Britain's imperialism is the same as ever, but now with Islamist undercurrents

[Fortis in Arduis]

A group of Israeli military officers called off an official visit to Britain last week over fears they could be arrested on war crimes charges, officials said today.

The four unidentified soldiers, who hold ranks from major to colonel, are the latest in a string of Israeli politicians and military officials forced to call off travel to Britain because of fear of legal prosecution.

Britain is one of the European pioneers of universal jurisdiction, a broad legal concept that empowers judges to issue arrest warrants for nearly any visitor accused of committing war crimes anywhere in the world.

Four soldiers have called off a visit to Britain over fears they could be arrested for war crime charges relating to the Israel offensive in Gaza last year Pro-Palestinian activists have sought to use this concept to press charges against Israelis involved in military operations in Palestinian territories, particularly since last year's offensive in the Gaza Strip.

British officials have vowed to change the law, which has severely strained relations with Israel.

The delegation had been invited to visit by the British Army. Officials said they were forced to call off the trip after their counterparts could not guarantee that they would not be arrested.

Strained: Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni cancelled a trip to London after activists persuaded a judge to issue a warrant for her arrest
Neither the British government nor the Israeli military would comment on the issue.

Today's announcement comes as the attorney general, Patricia Scotland, was in Israel on a private visit.

Baroness Scotland was scheduled to deliver a lecture at an Israeli university later today, although it was unclear if she will address the war crimes issue.
Israel's deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon, raised the issue of reforming British war crimes law in a meeting with Scotland today.

In a statement released after the meeting, Mr Ayalon said he made it clear that the situation is 'intolerable' and said 'this makes normal relations between the two countries difficult'.

Last month, activists persuaded a London judge to issue an arrest warrant for Israeli politician Tzipi Livni, who was foreign minister during the offensive in Gaza last year.

The warrant was withdrawn after she cancelled her trip, but the issue strained relations between Britain and Israel.

More than 1,400 Palestinians, including hundreds of civilians, were killed in the three-week offensive, which was launched to stop years of rocket attacks on southern Israel.

Thirteen Israelis were also killed. A UN investigation has accused both Israel and Hamas militants of committing war crimes during the fighting.

[Of course, the UN would, they wish to form the world government... right... :cool:]

The threat of arrest has forced several former security officials to call off trips to London, including a former general who remained onboard a plane at Heathrow Airport in order to avoid arrest.

Last year, Defence Minister Ehud Barak avoided an arrest attempt by successfully arguing he enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

Pro-Palestinian groups have condemned the move to reform the law in Britain.

Inayat Bunglawala, spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, said: 'We believe no attempt should be made (to change the law).

'There's no reason why Israel should be singled out for special treatment. If they're accused of war crimes, we have a duty - and legislation - to prosecute.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1240797/Israeli-military-delegation-official-visit-Britain-fears-arrested-war-crimes.html#ixzz0bnYvUDTA

Brown, Blair and Straw remain above the law, for atrocities committed against civilians and our own troops, for a fucking finance war, whilst little Israel would be slung in the dock for defending her civilians.

What a fucking liberty... :coffee:

[December]

All this is just smokescreen. Soap operas of always to keep our minds busy. But don't forget that Israel owes its existence to the UK governments all too much.

How many hebrews lived in what is today Israel before some remarkable politicians fed the dream of establishing a beligerant home there?

And who were these politicians? Where were they from? Who elected them? Why?

[anonymaus]

How many hebrews lived in what is today Israel before some remarkable politicians fed the dream of establishing a beligerant home there?

And who were these politicians? Where were they from? Who elected them? Why?

and what colour socks were they wearing? and what type of tea did they drink?

[December]

and what colour socks were they wearing? and what type of tea did they drink?

And what's the point of that intervention?

[SwordoftheVistula]

Doesn't Israel do the exact same thing? In fact they actually invented this type of law. For example, putting an American who was born in the Ukraine on trial for working at a prison camp in Poland which was under the administration of Germany (John Demjanjuk) and abducting from Argentina a man born in Germany to put on trial for wartime actions which took place in Europe (Adolf Eichmann). I don't agree with these type of laws in general, but if they are used against anyone, you couldn't find a nicer target than Israel.

[Fortis in Arduis]

All this is just smokescreen. Soap operas of always to keep our minds busy. But don't forget that Israel owes its existence to the UK governments all too much.

How many hebrews lived in what is today Israel before some remarkable politicians fed the dream of establishing a beligerant home there?

And who were these politicians? Where were they from? Who elected them? Why?

There has always been a Jewish presence in Palestine and even before Zionism began in earnest there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem in the 19th Century.

The population of Palestine was quite small, because the land laid undeveloped, with malaria-infested swamps and was unable to sustain a large population.

The Zionist pioneers turned Israel into a garden.

May I direct you towards some nationalist-Zionist webpages which may be able to answer your questions?

http://jtf.org/issues.php

There is a lot of good material there, from a nationalist-Zionist rather than the usual Marxist-Zionist, or Zionist Establishment perspective.

;)

The British policy towards Israel was to back a Marxist regime in Israel which persecuted right-wing and nationalist Zionists.

I am very sympathetic towards nationalist-Zionists and feel that we owe the universe a huge apology for having been such a bad influence in that region.

That Marxist regime, in collusion with the British, which is fairly entrenched now, resulted in boat loads of Jewish refugees, fleeing what we now know as the Holocaust, being turned back into Europe.

If there is to be any Holocaust revisionism it should focus on what American Jews did NOT do to save European Jewry (to shut them the fuck up about 'Nazis'), and on what the filthy British Establishment, and the Israeli Marxist traitors (who are STILL in power) did.

Pinning the blame exclusively on the Axis powers, the Nazis or the German people will no longer wash, nor will the blanket anti-Zionism which seems to pervade our beleaguered milieu.

Capitalist and communist regimes continue to use the Holocaust as anti-nationalist propaganda, when in fact, they played a somewhat passive-aggressive to direct role in its execution, with Britain, in particular, making the most disgraceful political alliances, for which we have paid dearly.

Oh and some eye-candy. ;)

This is Art Deco with a Jewish twist:

http://www.israel-a-la-carte.com/upload/image008.png

http://sillybooks.com/v-web/gallery/albums/israel/IMG_5744_Yurika_in_lobby_King_David_Hotel_Jerusale m_Israel_12_11_07.jpg

The King David Hotel.

If there is one thing I want to do before I die, it is to have lunch there.

[December]

Well, as much as I can admit the success of the jewish community to transform an hostile zone into a desert, I can never admire how they achieved that, with total official support from the "west" since Arthur Balfour's declaration. As you know, Balfour was deeply connected with one of the dysplasias (Rothschild clan) which metastized onto the malignant cancer of worldwide Zionism, which is more than a nationalist movement. Zionism as Shimon Peretz once let slip, was the first true National Socialism.

As such, Zionism advocates Chosenitism, and that was what we have seen all these years in the "Holy Land". During the journey to take the Dome of the Rock and build the 3rd Temple of David where the Mosk of Al-Aqsa stands today, brutal pogroms took place in those lands before our apalled but indifferent eyes.

Sponsoured and armed by the "west" (namely the Anglo-American world), Jews from all over the world migrated in waves (the celebrated "Aliyahs"). Where they were 24.000 from a population of 400.000 people, before the first Aliyah in 1882, they rose to almost 7 millions through war and terrorism with an all too kind permission from the "west".

While this could seem only as a mere venal sin from the "west" in contemplating the oppression of other people in the name of a cause, it is also a blatant truth that the zionist jews dragged the "west" into a war with the Arab world. It may seem a commonplace to blame the jews for our problems with terrorism, but it is much reasonable to do this because, in fact, we (not me) keep sponsouring a state which shows us a deceptive image of progress, while in its backyard Israel keeps doing its own savage Final Solution.

And from Balfour to Blair, from Roosevelt to Obama, the "west" will keep standing as a human shield for Israel, as long as we finance them with ultimate technology for the butchery. While the "official" History poses sickening organizations like Irgun or Hagannah as freedom warriors (from which the current Israeli army and parties stemmed), Hezzbollah and Hamas (reaction movements to terrorism) will be labeled terrorist organizations.

I bet that any of us (if deprived of dignity like the Arabs have become there) would surely rather die than being enslaved and dishounored. If Jus in Bellum is terrorism, I could be a potential terrorist and I bet you'll all would. Meanwhile the circus goes on and we are entangled in a conflict where we do not belong, our peoples under the omnipresent threat of terrorism while our leaders are safe in their havens making a fortune sponsouring the zionist clans.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Well, as much as I can admit the success of the jewish community to transform an hostile zone into a desert, I can never admire how they achieved that, with total official support from the "west" since Arthur Balfour's declaration. As you know, Balfour was deeply connected with one of the dysplasias (Rothschild clan) which metastized onto the malignant cancer of worldwide Zionism, which is more than a nationalist movement. Zionism as Shimon Peretz once let slip, was the first true National Socialism.

You mean a dessert into a flower? FTW?

I do not think that the problem was Zionism, but the political ideologues who won the political argument.

Shimon Peres would have said that because he is a left-wing twat, and he probably said it in 'Haaretz', the left-wing newspaper. Did you become a little mixed up there? :p

In the end, they had to fight for it and over it, it was not just given.


As such, Zionism advocates Chosenitism, and that was what we have seen all these years in the "Holy Land". During the journey to take the Dome of the Rock and build the 3rd Temple of David where the Mosk of Al-Aqsa stands today, brutal pogroms took place in those lands before our apalled but indifferent eyes.

What is wrong with having a national or ethnic preference?

How could we have been appalled and indifferent?

The Al-Aqsa Mosque was built as an insult to Jews, with an imperialist intent, and designated the third most holy site in Islam, so as to leave an open wound. Islam is politics + religion. This must be understood.


Sponsoured and armed by the "west" (namely the Anglo-American world), Jews from all over the world migrated in waves (the celebrated "Aliyahs"). Where they were 24.000 from a population of 400.000 people, before the first Aliyah in 1882, they rose to almost 7 millions through war and terrorism with an all too kind permission from the "west".

I think that it is sad that Israel is a NWO project, with a Bolshevist Establishment, but there has been democratic progress recently with some Jewish nationalist-type candidates making it into the Knesset, and I think that we should support that, and secular Arab nationalism, in preference to Islamic fundamentalism or any form of internationalism whatsoever.

The situation is messy but not intractable.

[The Lawspeaker]

That's all very nice but Israel is not our concern.

[Fortis in Arduis]

That's all very nice but Israel is not our concern.

Israel is a major NWO project which needs busting.

[December]

That's all very nice but Israel is not our concern.

I agree too.


You mean a dessert into a flower? FTW? My mistake. First I wrote a desert into a garden, then I wrote an hostile zone into a garden, and finally I wrote a mistake. :)


Shimon Peres would have said that because he is a left-wing twat, and he probably said it in 'Haaretz', the left-wing newspaper. Did you become a little mixed up there? :p Ah, no, it was a special interview for a Norwegian TV which was promptly removed from public. But it's true: National Socialism was a term first coined by jewish thinkers.

Peretz is the original form of his name. ;)


What is wrong with having a national or ethnic preference?

How could we have been appalled and indifferent?Knowing what was/is going on but shrugging our shoulders.


The Al-Aqsa Mosque was built as an insult to Jews, with an imperialist intent, and designated the third most holy site in Islam, so as to leave an open wound.
Man, the 2nd Temple of David was destroyed by the Romans around 70AD. The Kingdom of Jerusalem was Christian when Muslims conquered it and a church was standing there.

The mosk of Al-Aqsa is there since 1300 years ago, more than the summed lifetime of both jewish temples who had been there BC. At most you could say that the mosk of Al-Aqsa was built as insult to Christians.

Changing the name of Derry City into Londonderry, that yes, was a direct insult with intentions of leaving a wound open, as are the annual orange marches, with tunes celebrating the occupation of a nation.


Islam is politics + religion. This must be understood.Just like Judaism. ;)

[Fortis in Arduis]

Man, the 2nd Temple of David was destroyed by the Romans around 70AD. The Kingdom of Jerusalem was Christian when Muslims conquered it and a church was standing there.

The vile usurper religions.


The mosk of Al-Aqsa is there since 1300 years ago, more than the summed lifetime of both jewish temples who had been there BC. At most you could say that the mosk of Al-Aqsa was built as insult to Christians.

You forgot to capitalise 'Jewish'. Why do you have this habit?

It was firstly a Jewish temple, and it is the most holy site in Judaism.


Just like Judaism. ;)

So who are the good guys in this situation? Name your favourites.

So far, you have referred to a Jewish Marxist.

[Fortis in Arduis]

The implication by these individuals is that the Jewish people are not a 'real' people nor an ethno-culture and therefore do not warrant capitalisation.

Such people usually either dislike Jews or Zionism (which they often fail or refuse to recognise as a politically diverse movement) yet would still prefer to form political alliances with Israeli Marxists, Jewish traitors to the Jewish people, usually not knowing that Israel was founded by such people, and continues today as a near-Stalinistic state.

Israel is a major pawn in the New World Order, but this is a problem which could be solved, especially if America would cease to 'give' foreign aid (which, in practice, must be spent on weapons systems manufactured in America) and is used by America to buy political influence in Israel and thenceforth, the region.

[December]

The implication by these individuals is that the Jewish people are not a 'real' people or an ethno-culture and therefore do not warrant capitalisation.

Such people...
So you warrant yourself the right to label a person based in a capitalization suspicion that you've seen in a thread. You gotta add that one in Wikipedia here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Discrimination&action=edit) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Antisemitism_topics&action=edit). By the way thank Jimbo we always have Wiki at hand! Do you know the concept of argumentum ad-hominem? Here:

An ad hominem argument [...] is an argument which links the validity of a premise to an irrelevant characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.Let me come up with something equivalent: The fact that you dodged the usurpation of Derry City could be suspicious? Then someone (not properly just someone) would come and say, "yes, the last time I saw that style was among Ulster loyalists" and finally I would come a third time without even having heard you and say "yeah, it is a loyalist style and it stinks, etc, etc..." giving a lecture describing how...

Nevermind. I don't participate in lynchings. Not the first time I witness it, but this one looks particullary awkward. The "thank you for this post" plugin gives these an even more refined taste.

What next, Fortis in Ardius will alert for the fact that I write "capitalization" with Z and you'll intervene using your credibility as Forum Owner suggesting that it may be yet another sign of potential stormfrontish prejudice? Last time I heard about this style of arbitration in real life was that on drumhead court-martials. Lynchings, to put it short.

[Fortis in Arduis]

What next, Fortis in Ardius will alert for the fact that I write "capitalization" with Z and you'll intervene using your credibility as Forum Owner suggesting that it may be yet another sign of potential stormfrontish prejudice?

Well, if that was where you cut your teeth then naturally you would prefer, and be more familiar with, the more American spelling. :thumb001:

[Loki]

What next, Fortis in Ardius will alert for the fact that I write "capitalization" with Z and you'll intervene using your credibility as Forum Owner suggesting that it may be yet another sign of potential stormfrontish prejudice? Last time I heard about this style of arbitration in real life was that on drumhead court-martials. Lynchings, to put it short.

He did not alert me to it. It's no big deal, you can talk like you want. And I am not talking here in capacity as forum owner, but in the capacity of a fellow debate participant -- so feel free to disagree with me. :)

Here is my point: If you choose to communicate in WN-ish lingo, then do not expect to be taken seriously in the same way that someone who does not use emotional, hidden slurs, would be.

[December]

And this is why more and more I think that political fora have no future.


Well, if that was where you cut your teeth then naturally you would prefer, and be more familiar with, the more American spelling. :thumb001:

Yes, unfortunately you are not the first to say such thing. Here, here, I don't speak English that well, but back in the highschool I had some good teachers who told me what was the most correct spelling:

http://forum.stirpes.net/linguistics-philology/24331-ise-ize-those-who-think-ize-american-spelling.html

As for your deep concern, I reserve myself the right to write "jewish" like I write "nazis", "zionists", "stormfronters", "carbonari", "freemasons", "muslims". Personally, I'm positive that you wouldn't unchain a witch-hunt if I had referred to the latter without capitalization. If so often I forget to capitalize those I respect, why should I worry capitalizing peoples, religions or sects for which I have no reverence?

If you want to proceed the debate, please focus on the questions. It's easy to use ad-hominems when arguments become scarce.

[Fortis in Arduis]

If you want to proceed the debate, please focus on the questions. It's easy to use ad-hominems when arguments become scarce.

Which Jews do you admire? :coffee:

[December]

Which Jews do you admire? :coffee:
Zarco, maybe. Why should I admire any Jew more than, say, a Thai? Honestly among them all, Neturei Karta still have some unmarred respect from me. At least they seeem human and corageous enough to denounce the butchery going on the backyards of Israel.

(LOL... I've just noticed that I never wrote "Israel" without capitalization. Nonetheless, what a boring task capitalizing "jewish" or "jew" a dozen times in a text. For God sake... what this debate have turned in.)

And so, Englishman, now you know what's Oxford Spelling. You should know it 10 times better than me. And if you wiki, you'll also find who was Zarco. This thread does not make any sense anymore. Enjoy your coffee and that paper. (The Grunaid, maybe? :D )

[Fortis in Arduis]

Zarco, maybe. Why should I admire any Jew more than, say, a Thai? Honestly among them all, Neturei Karta still have some unmarred respect from me. At least they seeem human and corageous enough to denounce the butchery going on the backyards of Israel.

(LOL... I've just noticed that I never wrote "Israel" without capitalization. Nonetheless, what a boring task capitalizing "jewish" or "jew" a dozen times in a text. For God sake... what this debate have turned in.)

And so, Englishman, now you know what's Oxford Spelling. You should know it 10 times better than me. And if you wiki, you'll also find who was Zarco. This thread does not make any sense anymore. Enjoy your coffee and that paper. (The Grunaid, maybe? :D )

No, Arutz Sheva:


Columbus was a Jew named Salvador Fernando Zarco and was among those expelled from Spain in 1492, a rare triangular Kabbalistic signet indicates. Jose Rodrigues Dos Santos has authored an historical novel, Codex 632: The Secret Identity of Christopher Columbus, which relates the deciphering of a rare triangular Kabbalistic signet.


The interpretation of the recent discovery of the signet claims to reveal the secret identity of Columbus. The unique triangular monogram is similar to inscriptions on gravestones in Jewish cemeteries in Spain and southern France.
The interpretation of the recent discovery of the signet claims to reveal the secret identity of Columbus.


It was used in the agreement between Columbus and Spanish King and Queen Ferdinand and Isabella. The Kabbalistic monogram, in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek, contains two secret names: Cristobal Colon, his "nom de plume," and Salvador Fernando Zarco, Columbus's birth name, according to the author.

The American Library of Congress possesses one of four original copies of the Columbus Codex.

The Spanish kingdom signed the declaration to expel all Jews, stating that "we ordered that the Jews be separated from the cities and towns... and… ordered that an Inquisition be established in such domains."

Columbus replied, "Your Highnesses, having driven out all the Jews from your realms and lordships... I should go to the said parts of India, and for this be accorded me great rewards and ennobled me so that from that time henceforth I might style myself and be high admiral of the Ocean Sea and perpetual Governor of the islands and continent which I should discover... from generation to generation."

The only Jews who remained in Spain were those who converted to Christianity out of fear of being killed. Many of them continued to observe Jewish law clandestinely, and their descendents even today are "Marranos" (crypto-Jews) who secretly observe Jewish laws.

Columbus came to the attention of the Spanish kingdom through Luis de Santange, a Jew and an accountant to the Royal Court, Rabbi Abraham Zacuto and his pupil Joseph Vecinho, a physician to Portuguese King John II. An astronomer and mathematician, Zacuto developed the "Almanac Perpetuum," which included the Tables of Navigation in Hebrew.

Luis urged the Crown to approve the expedition in "an enterprise of so little risk, yet which could prove of so great service to [the Almighty]...[not] to speak of very great increase and glory for her
realms and crown..."

Columbus left Spain on August 3, 1492. the day after the Ninth of Av, marking the destruction of the First and Second Holy Temples. However, Columbus ordered his crew to be on board the day before, the same day that was the deadline for Jews in Spain to convert to Christianity, leave the country or face death, implying that he was secretly Jewish and wanted to identify with his brethren.

Columbus carried with him Zacuto's Hebrew Table of Navigation and charts. His astronomical tables were translated into Spanish by a pupil of Zacuto, Joseph Vecinho, physician to King John II. Vecinho may have translated it for Columbus for his journey.

Columbus was known to have studied the Bible and once calculated, incorrectly, the date of the destruction of the Second Temple as being in the year 68 instead of 70.

Besides the Kabbalistic signet, another sign indicating he was Jewish is this use of the initials for "B'Ezrat Ha Shem," or "with G-d's help" in letters to his son Diego.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127990

So you like self-hating Jews then? What a surprise. :wink

I prefer Rabbi Meir Kahane:



Dear World,

It appears that you are hard to please. I understand that you are upset over us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry and outraged? Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset over us. Today, it is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; yesterday, it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we, the Jewish people - upset you. We upset a German people who elected a Hitler and we upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset. We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset, for centuries, a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through Inquisitions. And we upset the arch-enemy of the Church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

It is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish State. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you - and have you love us? And so we decided to come home - to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your Pogroms and Inquisitions and Crusades and Holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state - we continue to upset you.

You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset. Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920, 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered hundreds of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron - in 1929.

Dear World, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots in 1936-39? Was it because of Arab upset over 1967? And when you, World, proposed a U.N. Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a Palestinian State alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that upset stomach caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset then?

The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand be given them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish State into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "idbah-al-yahud" - "Slaughter the Jews!" that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today - but we should not "repress" them.

Dear World, you stood by the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians daily dream of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us. In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who could not care less.

;)

[December]

I prefer Rabbi Meir Kahane:

;)
...

Man, disengage for a while from this... You are obsessing.


So you like self-hating Jews then? What a surprise. :wink
Not that Zarco. :eusa_doh:

For all that matters, do something, just type Zarco in Wikipedia and click "Go":
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3507&stc=1&d=1262893822

Then click on the 1st result. No other known "Zarco" here.
There.

[Fortis in Arduis]

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Man, disengage for a while from this... You are obsessing.



No, I like nationalists, including Jewish nationalists, and my values and ideals are consistent with theirs.



Not that Zarco. :eusa_doh:


You are just another Christian freak to me.

[December]

No, I like nationalists, including Jewish nationalists, and my values and ideals are consistent with theirs.



You are just another Christian freak to me.
What I am to you, doesn't matter a single bit to me.

That you may want to murder your own character is not my business. Your obsession with jews and muslims (for different reasons) is of your concern only and I don't care about it.

But if you think you can compensate your lack of arguments by constantly dodging debate while attacking me with childish red herrings and appeals, you fool yourself.

[Fortis in Arduis]

What I am to you, doesn't matter a single bit to me.

That you may want to murder your own character is not my business. Your obsession with jews and muslims (for different reasons) is of your concern only and I don't care about it.

But if you think you can compensate your lack of arguments by constantly dodging debate while attacking me with childish red herrings and appeals, you fool yourself.

:lol00002: