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Loki
03-27-2014, 02:26 PM
U.S. intel assessment: greater likelihood Russia will enter eastern Ukraine (http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/26/u-s-intel-assessement-greater-likelihood-russia-will-enter-eastern-ukraine/?hpt=hp_t2)

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A new classified intelligence assessment concludes it is more likely than previously thought that Russian forces will enter eastern Ukraine, CNN has learned.

Two administration officials described the assessment but declined to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the information.

The officials emphasized that nothing is certain, but there have been several worrying signs in the past three to four days.

“This has shifted our thinking that the likelihood of a further Russian incursion is more probable than it was previously thought to be,” one official said.

The buildup is seen to be reminiscent of Moscow’s military moves before it went into Chechnya and Georgia in both numbers of units and their capabilities.

U.S. military and intelligence officials have briefed Congress on the assessment.

As a result, Republican members of the House Armed Services Committee late Wednesday sent a classified letter to the White House expressing concern about unfolding developments.

An unclassified version obtained by CNN said committee members feel “urgency and alarm, based on new information in the committee’s possession.”

The committee said there was “deep apprehension that Moscow may invade eastern and southern Ukraine, pressing west to Transdniestria and also seek land grabs in the Baltics.”

Transdniestria is a separatist region of Moldova.

Committee members noted that Gen. Philip Breedlove, head of the U.S. European Command and NATO military chief, noted the Russians had sufficient forces to make moves into those areas.

American officials believe the more than 30,000 Russian forces on the border with Ukraine, combined with additional Russian forces placed on alert and mobilized to move, give Russian President Vladimir Putin the ability to rapidly move into Ukraine without the United States being able to predict it when it happens.

The assessment makes several new points including:

Troops on Russia’s border with eastern Ukraine – which exceed 30,000 - are “significantly more” than what is needed for the “exercises” Russia says it has been conducting, and there is no sign the forces are making any move to return to their home bases.

The troops on the border with Ukraine include large numbers of
“motorized” units that can quickly move. Additional special forces, airborne troops, air transport and other units that would be needed appear to be at a higher state of mobilization in other locations in Russia.

There is additional intelligence that even more Russian forces are “reinforcing” the border region, according to both officials. All of the troops are positioned for potential military action.

Russian troops already on the border region include air defense artillery and wheeled vehicles.

The United States believes that Russia might decide to go into eastern Ukraine to establish a land bridge into Crimea.

The belief is that Russian forces would move toward three Ukrainian cities: Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk in order to establish land access into Crimea. Russian forces are currently positioned in and around Rostov, Kursk, and Belgorod, according to U.S. intelligence information.

PolishAmerican190
03-27-2014, 02:40 PM
Lets hope that it is just CNN creating a story to get a jump on all the other news outlets.

Äijä
03-27-2014, 02:43 PM
U.S. intel assessment: greater likelihood Russia will enter eastern Ukraine (http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/26/u-s-intel-assessement-greater-likelihood-russia-will-enter-eastern-ukraine/?hpt=hp_t2)

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A new classified intelligence assessment concludes it is more likely than previously thought that Russian forces will enter eastern Ukraine, CNN has learned.

Two administration officials described the assessment but declined to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the information.

The officials emphasized that nothing is certain, but there have been several worrying signs in the past three to four days.

“This has shifted our thinking that the likelihood of a further Russian incursion is more probable than it was previously thought to be,” one official said.

The buildup is seen to be reminiscent of Moscow’s military moves before it went into Chechnya and Georgia in both numbers of units and their capabilities.

U.S. military and intelligence officials have briefed Congress on the assessment.

As a result, Republican members of the House Armed Services Committee late Wednesday sent a classified letter to the White House expressing concern about unfolding developments.

An unclassified version obtained by CNN said committee members feel “urgency and alarm, based on new information in the committee’s possession.”

The committee said there was “deep apprehension that Moscow may invade eastern and southern Ukraine, pressing west to Transdniestria and also seek land grabs in the Baltics.”

Transdniestria is a separatist region of Moldova.

Committee members noted that Gen. Philip Breedlove, head of the U.S. European Command and NATO military chief, noted the Russians had sufficient forces to make moves into those areas.

American officials believe the more than 30,000 Russian forces on the border with Ukraine, combined with additional Russian forces placed on alert and mobilized to move, give Russian President Vladimir Putin the ability to rapidly move into Ukraine without the United States being able to predict it when it happens.

The assessment makes several new points including:

Troops on Russia’s border with eastern Ukraine – which exceed 30,000 - are “significantly more” than what is needed for the “exercises” Russia says it has been conducting, and there is no sign the forces are making any move to return to their home bases.

The troops on the border with Ukraine include large numbers of
“motorized” units that can quickly move. Additional special forces, airborne troops, air transport and other units that would be needed appear to be at a higher state of mobilization in other locations in Russia.

There is additional intelligence that even more Russian forces are “reinforcing” the border region, according to both officials. All of the troops are positioned for potential military action.

Russian troops already on the border region include air defense artillery and wheeled vehicles.

The United States believes that Russia might decide to go into eastern Ukraine to establish a land bridge into Crimea.

The belief is that Russian forces would move toward three Ukrainian cities: Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk in order to establish land access into Crimea. Russian forces are currently positioned in and around Rostov, Kursk, and Belgorod, according to U.S. intelligence information.

Going in to Estonia is to us as sacred as the Russians call Kiev.

Loki
03-27-2014, 02:56 PM
Going in to Estonia is to us as sacred as the Russians call Kiev.

Russia wouldn't bother with Estonia or other NATO states. It just has a bone to pick with Ukraine. And it's all the West's fault. Since the so-called "Orange Revolution" Western governments, esp the US, have poured in billions of dollars into creating an anti-Russian mob movement. And this is where we are now. It's not Russia's fault, but Russia will obviously take advantage of the situation to its benefit.

Äijä
03-27-2014, 02:59 PM
Russia wouldn't bother with Estonia or other NATO states. It just has a bone to pick with Ukraine. And it's all the West's fault. Since the so-called "Orange Revolution" Western governments, esp the US, have poured in billions of dollars into creating an anti-Russian mob movement. And this is where we are now. It's not Russia's fault, but Russia will obviously take advantage of the situation to its benefit.

WeLL it would be a big step but you or I cant read the mind of Putin with 100% certainty.

Loki
03-27-2014, 03:03 PM
WeLL it would be a big step but you or I cant read the mind of Putin with 100% certainty.

Yeah, he's a man of few words. Probably why the others find him so unpredictable. He's not bothered by all the blustery headlines. But apparently he talks to Merkel frequently on the phone.

Argang
03-27-2014, 03:03 PM
WeLL it would be a big step but you or I cant read the mind of Putin with 100% certainty.

But I can, there's a simple inequation there. Non-nato countries > nato countries on the hit list.

Yaroslav
03-28-2014, 12:45 AM
I stand with Russia. This is the Fourth Reich, this is one of the three kingdoms of Apocalypse (along with India and China)! Death to America, death to Zionism!

RussiaPrussia
03-28-2014, 12:48 AM
i think they will only go to eastern ukraine if Obama or EU are braking their promise and impose economic sanctions

Loki
03-28-2014, 05:36 AM
i think they will only go to eastern ukraine if Obama or EU are braking their promise and impose economic sanctions

Or, if eastern Ukrainians (ethnic Russians) are unrepresented in the new government.

Remember that the Russian areas of Ukraine are by far the most productive and wealthy. Without them, west Ukraine is like a Third World country.