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Lulletje Rozewater
12-22-2009, 05:41 AM
The most difficult political act of citizenship is properly to identify the true nature of the regime in which one lives not in terms of what it says it is, but in terms of what it is by standards that are not subjective or self-serving. In the relatively recent phase of modernity, democracy has come to be identified with the “best regime” of classical speculation. “Democracy,” along with rights and free markets, is said to be one of the essential elements of the best regime. By comparison, all other regimes are bad regimes.

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/articles.aspx?article=1112&theme=home&loc=b 4 pages

Liffrea
12-23-2009, 01:27 PM
The democratic form means that the people are responsible for the selection of their own rulers who are to rule in accordance with a constitution, written or unwritten, and the laws made under it.

I disagree, the only real definition of democracy is the sovereign will of the people, this can only be acted upon when an individual actively partakes in the decision making process of the society he is part of. Deference to a “representative” (elected or otherwise) to, supposedly, make decisions on behalf of others isn’t democracy it’s just another type of elite, this time of “career politicians”.

In the UK elections, such as they are, merely change the occupiers of seats in Parliament, they do not change the system, nor do they make any difference to decision making. Once every five years we are asked, effectively, to vote ourselves out of any say in governance. Our elections are rubber stamps for the system and your vote isn’t worth the effort to get out of bed.

Lulletje Rozewater
12-23-2009, 01:49 PM
I disagree, the only real definition of democracy is the sovereign will of the people, this can only be acted upon when an individual actively partakes in the decision making process of the society he is part of. Deference to a “representative” (elected or otherwise) to, supposedly, make decisions on behalf of others isn’t democracy it’s just another type of elite, this time of “career politicians”.

In the UK elections, such as they are, merely change the occupiers of seats in Parliament, they do not change the system, nor do they make any difference to decision making. Once every five years we are asked, effectively, to vote ourselves out of any say in governance. Our elections are rubber stamps for the system and your vote isn’t worth the effort to get out of bed.

Democracy is,as you say, the vote of the masses and the masses are always wrong. They do not think,listen to eloquent speeches and have no clue on how to end midterm. IE after 2 years in power.