How African is Shailene Woodley judging by her maternal side?

[Sikeliot]

Her mother is part Hispanic and Louisiana Creole.. but I see no African even though she's claimed her grandparents on her mom's side are both part black.

She's probably as African as me.. like 2%.

http://www.geekcrusade.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Shailene-Woodley.jpg

Her maternal grandmother, supposedly a Louisiana Creole with some Hispanic roots... where's the African?

http://www.dianevictor.com/images/diane_headshot.jpg


Her mother is the woman in the black dress... her mother is the woman above,and the father is supposedly African American and was listed on the census as mulatto one year, white another, and black another.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2014/03/shailene_woodley_lori_woodley_p_2014.jpg
http://media.vcstar.com/media/img/photos/2014/03/18/0319_vclo_DivergentScreening3_t607.JPG


WHERE THE HELL is the African? Do you really expect me to believe that woman above is African American and Creole in significant amount?!?!?!

[Apri2014]

I don't see it either. BTW, she's pretty

[GrebluBro]

troll thread

[CordedWhelp]

lol...no SSA whatsoever...

[Sikeliot]

Heres one of her "black" grandparents.. the man in the photo. He could pass as Portuguese, but maybe slightly mixed with Cape Verdean. Looks a little like some of my relatives.

The little girl in this photo is the grandmother in my first post:

http://bayoubohemia.net/genealogy/photos/2142.01.jpg

[Stormer99]

She's probably using the one drop rule standards because no one in these pictures looks black to me.

[Sikeliot]

She's probably using the one drop rule standards because no one in these pictures looks black to me.

Even some of my own family looks blacker than them...

if any of her grandparents were "black" on the census it means they had some degree of African in them and were victims of the one drop rule. Doesn't imply that they looked black or that they were readily identifiable as such.

[Maleficent]

troll thread

It's not a troll thread. That's what Shailene Woodley actually claimed about her ancestry.

To answer the question: 6 to 12%, tops.

[Smeagol]

Most likely she just had a black ancestor like 200 years ago..

[Sikeliot]

It's not a troll thread. That's what Shailene Woodley actually claimed about her ancestry.

To answer the question: 6 to 12%, tops.

She must be using the one drop rule.

I can't imagine it being as high as 12% because that implies her mother is a quadroon, which I highly doubt. I'd say Shailene might have 4% like my mother, and her mother close to 8%, and then from there it increases.

[Sikeliot]

Most likely she just had a black ancestor like 200 years ago..

Do you see African in ANY of the photos above?

[Lemonhead]

Her African admixture looks distant.

[Sikeliot]

Her African admixture looks distant.

Do you see it in any of the photos of any of the relatives?

[Smeagol]

Do you see African in ANY of the photos above?

Nope. None in her, not even any in her grandparents.

[Sikeliot]

Nope. None in her, not even any in her grandparents.

Not even the man in the black and white photo?
I forget if you saw any African in any of my relatives, but I assume the amounts are comparable.

[Smeagol]

Not even the man in the black and white photo?

Just based on that one photo, no.

[Sikeliot]

Just based on that one photo, no.

He's supposedly of Spanish, French, and African ancestry and had a Catalan surname, Fauria.

There is another Fauria family of Creole descent, from which we get this football player.. they might be related. The surname is not common in the US.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/16330.png

[GrebluBro]

She must be using the one drop rule.

I can't imagine it being as high as 12% because that implies her mother is a quadroon, which I highly doubt. I'd say Shailene might have 4% like my mother, and her mother close to 8%, and then from there it increases.

Most likely she just had a black ancestor like 200 years ago..

It's not a troll thread. That's what Shailene Woodley actually claimed about her ancestry.

To answer the question: 6 to 12%, tops.

her so-called Mulatto/Afram/White grandpa must've used one-drop to himself.. He was 1/8th and she's 1/32

[GrebluBro]

He's supposedly of Spanish, French, and African ancestry and had a Catalan surname, Fauria.

There is another Fauria family of Creole descent, from which we get this football player.. they might be related. The surname is not common in the US.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/16330.png

He looks White

[Sikeliot]

I have heard that these two are related to her.. Christian and Joseph Fauria (they are uncle and nephew).

They look slightly mixed with black, but none of her relatives do.

http://meganjanephotography.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/201002_Surlys_041WebSharpwm.jpg
http://www.thefumble.com/sites/captainwag.com/files/wp-content/gallery/joe-fauria/joe8web.jpg

[aherne]

I have heard that these two are related to her.. Christian and Joseph Fauria (they are uncle and nephew).

They look slightly mixed with black, but none of her relatives do.

http://meganjanephotography.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/201002_Surlys_041WebSharpwm.jpg
http://www.thefumble.com/sites/captainwag.com/files/wp-content/gallery/joe-fauria/joe8web.jpg
First is not slightly mixed with black. I'd say > 25%. Second is half that number, but still looks strange in Europe.

[Sikeliot]

First is not slightly mixed with black. I'd say > 25%. Second is half that number, but still looks strange in Europe.

So what do you think of the people in the first posts in this thread? Mixed or not?

[The King, I am]

I see no African influence in her whatsoever, maybe North/East African but definitely not Negro

[Roy]

She is white without sign of admixture, her ancestors also.

[Sikeliot]

She is white without sign of admixture, her ancestors also.

So do you agree then that her ancestors on the census being black/mulatto was probably one drop rule?

[GrebluBro]

So do you agree then that her ancestors on the census being black/mulatto was probably one drop rule?

Out of question..

Some White retards mark Amerindian in Census just cuz 1/32 Amerindian

[Roy]

So do you agree then that her ancestors on the census being black/mulatto was probably one drop rule?

Definitely. Her grandfather might have some African influence but it's impossible to tell from this picture.

[MINARDOWICZ]

She must be 1-5%.

[StonyArabia]

The only way to tell if she does a DNA test. I would say around 1-12% and the 12% is the highest.

[Maleficent]

She must be using the one drop rule.

I can't imagine it being as high as 12% because that implies her mother is a quadroon, which I highly doubt. I'd say Shailene might have 4% like my mother, and her mother close to 8%, and then from there it increases.

So this is definitely a case of people who are predominately white and look white a victim of the racist one-drop rule. Why else would her grandparents have been labeled "quadroon" on the census?

[Maleficent]

Out of question..

Some White retards mark Amerindian in Census just cuz 1/32 Amerindian:picard1: :lol:

[Sikeliot]

So this is definitely a case of people who are predominately white and look white a victim of the racist one-drop rule. Why else would her grandparents have been labeled "quadroon" on the census?

They were called "black" and "mulatto".

[Maleficent]

They were called "black" and "mulatto".

But why?! (besides the obvious)

[Also]

Can she benefit from AA?

[Sikeliot]

Can she benefit from AA?

She could try but it'd be as dishonest as if I did it.

[Sikeliot]

Her mother supposedly has African on both sides of her family, so surely it'd show up but it doesn't.

http://trisandfour.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/shailene-woodley-theo-james-all-it-takes-divergent-screening-13.jpg

[guyinsf]

She looks about......let me see here, this is kind of hard.....0% black and 100% white!

[Sikeliot]

She looks about......let me see here, this is kind of hard.....0% black and 100% white!

And her mom? Grandmother? etc.

[Sikeliot]

Here are more of her ancestors.. her maternal great grandparents.. (Fauria and Martinez side).. I see mostly Iberian all around. I eventually traced on this site, that she has ancestry from Ibiza, which must be the Catalan.

No black!


http://bayoubohemia.net/genealogy/photos/5701.01.jpg


More..

http://bayoubohemia.net/genealogy/photos/1260.01.jpg

[GrebluBro]

Here are more of her ancestors.. her maternal great grandparents.. (Fauria and Martinez side).. I see mostly Iberian all around. I eventually traced on this site, that she has ancestry from Ibiza, which must be the Catalan.

No black!


http://bayoubohemia.net/genealogy/photos/5701.01.jpg


More..

http://bayoubohemia.net/genealogy/photos/1260.01.jpg

Great job bro!
Probably her grandpa was self-hating white libtard

[Sikeliot]

Great job bro!
Probably her grandpa was self-hating white libtard

Her grandmother is mostly Spanish. They are said to be Creole but I see not one photo where anyone looks black. Even I have relatives blacker than this!

I'd like to see her supposedly African American grandfather. Probably a quadroon at best. If even.

[Steve-O]

She looks fully white, IMO

[Sikeliot]

She looks fully white, IMO

What about her mom, grandmother, and her side? IMO they all look Iberian to me.

[Smaug]

Pretty.

[Steve-O]

What about her mom, grandmother, and her side? IMO they all look Iberian to me.

They just look generically white to me. I'm pretty sure they'd have no problem passing for French, Italian ect.

[Sikeliot]

They just look generically white to me. I'm pretty sure they'd have no problem passing for French, Italian ect.

So do you think that she lied about being part "black"? She has relatives who have been listed in various years as black, mulatto, and white (the same person multiple years) which IMO suggests they were able to pass as white.

[Steve-O]

So do you think that she lied about being part "black"? She has relatives who have been listed in various years as black, mulatto, and white (the same person multiple years) which IMO suggests they were able to pass as white.

Nah I don't think she lied. She may have Senegambian ancestry.

[Sikeliot]

Nah I don't think she lied. She may have Senegambian ancestry.

Why would you think she had ancestry from there? Or are you joking because I always say it dilutes quicker?

I know I have ancestry from that region, and it persisted for a very long time in our appearances. My grandmother has cousins that look mixed.

[Steve-O]

Why would you think she had ancestry from there? Or are you joking because I always say it dilutes quicker?


I never heard you say that but it does and it makes sense..

[Sikeliot]

I never heard you say that but it does and it makes sense..

I've seen relatives on her mom's side all the way back to Spain and not one person looks black. :lol: At least in my own family by 1900 they do start looking black..

[mikeyup]

she could pass as iberian... i mean she could pass along western europe

she claims SSA? you americans... :p

[Sikeliot]

she could pass as iberian... i mean she could pass along western europe

she claims SSA? you americans... :p

She says her mom is half African American and half Creole. Yeah, right.

[mikeyup]

She says her mom is half African American and half Creole. Yeah, right.

strange... i wonder why she claims it

[Sikeliot]

strange... i wonder why she claims it

Distant African ancestry on each side, kind of like on my mom's side.

[Sikeliot]

Here is her mother.. she doesn't even look Iberian, but British, even though much of her is Spanish. I think maybe the Swiss is responsible for her look.

http://i58.tinypic.com/taq3v9.jpg

[Leto]

Ethnicity:
*English (father)
*African-American, Creole (African, French, Spanish, German), English, Swiss (mother)
I thought she was 20-25% African.

[Sikeliot]

I thought she was 20-25% African.

Does her mother look mulatta??

Her grandparents were interchangeably listed on the census as "white", "black" and "mulatto" as time passed. Therefore, they were white-passing, since no one was ever called white back then who couldn't pass. I'd bet you none of her grandparents had more than 1/8 of African ancestry. Under Jim Crow segregation, 1/16 African was enough to make you legally black.

Her mother is the one with the African ancestry, and it's very distant if I have to guess, possibly more than my own.

[Porpolita]

She must be using the one drop rule.

I can't imagine it being as high as 12% because that implies her mother is a quadroon, which I highly doubt. I'd say Shailene might have 4% like my mother, and her mother close to 8%, and then from there it increases.


I thought she was 20-25% African.

She definitely does not look 20-25% African.

[Sikeliot]

She definitely does not look 20-25% African.

How much would you guess, judging by her mother and grandmother?

I found photos of all of her maternal side on her grandmother's side, and no one looked black and they traced right to Spain and Switzerland.

[Leto]

Well, TECHNICALLY speaking, quadroons can look fully Caucasian. BUT I'm very surprised by the look of her mother. I've just seen the pictures, never googled them before. Her mom looks white. She must be definitely less black than I assumed. 5-10 percent at best.

[Sikeliot]

Well, TECHNICALLY speaking, quadroons can look fully Caucasian. BUT I'm very surprised by the look of her mother. I've just seen the pictures, never googled them before. Her mom looks white. She must be definitely less black than I assumed. 5-10 percent at best.

I think her "black" ancestors were white-passing, and were victims of the One Drop Rule. Thus, I'd guess her African ancestry to be close to 5% at most, and possibly 1-2% at least.

And by that, I mean the mother. Think about it, would an African American be listed as "white" at any point on the census if they couldn't pass? No. I need to check to see what my Cape Verdean side was listed as when they came over.

[Porpolita]

How much would you guess, judging by her mother and grandmother?

I found photos of all of her maternal side on her grandmother's side, and no one looked black and they traced right to Spain and Switzerland.

1/8 at most.
But even then, I suspect it may be even lower, probably between 2-6%.

[Sikeliot]

1/8 at most.
But even then, I suspect it may be even lower, probably between 2-6%.


I can't imagine the mother being a quadroon.

I'd guess the mother at 12% at most, 1% at least.

[Sikeliot]

I'll use myself as a baseline. Around 1900 a lot of my relatives look mixed, but my mother is only 3% African and me closer to 1-1.5%.

[Leto]

Btw, she is an example of what I talked about yesterday in the thread about Spanish/Hispanic Americans. The girl is basically white, no doubt. But she and maybe people associated with her promote the idea of her "blackness". It can be found on a number of sites, including Wikipedia. Thus they have led us to believe she is "biracial" which is untrue.

[Leto]

I think her "black" ancestors were white-passing, and were victims of the One Drop Rule. Thus, I'd guess her African ancestry to be close to 5% at most, and possibly 1-2% at least.
If so, they were victims of the radical-ass racialism some TA members are very fond of. It simply contradicts common sense.

[Sikeliot]

Btw, she is an example of what I talked about yesterday in the thread about Spanish/Hispanic Americans. The girl is basically white, no doubt. But she and maybe people associated with her promote the idea of her "blackness". It can be found on a number of sites, including Wikipedia. Thus they have led us to believe she is "biracial" which is untrue.

Well she posts a lot of photos with her mom, so maybe she should stop doing that because it makes her look like a liar :lol:

Anyway, I've seen people call her "a mix of white, Hispanic and black". She is, rather a white American of partial Spanish ancestry (white) with minor African.

[Nurzat]

she's pretty. send her to me for verification. maybe she has a fat negro clit and brown cunt lips. is she a booty?

[Sikeliot]

She cut her hair and looks like a lesbian now.

[Leto]

Under Jim Crow segregation, 1/16 African was enough to make you legally black.
It's an indiscernible admixture (6.25%).:picard1:

[Porpolita]

I can't imagine the mother being a quadroon.

I'd guess the mother at 12% at most, 1% at least.

I can't even imagine her mother as an octoroon. Most quadroons are visibly mixed, and most octoroons are white looking, but off-white if you get what I mean. She is likely 95%+ European, and her mother 90%+.

However, the name "Shailene" does give her an extra 10 Blackness points

[Leto]

A graphic example. Mother (mulatta), daughter (quadroon), granddaughter (octoroon).
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/6omypi91jrzq.jpg (http://firepic.org/)
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/0cnyjxe4ilyg.jpg (http://firepic.org/)

[Leto]

However, the name "Shailene" does give her an extra 10 Blackness points
Yeah, the name sounds African-American.

[Ars Moriendi]

She can identify however she pleases. It's her problem.
What's the big deal about it?

[Leto]

She can identify however she pleases. It's her problem.
What's the big deal about it?
White-looking people should identify as white.

[Ars Moriendi]

White-looking people should identify as white.

Depends on who you ask. If you ask the resident nazis what they think about it, they might disagree.

I am personally 1.2% SSA, and this is my face (https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/480x480q50/4/photodemoi6k.png).
I sincerely care too little about racialist labels, but I can sometimes giggle about the one-drop rule, because me liking jazz music, watermelon as an entry fruit, or liking big butts in girls can always be attributed to my black % :laugh:

[Sikeliot]

A graphic example. Mother (mulatta), daughter (quadroon), granddaughter (octoroon).
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/6omypi91jrzq.jpg (http://firepic.org/)
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/0cnyjxe4ilyg.jpg (http://firepic.org/)

Kitt Shapiro looks less white than Shailene Woodley's mom and her African ancestry is easily traceable. No one could ever list Eartha Kitt as white on a census. :lol:

In Jim Crow days even the granddaughter would get called black.

[Leto]

I am personally 1.2% SSA, and this is my face.
I sincerely care too little about racialist labels, but I can sometimes giggle about the one-drop rule, because me liking jazz music, watermelon as an entry fruit, or liking big butts in girls can always be attributed to my black % :laugh:
Where did you get 1.2% SSA from? Someone told me you were from the Balkans. Anyway, it's literally nothing.

[Leto]

Kitt Shapiro looks less white than Shailene Woodley's mom and her African ancestry is easily traceable. No one could ever list Eartha Kitt as white on a census. :lol:

In Jim Crow days even the granddaughter would get called black.
Yeah, but especially the granddaughter easily passes as white, despite being 12% SSA or so.

[Ars Moriendi]

Where did you get 1.2% SSA from? Someone told me you were from the Balkans. Anyway, it's literally nothing.

I agree, but the thing is, it seems that in the US, people complement the somehow empty "American" term, by attaching whatever identity they feel like putting there.
I've seen reports about the "German-American community", where you find small children that are 1/4 German or less, yet still identify as part of it. Same with Irish-Americans, or Mexican-Americans, or whatever thing they wish to portray.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone goes for African American with my own % or even less.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Maybe 1% of SSA.

[Insinuate]

No SSA admixture.

[Queen B]

Probably 200 years ago or something. She looks like 0% black admix

She is very pretty !

[Petalpusher]

A graphic example. Mother (mulatta), daughter (quadroon), granddaughter (octoroon).
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/6omypi91jrzq.jpg (http://firepic.org/)
http://6.firepic.org/6/images/2014-11/06/0cnyjxe4ilyg.jpg (http://firepic.org/)

Good pick. Woodley has similar features in less pronounced form or maybe she is just prettier. There is something in her face not as chiseled than typical European-American, but no one would notice except anthro freaks like us. She is probably in the 5% range of SSA.

[Heather Duval]

"Shailene’s maternal grandfather was Stephen David Victor (the son of Harold J. Victor and Bessie M. Harrold). According to most censuses, both Harold and Bessie were Black and/or biracial (censuses list Harold and Bessie as black, and one census lists them as “Mulatto”). Harold was born in Louisiana, to Leila. Bessie was born in California, to Texas-born parents, William John Harrold and Bessie Hutchins."

http://ethnicelebs.com/shailene-woodley

[Heather Duval]

He's supposedly of Spanish, French, and African ancestry and had a Catalan surname, Fauria.

There is another Fauria family of Creole descent, from which we get this football player.. they might be related. The surname is not common in the US.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/16330.png

Beyonce's mother is creole and looks black/mulatta
http://d236bkdxj385sg.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Tina-Knowles.jpg

[Sikeliot]

"Shailene’s maternal grandfather was Stephen David Victor (the son of Harold J. Victor and Bessie M. Harrold). According to most censuses, both Harold and Bessie were Black and/or biracial (censuses list Harold and Bessie as black, and one census lists them as “Mulatto”). Harold was born in Louisiana, to Leila. Bessie was born in California, to Texas-born parents, William John Harrold and Bessie Hutchins."

http://ethnicelebs.com/shailene-woodley

Back then all you had to be was 1/64 African to be considered "black". I would have been considered such. I don't think we can use the census from that era as proof (or not) of someone's blackness.

[Grab the Gauge]

At least 30%. You're all in denial.

[Grab the Gauge]

Maybe 1% of SSA.

So glad this faggot's banned.

[Herr Abubu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIsc8ooXug

[Kamal900]

Nothing Black about her.