Caucasian & South-Asian genes in Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Mongolians

[GrebluBro]

Population East West Mediterr W.Asian SW Asian N-African S.Asian N.mongoloid S.Mongoloid
Mongolian 3.1 0.6 0.5 1.8 0.2 0.2 0.6 32.5 60.5
Japanese 0.9 0 0 0 0 0 1.5 26.7 70.8
Chinese 0.8 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 18.5 80.1
Korean 0.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 24.9 74.4

East => East Euro
S.Asian => South Asian


Source:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyN nc&authkey=COCa89AJ&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0

[Longbowman]

Quelle surprise, the Mongols have European blood.

[Smeagol]

Quelle surprise, the Mongols have European blood.

Not a surprise at all. There were Indoeuropeans in the area in ancient times.

[Smeagol]

Any non East Asian genes in the Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese though are insignificant.

[Longbowman]

Not a surprise at all. There were Indoeuropeans in the area in ancient times.

Hence, 'quelle surprise,' not 'good God!'

[TheBlondeSalad]

Not a surprise at all. There were Indoeuropeans in the area in ancient times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[GrebluBro]

Quelle surprise, the Mongols have European blood.

Chinese and Japanese got South Asian genes too..
While spreading Buddhism, they did spread some of their genes lol

[Smeagol]

Chinese and Japanese got South Asian genes too..
White spreading Buddhism, they did spread some of their genes lol

Actually no. On other dodecad spredsheets they show up with 0% South Asian, I think it's just noise. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedEY4Y3lTUVBaaFp0bC1zZlBDcTZEY lE#gid=0

[GrebluBro]

Actually no. On other dodecad spredsheets they show up with 0% South Asian, I think it's just noise. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedEY4Y3lTUVBaaFp0bC1zZlBDcTZEY lE#gid=0


I disagree..
If you take East African, it has been consistently zero for several ethnicities and stayed 0.1 to 0.3 for some reasonable ethnicities..
Claiming 1.5% for Japanese as noise is not right..May be South Asian genes vary from 0% to 1% among Chinese..your spreadsheet sampled 8 Chinese with 0% as average and mine got 0.5%.. I don't think of noise in this excel sheet cuz almost ethnic percents sound very reliable for any ethnicity
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyN nc&authkey=COCa89AJ&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0

[Smeagol]

I disagree..
If you take East African, it has been consistently zero for several ethnicities and stayed 0.1 to 0.3 for some reasonable ethnicities..
Claiming 1.5% for Japanese as noise is not right..May be South Asian genes vary from 0% to 1% among Chinese..your spreadsheet sampled 8 Chinese with 0% as average and mine got 0.5%.. I don't think of noise in this excel sheet cuz almost ethnic percents sound very reliable for any ethnicity
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyN nc&authkey=COCa89AJ&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0

In the spreadsheet you posted, the Japanese as a whole have 0% South Asia, only one had 1.5%, and I'm guessing it could be recent admixture, since there's not historical reason for the Japanese to have any South Asian influence.. Anyway, even 1.5% is absolutely irrelevant.

[GrebluBro]

In the spreadsheet you posted, the Japanese as a whole have 0% South Asia, only one had 1.5%, and I'm guessing it could be recent admixture, since there's not historical reason for the Japanese to have any South Asian influence..

5 Japanese got 1.5%
9 Chinese got 0.5%
28 Japanese got 0%

I think it all depends on the region


Anyway, even 1.5% is absolutely irrelevant.

This is true for any ethnicity..
Only Phenotype and culture matters

[Smeagol]

5 Japanese got 1.5%
9 Chinese got 0.5%
28 Japanese got 0%

My mistake, I read it wrong, but the majority got none.


I think it all depends on the region

No, there's no reason any Japanese should have South Asian admixture.

[GrebluBro]

My mistake, I read it wrong, but the majority got none.



No, there's no reason any Japanese should have South Asian admixture.

Chinese definitely have some admixure cuz of ancient trading and social exchanges..Just Himalaya separate them.

Indians got 1-3% Mongoloid based on region

[zhaoyun]

As for China, the variations probably fluctuate greatly depending on the region you are taking the samples from. But anyways, looks like on the whole, any admixture is pretty insignificant.

[zhaoyun]

Chinese definitely have some admixure cuz of ancient trading and social exchanges..Just Himalaya separate them.

Indians got 1-3% Mongoloid based on region

There used to be quite a number of Indian monks that went to China to spread Buddhism. But monks shouldnt be fucking but I don't know, maybe some did get action. lol

[GrebluBro]

As for China, the variations probably fluctuate greatly depending on the region you are taking the samples from. But anyways, looks like on the whole, any admixture is pretty insignificant.

Yep..unless it's more than 5%.. it's strictly zero..

I think <=1/8th must be taken as NULL

[Longbowman]

Chinese definitely have some admixure cuz of ancient trading and social exchanges..Just Himalaya separate them.

Indians got 1-3% Mongoloid based on region

Europeans too.

[Longbowman]

Yep..unless it's more than 5%.. it's strictly zero..

I think <=1/8th must be taken as NULL

Don't be silly. Every gene counts for summat.

[GrebluBro]

Europeans too.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?118383-North-East-Euros-with-Mongoloid-and-South-Asian-genes-in-percent


Don't be silly. Every gene counts for summat.

I meant racial/phenotype view in reality..

[Atlantic Islander]

These threads need to be in the GENETICS section.

[GrebluBro]

These threads need to be in the GENETICS section.

Actually, only a few sections are being visited often..

Autosomal DNA section is a rare case

[Selurong]

So are the Japanese honorary Tamils now in addition to being honorary Aryans?

[Tooting Carmen]

Negligible figures. They are overwhelmingly pure Mongoloids.

[GrebluBro]

Negligible figures. They are overwhelmingly pure Mongoloids.

Ya 99% on average...~1% non-Mongoloid (S.Asian + Euro)

I'm just wondering why some people are obsessed with 1% (only Russians and Finns got 5-6%) Mongoloid genes in Euros...Anything <1/8th is negligible IM0

[Selurong]

Filipinos have an average of 7-15% South Asian Admix. Can we be honorary Tamils now?

[GrebluBro]

Filipinos have an average of 7-15% South Asian Admix. Can we be honorary Tamils now?

I've seen you mentioning Tamils couple of times in this forum.

Tamils are the oldest ethnicity in India and they were not a part of any Indian empires until British came.
They are relatively much better than other Indians if it comes to education and wealth, but they are being considered the darkest/ugliest by self-hating brown Indians :picard2:

I don't see why you put emphasis on 7-15% South Asians (mostly Tamils if ancient admixure) since they totally mixed with local Filiponos right from ancient time and we don't see any significant Tamil impact on Philippines

[Arcadefire]

That is just noise. Anything below 5% is insignificant anyways.

[Selurong]

I've seen you mentioning Tamils couple of times in this forum.

Tamils are the oldest ethnicity in India and they were not a part of any Indian empires until British came.
They are relatively much better than other Indians if it comes to education and wealth, but they are being considered the darkest/ugliest by self-hating brown Indians :picard2:

I don't see why you put emphasis on 7-15% South Asians (mostly Tamils if ancient admixure) since they totally mixed with local Filiponos right from ancient time and we don't see any significant Tamil impact on Philippines

I respect Tamils.

Anyway; this is why most Indonesians and Malaysians have Tamil Blood. (Even before the recent migrations)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zS2JDRBdNzk/TUP5CsQysFI/AAAAAAAADBM/Fa36mejCQXg/s640/kingdom+of+rajendra+chola.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSQxCQSn-aU/TyK2u4GBqlI/AAAAAAAAAy0/uasLUiyEYVU/s1600/Chola+dynasty.jpg

Most of the Tamil descended Filipino royalty...

Sri Lumay
Rajah Sri Bata Shaja
Rajah Siagu
Rajah Tupas

Etc. Trace their orgins to West Sumatra and are descended from Rajendra Chola I.

The reason why the Philippines doesn't feel Tamil is because we are Hispanic due to the Mexicans...

Territorio Verrinianto de Nueva España
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gc3sVf6zxi4/T7C1FRAEhwI/AAAAAAAABKI/1KTpHaUEFdQ/s1600/Viceroyalty-New-Spain.jpg

This place might be the only place in the world where the Indian from India overlapped with the Indio (Amerindian) from the Americas.

[Arcadefire]

A lot of tribal elements that are present in south Asia must be present in SEA aswell. This probably explains why Filps have "south asian" admixture.

[Arcadefire]

PS: I dont get why south asian thinks other indians hate tamils because they are dark and ugly lol. Talk about having complexes.

[GrebluBro]

I respect Tamils.

Anyway; this is why most Indonesians and Malaysians have Tamil Blood. (Even before the recent migrations)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zS2JDRBdNzk/TUP5CsQysFI/AAAAAAAADBM/Fa36mejCQXg/s640/kingdom+of+rajendra+chola.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSQxCQSn-aU/TyK2u4GBqlI/AAAAAAAAAy0/uasLUiyEYVU/s1600/Chola+dynasty.jpg

Most of the Tamil descended Filipino royalty...

Sri Lumay
Rajah Sri Bata Shaja
Rajah Siagu
Rajah Tupas

Etc. Trace their orgins to West Sumatra and are descended from Rajendra Chola I.

The reason why the Philippines doesn't feel Tamil is because we are Hispanic due to the Mexicans...

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I appreciate it..

Tamils are just 6% of Indian population and they are slightly isolated cuz of anti-Hindi (de facto national language) and 95+% of Tamils don't speak Hindi.
So in international view, no one is putting enough emphasis on Tamil history.

[Selurong]

A lot of tribal elements that are present in south Asia must be present in SEA aswell. This probably explains why Filps have "south asian" admixture.

It's not only the Tribal elements. The founders of two Rajahnates here: Rajahnate of Butuan and Rajahnate of Cebu were Tamils from West Sumatra.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSQxCQSn-aU/TyK2u4GBqlI/AAAAAAAAAy0/uasLUiyEYVU/s1600/Chola+dynasty.jpg


Even unearthed artifacts like ancient inscriptions (Laguna Copperplate Inscription and Butuan Silver Paleograph)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8vd_5IUMeyk/T-_uts1yS4I/AAAAAAAABY4/si8uI4-8xao/s1600/thepinoywarrior+laguna+copperplate+replica.JPG

Shows heavy Tamil and Sanskrit use. The nobility is obviously Indian and the government system is also Indian.

Most philosophical words in Tagalog for example are completely Indian in origin (Although the religious words are Spanish)

Example:

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Philosophicalterminology_zps19588b26.png

[GrebluBro]

A lot of tribal elements that are present in south Asia must be present in SEA aswell. This probably explains why Filps have "south asian" admixture.

Many Tamils did migrate to South-East Asia since 3000 years ago..

You mightn't know Tamil civilizaiton were quite old in India and they were trading with Chinese, Africans, Greeks, etc..
Google!




PS: I dont get why south asian thinks other indians hate tamils because they are dark and ugly lol. Talk about having complexes.

All Indians got complexes, and they all think other state/ethnicity people are ugly..
I singled out Tamils since that guy was being proud of Tamils while he started thread about which skin-tone is beautiful..
Don't blow out of proportion if you aren't sure why someone says something :picard2:

[Arcadefire]

Many Tamils did migrate to South-East Asia since 3000 years ago..

You mightn't know Tamil civilizaiton were quite old in India and they were trading with Chinese, Africans, Greeks, etc..
Google!

yes I do know that. Infact I wrote about it in this site. But just because they were royalties, does not guarantee that they somehow influenced the genetic makeup of an entire population. 15% is a lot if you think about it. Most Filipinos dont even have 15% Spanish blood (to put things into perspective)



All Indians got complexes, and they all think other state/ethnicity people are ugly..
I singled out Tamils since that guy was being proud of Tamils while he started thread about which skin-tone is beautiful..
Don't blow out of proportion if you aren't sure why someone says something :picard2:

[Arcadefire]

yes I do know that. Infact I wrote about it in this site. But just because they were royalties, does not guarantee that they somehow influenced the genetic makeup of an entire population. 15% is a lot if you think about it. Most Filipinos dont even have 15% Spanish blood (to put things into perspective)

[Selurong]

yes I do know that. Infact I wrote about it in this site. But just because they were royalties, does not guarantee that they somehow influenced the genetic makeup of an entire population. 15% is a lot if you think about it. Most Filipinos dont even have 15% Spanish blood (to put things into perspective)

Most Filipinos have 2% Minimum Mediteranean Blood About 58/62 Flips sampled in 23andme vary from 2% to 7% Mediteranean admix.
But the bare minimum is 2%. (It's actually higher in the Philippines because 23andme only sampled Filipinos in America, who had emigrated there precisely to escape poverty [lower class]) There is higher Hispanic admixture in the Philippines itself especially among the higher class.

According to censuses. 1/3rd of Filipinos have Spanish admix. But the reason why Med admix is low in the Filo genome is because the Med admix came second hand via Mexico (Who were 50% Med and 50% Amerind) and that the Mexican's kid with a Filipino is basically only 1/4rth Mediteranean.

That's why many Filipinos look closer to Mexicans than Spaniards.

The 2% minimum Mediteranean admixture for every Filipino, is absent in it's nearest neighbors; Malaysia or Indonesia.

[Selurong]

Continued...

The Tamil admix from royalty may be negligible how? Even the average Filo has that South Asian component.

[Arcadefire]

Continued...

The Tamil admix from royalty may be negligible how? Even the average Filo has that South Asian component.

This is what I am trying to tell you. The south asian component (ASI) is actually a mixture of many smaller components. The main 3 being proto Mediterraneans, Australoids, and Paleo Mongoloids.

[Selurong]

This is what I am trying to tell you. The south asian component (ASI) is actually a mixture of many smaller components. The main 3 being proto Mediterraneans, Australoids, and Paleo Mongoloids.

Then, shouldn't the words in Tagalog be some sort of Australoid language instead of Sanskrit and Tamil?

[Arcadefire]

Then, shouldn't the words in Tagalog be some sort of Australoid language instead of Sanskrit and Tamil?
Well languages have other ways of travelling. Perhaps , Tagalog got its influences from Thai and Khemer who in turn were influenced by Tamil. This is just a guess of course.

South Asian component refers to the ASI component and not the ANI for some reason. I am just narrowing down other possibilities as to why Filipinos may have 15 % of south asian genes. Having that much SA admixture among the general public based on the royals having south asian linage just does not make sense to me.

[Selurong]

Well languages have other ways of travelling. Perhaps , Tagalog got its influences from Thai and Khemer who in turn were influenced by Tamil. This is just a guess of course.

South Asian component refers to the ASI component and not the ANI for some reason. I am just narrowing down other possibilities as to why Filipinos may have 15 % of south asian genes. Having that much SA admixture among the general public based on the royals having south asian linage just does not make sense to me.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4VWWHzXg65h3kFXvjXyfPgH4E_zylB a_rh-TiXn_51cSpDi4g

Lol.

[blogen]

Quelle surprise, the Mongols have European blood.

Nothing surprise. The basic race of Western Mongolia was the Cromagnoid in the Bronze age. The two great races, the Europid and the Mongoloid faced each other here once.

[Longbowman]

Nothing surprise. The basic race of Western Mongolia was the Cromagnoid in the Bronze age. The two great races, the Europid and the Mongoloid faced each other here once.

What is it with non-Brits and your inability to grasp sarcasm?

[blogen]

What is it with non-Brits and your inability to grasp sarcasm?

We have continental sarcasm.

[Longbowman]

We have inferior sarcasm.

Corrected.

And the Yanks?

[blogen]

One of these are superior:

http://smolderingink.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/british-breakfast.jpg
http://inglesgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/continental-breakfast-photo-dict.faqs_.org_.jpg

:033102st:

[Longbowman]

One of these are superior:

http://smolderingink.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/british-breakfast.jpg
http://inglesgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/continental-breakfast-photo-dict.faqs_.org_.jpg

:033102st:

It's the one that isn't a Viennese pastry. Men have full Englishes.

[Selurong]

It's the one that isn't a Viennese pastry. Men have full Englishes.

2 out of the three of us here, are multi-lingual. Guess who's the one who isn't? :P

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/first-world-british-problems1.jpg

[Longbowman]

2 out of the three of us here, are multi-lingual. Guess who's the one who isn't? :P

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/first-world-british-problems1.jpg

Estas diciendo que yo no puedo hablar ningun otro idioma aparte de ingles? Ich kann viele Sprachen sprechen oder verstehen. Magari non dovresti presumere tanto. El hecho es que estamos hablando en Ingles porque Ingles es el idioma auxiliar del mundo, mentre Tagalog e Ungaro hanno molto meno importanza nella scena globale. No te enganes...

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Estas diciendo que yo no puedo hablar ningun otro idioma aparte de ingles? Ich kann viele Sprachen sprechen oder verstehen. Magari non dovresti presumere tanto. El hecho es que estamos hablando en Ingles porque Ingles es el idioma auxiliar del mundo, mentre Tagalog e Ungaro hanno molto meno importanza nella scena globale. No te enganes...

Estos comemierdas. lol

[Longbowman]

Estos comemierdas. lol

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75478-Qu%E9-piensas-de-los-anglicismos&p=2357521&viewfull=1#post2357521

[Selurong]

Estas diciendo que yo no puedo hablar ningun otro idioma aparte de ingles? Ich kann viele Sprachen sprechen oder verstehen. Magari non dovresti presumere tanto. El hecho es que estamos hablando en Ingles porque Ingles es el idioma auxiliar del mundo, mentre Tagalog e Ungaro hanno molto meno importanza nella scena globale. No te enganes...


I laugh at the insular Inglatera downplaying the true Universal language...

Anyway, if you are a Polyglot (Master of many languages). If you hear Filipino, you'd automatically think it's the universal language.

Example Time!

Our word for older brother; Kuya, is of Chinese origin 哥哥 /ko–ko (C)/keh–ya (H).

Our word for Father; Tatay, is of Aztec origin "Tatl"

Our word for younger brother, toto, is of Japanese origin おとうと/otōto

Our word for intention, Sadya, is of Tamil origin from the word சதி (Sathi)

Our word for faith, Sampalataya, is of Sanskrit origin from the word सम्प्रत्यय Sampratyaya

Our phrase for "How are you", Kamusta, is of Spanish origin, Como estas?

Our phrase for "Thank You", Salmat, is of Arabic origin, Slamah عليكم

Its very difficult to understand Filipino because we juggle through all these words from the world's different languages on a regular basis. And I find it better this way. Mwahahaha we can understand you, you can't understand us.

English hardly has cognates from Nuahatle, Sanskrit and Arabic which Tagalog has.

Yours is an insufficient language which only holds sway over the world due to your people's greed. While mine posses the inherent Universalist Quality which is better than English when taken objectively.

[zhaoyun]

I laugh at the insular Inglatera downplaying the true Universal language...

Anyway, if you are a Polyglot (Master of many languages). If you hear Filipino, you'd automatically think it's the universal language.

Example Time!

Our word for older brother; Kuya, is of Chinese origin 哥哥 /ko–ko (C)/keh–ya (H).

Our word for Father; Tatay, is of Aztec origin "Tatl"

Our word for younger brother, toto, is of Japanese origin おとうと/otōto

Our word for intention, Sadya, is of Tamil origin from the word சதி (Sathi)

Our word for faith, Sampalataya, is of Sanskrit origin from the word सम्प्रत्यय Sampratyaya

Our phrase for "How are you", Kamusta, is of Spanish origin, Como estas?

Our phrase for "Thank You", Salmat, is of Arabic origin, Slamah عليكم

Its very difficult to understand Filipino because we juggle through all these words from the world's different languages on a regular basis. And I find it better this way. Mwahahaha we can understand you, you can't understand us.

English hardly has cognates from Nuahatle, Sanskrit and Arabic which Tagalog has.

Bro, you're wasting your time here. You should start a Learn about Filipinos educational channel man.

[Longbowman]

I laugh at the insular Inglatera downplaying the true Universal language...

Anyway, if you are a Polyglot (Master of many languages). If you hear Filipino, you'd automatically think it's the universal language.

Example Time!

Our word for older brother; Kuya, is of Chinese origin 哥哥 /ko–ko (C)/keh–ya (H).

Our word for Father; Tatay, is of Aztec origin "Tatl"

Our word for younger brother, toto, is of Japanese origin おとうと/otōto

Our word for intention, Sadya, is of Tamil origin from the word சதி (Sathi)

Our word for faith, Sampalataya, is of Sanskrit origin from the word सम्प्रत्यय Sampratyaya

Our phrase for "How are you", Kamusta, is of Spanish origin, Como estas?

Our phrase for "Thank You", Salmat, is of Arabic origin, Slamah عليكم

Its very difficult to understand Filipino because we juggle through all these words from the world's different languages on a regular basis. And I find it better this way. Mwahahaha we can understand you, you can't understand us.

English hardly has cognates from Nuahatle, Sanskrit and Arabic which Tagalog has.

English has many cognates with Sanskrit as they are both Indo-European.

English and Tagalog may well both be heavily creollised, but only one is the global auxiliary language. Maybe if you had had the world's largest empire, it would be reversed.

Being a universal language is not predicated on having vocabulary from a variety of sources but if it were, English would still win. As the joke goes, English hangs out in back alleys and beats up other languages, rooting around in their pockets for vocabulary.

Well done for invaders having left their mark on your speech, though.

Also, Inglaterra - with two rs - means England. Presumably you wanted to call me Ingles, Englishman. I'm flattered you consider me to be speaking for my nation though.

Thank you for explaining the meaning of the word polyglot to me. Much appreciated. Did you know it is of Greek origin? From poly - many, and glot - tongue, language. Universal language.

[Selurong]

English has many cognates with Sanskrit as they are both Indo-European.

English and Tagalog may well both be heavily creollised, but only one is the global auxiliary language. Maybe if you had had the world's largest empire, it would be reversed.

Being a universal language is not predicated on having vocabulary from a variety of sources but if it were, English would still win. As the joke goes, English hangs out in back alleys and beats up other languages, rooting around in their pockets for vocabulary.

Well done for invaders having left their mark on your speech, though.

Also, Inglaterra - with two rs - means England. Presumably you wanted to call me Ingles, Englishman. I'm flattered you consider me to be speaking for my nation though.

Thank you for explaining the meaning of the word polyglot to me. Much appreciated. Did you know it is of Greek origin? From poly - many, and glot - tongue, language. Universal language.

I'm sorry but I don't find mastery of several languages belonging to the same Indo-European language family, impressive. If that's the case then I would know 3 more languages asides from Tagalog, there's Ilocano, the language of my Mum, Cebuano the language of my classmates and Illonggo the language of my home.

I am not only referring to you when I said Inglatera. I really meant England as a whole.

And if you think about it. My people's empire is actually larger than yours by total territory.

http://www.transpacificproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Austranesia_French.jpg

Our colonists (the Austronesian speakers) occupied the entirety of the Pacific Ocean as well as the Indian Ocean.

That's 2x more territory than your entire British Empire stacked on top of one another.

[Longbowman]

I'm sorry but I don't find mastery of several languages belonging to the same Indo-European language family, impressive. If that's the case then I would know 3 more languages asides from Tagalog, there's Ilocano, the language of my Mum, Cebuano the language of my classmates and Illonggo the language of my home.

I am not refering to you when I said Inglatera. I really meant England as a whole.

And if you think about it. My people's empire is actually larger than yours by total territory.

http://www.transpacificproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Austranesia_French.jpg

Our colonists (the Austronesian speakers) occupied the entirety of the Pacific Ocean as well as the Indian Ocean.

That's 2x more territory than your entire British Empire stacked on top of one another.

Haha, yeah, very employable ;) if it counts I know some Hebrew.

Cute :) very big and powerful. 'My' peoples' current Empire:

http://dbcfaa79b34c8f5dfffa-7d3a62c63519b1618047ef2108473a39.r81.cf2.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/indo-european-language.jpg

Indo-European power!

And Britannia ruled the waves. Including most of the Pacific and Indian oceans :laugh:

http://www.radicalcartography.net/britishempire.gif

[Selurong]

Haha, yeah, very employable ;) if it counts I know some Hebrew.

Cute :) very big and powerful. 'My' peoples' current Empire:

http://dbcfaa79b34c8f5dfffa-7d3a62c63519b1618047ef2108473a39.r81.cf2.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/indo-european-language.jpg

Indo-European power!

And Britannia ruled the waves. Including most of the Pacific and Indian oceans :laugh:

http://www.radicalcartography.net/britishempire.gif

That is why I hate the British the most, out of all the European nationalities. They're the haughtiest. It's no wonder you'r own soldiers wanted to kill you and your own sons rebelled against you. ^_^

P.S. Oh look. The entire territorial extent of your Indo-European language family...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbnYLMFQFanzkPamw7twgCQ0nTUd1lZ f87QcRymh6y1rNCRYn6

Is still eclipsed by the total territorial extent of our language family.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRShEXcfPEeRYBpZSA4M3gOlaZRnmPRC JtGrtz7_xHv4UE2QLnk

And you ruled the waves after when? After the Portuguese and then the Spanish set a precedent and taught you how? When our colonists where all brave pioneers, who had nothing but their canoes and the clothes at their back.

Face it, we are braver but at the same time less warlike than you.

[Longbowman]

That is why I hate the British the most, out of all the European nationalities. They're the haughtiest. It's no wonder you'r own soldiers wanted to kill you and your own sons rebelled against you. ^_^

P.S. Oh look. The entire territorial extent of your Indo-European language family...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbnYLMFQFanzkPamw7twgCQ0nTUd1lZ f87QcRymh6y1rNCRYn6

Is still eclipsed by the total territorial extent of our language family.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRShEXcfPEeRYBpZSA4M3gOlaZRnmPRC JtGrtz7_xHv4UE2QLnk

And you ruled the waves after when? After the Portuguese and then the Spanish set a precedent and taught you how? When our colonists where all brave pioneers, who had nothing but their canoes and the clothes at their back.

You hate us? Aw :/ I thought you just wanted to challenge us? ;)

Don't worry, we don't hate you. Hate is for equals! We look down on you as one would monkeys or German shepherds.

How come you get to include water but we don't? And yeah, the Inuits in Nunavut are the power in Canada. MY map shows where Indo-Europeans are the empowered people. The Dravidians do not rule India or Sri Lanka and the Basques don't rule Spain. Also, nope, the territorial extent of the Indo-Europeans far eclipses the Austronesians but nice try ;)

You're in light pink, we're in light green:

http://ameliaintaiwan.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/austronesian.png

So cute!

[denz]

Haha, yeah, very employable ;) if it counts I know some Hebrew.

Cute :) very big and powerful. 'My' peoples' current Empire:

http://dbcfaa79b34c8f5dfffa-7d3a62c63519b1618047ef2108473a39.r81.cf2.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/indo-european-language.jpg

Indo-European power!

And Britannia ruled the waves. Including most of the Pacific and Indian oceans :laugh:

http://www.radicalcartography.net/britishempire.gif

The biggest mistake that Brits did, not to coorperate but challenge another empire, our Empire. 50 year later, our fights against Russians, dared to fight with Turks, then permanent and sharp collapse!

[Longbowman]

The biggest mistake that Brits did, not to coorperate but challenge another empire, our Empire. 50 year later, our fights against Russians, dared to fight with Turks, then permanent and sharp collapse!

Dude, we crushed you.

[Selurong]

You hate us? Aw :/ I thought you just wanted to challenge us? ;)

Don't worry, we don't hate you. Hate is for equals! We look down on you as one would monkeys or German shepherds.

How come you get to include water but we don't? And yeah, the Inuits in Nunavut are the power in Canada. MY map shows where Indo-Europeans are the empowered people. The Dravidians do not rule India or Sri Lanka and the Basques don't rule Spain. Also, nope, the territorial extent of the Indo-Europeans far eclipses the Austronesians but nice try ;)

You're in light pink, we're in light green:

http://ameliaintaiwan.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/austronesian.png

So cute!

Your language empires are contiguous and interconnected and are also caused by the mass murder of the native populace.

Whereas in our language empire, the people of the Easter Islands in Argentina, the people of Hawaii and the Malaygsy of Madagascar are all from my ethno-linguistic stock.

Yet, they didn't massacre the aboriginals, as in the case of Papua New Guinea where Austronesians only settled the coast and left the people inland intact.

EVEN EVEN IF you stack all your territories, of the entire Indo-Aryan language family together. We still have a larger territory than yours. According to scientists...

Quote y Quota: "The Austronesian language family is the most widely dispersed in the world."

SOURCE:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk133/Jose_Rizal_Mercado/Hahaha-1.png (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/Jose_Rizal_Mercado/media/Hahaha-1.png.html)

(Look at the sentence underlined and encircled in red)

EVEN YOUR OWN ANGLO SCHOLARS SAY IT IS THE MOST WIDELY DISPERSED LANGUAGE FAMILY ON EARTH.

Hahahaha the stupid genocidal Imperialist Indo-European people have their empire of greed eclipsed by a bunch of peace-loving Canoe rowers who charted the world's oceans in 3000 B.C.

And even your own scholars and scientists agree that we have a larger territorial extent than the whole Indo-European language family combined.

You fail, Anglo-Pig-thief-rapist of the world.

Nice try though.

[Selurong]

Furthermore, we have the largest territorial extent in the whole world and we accomplished this way way back in 3000 B.C.


This, using only canoes while braving typhoons, the thirst plus malnutrition, when traveling in between the small islands dotting the long swathes of the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

We are brave in doing so, but at the same time, peaceful, because we preserved every culture we encountered (Look at your own map in the Papua New Guinea section and you'll see we only settled in the coastland but left the natives intact and we respected their sovereignty)

Whereas, you'r kind, eliminated by bloody murder, the ethnic linguistic groups in the Americas.

And I lol over how you think you can look down on me with your thief-pig-whore-murderer-rapist descent which you deem superior to my peace-loving but brave, largest pioneers in the world, racial stock.

When even in the Anglo dominated countries such as the UK and the US: we are on average, wealthier, smarter and more long lived than your natives.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/Race_6_figure_household_and.png/350px-Race_6_figure_household_and.png

http://familyinequality.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/pew-asian-income.jpg


Your kind; impoverish ours by becoming parasitical conquerors who suction off the wealth of our peoples.

While our kind, become the elite in your very own countries by sheer hard-work and virtuousness.

Talk down to me again, you pig-rapist-whore-thief and i'll fire you from your job. ^_^ Lolz hahahaha.

[Selurong]

____

Oh look. We have a higher IQ and higher average income than you European peoples in your own Anglo-dominated soil.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Affluence_zps8281713c.png

Hah. We're even richer than your Ashke-NAZI people who are responsible for 50% of the crimes in America. Due their long established Jewish-Mafia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime) presence in the states.

You arrive as Mafia lords or thieves of the aboriginals to build up your wealth. Yet, the Filipinos who arrived as the plantation workers and maids of a subjugated state you impoverished by war (Philippine-American War)...


Becomes the elite in the very country who impoverished and stole from them.


Don't even bother ingratiating yourself to us and moving up the social ladder by finding some Filipina to marry, because you are a bunch of ingrates who won't even return the Boxer Codex to us.

[Selurong]

By the way, the British are 4 places down (At seventh place) while the Filipinos are in 3rd, by sheer wealth and education across all ethnic groups in the whole of the sample.

This, despite the fact that Anglo Americans are the loudest, most arrogant and overrated ethnic group in the USA.

[Longbowman]

Your language empires are contiguous and interconnected and are also caused by the mass murder of the native populace.

So?


Whereas in our language empire, the people of the Easter Islands in Argentina, the people of Hawaii and the Malaygsy of Madagascar are all from my ethno-linguistic stock.

Don't pretend Hawaiian is anymore the lingua franca of Hawaii. The Hawaiians are all but dead, too. Hawaii is Terra Indeoeuropea. Accept it, Austronesian. Your empire is a lot smaller than it was


Yet, they didn't massacre the aboriginals, as in the case of Papua New Guinea where Austronesians only settled the coast and left the people inland intact.


Yes. Because there had been no people on the coast.


EVEN EVEN IF you stack all your territories, of the entire Indo-Aryan language family together. We still have a larger territory than yours. According to one man...

Fixed.


Quote y Quota: "The Austronesian language family is the most widely dispersed in the world."

SOURCE:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk133/Jose_Rizal_Mercado/Hahaha-1.png (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/Jose_Rizal_Mercado/media/Hahaha-1.png.html)

(Look at the sentence underlined and encircled in red)

EVEN YOUR OWN ANGLO SCHOLARS SAY IT IS THE MOST WIDELY DISPERSED LANGUAGE FAMILY ON EARTH.

That doesn't mean has the largest territory. Essentially this oaf is referring to the (impressive!) spread from Hawaii to Madagascar - ie, over a lot of islands. As you've said our sprachsraum is contiguous.


Hahahaha the stupid genocidal Imperialist Indo-European people have their empire of greed eclipsed by a bunch of peace-loving Canoe rowers who charted the world's oceans in 3000 B.C.

You say peace-loving but then how do you explain the Maori and the Moriori, for example?


And even your own scholars and scientists agree that we have a larger territorial extent than the whole Indo-European language family combined.


No, one dude said the distance between Madagascar and Hawaii is bigger than between Ireland and Bangladesh.

Look, the only reason you didn't kill that many people is because you colonised uninhabited islands, well done.

[Longbowman]

Oh look. We have a higher IQ and higher average income than you European peoples in your own Anglo-dominated soil.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Affluence_zps8281713c.png

Hah. We're even richer than your Ashke-NAZI people who are responsible for 50% of the crimes in America. Due their long established Jewish-Mafia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime) presence in the states.

You arrive as Mafia lords or thieves of the aboriginals to build up your wealth. Yet, the Filipinos who arrived as the plantation workers and maids of a subjugated state you impoverished by war (Philippine-American War)...


Becomes the elite in the very country who impoverished and stole from them.


Don't even bother ingratiating yourself to us and moving up the social ladder by finding some Filipina to marry, because you are a bunch of ingrates who won't even return the Boxer Codex to us.

Dude, if you were strong and relevant and beloved, we'd give you the boxer code. Maybe if you clean our house really well?

Anyhow, Israelis/Ashkenazis. You need to find a list that includes AJs, not this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_hous ehold_income

I would also point out South African Americans are primarily British and Dutch.

Here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence


One observational basis for inferring that Ashkenazi Jews have high intelligence is their prevalence in intellectually demanding fields. While only about 3% of the U.S. population is of full Ashkenazi Jewish descent,[2] 27% of United States Nobel prize winners in the 20th century,[2][3] 25% of Fields Medal winners,[4] 25% of ACM Turing Award winners,[2] 6 out of the 19 world chess champions, and a quarter of Westinghouse Science Talent Search winners have either full or partial Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.[4] However, such statistics do not rule out factors other than intelligence, such as institutional biases and social networks. Undue weight is also given to the Ashkenazi statistics because people of partial Ashkenazi ancestry (half or less) are included, but only compared to the portion of the US population of full Ashkenazi descent.


Quick question: how many nobel prizes have Filipinos won?

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/culture/features/1478/

Anyhow Filipino IQ is about 30 points below European Jewish IQ and 15 below British IQ.

Oh, and here's a Chinese chart that differentiates by region:

http://theslittyeye.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/iq-china1.png?w=600&h=314