Classify Pure Descendants of Illyrians. ( thread 39)

[Kastrioti1443]

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malësia

PS : For some clarifications. Malsia does not have 60,000 people like wikipedia states, but more than 250,000. Currently in Malsia are living around 80,000 albanians. The even takes place in 20 August, a lot of people might be very tanned because they come here after vacations. There might also be foreigners in the photos.

State the main phenotypes.

http://www.zaslike.com/files/0ns0sg05yg4nnarr99.jpg
http://us.123rf.com/450wm/ollirg/ollirg1309/ollirg130900135/22201713-lepushe-albania--august-11-2012-parade-of-some-competitors-to-miss-mountain-2012--albanian-miss-bjes.jpg
http://malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-10.jpg
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https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305233_10151154112235932_346406155_n.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zbGR2ZyZPP8/UPLzIhx8IsI/AAAAAAAAAsM/m8JEAhu37ns/s1600/K5__1170_ACRcrop_copy_6mp350px.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-49.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-51.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-27.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-28.jpg
Exclude the gypsy in the downright and the one standing in the far left
http://i.imgur.com/VcwpL.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/bwhe3weo3/4894605708_74d924d364_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z-_ippwd1FU/UDqCXWrEk0I/AAAAAAAAAFA/iapluMK5fYE/s1600/K5__1129_ACR_crop350px.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255405_10151154112495932_582729434_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4XXpfvQbFyw/UbZGJrjBflI/AAAAAAAADzw/6Zg1IX6orC0/s1600/4.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/65vgbt.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/OIm6yCJZ-Ww/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.malesori.eu/Vera_20007_005.jpg
http://264517.forumromanum.com/member/forum/images/17/user_264517/cms/Gruda1.jpg

[Trun]

Girls are very pretty.

Dinarids, Norids and Borrebies seem to be most common.

[cally]

Dinarid, Norid, gracile CM

[cally]

Gracile CM seems to be very common in Albanians like this Roman:
http://home.comcast.net/~lemavia/lemavia/Bust_Domitian_Musei_Capitolini_MC1156.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/andreas.pangerl/p-domitian-roma.JPG

[Kastrioti1443]

Gracile CM seems to be very common in Albanians like this Roman:
http://home.comcast.net/~lemavia/lemavia/Bust_Domitian_Musei_Capitolini_MC1156.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/andreas.pangerl/p-domitian-roma.JPG

Very true, but I think we need the confirmation of aherne about this.

[Kalimtari]

Highlander looks to the extreme. Xhubleta ueber rules! :D

[Chieftain]

The main phenotype is ancient pan european balkan borreby(like me), my area is the lightest region when it comes to blue/green eyes as almost one in two individuals has light eyes.
Common phenotypes are in lesser numbers dinarid cm and nordids and nordo cms, I am very proud I am from this region, 80% of my relatives and family have light eyes and all have very pale skin.

You can go throught all this region and you will not find any gypsy, turk, vlach or other non europeans, the armenoid element is unexistant, just like the east med and in very low numbers baltid.

Our population is very ancient and this region involves most Montenegro and western Dardania, its a boarreby heaven.

[Kastrioti1443]

The main phenotype is ancient pan european balkan borreby(like me), my area is the lightest region when it comes to blue/green eyes as almost one in two individuals has light eyes.
Common phenotypes are in lesser numbers dinarid cm and nordids and nordo cms, I am very proud I am from this region, 80% of my relatives and family have light eyes and all have very pale skin.

You can go throught all this region and you will not find any gypsy, turk, vlach or other non europeans, the armenoid element is unexistant, just like the east med and in very low numbers baltid.

Our population is very ancient and this region involves most Montenegro and western Dardania, its a boarreby heaven.
Vlachs are native europeans and balkaners, but with something more exotic in them.

[Smeagol]

Dinarid-Norid-Borreby-Nordoid.

[Skerdilaid]

Dinarid, reduced CM, Norids and North Pontid dominate. Damn, duhet me ardh vlla me marr i nuse atje nalt:D

[Kastrioti1443]

Dinarid, reduced CM, Norids and North Pontid dominate. Damn, duhet me ardh vlla me marr i nuse atje nalt:D

Kjo asht pamja e vertet e shqiptarve etnike, prandaj une insistoj, dhe disa ktu me quajne rraciste apo person qe kerkon ti nordifikoj shqiptaret... me marr nusen duhet me ardh sipas Kanunit :).

[zhaoyun]

Good looking people.

[Skerdilaid]

Kjo asht pamja e vertet e shqiptarve etnike, prandaj une insistoj, dhe disa ktu me quajne rraciste apo person qe kerkon ti nordifikoj shqiptaret... me marr nusen duhet me ardh sipas Kanunit :).

Jam dakort me ty kur te vjen puna te raca. Normal he vlla, se pa Kanun une as mengjesin se ha:)

[Kastrioti1443]

Jam dakort me ty kur te vjen puna te raca. Normal he vlla, se pa Kanun une as mengjesin se ha:)

Te kishin ken te tan si ty skerd, do ishta pune krejt ndryshe sot.... po sic e thote nje shprehja andej nga Laberia.... " Trimat u vrane ne lufte, te mencurit iken jashte, ktu ngelen budallenjte"...

[Skerdilaid]

Te kishin ken te tan si ty skerd, do ishta pune krejt ndryshe sot.... po sic e thote nje shprehja andej nga Laberia.... " Trimat u vrane ne lufte, te mencurit iken jashte, ktu ngelen budallenjte"...

Hahah Flm per compliment vlla, dhe te kena la ty atje mi qit ne ren;) Trimat normal qi jen vra gjithmone te na, e sidomos ne Kosove gjat tan ktyne luftave. Babgjyshi jem thojke "Trimat jen fliju e tucat dhe magjupt jan shtu":D

[ChocolateFace]

Dinaric,DInaro-Pontid,Noric,North Pontid,POntid,Borreby-Alpine,Nordid

I believe the Borreby element is underrepresented in the photos given.

[ChocolateFace]

Gracile CM seems to be very common in Albanians like this Roman:
http://home.comcast.net/~lemavia/lemavia/Bust_Domitian_Musei_Capitolini_MC1156.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/andreas.pangerl/p-domitian-roma.JPG

I agree with you that many people in this region are reduced CM/Borreby,Alpino-Borreby,Alpine/Borreby such as yourself.

This roman looks DInaro-Alpine. A type that can also be seen among ALbanians such as my dad but he has some CM too .

[Kastrioti1443]

Dinaric,DInaro-Pontid,Noric,North Pontid,Borreby-Alpine,Nordid

I believe the Borreby element is underrepresented in the photos given.

I do not see dinaro-pontids, but i agree with the other part. What do you mean Borreby is underrepresented?

[Kastrioti1443]

Dinaric,DInaro-Pontid,Noric,North Pontid,Borreby-Alpine,Nordid

I believe the Borreby element is underrepresented in the photos given.

I do not see dinaro-pontids, but i agree with the other part. What do you mean Borreby is underrepresented?

[ChocolateFace]

I do not see dinaro-pontids, but i agree with the other part. What do you mean Borreby is underrepresented?

I believe the Borreby element among these people is much greater then these photos show. Dinaro-Pontids can be seen among the longer headed population.

[aherne]

Dinaric, Balkan CM, Pontid, Alpine, Aryan.

[aherne]

Gracile CM seems to be very common in Albanians like this Roman:
http://home.comcast.net/~lemavia/lemavia/Bust_Domitian_Musei_Capitolini_MC1156.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/andreas.pangerl/p-domitian-roma.JPG

Not an Italic face, but not that far off either (Dinaric was uncommon in Italics). Domitian was apparently of Illyrian ancestry, which is why in real life he would have looked textbook Albanian/Yugoslav.

[Kalimtari]

Not an Italic face, but not that far off either (Dinaric was uncommon in Italics). Domitian was apparently of Illyrian ancestry, which is why in real life he would have looked textbook Albanian/Yugoslav.

could pass as Romanian as well (IMO)

[Hellenas]

Mediterraneans seems common among them...

http://us.123rf.com/450wm/ollirg/ollirg1309/ollirg130900135/22201713-lepushe-albania--august-11-2012-parade-of-some-competitors-to-miss-mountain-2012--albanian-miss-bjes.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255405_10151154112495932_582729434_n.jpg

.... along with Dinarics and Alpines.

Afterall, Illirios, the founder of Illyrians, was Greek.

Illyrius

Illyrius (Ancient Greek: Ιλλυριός) is a name known in different stories found in ancient Greek mythology.

Origins

Cadmus and Harmonia

According to the Bibliotheca, Illyrius was the youngest son of Cadmus(Greko-Phoenician) and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[1] Illyrius was specifically born during an expedition against the Illyrians on the side of the Encheleans.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrius

[Kalimtari]

Illyrius thingy is a legend, not an empirical fact, I hope you're aware of that?

[aherne]

Mediterraneans seems common among them...

http://us.123rf.com/450wm/ollirg/ollirg1309/ollirg130900135/22201713-lepushe-albania--august-11-2012-parade-of-some-competitors-to-miss-mountain-2012--albanian-miss-bjes.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255405_10151154112495932_582729434_n.jpg

.... along with Dinarics and Alpines.

Afterall, Illirios, the founder of Illyrians, was Greek.

You remind me of Blogen. Crack-powered thinking at its finest!

[Hellenas]

Illyrius thingy is a legend, not an empirical fact, I hope you're aware of that?

Hail Hellas, we found everything, all Europe is our creation.

[Hellenas]

You remind me of Blogen. Crack-powered thinking at its finest!

Dear "Germanic Aryan", it's not my problem if you don't know anything of Mediterraneans in Albania, read that:

Albania and the Dinaric Race

(3) A tall, dolichocephalic or mesocephalic type with dark hair and dark brown eyes, a straight nasal profile, and a tendency toward a lesser leptorrhiny than the total group. This is an Atlanto-Mediterranean racial type which is also prevalent in other Balkan countries. It may also be sorted out of available statistical series of Greeks, while it is common in Bulgaria and easily distinguishable among Serbs. It, or a similar type, also occurs with Dinarics in northern Italy and the Tyrol. In northern Albania it is commonest in Malsia Jakovλs and Dukagin.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII13.htm

[Kalimtari]

Hail Hellas, we found everything, all Europe is our creation.

cool, good for you

[aherne]

Dear "Germanic Aryan", it's not my problem if you don't know anything of Mediterraneans in Albania, read that:



Of course I know about this. However, you seem to relate everything to Greeks in a madman fashion and, like Bloggen, have "facts" on your slieve. I have to admit you make more sense than Bloggen, who is lately completely removed from reality...

[Kastrioti1443]

Mediterraneans seems common among them...

http://us.123rf.com/450wm/ollirg/ollirg1309/ollirg130900135/22201713-lepushe-albania--august-11-2012-parade-of-some-competitors-to-miss-mountain-2012--albanian-miss-bjes.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255405_10151154112495932_582729434_n.jpg

.... along with Dinarics and Alpines.

Afterall, Illirios, the founder of Illyrians, was Greek.

Illyrius

Illyrius (Ancient Greek: Ιλλυριός) is a name known in different stories found in ancient Greek mythology.

Origins

Cadmus and Harmonia

According to the Bibliotheca, Illyrius was the youngest son of Cadmus(Greko-Phoenician) and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[1] Illyrius was specifically born during an expedition against the Illyrians on the side of the Encheleans.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrius

The '' mediterranid'' you mention is not common among them, but if you are saying '' greek'' med, than these people look nothing like greeks.

The girls look nothing like average greek girl, and the biggest difference is on males. These males are pale skinned of Dinarid, Dinaro-Pontid, Norid, Borreby and North Pontid types with different features, very different from greeks.

The biggest difference is in this crowd photo ( even though it is a small photo, you can see carefully every face there)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zbGR2ZyZPP8/UPLzIhx8IsI/AAAAAAAAAsM/m8JEAhu37ns/s1600/K5__1170_ACRcrop_copy_6mp350px.jpg

Modern greeks have very small to nothing in common with ancient ones.

[kuqezi]

Gracile CM seems to be very common in Albanians like this Roman:
http://home.comcast.net/~lemavia/lemavia/Bust_Domitian_Musei_Capitolini_MC1156.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/andreas.pangerl/p-domitian-roma.JPG

^Albin Kurti the time traveller

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--UCwycdGtgI/TkBEcsLHE9I/AAAAAAAADAQ/I-tRsJ41F2w/s1600/Jetmir%2BIdrizi_Albin%2BKurti%2BInterviste02_53702 7_thumb_large_553886_thumb_large.jpg

[Kastrioti1443]

^Albin Kurti the time traveller

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--UCwycdGtgI/TkBEcsLHE9I/AAAAAAAADAQ/I-tRsJ41F2w/s1600/Jetmir%2BIdrizi_Albin%2BKurti%2BInterviste02_53702 7_thumb_large_553886_thumb_large.jpg

Good example.

Albin Kurti is a good man and one of the few who works with passion. However his party is more in the nationalist side,, not extreme though, because EULEX would arrest all it's members if it would be like that. One thing i don't like about him is the high nr of gypsies and ashkalis this man has in his party.... in Vetvendosje protests, you often see a large nr of these people, and this is a very bed thing considering the spectrum of his party... I mean the 2nd man in charge in Vetvendosje, a half-Gypsy, now become the mayor of Prishtina... the 3rd or 4th man in charge is a an Ashkali too, a tall one.... I do not know what the fuck he is doing.

[Hellenas]

The '' mediterranid'' you mention is not common among them, but if you are saying '' greek'' med, than these people look nothing like greeks.

Why we must repeat same things all the time, can you tell me?

I didn't said that these people look like Greeks, I said that the Meds among them look like Greek Meds, understand dear Albanian troll?


The girls look nothing like average greek girl, and the biggest difference is on males. These males are pale skinned of Dinarid, Dinaro-Pontid, Norid, Borreby and North Pontid types with different features, very different from greeks.

You forgot the Meds among them, not very smart from your side, as you expose yourself and everybody can see what a big troll you are.

Let's see now the pigmentation of the Greeks:

"THE 90% OF THE PERSONS WE STUDIED HAVE WHITE SKIN COLOR. RARELY SOMEONE MEETS DARK SKIN COLOR AND EVEN MORE RARELY VERY DARK SKIN COLOR. VERY LIGHT SKIN COLOR IS MET MORE OFTEN THAN DARK SKIN COLOR." Aris Poulianos(Anthropologist/Paleoanthropologist).


Modern greeks have very small to nothing in common with ancient ones.

You say troll, it seems you repeat the same thing in every post, but let's see what the Scientists have to say about:

Carleton Stevens Coon:

The modern inhabitants of Greece itself differ surprisingly little from their classical predecessors.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-V4.htm

It is inaccurate to say that the modern Greeks are different physically from the ancient Greeks; such a statement is based on an ignorance of the Greek ethnic character.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm

It is my personal reaction to the living Greeks that their continuity with their ancestors of the ancient world is remarkable, rather than the opposite.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm

J. Lawrence Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.”

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/

Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/

Finally, a more recent statistical comparison of ancient and modern Greek skulls resulted in the discovery of “a remarkable similarity in craniofacial morphology between modern and ancient Greeks.”

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/

Poulianos’ conclusions of Greek continuity are not simply the wishful thinking of a modern Greek. In a critical review of his book , J. Lawrence Angel states that “Poulianos is correct in pointing out ... that there is complete continuity genetically from ancient to modern times.”

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/

A comparative cephalometric investigation of the Greek craniofacial pattern through 4,000 years.

A comparative cephalometric investigation was conducted between modern and ancient Greeks to determine craniofacial characteristics and to examine the significance of ethnic heritage. The modern sample was composed of 54 individuals chosen on the basis of ethnic background, normal occlusion and facial harmony. The ancient sample consisted of 40 skulls with normal occlusion dated back to the Minoan civilization (ca. 1,800-1,200 B.C.). A remarkable similarity in craniofacial morphology was revealed between the two groups, suggesting a close genetic affinity between modern and ancient Greeks. The ability of the craniofacial complex to make compensatory or balancing changes was noted. The craniofacial complex was seen to function as an integrated biological entity. Moreover, the cranial base showed a definite influence on skeletal profile configuration. These results provide a more comprehensive understanding of how craniofacial variables interact and contribute to the morphology of the dentofacial skeleton.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2672905

THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki):

"Τhe DNA of the Greeks has the following origin: 8% in recent years (about 3,000 years from now), 20% during the Neolithic period (9000-3000), 44% in the last upper Paleolithic era ( 14500-9000), 14.5% on average over the Paleolithic era (26,000 to 14,500 years) and a 11% in the original upper Paleolithic era (45.500 -26.000)."

THE GREEK DNA HAS NOT CHANGED OVER THE LAST 3,000 YEARS. GREEKS ARE GREEKS ACCORDING TO MODERN SCIENCE OF GENETICS.

http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece

[Styrian Mujo]

Taurid,CM with Pontid and minor Nordid Indo-European influence.

[Kastrioti1443]

^^ You post the same bullshit every time.

[armenianbodyhair]

gracile CM

Sorry can you explain plz?

[Styrian Mujo]

^^ You post the same bullshit every time.
I have the right to do so.

[cally]

Sorry can you explain plz?

Basically reduced CM .. Znzn seems to know more , you can ask him if he's around (?)

[Skerdilaid]

Good example.

Albin Kurti is a good man and one of the few who works with passion. However his party is more in the nationalist side,, not extreme though, because EULEX would arrest all it's members if it would be like that. One thing i don't like about him is the high nr of gypsies and ashkalis this man has in his party.... in Vetvendosje protests, you often see a large nr of these people, and this is a very bed thing considering the spectrum of his party... I mean the 2nd man in charge in Vetvendosje, a half-Gypsy, now become the mayor of Prishtina... the 3rd or 4th man in charge is a an Ashkali too, a tall one.... I do not know what the fuck he is doing.

Most of his supporters are city dwellers in general, even though that has changed a bit in the recent years, and that is why you see mixed folks in his crowds. And to answer you question simply, the nationalists that would actually grab a gun for their land are a minority in his group. Traditional Albo regions were the strong hold for KLA, so AAK and PDK have those regions in the hands for now, even though they have slimy leaders.

[Kastrioti1443]

I have the right to do so.

I was talking to Hellenas.

[Styrian Mujo]

I was talking to Hellenas.
Whoops my mistake,:)although you could have quoted him

[kuqezi]

Kastrioti, how do u know the mayor of prishtina is half gypsy?

[Kastrioti1443]

Kastrioti, how do u know the mayor of prishtina is half gypsy?

Well, first of all he looks like it, secondly, his father is a gypsy from mitrovica, the illyrian warrior has more info about this.

[Chieftain]

Great, all I needed was the great wisdom of Hellenas, proving that not only this galaxy was initiated by greeks but even the multi verse was a greek idea...

Anyway, the med element is barely unexistant in our phenotypes, I will post a new precise thread soon.

[Chieftain]

:picard1::picard1:

[Kastrioti1443]

These are the most famous people of Malsia e Madhe of the last years, but also historically. Excalibur can add more:

1. http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/Gentiana_b/Prekcali.gif
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qdr2w1PNnCU/SLb44wBmCxI/AAAAAAAAAQs/mSs-tZaf-wA/s1600/prek%2Bcali.bmp

2. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Ded_gjo_luli.gif/220px-Ded_gjo_luli.gif

3. http://www.tekstevideo.com/img_upz/cdcover_full/1754.jpg

4. https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn2/t1/c3.0.175.175/s160x160/1505056_720742864605420_581196478_a.jpg

5. http://www.farmington.k12.mi.us/fhs/athletics/soccer/coach-luc.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/luke-juncaj011.jpg

6. http://www.shkoder.net/images/fjala/gjeke_marinaj2.jpg

7. http://korneri.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/vajushi.jpg
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/armando-vajushi.jpg

8. http://www.ekstraklasa.org/data/cache/670x671/Bekim%20Balaj.JPG
http://i.imgur.com/AKNhe.jpg

9. http://www.cornerflag.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Curo.jpg
http://www.fjala.info/2012/elvana_curo.jpg

10. http://www.football-talents.co.uk/player_img/Ervis-Kraja-01.jpg

11. http://www.dritaislame.al/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Gezim-Uruci.jpg

12. http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01388/rudivata_1388206a.jpg


13. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/6/67/Paulin_Sterkaj.JPG


14. http://gazeta-shqip.com/lajme/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Gjovalin-Kadeli-e1365065680557.jpg

15. http://www.voal-online.ch/images/articles/2013_09/36756/u2_miss-irena-11.jpg

[Kalimtari]

nr. 9

http://mattcbr.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/drooling_homer.gif?w=314

[oh-nahhh]

Dinarids mixed with local CM and Alpine mostly.

[ChocolateFace]

These are the most famous people of Malsia e Madhe of the last years, but also historically. Excalibur can add more:



Dinaric some cm but also Dinaric-CM even, Noric-Nordid,Borreby,Noric-CM some Alpinid visible here too. These are not in order.

The last girl is very beautiful and looks almost exactly like some girl from Ulqin I know. Makes sense since they are NorthWestern Albanians.