikeliot]

They look Irish to me too. Mostly Nordid, Brunn, and Atlantid types.

[Anglojew]

Very British looking. Surprisingly few Paleo-Atlantids.

[Tooting Carmen]

Very British looking. Surprisingly few Paleo-Atlantids.

Although Paleo-Atlantids are more common in Wales than in other parts of the UK, there are plenty of lighter individuals too. Moreover, keep in mind that this is a very heavily Welsh-speaking town, so there would not have been all the English migration and mixing that occurred in the Valleys further east.

[Smaug]

Mostly Brünns. I've noticed that West and North Wales are lighter than De Cymru.

[Tooting Carmen]

I've noticed that West and North Wales are lighter than De Cymru.

Really? Why would that be?

[Longbowman]

Really? Why would that be?

One old theory was the southern Silurians were descended from recent Spanish immigration. The Romans remarked on their darkness.

[Tooting Carmen]

One old theory was the southern Silurians were descended from recent Spanish immigration. The Romans remarked on their darkness.

Yes I've heard about that. Although the Welsh do tend to be a bit darker than other Brits, the funny thing is that some of the most Nordic-looking ones I've met have been native Welsh-speakers.

[Longbowman]

Yes I've heard about that. Although the Welsh do tend to be a bit darker than other Brits, the funny thing is that some of the most Nordic-looking ones I've met have been native Welsh-speakers.

Of course, from the North. A lot of Viking up there. You meet people who could be Norse-Gaels in Snowdonia. Most of the natives seem to have some influence. We Saeson settlers stick out.

[Tooting Carmen]

I have a Welsh-speaking friend from Bangor. He looks like this:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39257&d=1383264211

[Longbowman]

I have a Welsh-speaking friend from Bangor. He looks like this:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39257&d=1383264211

Yup.

You get plenty of med-types too. Sometimes it varies by village.

[Tooting Carmen]

Here are some famous blond Welshmen. Around 30% of the ones in the thread are native Welsh-speakers. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?99363-Classify-these-various-blond-Welshmen&highlight=classify+blond+welshmen

[Smaug]

Really? Why would that be?

I have no idea, it certainly can't be Germanic settlement.

[Tooting Carmen]

I have no idea, it certainly can't be Germanic settlement.

But whether light or dark, Welshmen tend to have a great vibe and sensuality about them.;)

[Longbowman]

I have no idea, it certainly can't be Germanic settlement.

Don't fool yourself, the English conquered Wales by the 13th Century. Owain Glyndwr's revolt - the last one - ended in 1415.

Interesting fact: in 1316, Llywelyn Bren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_Bren), rebel leader, surrendered to the English in my grandparents' village in Powys on the condition his men be spared.

[Tooting Carmen]

Don't fool yourself, the English conquered Wales by the 13th Century. Owain Glyndwr's revolt - the last one - ended in 1415.


Yes, but before the Industrial Revolution there was only limited English migration into Wales, and most of them would have been administrators and aristocrats.

[Longbowman]

Yes, but before the Industrial Revolution there was only limited English migration into Wales, and most of them would have been administrators and aristocrats.

Soldiers, rapists, and no, in my parents' valley in North Wales there was an English settlement - a town - that was later burnt, sure - from the 1300s.

This was not a one-off.

Places like the Gower Peninsula were Anglicised since Norman times and indeed developed their own English dialects that retained archaisms. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gower_dialect) Pembrokeshire is known as little England.

[Tooting Carmen]

Soldiers, rapists, and no, in my parents' valley in North Wales there was an English settlement - a town - that was later burnt, sure - from the 1300s.

This was not a one-off.

Places like the Gower Peninsula were Anglicised since Norman times and indeed developed their own English dialects that retained archaisms. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gower_dialect) Pembrokeshire is known as little England.

True, but there have still been many places in North and West Wales which, at least until relatively recently, have hardly been affected by English migration and culture at all.

[Longbowman]

True, but there have still been many places in North and West Wales which, at least until relatively recently, have hardly been affected by English migration and culture at all.

Yep. But different valleys, different stories.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yep. But different valleys, different stories.

Sure.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyway, let us not go off too much in a tangent please.

[Sikeliot]

This one looks Iberian.

http://www.richmondpark.amdro.org.uk/Pictures/Images/Staff/Mr%20K%20James_converted_(165x236).jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

This one looks Iberian.

http://www.richmondpark.amdro.org.uk/Pictures/Images/Staff/Mr%20K%20James_converted_(165x236).jpg

Why especially?

[Longbowman]

Point is there's more genetic diversity in Wales than any other area of the UK (recent immigration notwithstanding).

[Tooting Carmen]

Point is there's more genetic diversity in Wales than any other area of the UK (recent immigration notwithstanding).

I've read the opposite - the Welsh are genetically the most Paleolithic of Brits.

[Smaug]

Don't fool yourself, the English conquered Wales by the 13th Century. Owain Glyndwr's revolt - the last one - ended in 1415.

Interesting fact: in 1316, Llywelyn Bren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_Bren), rebel leader, surrendered to the English in my grandparents' village in Powys on the condition his men be spared.

What does it have to do with Germanic settlement? The only place it happened was in the far South West Wales with the Norse and in the South Wales Valleys with the English. Part of my Welsh ancestry is from the Valleys and they had English ancestry.

[Longbowman]

I've read the opposite - the Welsh are genetically the most Paleolithic of Brits.

That doesn't mean they're not the most diverse. In fact it suggests they are.

Pour example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abergele

[Longbowman]

What does it have to do with Germanic settlement? The only place it happened was in the far South West Wales with the Norse and in the South Wales Valleys with the English. Part of my Welsh ancestry is from the Valleys and they had English ancestry.

As I touched upon in later posts, the English built towns and castles in the north too. Like Harlech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlech), famously.

Pembrokeshire and Ynys Mon got their fair share of Norse, too.

[Smaug]

As I touched upon in later posts, the English built towns and castles in the north too. Like Harlech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlech), famously.

Pembrokeshire and Ynys Mon got their fair share of Norse, too.

I have ancestry from Ynys Môn too. I'm very glad you called by its Welsh name rather than "Anglesey".

[Longbowman]

I have ancestry from Ynys Môn too. I'm very glad you called by its Welsh name rather than "Anglesey".

Force of habit. Anglesey just sounds a bit odd to me. Nowhere else in the area has an English name - except Snowdonia of course, but to those in the know, it's really Eryri. However: Snowdonia is such a pretty name. It shouldn't matter that it's English, it's better than Eryri. Plain and simple. Eryri just means highlands anyway.

[Smeagol]

I've read the opposite - the Welsh are genetically the most Paleolithic of Brits.

Welsh are actually more Neolithic, I mean more Mediterranid influenced.

[Longbowman]

Welsh are actually more Neolithic, I mean more Mediterranid influenced.

The Welsh populations are the most indigenous to the isles, recent research suggests.

[Smaug]

Force of habit. Anglesey just sounds a bit odd to me. Nowhere else in the area has an English name - except Snowdonia of course, but to those in the know, it's really Eryri. However: Snowdonia is such a pretty name. It shouldn't matter that it's English, it's better than Eryri. Plain and simple. Eryri just means highlands anyway.

Welsh Highlands :)

[Smeagol]

The Welsh populations are the most indigenous to the isles, recent research suggests.

Sure, because English, Scottish, and Irish have a lot of Germanic, and Celtic ancestry which came after the neolithic, which is why they're lighter and more Nordoid than Welsh.

[Longbowman]

Sure, because English, Scottish, and Irish have a lot of Germanic, and Celtic ancestry which came after the neolithic, which is why they're lighter and more Nordoid than Welsh.

Originally we were all pale with dark hair.

[Smeagol]

Originally we were all pale with dark hair.

No, earliest Britons were Cromagnids, so probably mostly light featured (Although, Palaeatlantids are dark Cromagnids). Dark hair came with the Atlantomediterranids.

[Longbowman]

No, earliest Britons were Cromagnids, so probably mostly light featured. Dark hair came with the Atlantomediterranids.

Extremely doubtful. Cromagnids weren't particularly light when it came to eyes and hair anyway.

[Smeagol]

Extremely doubtful. Cromagnids weren't particularly light when it came to eyes and hair anyway.

So you're suggesting light features came mostly with the Indoeuropeans? Yeah that makes sense too.

[Longbowman]

So you're suggesting light features came mostly with the Indoeuropeans? Yeah that makes sense too.

In Britain, yes, almost certainly. My guess is it dates to 1,000BC. However, the Welsh are Indo-Europeans (with a possible non-IE substratum) and they're the most Med-like of us all. It could be it came with the Neolithics.

Some recent research here has supported the white-with-dark-hair idea.

[Tooting Carmen]

@Don Coyote: Would you like to have a go at classifying the members of staff, since you are usually good at that sort of thing?

[Longbowman]

@Don Coyote: Would you like to have a go at classifying the members of staff, since you are usually good at that sort of thing?

Set up a thread, perhaps.

[Smeagol]

@Don Coyote: Would you like to have a go at classifying the members of staff, since you are usually good at that sort of thing?

Yeah I'll do that.

[Smeagol]

Too many to classify all individually. Basically a typical British mix of Nordid-Atlantomediterranid-Brunn-Borreby.

[Tooting Carmen]

Too many to classify all individually. Basically a typical British mix of Nordid-Atlantomediterranid-Brunn-Borreby.

Thanks.

[Odin]

Brünns, Keltic-Nordids, North Atlantids/Atlantids. Pass in NW Europe.

[Tooting Carmen]

http://richmondpark.amdro.org.uk/home/staff/

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[Tooting Carmen]

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[Pro.crasti.nation]

Will you buy me a VPN service?

[samario]

Tooting, will you give me a tour around Wales?

By the way, this is a serious question. Where in the UK can I find people who look like Robbie Williams?

[Tooting Carmen]

Tooting, will you give a tour around Wales?

By the way, this is a serious question. Where in the UK can I find people who look like Robbie Williams?

Yes I will. And Robbie Williams types can be found everywhere, though more west of Danelaw than within it.