How Japan fuQed up the whole world

[RussiaPrussia]

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[Catkin]

This is why I don't like nuclear power. Too much damage can be done when it goes wrong.

[Selurong]

Quick! Off to Japan to participate in a noble crusade to save the population from radioactive pollution.

[Insuperable]

Soon Godzilla will rise from there

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Japan is not the only country who use nuclear for energy ..and they need that source for their industry ..Renewable natural energy sources can't produce enough energy for their production .

They have no army no oil ,no gas ..unlike Russia
..They only have their technology for catching up with developed countries ( who mostly use nuclear energy themselves).What do you suggest them instead ? Being a third world rice country ?

Using this accident for anti Japanese sentiment is pretty unfair esp when it comes from Russia.:rolleyes: Your Çernobil destroyed our Blacksea coast ( no tsunami, no earthquake , but Russians own mistake ) , cancer is highest in that region.

Rent some land to Japan, you have plenty and they can teach you how to build a safe power plant.

[zhaoyun]

Soon Godzilla will rise from there

The prophecies were correct after all

[curupira]

Can quake-prone Japan really coexist with nuclear power plants?

There are about 55 nuclear reactors in Japan (I've attached a map, PIC 1). Japan is located in one of the most vulnerable regions in the world (the Pacific ring of fire, PIC 2 and PIC 3), when it comes to earthquakes (but also vulcanoes and tsunamis). Honshu (and the other islands) being not so big, and Japan being so densely populated, earthquakes could cause massive damage if the nuclear reactors were hit.


Friday's massive earthquake that ravaged the Tohoku region led to the first-ever state of emergency issued for nuclear plants, including the evacuation of a neighborhood.

The situation is a fresh reminder of the serious latent danger of nuclear power stations and shatters assurances that nuclear power plants are safe because they are carefully designed.

And failures at nuclear plants in the quake raises a fundamental question: How can earthquake-prone Japan coexist with nuclear power plants?

The emergency core cooling system (ECCS), which pours water into the nuclear reactor core to cool it in case of an accident, was deemed a key to the multiple safety systems for those reactors.

When an earthquake hits, reactors automatically shut down. But that alone cannot prevent an accident because the nuclear fuel continues emitting heat. If the core is not properly cooled down, it could melt the fuel and trigger a disastrous explosion.

In the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States, cooling water poured out of the core to the extent that it almost caused a catastrophe.

The circumstances at Japanese reactors are now coming close to that situation.

From the initial development phase of nuclear power generators, the question over their safety has revolved around the reliability of the ECCS.

The ECCS failed to work in Japan, an advanced nation in the field of nuclear power generation, and at more than one reactor.

A power outage caused the failure.

Nuclear power stations generate power. But if the power supply is cut off during an accident, everything in the plants stops. That is why they are equipped with multiple emergency power generators so the ECCS can be kept in operation no matter what happens.

The current turmoil shows the need for a change in the design concept.

The government has taken positive steps to strengthen quake-resistance standards for nuclear power plants since the Great Hanshin Earthquake struck Kobe and its vicinity in 1995. Steps to enhance their quake-resistance have also been taken, but they apparently were insufficient.

A plant's structure itself is sturdy, but its power generation process involves a complicated facility using multiple combinations of a huge quantity of parts and components.

It is difficult to predict damage to annexed structures, such as the electric power system. And it is impossible to forecast when and where a huge tremor will hit.

Because of its scarce natural resources, Japan has held nuclear power generation as a pillar of its energy policy. It has stuck to that policy even after the Three Mile Island accident led the United States to suspend new plant construction and the 1986 Chernobyl accident in the former Soviet Union prompted European nations to end their reliance on nuclear power.

Japan in the meantime has been slow in increasing its use of renewable natural energy sources.

Revisions to the country's Framework for Nuclear Energy Policy are currently under study, but Japan will likely adhere largely to the current policies.

Friday's earthquake halted operations at many nuclear power plants. It will take time to resume them. We should be aware that the reliance on nuclear power has ironically created risks in energy supply.

We must be modest in preparing for the danger of earthquakes. We must go back to square one in our discussions and delve into such fundamental questions as how far we should count on nuclear energy in this quake-prone country and whether safety can ever be secured for nuclear power plants.

Otherwise, many people will not be convinced of the need for nuclear energy after going through the fear of radiation leaks in addition to the devastation caused by the killer jolt.

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By the way, Fukushima (as other Japanese nuclear plants) is right in front of the sea, in a place where both eathquakes and tsunamis are common. Radiation is a too serious matter, it simply does not vanish from one day to the other. A major natural disaster could cause prolonged effects in the whole of Japan, as Japan is a rather small country. I don't get why they would build it there. In the US too, two nuclear plants are situated in California in an area where major earthquakes are expected, and they were not built to withstand earthquakes of a magnitude higher than 8.0 in the Richter scale. Most American reactors are situated in the heavily populated Eastern coast. I don't get it either.

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[RussiaPrussia]

Japan is not the only country who use nuclear for energy ..and they need that source for their industry ..Renewable natural energy sources can't produce enough energy for their production .

They have no army no oil ,no gas ..unlike Russia
..They only have their technology for catching up with developed countries ( who mostly use nuclear energy themselves).What do you suggest them instead ? Being a third world rice country ?

Using this accident for anti Japanese sentiment is pretty unfair esp when it comes from Russia.:rolleyes: Your Çernobil destroyed our Blacksea coast ( no tsunami, no earthquake , but Russians own mistake ) , cancer is highest in that region.

Rent some land to Japan, you have plenty and they can teach you how to build a safe power plant.

unlike japan we cleaned our shit, japan obviously is using the ocean to get rid of radioactivity. They are still refusing to build a Sarcophagus as of now, we built one in Chernobyl the same year it happened. Japan has only like 750 workers who are secrfising themselves to clean it all up called fukushima 50 while the USSR supplied over 500 thousand Liquidators.

We know how to built nuclear reactors, reactors built by corrupt western Ukrainians is a different story. Japans fukushima plant was faulty built and extremely stupid location chosen. Its Japan who should have known before that their country isnt reliable for building nuclear reactors, they get tsunamis or earth quakes like every year, and now they all of the sudden closed down their nuclear reactors except for two and they still can life without them without becoming a third world country. just shows how dumb they are for building them in the first place.

Here a list of showing how unreliable japanese nuclear reactors are since Chernobyl
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/国際原子力事象評価尺度



Rent some land to Japan, you have plenty and they can teach you how to build a safe power plant.

lol whos aggressively demanding land from use for nothing? Why should we rent them land if they demand islands from us.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Well ,according to story , young and inexperienced staff were kept for nightshift and experienced ones were at home when the Çernobil accident happened

I don't think Japanese would let this kind of accident happen, as they are known more responsible people when it comes to work ethics



Inexperienced staff was the main reason for the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. The normal staff was planning a test on the complicated nuclear reactor four, but another power plant on the circuit went down so Chernobyl was producing more power than usual. The day staff never got to the test that day and nobody told the night staff not to do it, so they tried to perform what they weren't trained for. Things started to get out of hand, so they tried an emergency shutdown, but failed.
On April 26, 1986, a test was being carried out at Reactor Number Four in the Chernobyl nuclear power station. The aim of the test was to see if, in the event of an unexpected loss of electric power, the turbines would provide sufficient electric power to keep the cooling system operating for the few seconds it would take the diesel generators to kick in and to provide backup electric power for the cooling water pumps. This test was being carried out because it is imperative that the fuel rods in a nuclear power plant are kept cool at all times.


Two Chernobyl plant workers died on the night of the accident, and 28 more people died within a few weeks as a result of acute radiation poisoning.
Repairs were carried out on the Chernobyl nuclear plant in Ukraine on October 1st, 1986, following a major explosion in April 1986 which, according to official statistics, affected 3,235,984 Ukrainians and sent radioactive clouds all over Europe.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Japan is not the only country who use nuclear for energy ..and they need that source for their industry ..Renewable natural energy sources can't produce enough energy for their production .

They have no army no oil ,no gas ..unlike Russia
..They only have their technology for catching up with developed countries ( who mostly use nuclear energy themselves).What do you suggest them instead ? Being a third world rice country ?

Using this accident for anti Japanese sentiment is pretty unfair esp when it comes from Russia.:rolleyes: Your Çernobil destroyed our Blacksea coast ( no tsunami, no earthquake , but Russians own mistake ) , cancer is highest in that region.

Rent some land to Japan, you have plenty and they can teach you how to build a safe power plant.

They have been very lax about trying to clean things up, and shown they don't really care how many people's lives are messed up over it.

I am not against nuclear power in principle but though the accident was severe and caused by outside forces and the design was not terrible for plant, since then they have done little to contain it. And it looks like any future plants will need even more precautions of the ones at fukushima were not enough. Such as being build below sea level for easy immediate flooding of plant if necessary.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

true ..
but my objection is , Fukushima became a major topic for anyone who has an Anti Japanese agenda ,I find this very unfair .

what japanese people think about accident ,do they blame their government for poor security cautions or work on problem without complaining , I expect the latter .

[Oneeye]

http://youtu.be/jJoy_0dJEjY

[zhaoyun]

http://youtu.be/jJoy_0dJEjY

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the debate.