Where can these Sicilian male models fit?

[Sikeliot]

I am going to post every single one, so do not give me backlash. They all have Sicilian first and last names, and there is no evidence of any of them being mixed.

In fact given the nature of the clothing line they promoted (Dolce and Gabbana's Ancient Greek collection) it is highly unlikely they'd have used non-natives.


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[Sikeliot]

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[GrebluBro]

10/25 doesn't look White at all, some can pass even in South Asia

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[Sikeliot]

All of their names are here..

http://www.swide.com/style-fashion/fashion-show/models-backstage-at-the-dolce-and-gabbana-spring-summer-2014-men-fashion-show-photos-photo-gallery/2013/06/22

[Tooting Carmen]

Mainly Greece and the Balkans, with small numbers in the Levant and maybe even one or two in North Africa.

[Sikeliot]

Mainly Greece and the Balkans, with small numbers in the Levant and maybe even one or two in North Africa.

Which look most Greek? Considering that this photoshoot was to highlight the ancient Greek heritage of the island, they should have made every person in it look Greek.

[Tooting Carmen]

Which look most Greek? Considering that this photoshoot was to highlight the ancient Greek heritage of the island, they should have made every person in it look Greek.

Quite a few would pass, but the most strikingly Greek look is probably photo 3 in post 2.

[Sikeliot]

Quite a few would pass, but the most strikingly Greek look is probably photo 3 in post 2.

He looks Cretan, IMO. Almost typically so.

This one also strikes me as very Greek:

http://fast.swide.com/wp-content/uploads/Male-models-backstage-photos-dolce-gabbana-ss-2014-men-fashion-show-grey-hair.jpg

[GrebluBro]

Mainly Greece and the Balkans, with small numbers in the Levant and maybe even one or two in North Africa.

10/25 doesn't look White at all, some can pass even in South Asia


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?119207-Where-can-these-Sicilian-male-models-fit&p=2499343&viewfull=1#post2499343

[Sikeliot]

I don't know why they picked so many very dark people for this.
I see several that are within what I'd say is the 5% most exotic group for all southern Europeans, and I'm not seeing how they thought that'd be able to market "ancient Greek" themed clothes.

[GrebluBro]

I don't know why they picked so many very dark people for this.
I see several that are within what I'd say is the 5% most exotic group for all southern Europeans, and I'm not seeing how they thought that'd be able to market "ancient Greek" themed clothes.

Dude these 10 guys, I separated, look MENA or South Asian... Model agencies absurdly chose such atypical ones (such faces could form 5% of whole Italy) to represent Italians/

[7eleven]

And people call Sicilians white but say Ashkenazi Jews arent :picard1:

[Sikeliot]

Dude these 10 guys, I separated, look MENA or South Asian... How the fuck such atypical ones (such faces could form 5% of whole Italy) are considered to represent Italians?

Don't ask me, I didn't choose them for the photoshoot.

I'd have picked them if doing an al-Andalus or Moorish Sicily fashion show, not a Greek one.



And people call Sicilians white but say Ashkenazi Jews arent :picard1:

Well some of these folks are quite atypical, but they're still part of the variation. I think they're overrepresented here though.

[GrebluBro]

And people call Sicilians white but say Ashkenazi Jews arent :picard1:

Ashkenazi Jews are all mixed with Northern (west/east) Euros..Sicilians remain the same as they were 2000 years ago or got darker

[Sikeliot]

Ashkenazi Jews are all mixed with Northern (west/east) Euros..Sicilians remain the same as they were 2000 years ago or got darker

Sicilians got lighter, not darker.
I doubt Palermo had nearly 30% light eyes before the Normans..

[GrebluBro]

Sicilians got lighter, not darker.
I doubt Palermo had nearly 30% light eyes before the Normans..

I expected this reply from you :P

if Sicilian were darker during Roman times, then most Roman elites must've been darker than current Central/North Italians (take whole region for anything)..
so swarthy people ruled Europe :heh:

[Sikeliot]

I expected this reply from you :P

if Sicilian were darker during Roman times, then most Roman elites must've been darker than Central/North Italians (take whole region for anything)..
so swarthy people ruled Europe :heh:


Sicilians were darker during ancient times because the lightest population to ever settle en masse were Normans and Lombards, who were not there until the Middle Ages. So before that, regardless of what Romans looked like (since they were not lighter than Lombards and Normans, and didn't even settle en masse), Sicilians were darker as a whole than today.

Think of this. Compare people in Enna to people in Palermo. The former have almost no Norman ancestry. They are noticeably darker.

[Styrian Mujo]

Sicilians got lighter, not darker.
I doubt Palermo had nearly 30% light eyes before the Normans..
With all the Italic and Hellenic migrations you would expect them to look central Euro however it's very clear that they don't and they have slave ancestry from Roman times.

[Styrian Mujo]

Sike google Villa Romana del Casale.

[Sikeliot]

Sike google Villa Romana del Casale.

That doesn't guarantee most of the population being Roman though.



With all the Italic and Hellenic migrations you would expect them to look central Euro however it's very clear that they don't and they have slave ancestry from Roman times.

Well, mainland Greece and central Italy would have had a significant amount of Northern European ancestry (and they still do, just less) but most of the Greeks in Sicily came from Asia Minor and the islands, not Epirus or Macedonia.

[GrebluBro]

Sicilians were darker during ancient times because the lightest population to ever settle en masse were Normans and Lombards, who were not there until the Middle Ages. So before that, regardless of what Romans looked like (since they were not lighter than Lombards and Normans, and didn't even settle en masse), Sicilians were darker as a whole than today.

Think of this. Compare people in Enna to people in Palermo. The former have almost no Norman ancestry. They are noticeably darker.

I think Sicily climate favors dark skin..doesn't it?

I don't think it is as hot as South India where no European could live (die of skin cancer) during ancient times.

[Sikeliot]

I'd like for people to go back to classifying the models, but I will just add that I can't imagine which population movement would have brought all the light coloring before the Normans.

[Sikeliot]

Of these 25 models, 5 of them have light eyes. So that's about 1/5.

[GrebluBro]

Of these 25 models, 5 of them have light eyes. So that's about 1/5.

Even some Rajastani and Bihari got light eyes...it won't mean a shit...
Only features matters. I hope you pointed out 1/5 for other members who're obsessed with light eyes

[Styrian Mujo]

I find it strange that all people in the mozaiks look Anglo-Saxonish while at the same time knowing that these mozaiks were made in sicilly.

[Sikeliot]

I find it strange that all people in the mozaiks look Anglo-Saxonish while at the same time knowing that these mozaiks were made in sicilly.

What do you mean?