Horn Africans are not Black

[Cush]

I don't mean to be racist. But the Horners such as Amahara's, Tigre, Somali, Afar, Oromo, Beja, Nubians are not Negro at all. We don't even speak Niger-congo langauge, our langauge family is in the same classification as Arabic, Hebrew, and Berber.

Many Afrocentrics will talk about Egypt or the Horn before they even talk about their West African ancestry. The only history that Horners had with Bantus, is enslaving them. It was not untill the Italians outlawed Slavery in Ethiopia and Somalia in the 1930's that Bantus were freed.

If Afrocentrics want to claim anyone in Africa why dont they claim North Africas (they already claim ancient Egypt as Black). If they want to claim anyone with Brown skin, why don't they claim Indians?


How do you feel about this.

[Maleficent]

Wadaad is coming for you.:laugh:

Okay, you are linguistically and culturally Afro-Asiatic/Semitic. Too bad the average person thinks of Arab or Levantine or Jewish or Berber when they hear 'Afro-Asiatic'.:shrug:

[Anglojew]

No, they're just very very dark brown.

[StonyArabia]

Horn Africans have a lot of Arabian blood most of it interestingly on their maternal line. Though it depends on what you mean by Black,White, or Brown those terms are superfacial and have no genetic basis in reality. Horners are Africans though.

[Anglojew]

By "black" do you mean "negro"?

No one thinks you're negrid eg John Baker;

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/mapforNegrids.jpg

[Smeagol]

I agree with you.

[Smeagol]

Yeah, John Baker classified Aethiopids as mostly Europid.

[Cush]

I feel as if Blacks(especially in the new world) try to use Cushitic people as a stepping stone to uplift themselves for things they have never achieved or looks they do not posses. I have literally witnessed a Black coworker get offended because others told her she looks west african (and she does), but she said she looks Ethiopian. Mind you I get second hand embaressment very easily.

Anyway, Blacks and Horners never get along, it is only Afrocentrics online who try to use our name, to some how prove something to Europeans. I am a firm believer that everyone should be proud of what they have, even if it is not much. I am from Somalia, despite some obstacles :rolleyes: I still am Proud to be Somali, and would never claim anything other than that.

Blacks should be proud of who they are and of their west african heritage, instead of running after women of different races and claiming to be Hebrews, Ancient Egyptians and other crazy things.

[Smeagol]

Yeah I agree, everyone should be proud of their own history. I think afrocentrists should stop claiming the Egyptian, Nubian, Horner kingdoms, etc, and leave those to their true descendants who live in those areas today.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

West africans are a mix of pygmy and semitic tribes who moved west into africa then south about 3k years ago. You have some relation, but they have ancient horner mix not the other way around.

[Cush]

Wadaad is coming for you.:laugh:

Okay, you are linguistically and culturally Afro-Asiatic/Semitic. Too bad the average person thinks of Arab or Levantine or Jewish or Berber when they hear 'Afro-Asiatic'.:shrug:


Nothing wrong with being African, even though it does not hold water where I am from. It's like telling an America that they are a 'North American'. Even genetics, history, linguistics, culture, geography all point us being different than Negroids. And I believe the vast majority of people know this, except for Afrocentrics who like to claim anyone who looks 'exotic'.


I believe this stems from the history of Blacks as slaves and colonization. Since they have nothing to point to in terms of history, as it largely revolved around slavery, they want to reinvent a history that they never had, largely by making up stuff like


1. They are ancient Egyptians
2. Horners are related to them
3. They are Hebrews/Jews

[Cush]

Wadaad is coming for you.:laugh:

Okay, you are linguistically and culturally Afro-Asiatic/Semitic. Too bad the average person thinks of Arab or Levantine or Jewish or Berber when they hear 'Afro-Asiatic'.:shrug:


Nothing wrong with being African, even though it does not hold water where I am from. It's like telling an America that they are a 'North American'. Even genetics, history, linguistics, culture, geography all point us being different than Negroids. And I believe the vast majority of people know this, except for Afrocentrics who like to claim anyone who looks 'exotic'.


I believe this stems from the history of Blacks as slaves and colonization. Since they have nothing to point to in terms of history, as it largely revolved around slavery, they want to reinvent a history that they never had, largely by making up stuff like


1. They are ancient Egyptians
2. Horners are related to them
3. They are Hebrews/Jews

[Cush]

West africans are a mix of pygmy and semitic tribes who moved west into africa then south about 3k years ago. You have some relation, but they have ancient horner mix not the other way around.

By that Logic than all humans have Horner in them.

[Amud]

West africans are a mix of pygmy and semitic tribes who moved west into africa then south about 3k years ago. You have some relation, but they have ancient horner mix not the other way around.

If that's the case, then why aren't they small in size?

Also, where does the Nilotid race come from?

[Cush]

Probably the funniest and most Ironic video on youtube. These African Americans are arguing with two Ethiopian girls on how Black Americans are Jewish, even though the Ethiopians girls speak Hebrew and are Jewish.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rR3kctCsRs

[GrebluBro]

I//.

Who isn't Somalian here?

http://www.xikmo.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ocean-Stars1.jpg
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[Cush]

Who isn't Somalian here?

http://www.xikmo.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ocean-Stars1.jpg
45753

It's Somali not Somalian. I do see two Bantus on the top row stand up 4 and 5t from the left

[GrebluBro]

Everyone is Somali. It's Somali not Somalian.

OK thx..majority of them look Black even by features..

[Cush]

OK thx..majority of them look Black even by features..


You can easily tell they are Somali, and look much different than the 4th and 5th guy from the left on the row standing up.

You can even tell by the hair. As Somalis have looser hair than Negroids, and we have high foreheads.

We are not Negro, but ofcourse are darker skinned.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

If that's the case, then why aren't they small in size?

Natural selection



Also, where does the Nilotid race come from?

Basically lots of back and forth between eurasia and SSA, with an original north african component that was literally nordic 6+k years ago. Which is why sami have the 'nilotic' component.

[Also]

Although horners are somehow different from west africans, I wouldn't seriously consider them something else than black.

[Cush]

Just compare these 4 models. They are described as left to right.

1st: Somali

2nd: Ethiopian

3rd: Kenyan

4th: South Sudan

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[GrebluBro]

You can easily tell they are Somali, and look much different than the 4th and 5th guy from the left on the row standing up.

You can even tell by the hair. As Somalis have looser hair than Negroids, and we have high foreheads.

We are not Negro, but ofcourse are darker skinned.

May be 1/3rd of Somali look totally different..
Hair type of Ethiopians and Somali are somewhat closer to Negroids.. you guys look kinda half Negroids most of the time to common people

[Cush]

Just compare these 4 models. They are described as left to right.

1st: Somali

2nd: Ethiopian

3rd: Kenyan

4th: South Sudan

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[zhaoyun]

Of course Horners are very different from West Africans. They are two different groups. But it doesn't mean that Horners are not "Black". That term in itself is defined by the Western experience anyways. Horners would still be considered Black in most senses.

[GrebluBro]

Just compare these 4 models. They are described as left to right.

1st: Somali

2nd: Ethiopian

3rd: Kenyan

4th: South Sudan

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Ethiopian girl is very atypical
Somali looks very close to this African American

http://www.hdpaperwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Kerry-Washington.jpg
South Sudan are the blackest (nothing wrong) people..so not surprised

[Cush]

May be 1/3rd of Somali look totally different..
Hair type of Ethiopians and Somali are somewhat closer to Negroids.. you guys look kinda half Negroids most of the time to common people

Somalis are homogenous and we are the same ethnic group. Despite having darker skin, we have different features. Genetics points this out, and their is no point in selecting pictures as this is unscientific, I can post pictures of Somali who could pass for Arab, but majority of Somalis don't look like that.

[Cush]

Ethiopian girl is very atypical
Somali looks very close to African American
South Sudan are the blackest (nothing wrong) people..so not surprised

So you believe that the Somali girl looks like African American? lmao, The Somali girl looks no different than the Ethiopian girl, they both have the same complexion and features. And what city do you live in, when African Americans who wear weaves, look like that Somali model?

[GrebluBro]

So you believe that the Somali girl looks like African American? lmao, The Somali girl looks no different than the Ethiopian girl, they both have the same complexion and features. And what city do you live in, when African Americans who wear weaves, look like that Somali model?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45754&d=1395724826http://www.hdpaperwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Kerry-Washington.jpg

[Cush]

Of course Horners are very different from West Africans. They are two different groups. But it doesn't mean that Horners are not "Black". That term in itself is defined by the Western experience anyways. Horners would still be considered Black in most senses.

Black as in skin color, Yes. Black as Negroid phuck NO.

[zhaoyun]

Somalis are homogenous and we are the same ethnic group. Despite having darker skin, we have different features. Genetics points this out, and their is no point in selecting pictures as this is unscientific, I can post pictures of Somali who could pass for Arab, but majority of Somalis don't look like that.

I don't think anyone here is arguing that Somalis do not have different features than West Africans. They do look very different. At the same time, they still fall within the range that would be considered "Black" in the Western world.

[Cush]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45754&d=1395724826http://www.hdpaperwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Kerry-Washington.jpg

So you posted a Black American who has more admixture of European genes than the typical Black, to prove Somalis look like Blacks?

You proved my point by taking a Black American who has heavy admixture and comparing them to a Somali.

Fyi even though the girl you posted is light skin, I can see she has west african heritage as she has alot of testastrone and looks very manly.

Somali women are very feminent.
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[Smeagol]

OK thx..majority of them look Black even by features..

Not really. Negroid Bantus:
http://www.africarte.it/foto-storiche/Fang%20del%20Gabon.JPG

Horners:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg535/scaled.php?server=535&filename=220pxabdullahiyusufahme.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg200/scaled.php?server=200&filename=marcussamuelsonoriental.png&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg521/scaled.php?server=521&filename=47731982318661715.gif&res=medium

[GrebluBro]

So you posted a Black American who has more admixture of European genes than the typical Black, to prove Somalis look like Blacks?

You proved my point by taking a Black American who has heavy admixture and comparing them to a Somali.

Fyi even though the girl you posted is light skin, I can see she has west african heritage as she has alot of testastrone and looks very manly.

Somali women are very feminent.
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Somali =/= pure Negroid
but many Somali look pseudo Afram (with 25% or more Euro genes) which make Somalis are black

[zhaoyun]

Not really. Negroid Bantus:
http://www.africarte.it/foto-storiche/Fang%20del%20Gabon.JPG

Horners:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg535/scaled.php?server=535&filename=220pxabdullahiyusufahme.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg200/scaled.php?server=200&filename=marcussamuelsonoriental.png&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg521/scaled.php?server=521&filename=47731982318661715.gif&res=medium

Yeah, but you are cherry picking. Those are the Horners who look more Arab, and yes, there is a significant portion that do look like that. But the majority of Somalis are still clearly Black African, even though they look very different from West Africans.

[GrebluBro]

So you posted a Black American who has more admixture of European genes than the typical Black, to prove Somalis look like Blacks?

You proved my point by taking a Black American who has heavy admixture and comparing them to a Somali.

Fyi even though the girl you posted is light skin, I can see she has west african heritage as she has alot of testastrone and looks very manly.

Somali women are very feminent.
4575545756

I posted famous actress Kerry Washington b4..

At least 3 of these five women you posted pass as Afram

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45756&d=1395725275

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45755&d=1395725259

[Cush]

Yeah, but you are cherry picking. Those are the Horners who look more Arab, and yes, there is a significant portion that do look like that. But the majority of Somalis are still clearly Black African, even though they look very different from West Africans.



His not cherry picking as the Somali president is ethnically Somali, and not all ethiopians are Cushitic/Semetic.

Somali women.

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[GrebluBro]

Not really. Negroid Bantus:


I agree they look different from Negroids..
But as I show in pics, many of them easily pass as Afram in the US

[Cush]

How do you guys get the pictures to show up. My pictures just look like links.

[Smeagol]

Yeah, but you are cherry picking. Those are the Horners who look more Arab, and yes, there is a significant portion that do look like that. But the majority of Somalis are still clearly Black African, even though they look very different from West Africans.

Somalis don't look really black african at all. They have very dark skin of course, but in racial traits the average Somali is clearly closer to Caucasoids. Honestly these people would never be mistaken for American blacks.

[Cush]

I agree they look different from Negroids..
But as I show in pics, many of them easily pass as Afram in the US

Are you an African American who is trying to troll me?

Black women are notorious for bleaching and wearing fake hair.

Plus you are selecting the lightest skin blacks, with european features and comparing them to indigenous Somalis and Habeshas.

[GrebluBro]

How do you guys get the pictures to show up. My pictures just look like links.

Use this
link

[GrebluBro]

only one girl doesn't pass as Afram :picard2:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45757&d=1395725615


Somalis are black

[zhaoyun]

His not cherry picking as the Somali president is ethnically Somali, and not all ethiopians are Cushitic/Semetic.

Somali women.

45757

1. The women you've posted are very attractive, I'm not here to argue that

2. Yes, they look VERY different than West Africans, their features are obviously very different

3. They still fall within the range that is considered "Black" in the Western world.

The term Black covers a wide range of African, or part African features in the Western world. Even Mulattoes who are clearly heavily mixed are considered Black. So Horners are still within the phenotypical range of what is considered "Black" in the Western world, it's all arbitrary anyways.

[Cush]

Use this
link

Thanks man, you Indians are really good IT people. :p

[zhaoyun]

only one girl doesn't pass as Afram :picard2:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45757&d=1395725615


Somalis are black

Actually, they would all pass as Afram. I've had Afram female friends who were even lighter and less Black looking than them and they considered themselves Black, as did everyone around them.

[GrebluBro]

Are you an African American who is trying to troll me?

Black women are notorious for bleaching and wearing fake hair.

Plus you are selecting the lightest skin blacks, with european features and comparing them to indigenous Somalis and Habeshas.

I'm not Afram..I posted only one actress..I use only your pics to prove majority of Somalis pass as Black in the US..

[Cush]

only one girl doesn't pass as Afram :picard2:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45757&d=1395725615


Somalis are black


what you fail to understand is, the Blacks you see change their appearance to look like Horners by bleaching and wearing weaves and having surgery. We to them are an ideal of beauty to aspire to.

The avearge black woman is heavy set, heavy build, very nappy hair, wide nose. While average somali woman is tall, lanky, high forehead, curly hair, narrower features.


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[zhaoyun]

Somalis don't look really black african at all. They have very dark skin of course, but in racial traits the average Somali is clearly closer to Caucasoids. Honestly these people would never be mistaken for American blacks.

I think they clearly look different than most American Blacks, but still fall within the Western category of "black".

[GrebluBro]

Actually, they would all pass as Afram. I've had Afram female friends who were even lighter and less Black looking than them and they considered themselves Black, as did everyone around them.

I agree...
90% of Aframs don't look West Africans, but they are taken Blacks..
Excluding minority of Somalis, most of them are Blacks..
They got thick lips, protruding mouth region which are also close to Negroid features..

[Cush]

only one girl doesn't pass as Afram :picard2:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45757&d=1395725615


Somalis are black


what you fail to understand is, the Blacks you see change their appearance to look like Horners by bleaching and wearing weaves and having surgery. We to them are an ideal of beauty to aspire to.

The avearge black woman is heavy set, heavy build, very nappy hair, wide nose. While average somali woman is tall, lanky, high forehead, curly hair, narrower features.


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[Smeagol]

More examples of Horner types:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg59/scaled.php?server=59&filename=mediterranoid.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg695/scaled.php?server=695&filename=kagamesmall.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg94/scaled.php?server=94&filename=4461655929db0aa65ee1.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg411/scaled.php?server=411&filename=1092757454212d44dd0.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg443/scaled.php?server=443&filename=somaliaethiopid.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg16/scaled.php?server=16&filename=ismaaciil1.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg41/scaled.php?server=41&filename=simonasfeha.jpg&res=medium

http://www.galcad24.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/galcad24.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg641/scaled.php?server=641&filename=nuradinmahamoudabdi.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg534/scaled.php?server=534&filename=somalimanmainelagislatu.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg847/scaled.php?server=847&filename=menschenrassen1rp3.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg255/scaled.php?server=255&filename=aethiopid2.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg525/scaled.php?server=525&filename=somal11.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg59/scaled.php?server=59&filename=nardos1m2.jpg&res=medium

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/500/misstourismafrica2005.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg546/scaled.php?server=546&filename=img00000lgg.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg836/scaled.php?server=836&filename=frezer1.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg189/scaled.php?server=189&filename=s06uu.jpg&res=medium

[Cush]

Will someone please help me on posting pictures.

[GrebluBro]

More examples of Horner types:
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Here majority of them aren't Black, but common Horners don't look like them

[Smeagol]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg718/scaled.php?server=718&filename=1araboaethiopid.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg543/scaled.php?server=543&filename=2haileselaissa.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg97/scaled.php?server=97&filename=3saranuru.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg683/scaled.php?server=683&filename=4araboaeth.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg20/scaled.php?server=20&filename=3araboaeth.png&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg825/scaled.php?server=825&filename=5fannahailesellaise.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg155/scaled.php?server=155&filename=sehinbelewsouthmediterr.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg200/scaled.php?server=200&filename=marcussamuelsonoriental.png&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg90/scaled.php?server=90&filename=iranidtomediterranidton.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg849/scaled.php?server=849&filename=somalisouthmediterranid.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg291/scaled.php?server=291&filename=dinarid.jpg&res=medium
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7056/1dinaroaethiopidsomali.jpg
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg202/scaled.php?server=202&filename=leptodolichomorphertype.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg510/scaled.php?server=510&filename=cromagnosouthmediterran.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg28/scaled.php?server=28&filename=ubahsouthmediterranid.jpg&res=medium

[zhaoyun]

More examples of Horner types:

]

Im well aware of Horner phenotypes. They have features that typically are considered more "Caucasian" though they are indigenous to the region. However, these people still fall within the range that is considered "Black" in the Western sense. It's an artificial term anyways.

[Smeagol]

Here majority of them aren't Black, but common Horners don't look like them

How do you know what common Horners look like?

[GrebluBro]

Will someone please help me on posting pictures.

Dude copy a link ..
type "" exactly..paste the link...type "" after that pasted link..

[Smeagol]

Will someone please help me on posting pictures.

[Cush]

Here majority of them aren't Black, but common Horners don't look like them

The Somalis he posted look like typical Somalis in terms of features. Somalis are ethnically homogenous and speak the same langauge and have same religion and culture.

This Somali guys is the Governor of the Central Bank.
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[Anglojew]

Easy question to prove whether or not you should be classed as an AA

Are you on welfare?

[Cush]

Here majority of them aren't Black, but common Horners don't look like them

The Somalis he posted look like typical Somalis in terms of features. Somalis are ethnically homogenous and speak the same langauge and have same religion and culture.

This Somali guys is the Governor of the Central Bank.


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[Smeagol]

Im well aware of Horner phenotypes. They have features that typically are considered more "Caucasian" though they are indigenous to the region. However, these people still fall within the range that is considered "Black" in the Western sense. It's an artificial term anyways.

Yeah, maybe, but I think this has more to do with their skin color, because they're obviously more Caucasoid when it comes to race. A lot of their genes also come from the Middle East.

[GrebluBro]

How do you know what common Horners look like?

I should've said not all horners look like them..
did you check Somali football team?
Somali rufugees pics or any crowd pics? max half of them can't pass as Afram

Many of them got thick lips and protruding mouth area, similar to Aframs

[Cush]

Easy question to prove whether or not you should be classed as an AA

Are you on welfare?

Lmao, No. I am not. I was at one time, but I came to USA as a refugee, so it's not fair to compare me to Blacks who lived here for 500 years.

[Anglojew]

Lmao, No. I am not. I was at one time, but I came to USA as a refugee, so it's not fair to compare me to Blacks who lived here for 500 years.

Not Negrid.

You probably are technically "black" though. It's a problematic term I'd say.

[Cush]

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Somali model

[GrebluBro]

what percent of Somalis look like this guy?


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45759&d=1395726366

[Cush]

Not Negrid.

You probably are technically "black" though. It's a problematic term I'd say.


I agree. Race is a social construct. Somalis/Ethiopians speak same langauge family as Hebrew/Arabic/Berber. We have black skin, narrow features.

My point is I believe Horners should be their own group, as we don't have anything in common with Bantus.

[Cush]

what percent of Somalis look like this guy?


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45759&d=1395726366



Well he is ethnic Somali, meaning he comes from the one of the 4 big Somali clans that make up the somali ethnicity.

These are the last three Somali presidents.

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[GrebluBro]

Well he is ethnic Somali, meaning he comes from the one of the 4 big Somali clans that make up the somali ethnicity.

These are the last three Somali presidents.

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Aforementioned guy isn't Black at all, but only minority of Somalis got his features..
Many Somalis look like some kind of Afram..

[MINARDOWICZ]

Horners are black, come on. They just are not west african. You are unique and that can be acknowledged, but you are not white. You are actually QUITE dark and have many unique SSA features, but also features big time overlapping with people of the Arabian peninsula and northern Africa BOTH. So... a unique group, really. Brown a better word? :p

[Cush]

Horners are black, come on. They just are not west african. You are unique and that can be acknowledged, but you are not white. You are actually QUITE dark and have many unique SSA features, but also features big time overlapping with people of the Arabian peninsula and northern Africa BOTH. So... a unique group, really. Brown a better word? :p


It's not about the label, so much as being in the same group as West Africans, who despise us. I am trying to protect Cushitic people so they are not eliminated from this planet by thristy Bantus who run after our women. And attempt to use our culture and history for their own political purposes.

[GrebluBro]

It's not about the label, so much as being in the same group as West Africans, who despise us. I am trying to protect Cushitic people so they are not eliminated from this planet by thristy Bantus who run after our women. And attempt to use our culture and history for their own political purposes.

LOL....with 7-8 children per woman, Somalis would be the last ethnic group to extinct..
I expect horners would be 10+ % in Scandinavia by 2030..:thumb001:

[Cush]

Aforementioned guy isn't Black at all, but only minority of Somalis got his features..
Many Somalis look like some kind of Afram..

So your saying every last president of Somalia is not reflective of how the people look? Even the guy who runs the central bank? Lmao.

Now I see you are just trolling me.

What about the 2 governors of the two regions in the North Somaliland, and Puntland

4576745768

[Cush]

LOL....with 7-8 children per woman, Somalis would be the last ethnic group to extinct

But 4 of those kids are going to die of hunger or something, and 3 have to die fighting some foreign occupier. So no, we are going to go extinct.

[Cush]

LOL....with 7-8 children per woman, Somalis would be the last ethnic group to extinct..
I expect horners would be 10+ % in Scandinavia by 2030..:thumb001:

I doubt that. There are 5 Million Somalis in Ethiopia, 1 Million in Djibouti, 4 Million in Kenya, and 12 Million in Somalia, 1 Million in Yemen.

We are one of the few people who left their country out of necessity, because it was not peaceful, we will go back to rebuild, as we have a governement now after 20 years without a central government. A big Phuck up if you ask me. Somalis are xenophobic people, they will ultimately go back to their homeland.

[GrebluBro]

So your saying every last president of Somalia is not reflective of how the people look? Even the guy who runs the central bank? Lmao.

Now I see you are just trolling me.

What about the 2 governors of the two regions in the North Somaliland, and Puntland

4576745768

I couldn't see pics of presidents, these two governors don't look Afram.
But many girls you posted b4 looked Black

[Cush]

I couldn't see pics of presidents, these two governors don't look Afram.
But many girls you posted b4 looked Black


If you think those Somali girls who look like biracial blacks, look like the African Americans I see who are obese and reak of testastrone than you have insulted me, and you should be banned from this site.

On a serious note, tell me about this site. I saw it on alot of searches when I googled Somali. Is it a whites only site? Is it like Stormfront? Any Germans here?:rolleyes:

[Sikeliot]

Horn Africans are "black" definitely by New World standards, but their facial features are often closer to people from the Arabian Peninsula, and some will therefore be taken for something other than "just black".

[GrebluBro]

On a serious note, tell me about this site. I saw it on alot of searches when I googled Somali. Is it a whites only site? Is it like Stormfront? Any Germans here?:rolleyes:

this forum isn't White only site...but about 80% stuff is Euro related..
It's normal forum unlike retarded Stormfront site..
part or full ethnic-Germans may form 15% of White members

[Cush]

this forum isn't White only site...but about 80% stuff is Euro related..
It's normal forum unlike retarded Stormfront site..
part or full ethnic-Germans may form 15% of White members


I have problems with my laptop, do you think you can help me?

[GrebluBro]

I have problems with my laptop, do you think you can help me?

PM me..Google is your friend

[Cush]

PM me..Google is your friend

I just want you to know, I am not asking you cause your Indian.

[GrebluBro]

I just want you to know, I am not asking you cause your Indian.

:lol:

[Cush]

:lol:

Are there any other Somalis on this site? Maybe other Horners?

[GrebluBro]

Are there any other Somalis on this site? Maybe other Horners?

One Somali (left, but may come back), One Ethiopia (you can expect him anytime)

[Cush]

One Somali (left, but may come back), One Ethiopia (you can expect him anytime)


Nice too meet you. You seem like an alright guy.

How can you be far right in your poitics if you are Agnostic?

Are you Agnostic, because you are afraid to say Athiest?

[GrebluBro]

Nice too meet you. You seem like an alright guy.

How can you be far right in your poitics if you are Agnostic?

Are you Agnostic, because you are afraid to say Athiest?

Don't judge anyone cuz of posts..anyways thanks!... I'll bump into you once in a while through threads
I'm agnostic, not atheist...I respect religious people more than atheists.

I'm far right cuz most of my beliefs are extremely opposite to liberals.

[Cush]

I'm agnostic, not atheist...I respect religious people more than atheists.

I'm far right cuz most of my beliefs are extremely opposite to liberals.

Very intersting.

It's very liberal of you to admit that you don't know that god exists, yet shun those who base their lack of faith on science which shows no proof of a higher diety.

Since you are conservative does this mean you don't have a college education? Higher college education equals less believe in religion and more liberal views. Yet you are conservative but Agnostic.

Very interesting.

[StonyArabia]

Horn Africans are "black" definitely by New World standards, but their facial features are often closer to people from the Arabian Peninsula, and some will therefore be taken for something other than "just black".

They are intertwined with Arabians culturally and even genetically. Horn Africans have more relationship with Arabians I believe then they do with other Africans.

[Cush]

They are intertwined with Arabians culturally and even genetically. Horn Africans have more relationship with Arabians I believe then they do with other Africans.

What is your background. Culturally, racially, ethnically?

By the way. All Afroasiatic languages came from the Horn, thus the reason why Some ethiopians speak Semetic and others along with Somalis speak Cushitic. There was even a time when Ethiopian Kingdoms controlled parts of Yemen and took over Kush which controlled Egypt for a time.


Not familiar with exactly how the people of the Horn are related to North Africans and Middle Easterners. But I do know that Cushitic langauges are spoken as far away as Southern Egypt by the Beja people.

[StonyArabia]

What is your background. Culturally, racially, ethnically?

By the way. All Afroasiatic languages came from the Horn, thus the reason why Some ethiopians speak Semetic and others along with Somalis speak Cushitic. There was even a time when Ethiopian Kingdoms controlled parts of Yemen and took over Kush which controlled Egypt for a time.

I am half Circassian half Bedouin(Shammari). My father is Circassian and my mother is a Shammari Bedouin. The Shammar Bedouin are of Yemenite origins. That said I do agree with you that the Afro-Asiatic languages probably appeared in the Horn. Actually Axum controlled Yemen, but they extend their empire further into the Kindah central Arabia since they wanted to spread Christianity but they were defeated and made to retreat. Then as you know the Ethiopian governor created cathedral in Yemen in trying to attract the pagan Arabians to Christianity, but none of the Arabians cared which angered him. Despite these historical enmity things got better and even alliances were formed, and today many of us regard Horners as our brothers.

[Cush]

I am half Circassian half Bedouin(Shammari). My father is Circassian and my mother is a Shammari Bedouin. The Shammar Bedouin are of Yemenite origins. That said I do agree with you that the Afro-Asiatic languages probably appeared in the Horn. Actually Axum controlled Yemen, but they extend their empire further into the Kindah central Arabia since they wanted to spread Christianity but they were defeated and made to retreat. Then as you know the Ethiopian governor created cathedral in Yemen in trying to attract the pagan Arabians to Christianity, but none of the Arabians cared which angered him. Despite these historical enmity things got better and even alliances were formed, and today many of us regard Horners as our brothers.


Before Islam (1,500 years ago) Somalis and other Cushitic people were in the same empire (Axum) and viewed themselves as the same. It was After the Arabs sought refuge because of the persecution they were getting by spreading Islam, that they asked the Axum kindom for Asylum. The Arabs were allowed to practice their religion and settle in what is now Zeila (northern Somalia).

Ethiopians still have some regret because of this. Because after several hundred years, all of Western Axum became Muslims, and the Somalis had a ethnic awareness and saw Axum as the enemy.

Sadly the Somalis invaded. The Ethiopians were getting destroyed and asked for help from the Portugese. Something unheard of in the 1500's, due to Europeans enslaving Blacks everywhere they went.

In the End the Somalis got help from the Arabs, and Turks (OTTOMAN Emprie) and became the First Africans to use Cannons, and destroyed Half of Abyssina and won the war.

This is the reason why half of Ethiopia is inhabited by Somalis, and half the population is Muslim. Ironic since Ethiopia is the second oldest Christian country after Armenia.

[StonyArabia]

Before Islam (1,500 years ago) Somalis and other Cushitic people were in the same empire (Axum) and viewed themselves as the same. It was After the Arabs sought refuge because of the persecution they were getting by spreading Islam, that they asked the Axum kindom for Asylum. The Arabs were allowed to practice their religion and settle in what is now Zeila a(Northern Somalia).

Ethiopians still have some regret because of this. Because after several hundred years, all of Western Axum became Muslims, and the Somalis had a ethnic awareness and saw Axum as the enemy.

Sadly the Somalis invaded. The Ethiopians were getting destroyed and asked for help from the Portugese. Something unheard of in the 1500's, due to Europeans enslaving Blacks everywhere they went.

In the End the Somalis got help from the Arabs, and Turks (OTTOMAN Emprie) and became the First Africans to use Cannons, and destroyed Half of Abyssina and won the war.

This is the reason why half of Ethiopia is inhabited by Somalis, and half the population is Muslim. Ironic since Ethiopia is the second oldest Christian country after Armenia.

This is in fact true, when Islam appeared in Arabia, it was prosecuted by the pagan Arabians. So the newly converts went to Ethiopia because they were told by the Prophet(PUBH) that the king of Ethiopia is good and a righteous king. This event is quite important because it enabled Islam to grow and eventually Islam was adopted by most of the Arabian tribes afterwards, when they migrated back.

It's quite ironic because Ethiopia or Axum always wanted to bring Christianity to the pagan Arabian tribes or those who adopted Judaism. The problem was the pagan Arabians did not want to convert to Christianity, but what is ironic that Christian Ethiopia/Axum played very important role in the spread of Islam.

However it was king Kaleb who eyed Arabia for Christian conversions, though later kings ignored this because the Arabians never converted to Christianity, but when Islam appeared the king Negus helped the Muslims take refuge. Thus the history took a more positive role.

Though I do agree with you with, Somalia entered the Arab league without a fuss since most Arabs and especially Arabians see them as kin who had close relationship, the same would be true of Ethiopia if it was mostly Muslim.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-vtOPfRao

Just an example.

[Cush]

This is in fact true, when Islam appeared in Arabia, it was prosecuted by the pagan Arabians. So the newly converts went to Ethiopia because they were told by the Prophet(PUBH) that the king of Ethiopia is good and a righteous king. This event is quite important because it enabled Islam to grow and eventually Islam was adopted by most of the Arabian tribes afterwards, when they migrated back.

It's quite ironic because Ethiopia or Axum always wanted to bring Christianity to the pagan Arabian tribes or those who adopted Judaism. The problem was the pagan Arabians did not want to convert to Christianity, but what is ironic that Christian Ethiopia/Axum played very important role in the spread of Islam.

However it was king Kaleb who eyed Arabia for Christian conversions, though later kings ignored this because the Arabians never converted to Christianity, but when Islam appeared the king Negus helped the Muslims take refuge. Thus the history took a more positive role.

Though I do agree with you with, Somalia entered the Arab league without a fuss since most Arabs and especially Arabians see them as kin who had close relationship, the same would be true of Ethiopia if it was mostly Muslim.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-vtOPfRao

Just an example.


Funny how the politics of what happened 1,500 years ago still continues. Egypt sponspored Somalia and Djibouti (ethnically Somali) to enter the Arab league. As Somalis were surrounded by Christians. Egypt wanted to have a strong Somalia incase Ethiopia and Egypt went to war over the Nile.

I read an article that Egypt failed was outsmarted by Israel because it has strong relations with all the countries the Nile comes from, and this could mean Israel could use that as leverage. One of the first things Morsi did when he got elected in Egypt was try to Help Somalia with Weapons and military training so that she could get back on her feet, as their are thousands of Ethiopian troops inside Somalia.

[ArabianCharm]

Most Somalis are ugly anyways i could care less of their origin

[Hadouken]

Horner Girls are hooot

[wvwvw]

only one girl doesn't pass as Afram :picard2:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45757&d=1395725615


Somalis are black

Original Somalis were white though

[GrebluBro]

Original Somalis were white though

what do you mean original?
White skin can't exist naturally in Somali climate :picard2:

[Sikeliot]

They are intertwined with Arabians culturally and even genetically. Horn Africans have more relationship with Arabians I believe then they do with other Africans.

That is true. I just meant by American standards they'd be black. Obviously they're more related both genetically and phenotypically to Arabians than to say, Cameroonians or Congolese.

[Argang]

That is true. I just meant by American standards they'd be black. Obviously they're more related both genetically and phenotypically to Arabians than to say, Cameroonians or Congolese.

Most Tigrays cluster about halfway. Closer to Arabians than Mbuti though.

[MINARDOWICZ]

It's not about the label, so much as being in the same group as West Africans, who despise us. I am trying to protect Cushitic people so they are not eliminated from this planet by thristy Bantus who run after our women. And attempt to use our culture and history for their own political purposes.

Interesting. Well, you people are quite different from them. That is for sure. The narrower features and very MENA noses should be a major sign for spotting horners, you know?

[MINARDOWICZ]

Somali people look like a combo of Saudi and Sudanese... to me at least.

Somali
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/A_Somali_man.jpeg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rf14z25GqD8/UxN5kW85fsI/AAAAAAAABA0/kiQIalgqx1M/s1600/Barkhad-Abdi-Captain-Phillips.jpg

Saudi
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/cf/81/dc/cf81dcc3afce15a82d93c44669d0c0bf.jpg
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4163/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4163-10843.jpg

Sudanese
http://www.southing.com/photography/images/sudan-manS.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/13/article-2292673-01AD052800000578-45_634x524.jpg

[zhaoyun]

This whole thread is rather pointless.

I think most educated people know that Horners and West Africans are two different people with very different phenotypes.

However, "Black" is an artifical racial category that is relevant to the Western experience. Both groups still fit within that general category in the Western sense.

Just like how "White" is an artificial racial category. I mean, Portuguese, Sicilians, Bulgarians and Norwegians are all very different from one another, but they all still fit within the "White" category in the Western world.

Just like how Indonesians, Koreans, Vietnamese are all different but still fit within the "Asian" category in the US.

It really is this simple. I don't think anyone here is arguing that Horners and West Africans are equivalent.

[Cush]

These two Somali girls are Albino. Because of their narrow features they look caucasion. I believe this is how people went evolved to have different skin colors. This also explains why Horners are an intermediarry people.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/558774_10152312741945078_2101225451_n.jpg

[ArabianCharm]

Arabs are Semitic Caucasian and they are light olive skinned and they have nothing in common with Horn Africans and butt ugly dark skinned Somalis

Here are photos of average Somali women they are 100% negroid black

http://i59.tinypic.com/11w7a7c.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/34e3j82.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/auyqzs.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/2yo78ro.jpg




Arab women from the gulf

Saudi girl

http://i59.tinypic.com/104os8y.jpg

Kuwaiti women below

http://i61.tinypic.com/xpcxhf.jpg


http://i62.tinypic.com/2lq07d.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/v7ca2x.jpg

[ArabianCharm]

The best looking Somalis got racially mixed with the Arabs from the Arabian peninsula , that's the truth

the ugliest Gulf Arab is far better looking than the best looking Somali person ;)

[ArabianCharm]

I made this statements there is a somali member on here who made fun of gulf arabs , this is paypack time for your ugly uncivilized jealous black Somali savages.

[The King, I am]

These two Somali girls are Albino. Because of their narrow features they look caucasion. I believe this is how people went evolved to have different skin colors. This also explains why Horners are an intermediarry people.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/558774_10152312741945078_2101225451_n.jpg

Wow they look like Northern Europeans, amazing

[The King, I am]

Of course Horners are black, they're not Negro, but still black

[wvwvw]

I like West Africans better, both in looks and spirit

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/611241_155059_10150092492200861_513890860_7546473_ 3991227_n_jpg3860cbefc08202cc520a28ac5de73fb8

[Cush]

I like West Africans better, both in looks and spirit

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/611241_155059_10150092492200861_513890860_7546473_ 3991227_n_jpg3860cbefc08202cc520a28ac5de73fb8


Good for you. No one said West Africans are ugly, interesting you feel like sharing that with the whole world.

[Cush]

I made this statements there is a somali member on here who made fun of gulf arabs , this is paypack time for your ugly uncivilized jealous black Somali savages.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. You should grow up and address your problems with the one who disrespected you.

[Cush]

The best looking Somalis got racially mixed with the Arabs from the Arabian peninsula , that's the truth

the ugliest Gulf Arab is far better looking than the best looking Somali person ;)



Somalis are not mixed with Arabs, as we came way before Arabs, our language is much older than Arabic. Keep in mind Arabs never controlled the Horn, it was Horners who controlled Egypt (destroyed Kush), and controlled Yemen.

the Somali look is shared by Ethiopians, who are the second oldest christian country and many other Cushitic people who are far inland inside Ethiopia who never came in touch with Arabs. Also Arabs have our DNA, not the other way around.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/E1b1b1a1b_V32_Distribution.png/800px-E1b1b1a1b_V32_Distribution.png

[Graine]

looooool

[Cush]

Of course Horners are black, they're not Negro, but still black



Isn't Negro black in spanish?

[The King, I am]

Isn't Negro black in spanish?

Yeah, so?

[Cush]

Yeah, so?


Well you said we are not Negro, but we are Black. lol

[The King, I am]

Well you said we are not Negro, but we are Black. lol

Ok if you prefer
Your negroes but not negroids

[Cush]

Ok if you prefer
Your negroes but not negroids

Lol, ok.

[kuwaitiPride]

I don't know they look kuwaiti to me :/

[kuwaitiPride]

I made this statements there is a somali member on here who made fun of gulf arabs , this is paypack time for your ugly uncivilized jealous black Somali savages.

I think somalis look exactly like us Kuwaitis because we have a lot of negroid DNA,

http://hamsaweb.org/imgs/kuwait.jpg

[arcticwolf]

Ain't that special. :laugh:

[Siginulfo]

Somali people are generally a mix of mostly Eurasian males (85-90%) and mostly sub-Saharan females (70%) with a moderate minority of Eurasian females (30%). These proportions of ancestry are mirrored in their phenotypes IMO. Ethiopian males are a bit less Eurasian than Somalis (65-70%), but their females have a greater proportion of Eurasian lineages (ca 50%). And this is seen in their phenotypes also.

[Croehveist]

I think this people look like this man from ethnic group Amhara. White part is visible.
http://i57.tinypic.com/28cdki0.jpg

[Gaston]

Black is a social construct in English-speaking countries with a past of slave trade (Atlantic slave trade), which de facto doesn't apply to any African.

However based on skin tone and other obviously tropical traits, Horners are kinda black, blackish...? There is of course wide range of phenotypes in Subsaharan Africa and despite major Eurasian influx there in some regions, there is like a continuum (almost uninterrupted) between the most divergent Africans and the Caucasoid-shifted Horners.

[KidMulat]

There are obvious genetic and cultural links from the horn to semi-arid West Africa; it is Saharan Pump and the Great Sahel that link the two regions.

[Prince Of Macrobia]

Somalia is a part of Africa but when I look my family, specially Mum, sisters, bros, father and Grandfather's face they don't look typical African, they look totally different, the color of skin, the figure, etc. am not saying we are not African but we are our own race, we Not Egyptian either Arabs or Chinese. we just Somali. Example check my young Sister's look, and tell how does she look. http://i58.tinypic.com/qq5u1z.jpg

[Kriptc06]

Somalia is a part of Africa but when I look my family, specially Mum, sisters, bros, father and Grandfather's face they don't look typical African, they look totally different, the color of skin, the figure, etc. am not saying we are not African but we are our own race, we Not Egyptian either Arabs or Chinese. we just Somali. Example check my young Sister's look, and tell how does she look. http://i58.tinypic.com/qq5u1z.jpg

looks MENA

[Arcadefire]

lol posting on this forum to gain validation from who exactly? These neckbeards who circle jerk on 19th century "anthropology" could care less. Objectively speaking though, if you share dNa with middle eastern, and SSA (which in itself is a broad term) , perhaps you can stake a claim as being part of both of the group.

There are numerous things which can influence the slightest change in human phenotype. Its just that we learn to notice how we differ from everybody else before identifying the phenotypical uniqueness of other groups.