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The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 07:24 PM
Map, of Balkan states.
http://wikitravel.org/upload/shared//thumb/7/7f/Balkans_regions_map.png/350px-Balkans_regions_map.png

A short description about Borreby sub-race.

Borreby: Large-headed brachycephals of Ofnet-Afalou type, the unreduced brachycephalic strain in Crô-Magnon; found in solution in peripheral regions of northwestern Europe, and as a major population element in most of northern and central Germany, and in Belgium. Like the Brünn race, with which it is often associated, it occurs also in North Africa and the Canary Islands.
Evidence of the survival of an extremely tall, brachycephalized, Upper Palaeolithic stock is found to a lesser extent in the Carpathians; and to a greater, in the nucleus of the Dinaric Alpine region, from Bosnia to northern Albania, and centered in Montenegro. Although the presence of these nuclei cannot now be fully explained, it seems probable that they represent local survivals and reëmergences of relatively unreduced Upper Palaeolithic populations. The Montenegrins are the tallest people in Europe; their tallness does not, however, imply a thin or linear build; their bodies are frequently thick-set, lateral in constitutional type.

According to this century ago map Balkan/Borrebies are quite strong in mountainous Western Balkans centered in Montenegro and Northern Albania (as stated by source), but what about other parts do they get high numbers of Borrebies or are just concentrated in certain isolated parts likewise in mention two states or parts respectively.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12159&stc=1&d=1310167393

Balkan/Borreby types.
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3334/66278006.jpg
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/4098745_borreby_1.jpg
http://www.football-talents.co.uk/player_img/Ervis-Kraja-01.jpg
http://zeri.info/uploads/Pleurat%20Sejdiu-1371799857.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zD7b0CHctus/UNcvptxS91I/AAAAAAAAAt8/W-zJZy7JdyQ/s1600/Adem+Jashari+dhe+personi+q%C3%AB+m%C3%AB+vinte+i+n gjash%C3%ABm++1993-94+Tiran%C3%AB.jpg

So, any Balkan state in specific you think has large Balkan/Borreby influence along other phenotypes?

Kastrioti1443
04-01-2014, 07:26 PM
Northern Albania, Western Kosovo, Drenica, Montenegro, Hercegovina, Southwestern Serbia.

In Montenegro and Malsia e Madhe ( Northwestern Albania) it peaks.

The most textbook examples of Balkan Borrebys showed by Coon were Albanian Highlanders.

Stefan_Dusan
04-01-2014, 07:27 PM
According to Coon I remember reading the epicenter is Montenegro. Though by classification threads here it seems Northern Albanians and Kosovar Albanians have the most Boarebby's (Skerdi, Callmyname, Velechik, supposedly Kastrioti if he ever shows a picture). Even iNirdi strikes me as having some Boarebby influence.

Cleitus
04-01-2014, 07:29 PM
According to Coon I remember reading the epicenter is Montenegro. Though by classification threads here it seems Northern Albanians and Kosovar Albanians have the most Boarebby's (Skerdi, Callmyname, Velechik, supposedly Kastrioti if he ever shows a picture). Even iNirdi strikes me as having some Boarebby influence.

Inird is mostly Borreby dude you are not the best classifier.

Stefan_Dusan
04-01-2014, 07:33 PM
Inird is mostly Borreby dude you are not the best classifier.

Yeah he could be, keep in mind I saw him in Chicago and you didn't xD

Are you still upset I don't consider you boarreby :D

The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 07:35 PM
According to Coon I remember reading the epicenter is Montenegro. Though by classification threads here it seems Northern Albanians and Kosovar Albanians have the most Boarebby's (Skerdi, Callmyname, Velechik, supposedly Kastrioti if he ever shows a picture). Even iNirdi strikes me as having some Boarebby influence.

The only mention member as classic Balkan/Borreby could be called Velechik which at the same time represent Malesia's Balkan/Borreby widespread type the best...Also iNird to certain extent however a reduced type thus more of a Alpinoid type than a classic Borreby.

What about other Balkanic states, do you think other states got Borrebies or its minor?

Cleitus
04-01-2014, 07:36 PM
Yeah he could be, keep in mind I saw him in Chicago and you didn't xD

Are you still upset I don't consider you boarreby :D
He resembles a cousin of mine who was Classified as Borreby/Nordid.

Sikeliot
04-01-2014, 07:37 PM
There are some in NW Greece.. Epirus and Ionian islands too.

Kastrioti1443
04-01-2014, 07:37 PM
According to Coon I remember reading the epicenter is Montenegro. Though by classification threads here it seems Northern Albanians and Kosovar Albanians have the most Boarebby's (Skerdi, Callmyname, Velechik, supposedly Kastrioti if he ever shows a picture). Even iNirdi strikes me as having some Boarebby influence.

I am not very much CM, but you can ask Ujku and Machette.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 07:38 PM
Please don't go off-topic, this ain't about individuals its a subject regarding Balkan/Borrebies types in Balkan states.

Stefan_Dusan
04-01-2014, 07:39 PM
The only mention member as classic Balkan/Borreby could be called Velechik which at the same time represent Malesia's Balkan/Borreby widespread type the best...Also iNird to certain extent however a reduced type thus more of a Alpinoid type than a classic Borreby.

What about other Balkanic states, do you think other states got Borrebies or its minor?

Other then Montenegro and northern Albania region along with Kosovo, I'd say BiH specifically among Serbs in Herzegovina.


He resembles a cousin of mine who was Classified as Borreby/Nordid.

I don't see any Nordid in iNirdi, my first impression of him would be (if I didn't know him) would be some Italian dude.

cally
04-01-2014, 07:40 PM
Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Bosnia and Serbia

Kastrioti1443
04-01-2014, 07:45 PM
Balkan Borrebys in crowds:

http://kk.rks-gov.net/suhareke/getattachment/894289e6-538e-402b-b53f-7153d3b64d1b/11-014.jpg.aspx
http://rajonipress.com/img12/00_12_13649036631439154034.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-28.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/miss_bjeshka_2004/images/Untitled-14.jpg
http://www.yllpress.com/fotografite/artikujt/afrim_zhitia_emer_i_madh_i_luf_1.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 07:46 PM
Other then Montenegro and northern Albania region along with Kosovo, I'd say BiH specifically among Serbs in Herzegovina.

What about Serbia, or Eastern Balkans...Is Borreby type spread like in Western Balkan mountainous regions or are pretty much negligible, since a decent numbers of Serbs do show Borreby influence as far I've seen myself.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 07:51 PM
There are some in NW Greece.. Epirus and Ionian islands too.

Greece has mostly reduced types of Borrebies whom can be classified more as Alpinoid with Med as great influence which explains a more gracile Borreby thus Alpinoid type.

Stefan_Dusan
04-01-2014, 07:53 PM
What about Serbia, or Eastern Balkans...Is Borreby type spread like in Western Balkan mountainous regions or are pretty much negligible, since a decent numbers of Serbs do show Borreby influence as far I've seen myself.

Tbh, it's hard for me to tell about a borreby from a general CM type, or even west-Baltid when it's combined with other phenotypes like Pontid/Dinarid. Anyways here is a video of Kosovo Serbs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfjM454qDdg&feature=player_embedded#at=145

Go to about 2:00 minute and tell me all phenotypes you see. At 2:05 what I think I see is a Borreby/Alpine (tall, ugly sweater) and Norid/Borreby (blue coat, cigarette).

I would say as you go to northern Serbia farmlands it's pretty much Pontid/Alpine types with some Dinarcization.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-01-2014, 08:02 PM
Tbh, it's hard for me to tell about a borreby from a general CM type, or even west-Baltid when it's combined with other phenotypes like Pontid/Dinarid.

I would say as you go to northern Serbia farmlands it's pretty much Pontid/Alpine types with some Dinarcization.

Borreby is vastly CM influenced, so normally is hard to tell...Borreby pure form is difficult to find since melts/ed with Alpine types mostly or other phenotypes such as Pontids, so features go normally more softer unlike rough, robust and somewhat archaic Borrebies of pure forms.

Stefan_Dusan
04-01-2014, 08:08 PM
Borreby is vastly CM influenced, so normally is hard to tell...Borreby pure form is difficult to find since melts/ed with Alpine types mostly or other phenotypes such as Pontids, so features go normally more softer unlike rough, robust and somewhat archaic Borrebies of pure forms.

This is a bad photo but it's of my family, the one on the right I think is Boarreby with Dinarid the one on the left is plain Dinarid:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/10284219604_239a94cfba.jpg

Ignore the women, they don't count.

armenianbodyhair
04-01-2014, 08:20 PM
Still unsure why they have to be called balkan borrebies, instead of just borrebies, enough of this separate but equal crap.

ChocolateFace
04-01-2014, 08:54 PM
They are found mostly among Albanians in general (Ghegs and Tosks also). They are also extremely prevalent in Montenegro. Herzegovina,parts of Croatia and Serbia,Bosnia too.) Borrebies in Slovenia resemble central Euro Borrebies. They are not as common in Greece,Macedonia and Bulgaria.

armenianbodyhair
04-01-2014, 11:00 PM
I don't see any Nordid in iNirdi, my first impression of him would be (if I didn't know him) would be some Italian dude.
He can pass as a highlander...of Scotland.

iNird
04-01-2014, 11:08 PM
a thread hijacked about my classification. i'm flattered :D

Linebacker
04-01-2014, 11:09 PM
Am I a balkan borreby?

ChocolateFace
04-01-2014, 11:33 PM
a thread hijacked about my classification. i'm flattered :D

You look Albanian to me, British Isles 2nd. Italian 3rd.

Alenka
04-02-2014, 12:01 AM
Still unsure why they have to be called balkan borrebies, instead of just borrebies, enough of this separate but equal crap.
Exactly. I don't understd what is the difference between Borrebies and Balkan Borrebies.

ChocolateFace
04-02-2014, 12:04 AM
Exactly. I don't understd what is the difference between Borrebies and Balkan Borrebies.

The Borreby type was considered a northern/central euro type. Later anthropologists discvovered the type was widespread in the balkans and called it balkan borreby like types. Its the same type.

armenianbodyhair
04-02-2014, 12:07 AM
Am I a balkan borreby?

You have some CM component. What color are you naturally, just curious.

armenianbodyhair
04-02-2014, 12:08 AM
Exactly. I don't understd what is the difference between Borrebies and Balkan Borrebies.

The location.

Skerdilaid
04-02-2014, 12:15 AM
Am I a balkan borreby?

Pontid

Mark
04-02-2014, 12:17 AM
The location.

+ mindset. I find myself spiritually allied with Balkan Borrebies.

aherne
04-02-2014, 05:08 AM
In this order: Yugoslavians = Albanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks. Most Dacians belonged to Balkan CM. The epicenter today is the Dalmatian mountains range.

Kalimtari
04-02-2014, 10:58 AM
Balkan Borreby is basically CM + DIN, Scando Borrebies don't have the DIN component. I'm a CM-din myself (193cm, 125 kilos, 48-52 shoe size, 66 cm head circumference), I'd even go as far as to say Balkan borrebies are rougher built than Scando Borrebies.

Linebacker
04-02-2014, 12:12 PM
You have some CM component. What color are you naturally, just curious.

Naturally Im very pale,you can see in thse young pictures of me around 13-14.Im usually a little embarassed of those since I was a skinny mofo but I'll show them anyway.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-02-2014, 12:58 PM
a thread hijacked about my classification. i'm flattered :D

Indeed, they turned my thread into personal classification thread of yours. :bored:

:p

cally
04-02-2014, 01:05 PM
a thread hijacked about my classification. i'm flattered :D

Why haven't I seen a pic of you :)

The Illyrian Warrior
04-02-2014, 01:11 PM
In this order: Yugoslavians = Albanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks. Most Dacians belonged to Balkan CM. The epicenter today is the Dalmatian mountains range.

From Coon studies show the least prevalent spot with Balkan/Borrebies is Carpathian mountains thus Romanians stand with least of influence of borrebies, also Romania is quite mixed to contain a Palaeolithic phenotypes such as Borrebies IMO.

Kastrioti1443
04-02-2014, 01:26 PM
From Coon studies show the least prevalent spot with Balkan/Borrebies is Carpathian mountains thus Romanians stand with least of influence of borrebies, also Romania is quite mixed to contain a Palaeolithic phenotypes such as Borrebies IMO.

Coon isn't everything. He did mistakes also, even in his study '' The Mountains of Giants''. For example he said that most Norids are found in Low Shkodra villages, but that is not true. Most Norids are found in Nikaj-Mertur area in Tropoja. We can even say that are more norids in Malsia than Zadrima.

Romanians have for sure more Borreby than Greeks and maybe even Bulgarians, even though I am not sure about the last one.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-02-2014, 02:38 PM
Coon isn't everything. He did mistakes also, even in his study '' The Mountains of Giants''. For example he said that most Norids are found in Low Shkodra villages, but that is not true. Most Norids are found in Nikaj-Mertur area in Tropoja. We can even say that are more norids in Malsia than Zadrima.

Romanians have for sure more Borreby than Greeks and maybe even Bulgarians, even though I am not sure about the last one.

Still was one of the best scientist about phenotypes and everything regarding it, even with few resources he had at the time....So more or less, most of his work could be applied even today.

ChocolateFace
04-02-2014, 10:02 PM
From Coon studies show the least prevalent spot with Balkan/Borrebies is Carpathian mountains thus Romanians stand with least of influence of borrebies, also Romania is quite mixed to contain a Palaeolithic phenotypes such as Borrebies IMO.

Balkan Borreby is just an extension of the Carpathian CM type. So Romania does make sense in my opinion.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 01:23 PM
BUMP.

dralos
04-20-2014, 02:27 PM
i think i've little borreby in me i think mostly dinarid/atlantid hope its not off topic but i come from a very very borreby influenced region

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 02:32 PM
^ Malesia of Gjakova nowadays known as Tropoja is really heavy Borreby influenced however plain around Gjakova together with city is quite mixed with different phenotypes.

PS. You do have some Borreby in you dralos but in minor amount.

dralos
04-20-2014, 02:40 PM
^ Malesia of Gjakova nowadays known as Tropoja is really heavy Borreby influenced however plain around Gjakova together with city is quite mixed with different phenotypes.

PS. You do have some Borreby in you dralos but in minor amount.
it used to be more but when i lost some weight i became more din arid/atlantid and whats weird is that when i've short hair i get a tougher look so more din arid but long hair makes me more atlantic

dralos
04-20-2014, 02:41 PM
^ Malesia of Gjakova nowadays known as Tropoja is really heavy Borreby influenced however plain around Gjakova together with city is quite mixed with different phenotypes.

PS. You do have some Borreby in you dralos but in minor amount.
but i also disagree i think malesia and the lowlands have equal borrebys i think many members have said that borreby is very strong in gjakova and surroundings

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 02:45 PM
it used to be more but when i lost some weight i became more din arid/atlantid and whats weird is that when i've short hair i get a tougher look so more din arid but long hair makes me more atlantic

Personally more or less but I do tend to look somewhat Pontid sometimes however I was classified as Dinarid and look majorly Dinarid also with beard I do look alot rougher aswell.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 02:49 PM
but i also disagree i think malesia and the lowlands have equal borrebys i think many members have said that borreby is very strong in gjakova and surroundings

Impossible, reason is highlanders carry in en-masse this phenotype in Balkans thus was spread in lowlands but lowlands had already a huge number of Dinarid, Alpine, Pontids, even Atlantids etc. so its immposible to have same amount of Borreby with Highlands for the reason I've stated above.

dralos
04-20-2014, 02:52 PM
Impossible, reason is highlanders carry in en-masse this phenotype in Balkans thus was spread in lowlands but lowlands had already a huge number of Dinarid, Alpine, Pontids, even Atlantids etc. so its immposible to have same amount of Borreby with Highlands for the reason I've stated above.
but don't the highlanders also have a lot of others too?

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 02:59 PM
but don't the highlanders also have a lot of others too?

They do, Dinarid, Norid CM, but at lower scale because of terrain and isolation which made possible to preserve archaic features of Paleo-Balkanite phenotypes such as Borreby in contrary to plains where many migration took place thus mixture was inevitable therefore you got have more different phenotypes as a result.

dralos
04-20-2014, 03:02 PM
They do, Dinarid, Norid CM, but at lower scale because of terrain and isolation which made possible to preserve archaic features of Paleo-Balkanite phenotypes such as Borreby in contrary to plains where many migration took place thus mixture was inevitable therefore you got have more different phenotypes as a result.
illyrian post me a pic with only highlanders of malsia e jakoves so i can see it bcs i can't really imagine it

Dorian
04-20-2014, 03:07 PM
http://i58.tinypic.com/17d8gl.jpg
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f1/f4/8556810ae7a0ba59e07b0210.L.jpg
http://cine-hk.chez-alice.fr/Hkcine/IMAGESJ_L/Gweilos/stefanos-miltsakakis-invincible.jpg
http://www.rice.edu/projects/thresher/issues/84/960927/AE/MaximumRisk.gif
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/292981/292981_full.jpg
http://1.fwcdn.pl/ph/01/03/103/336116.1.jpg
http://users.atw.hu/vandamme/pix/actors/stefanos_mr.jpg
http://prisonmovies.nfshost.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bloodsport-4-2-300x173.jpg

Badass race,i doubt there is much of it in Balkan countries.

dralos
04-20-2014, 03:09 PM
http://i58.tinypic.com/17d8gl.jpg
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f1/f4/8556810ae7a0ba59e07b0210.L.jpg
http://cine-hk.chez-alice.fr/Hkcine/IMAGESJ_L/Gweilos/stefanos-miltsakakis-invincible.jpg
http://www.rice.edu/projects/thresher/issues/84/960927/AE/MaximumRisk.gif
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/292981/292981_full.jpg
http://1.fwcdn.pl/ph/01/03/103/336116.1.jpg
http://users.atw.hu/vandamme/pix/actors/stefanos_mr.jpg
http://prisonmovies.nfshost.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bloodsport-4-2-300x173.jpg

Badass race,i doubt there is much of it in Balkan countries.
balkan borreby is different he looks scando

Dorian
04-20-2014, 03:18 PM
balkan borreby is different he looks scando

my mistake then...I onced asked someone to classify him and I think Kastrioti told me he was...

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 03:20 PM
He is CM

dralos
04-20-2014, 03:20 PM
my mistake then...I onced asked someone to classify him and I think Kastrioti told me he was...
no i would only place him in scando netherlands and northgermany nowhere else

albosomething
04-20-2014, 03:24 PM
I have a friend who is a textbook borreby


also gjakova has by far the most balkan borrebies (from what I have seen

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 03:25 PM
I think he is a prefect example of Balkan Borreby, Ramiz Lladrovci:
http://www.durreslajm.com/sites/default/files/styles/height_250/public/main/articles/ramiz%20lladrovci.jpg
http://images.botasot.info/uploads/largea_ramizi_ladrovci1364500121.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/rC7YhLJGCH0/hqdefault.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 03:43 PM
He was too:
http://oi40.tinypic.com/kbt46r.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 04:01 PM
http://i58.tinypic.com/17d8gl.jpg
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f1/f4/8556810ae7a0ba59e07b0210.L.jpg
http://cine-hk.chez-alice.fr/Hkcine/IMAGESJ_L/Gweilos/stefanos-miltsakakis-invincible.jpg
http://www.rice.edu/projects/thresher/issues/84/960927/AE/MaximumRisk.gif
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/292981/292981_full.jpg
http://1.fwcdn.pl/ph/01/03/103/336116.1.jpg
http://users.atw.hu/vandamme/pix/actors/stefanos_mr.jpg
http://prisonmovies.nfshost.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bloodsport-4-2-300x173.jpg

Badass race,i doubt there is much of it in Balkan countries.

There is quite some in certain parts of Balkans, dunno for Greece that's why I made a thread about Borreby to find out if there is any left besides Northern Albanian Alps, Montenegro or Herzegovina...

dralos
04-20-2014, 04:04 PM
I have a friend who is a textbook borreby


also gjakova has by far the most balkan borrebies (from what I have seen
i was telling that too i've been in jukes and tropoja i didn't see that many borrebies usually i saw tall dinarid types

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:03 PM
Badass race,i doubt there is much of it in Balkan countries.

Damir Avdić, Bosniak:

http://www.moonleerecords.com/images/photos/damiravdic/damir_avdic_002.jpg
http://balkanrock.com/wp-content/uploads/damir_avdic.jpg

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:09 PM
Can be found in my face. My closest match is borreby.

Insuperable
04-20-2014, 07:13 PM
Can be found in my face. My closest match is borreby.

You went through every subrace there is.xD I don't remember your face perfectly, but you could be North Pontid or Atlanto-Pontid or something like that.

dralos
04-20-2014, 07:16 PM
You went through every subrace there is.xD I don't remember your face perfectly, but you could be North Pontid or Atlanto-Pontid or something like that.
she is swarthy so nothing north about her probably pontid/baltid with eastmed influences

cally
04-20-2014, 07:16 PM
I am borreby and Alpine with Dinaro-pontid influences.

I just thought everyone should know ;)

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:17 PM
You went through every subrace there is.xD I don't remember your face perfectly, but you could be North Pontid or Atlanto-Pontid or something like that.
I measured accurately and my closest match is a sveeeeeedish borreby. I guess looks can be deceiving.

Insuperable
04-20-2014, 07:18 PM
she is swarthy so nothing north about her probably pontid/baltid with eastmed influences

Yes, Baltopontid could work. She is not swarthy to me.

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:19 PM
with eastmed influences

I actually agree with you for once.

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:19 PM
I am borreby and Alpine with Dinaro-pontid influences.

I just thought everyone should know ;)

You don't appear dinarid in the slightest...

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:20 PM
I am borreby and Alpine with Dinaro-pontid influences.

I just thought everyone should know ;)

damn, that avatar of yours looks totally like you. Quite creepy lol

dralos
04-20-2014, 07:20 PM
I actually agree with you for once.
i have a sense for you swarthies

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:21 PM
I'm a perfect (50:50) mix of Borreby and Dinaric

cally
04-20-2014, 07:22 PM
You don't appear dinarid in the slightest...

Maybe slight dinarid IDK I am totally confused I have received 100 different classifications xD but mostly pontid and alpine :)

The King, I am
04-20-2014, 07:22 PM
I'm a perfect (50:50) mix of Borreby and Dinaric

no

cally
04-20-2014, 07:23 PM
damn, that avatar of yours looks totally like you. Quite creepy lol

Does it scare you? because it should RAWRRR

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:23 PM
i have a sense for you swarthies

I've said it before that's probably why.

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 07:24 PM
Does it scare you? because it should RAWRRR

You have been classified a lot of times. You are North Pontid/ Alpinoid/CM.

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:25 PM
Maybe slight dinarid IDK I am totally confused I have received 100 different classifications xD but mostly pontid and alpine :)

Same here and we don't look anything a like...which makes me think 1) everyone on this site is blind, or 2) these classifications are about as legitimate as the 2009 Iranian elections.

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:28 PM
no

http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/1640C7374E49C5CE1481E8

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:29 PM
http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/1640C7374E49C5CE1481E8

And you think that Alba's avi is creepy.

Trun
04-20-2014, 07:31 PM
I'd say any West Balkan country, but mostly highlanders.

Borrebies are also common in Shopluk and Macedonia but still less common than the reduced gracile Gorids. My father was classified as Pontid with Borreby influence by the way.

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:31 PM
And you think that Alba's avi is creepy.

:D

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 07:31 PM
You went through every subrace there is.xD I don't remember your face perfectly, but you could be North Pontid or Atlanto-Pontid or something like that.

By mentioning Atlantid, you just made her wet. ;)

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:37 PM
By mentioning Atlantid, you just made her wet. ;)

lol. I think I am fairly intermediate between the two.

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 07:44 PM
lol. I think I am fairly intermediate between the two.

every time I see your pic, this is the first association:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z42/Morpium-CNN/Ralitsa%20Vassileva/RV19904.jpghttp://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9831/cnninternationaljuly261ec2.jpg

Ralitsa Vassileva, who is Bulgarian

cally
04-20-2014, 07:45 PM
You have been classified a lot of times. You are North Pontid/ Alpinoid/CM.

Okay I will take your word for it :)

Trun
04-20-2014, 07:46 PM
Classifymybubbles looks much more western.

cally
04-20-2014, 07:47 PM
Classifymybubbles looks much more western.

Deffo I think she is Atlanto-Pontid + Gorid

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 07:51 PM
I'd say any West Balkan country, but mostly highlanders.

Borrebies are also common in Shopluk and Macedonia but still less common than the reduced gracile Gorids. My father was classified as Pontid with Borreby influence by the way.

It would be interesting if you find personalities from those regions whom show Borreby phenotypes or even influence and post over here.. :)

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:57 PM
every time I see your pic, this is the first association:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z42/Morpium-CNN/Ralitsa%20Vassileva/RV19904.jpghttp://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9831/cnninternationaljuly261ec2.jpg

Ralitsa Vassileva, who is Bulgarian
In the second picture she looks a lot like a lot of people on my mom's side. Also I wasn't sure if you were saying I looked Bulgarian or if I was responsible for the mumbai bombings...or possibly both.

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 07:59 PM
Classifymybubbles looks much more western.

I'm really kristen stewart wearing necro pants made out of an old Turkish lady.

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:02 PM
I'm really kristen stewart wearing necro pants made out of an old Turkish lady.
nothing kristen stewart about you

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:07 PM
In the second picture she looks a lot like a lot of people on my mom's side. Also I wasn't sure if you were saying I looked Bulgarian or if I was responsible for the mumbai bombings...or possibly both.

lol

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 08:07 PM
This guy could be called a Balkan Borreby.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_50y63NAmZHo/TTI5pXfnG_I/AAAAAAAACL0/khlVpBwW1QE/s1600/MC%2BKresha%2B08.jpg
http://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000064475724-crp4om-crop.jpg?435a760
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-0/c0.136.816.543/s720x720/10007487_828621523833310_6405568066115420896_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_50y63NAmZHo/TNL-evQjd1I/AAAAAAAACDI/yFPUv8eir2s/s1600/MC+Kresha+02.jpg

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 08:08 PM
nothing kristen stewart about you

Riiiiiiiight...

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 08:08 PM
This guy could be called a Balkan Borreby.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_50y63NAmZHo/TTI5pXfnG_I/AAAAAAAACL0/khlVpBwW1QE/s1600/MC%2BKresha%2B08.jpg
http://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000064475724-crp4om-crop.jpg?435a760
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-0/c0.136.816.543/s720x720/10007487_828621523833310_6405568066115420896_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_50y63NAmZHo/TNL-evQjd1I/AAAAAAAACDI/yFPUv8eir2s/s1600/MC+Kresha+02.jpg
He can also pass as mestizo or some kind of white trash meth dealer.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 08:09 PM
He can also pass as mestizo or some kind of white trash meth dealer.

His style could but not his phenotype which is way off for mestizo.

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 08:10 PM
He style could but not his phenotype which is way off for mestizo.

Last two pictures.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 08:18 PM
Last two pictures.

Looks to you, but he ain't....His style however could be compared thou.

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:19 PM
He can also pass as mestizo or some kind of white trash meth dealer.
said the wannabe kristen stewart but actually looking like a bulgarian news reporter

armenianbodyhair
04-20-2014, 08:20 PM
said the wannabe kristen stewart but actually looking like a bulgarian news reporter

The paparazzi mistook me for her, they're paid to know what she looks like. :picard2: I never said I want to look like her, she looks like an empty cokehead.

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 08:20 PM
He can also pass as mestizo or some kind of white trash meth dealer.

Lol no, he is a rapper so he dresses like that. Here he is in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRtVUjJCeKU

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 08:23 PM
^
His personal name. https://www.google.com/search?q=Kreshnik+Fazliu&oq=kreshn&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0l4.1984j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

He fits Balkan Borreby criteria IMO, aside from non-native style.

Stefan_Dusan
04-20-2014, 08:32 PM
Lladrovci

Interesting name ;)

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:33 PM
female gjakovare borreby :p
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/1378402_544427778966815_1218757425_n.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 08:35 PM
Interesting name ;)

Yes ;) They took the name of a village as a last name, but are actually Berisha in Clan.

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:36 PM
http://www.albanianshopping.net/shop/images/nikolle-nikprelaj.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000384401223/af66dcf907fe6c5e2de4346724213fb3.jpeg

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:38 PM
http://www.albanianshopping.net/shop/images/nikolle-nikprelaj.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000384401223/af66dcf907fe6c5e2de4346724213fb3.jpeg
fucking mestizo on the second pic at his left

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:39 PM
borreby-din

http://www.strugalajm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/selami-Kolonja.jpghttp://selamikolonja.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Selami-_066.jpg

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:39 PM
fucking mestizo on the second pic at his left

skishe me ja hanger synin? Dude c'mon!

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:40 PM
skishe me ja hanger synin? Dude c'mon!
ahahahah i meant right sorry lol the marten e kisha hanger krejt :p

Trun
04-20-2014, 08:42 PM
It would be interesting if you find personalities from those regions whom show Borreby phenotypes or even influence and post over here.. :)

http://www.bgkoleda.bg/store/images/djaro.jpg
http://i.frognews.bg/images/sport/stoycho_mladenov_cska.jpg
http://www.winner.bg/analysisdb/4(42).jpg

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:43 PM
borreby-din

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5625/40791923928283523981126.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/p480x480/996675_488140724587572_1249855270_n.jpg

Kalimtari
04-20-2014, 08:43 PM
ahahahah i meant right sorry lol the marten e kisha hanger krejt :p

une kisha me i hanger te dyja

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:46 PM
gjakova borreby
[https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1392075_10201839464524408_1906391497_n.jpg

StonyArabia
04-20-2014, 08:46 PM
From what I have seen I would say Kosovar Albanians, and some Bosinaks. A lot of the Kosovar Albanians do look kinda British i guess it's the Borreby element. It's very interesting one of thing about this really, it might be related to the Celtic people in the Balkans. One of the lightest Balkanoid populations is the Kosovar Albanians based on my experience. They tend to blond and light eyed.

Trun
04-20-2014, 08:48 PM
One of the lightest Balkanoid populations is the Kosovar Albanians based on my experience. They tend to blond and light eyed.

You say it only because they are Muslims, I doubt you have seen any irl. Serbs or Bulgarians aren't darker, let alone Croats.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 08:50 PM
http://www.tekstevideo.com/img_upz/artmain_full/31.jpg
http://www.tekstevideo.com/img_upz/artpic_full/31.jpg
http://www.ks-max.com/foto/dani.jpg

Random Borreby in Montenegro.
http://podgorica.usembassy.gov/500a2.jpg
A Montenegrin artist.
http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20120903/f_gholipour20120903181121810.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:51 PM
gjakova borreby
https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/406186_212146358914110_409735123_n.jpg

StonyArabia
04-20-2014, 08:51 PM
You say it only because they are Muslims, I doubt you have seen any irl. Serbs or Bulgarians aren't darker, let alone Croats.

No, I have seen some of them, since most Albanians here are Kosovar Albanians. Yes Croats are light as well. I never said they were darker, but in general there is unified Balkan look which is shared by all groups.

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 08:57 PM
Sylejman Selimi too:
http://www.kombetare.al/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sylejman-Selimi.jpg
http://www.ereniku.net/gjeneral_sylejman_selimi_thmb.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 08:58 PM
borreby couple from gjakova
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10275301_10202896110377112_404940624688901765_o.jp g

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:02 PM
gjakova
https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/v/t1.0-9/1378720_632939816729415_1452496342_n.jpg?oh=f042a5 facc3f41f1b2a33dd0747ba7e2&oe=53D7E619

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:02 PM
Hamdi Ndrecaj:

http://filolet.com/letra_reagime/Hamdi%20Ndrecaj.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:06 PM
dinarborreby gjakova
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/426023_10200561950668815_953234025_n.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:15 PM
Xhezair Zagonjari:
http://top-channel.tv/foto/lajme/ATAK-ENDRI_tn_0.jpg
http://shtetiweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Xhezair-Zaganjori.jpg

Stefan_Dusan
04-20-2014, 09:16 PM
^^^ He looks very alpignid

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:19 PM
gjakova borreby
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/734213_512297308793492_819489150_n.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:19 PM
^^^ He looks very alpignid

Not really, he is quite big in my opinion to be Alpinid, but he does look a bit in the face.

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:26 PM
Milaim Zeka:

http://www.prishtina.com/upload/image/460x215/d1f52a7c710d9cd52137036fb67d8eca.jpg
http://sq.kurir.mk/images/2013/10/zeka-500.jpg
http://www.visit-ulcinj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/milaim-zeka1.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:26 PM
kosovalbo but from gjakova hahaha
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1957703_10203164120614364_1894145544_o.jpg

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 09:28 PM
classifymytits has typical orientalid serbian eyes... she is as western as dejan stankovich

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:29 PM
gjakovalbo
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1538773_717049548314736_1806099595_n.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:30 PM
gjakovalbo norid/borreby
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1617627_814011825281533_997635607_o.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 09:32 PM
Ex-Prime Minister of Albania in 40' - Rexhep Mitrovica....Textbook Balkan Borreby:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Rexhepmitrovica.jpg/220px-Rexhepmitrovica.jpg
http://www.albaniana.com/ndodhi/img/Rexhep%20Mitrovica.jpg
Reporter Demush Zefi...Textbook Balkan Borreby:
http://images.botasot.info/uploads/largea_demush_zefi-jpg1385050992.jpg

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:34 PM
gjakovalbo
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1000607_10200807623207597_1009308596_n.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 09:36 PM
^ Sorry but the Gracile guy got nothing do to with Borreby also some examples you've posted earlier.

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:37 PM
^ Sorry but the Gracile guy got nothing do to with Borreby also some examples you've posted earlier.
lol the one before the no rid/borreby is very tall and he does look borreby

alb0zfinest
04-20-2014, 09:38 PM
female gjakovare borreby :p
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/1378402_544427778966815_1218757425_n.jpg

She looks a bit like Luna rosa

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:38 PM
She looks a bit like Luna rosa
tiny bit

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:39 PM
Ilir Shaqiri:

http://muzika.albasoul.com/foto/IShaqiri8.jpg
http://ina-online.net/thumbnail.php?file=ilir_142269134.jpg&size=article_medium

alb0zfinest
04-20-2014, 09:39 PM
tiny bit

This Gjakovare is a bit hotter though :D

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 09:42 PM
I'd advice these Gjakova vs Drenica electronic infighting to take place somewhere, so either keep it on-topic or I'd ask MOD to delete posts which has nothing to do with the subject itself.

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:46 PM
I'd advice these Gjakova vs Drenica electronic infighting to take place somewhere, so either keep it on-topic or I'd ask MOD to delete posts which has nothing to do with the subject itself.

What fighting are you talking about? All my examples are Borreby, and I did not chose a specific region.

iNird
04-20-2014, 09:54 PM
BUMP.


Ilir Shaqiri:

http://muzika.albasoul.com/foto/IShaqiri8.jpg
http://ina-online.net/thumbnail.php?file=ilir_142269134.jpg&size=article_medium

Ilir Shapiri is I think a textbook borreby his son is more dinarid-borreby

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 09:54 PM
What fighting are you talking about? All my examples are Borreby, and I did not chose a specific region.

At least you didn't mention region likewise dralos did but interesting choices you both got, each selection you've made were from respective regions you hail, open your horizon ffs there is alot Borrebies from other places too. ;)

dralos
04-20-2014, 09:56 PM
At least you didn't mention region likewise dralos did but interesting choices you both got, each selection you've made were from respective regions you hail, open your horizon ffs there is alot Borrebies from other places too. ;)
true but i've no idea where to look them since i don't have many friends from other regions :p

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 09:57 PM
At least you didn't mention region likewise dralos did but interesting choices you both got, each selection you've made were from respective regions you hail, open your horizon ffs there is alot Borrebies from other places too. ;)

Only three of my examples were from Drenica, Ilir Shaqiri, Remzi Lladrovci and Milaim Zeka.

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 09:58 PM
Ilir Shaqiri is Gorid, not Balkan borreby.

I will give you the names than you go and find pictures on internet.

Pleurat Sejdiu
Nikoll Nikprelaj
Adem Jashari
Bledar Laco
The chief of Kosovo Security Forces
Arben Bajraktaraj
James Biberaj
Arben Gjeloshi

( btw, the 3 last ones are Tropojans ;) )

Stefan_Dusan
04-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Ramush is Dinaro-Borreby and is very common Albanian look (Kurt looks less dinarid version of him)

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/bllvOPx_-ng/maxresdefault.jpg

KrashNick
04-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Visar Peja

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/P3f7_56vsnQ/maxresdefault.jpg?feature=og
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mx6BEDoUJ6k/0.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Ilir Shaqiri is Gorid, not Balkan borreby.

I will give you the names than you go and find pictures on internet.

Pleurat Sejdiu
Nikoll Nikprelaj
Adem Jashari
Bledar Laco
The chief of Kosovo Security Forces
Arben Bajraktaraj
James Biberaj
Arben Gjeloshi

( btw, the 3 last ones are Tropojans ;) )

Out of all mention names, Adem Jashari was closest what you'd call a classic Balkan Borreby example. :)

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 10:02 PM
Ilir Shaqiri is Gorid, not Balkan borreby.

I will give you the names than you go and find pictures on internet.

Pleurat Sejdiu
Nikoll Nikprelaj
Adem Jashari
Bledar Laco
The chief of Kosovo Security Forces
Arben Bajraktaraj
James Biberaj
Arben Gjeloshi

( btw, the 3 last ones are Tropojans ;) )
He might not be Balkan Borreby (which is mostly blend of Dinarid with Borreby proper), but he is not Gorid, but Borreby.

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:07 PM
Out of all mention names, Adem Jashari was closest what you'd call a classic Balkan Borreby example. :)

No, the closest are Nikoll Nikprelaj, Arben Gjeloshi ( he is 189 cm and 130 kg) and The Chief.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:10 PM
No, the closest are Nikoll Nikprelaj, Arben Gjeloshi ( he is 189 cm and 130 kg) and The Chief.

Arben Gjeloshi looks really Uber therefore Borreby, however IMO Nikprelaj doesn't strike me as classic example for Borreby tbh.

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:10 PM
Ilir shaqiri is not borreby at all, he is gorid.

albosomething
04-20-2014, 10:11 PM
..

cally
04-20-2014, 10:14 PM
Hamdi Ndrecaj:

http://filolet.com/letra_reagime/Hamdi%20Ndrecaj.jpg
V. Good example :)

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:15 PM
@ najkihh Not really.

albosomething
04-20-2014, 10:17 PM
@ najkihh Not really.

how would you classify him

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 10:17 PM
Ukshin Hoti:

http://www.kosovaelire.com/portrete/U.%20Hoti/Ukshin_Hoti_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/e/e5/Ukshin_hoti.jpg

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:21 PM
how would you classify him

Gorid mostly.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:22 PM
Ukshin Hoti:

http://www.kosovaelire.com/portrete/U.%20Hoti/Ukshin_Hoti_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/e/e5/Ukshin_hoti.jpg

Great example. :)

albosomething
04-20-2014, 10:23 PM
ukshin hoti :')

one of my all time favorite persons

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 10:24 PM
ukshin hoti :')

one of my all time favorite persons

Mine too, a great man he was indeed!

albosomething
04-20-2014, 10:26 PM
Mine too, a great man he was indeed!

finally a thing we both agree on

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:28 PM
ukshin hoti :')

one of my all time favorite persons

Indeed, a true patriot. :)

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:30 PM
kosovalbo but from gjakova hahaha
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1957703_10203164120614364_1894145544_o.jpg

This guy look chechen or caucasus, or turkish, nothing balkan borreby in him, probably a turk of gjakova

dralos
04-20-2014, 10:35 PM
This guy look chechen or caucasus, or turkish, nothing balkan borreby in him, probably a turk of gjakova
lol he is extremely tall and nothing chechen about him lol

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:36 PM
Visar Peja and Hamdi Ndrecaj are 2 of the best examples.

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 10:37 PM
How about this guy?

http://www.zhurnal.mk/data/news/shaqircervadiku.jpg

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:38 PM
lol he is extremely tall and nothing chechen about him lol

Do you want me to find a 215 cm tall Sudanid?

He looks turkish/cacasus, nothing balkan borreby, a subhuman who must be sent to turkey or smelted.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-20-2014, 10:42 PM
How about this guy?

http://www.zhurnal.mk/data/news/shaqircervadiku.jpg

Lack robustness, more of soft rounded face rather a rough squared phenotype of a Borreby....Hence textbook Alpinid.

Kastrioti1443
04-20-2014, 10:44 PM
How about this guy?

http://www.zhurnal.mk/data/news/shaqircervadiku.jpg

A very good example, a bit reduced, but still ok.

albosomething
04-20-2014, 10:48 PM
my gf may be a bit ballkan borreby

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 10:50 PM
I posted them before, but I think both are good examples, except the one on the right is more on the Dinarid side:
http://images.botasot.info/uploads/largea_rapsodet1389131336.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 11:06 PM
Azem Hajdari?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Azem_Hajdari.jpg
http://img.youtube.com/vi/CwSermg4_EQ/mqdefault.jpg

Skerdilaid
04-20-2014, 11:38 PM
Bazaj:

http://www.radioprojekt.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Naim-Bazaj1.jpg

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/uZvXQ2u5QUg/maxresdefault.jpg

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 02:50 AM
also gjakova has by far the most balkan borrebies (from what I have seen

I think Ulqinaks and the Albanians of Montenegro are the most Balkan Borreby then Gjakovars.

alb0zfinest
04-21-2014, 02:52 AM
I think Ulqinaks and the Albanians of Montenegro are the most Balkan Borreby then Gjakovars.

Lol, from what i know ulqinaks are albanians of montenegro as well....

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 02:54 AM
Lol, from what i know ulqinaks are albanians of montenegro as well....

I mean Ulqinaks and the Albanians from Montenegro in general.

alb0zfinest
04-21-2014, 02:55 AM
I mean Ulqinaks and the Albanians from Montenegro in general.

I know lol but you put them in different categories as if they aren't Albanians of montenegro. Anyways I know what you mean.

iNird
04-21-2014, 02:55 AM
Ulqinaks are like the real Shkodran. The other Shkodrans are like the malesors, intruders from the mountains.

#NOWuKNOW

:D

alb0zfinest
04-21-2014, 02:57 AM
Ulqinaks are like the real Shkodran. The other Shkodrans are like the malesors, intruders from the mountains.

#NOWuKNOW

:D

Lol wtf.

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 03:08 AM
I think Ulqinaks and the Albanians of Montenegro are the most Balkan Borreby then Gjakovars.

I don't think so, regions in Central Kosova where I come from are mostly pred Borreby-Dinarid

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 03:10 AM
Ujku, do you agree with Kastro in Ilir Shaqiri?:D

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 03:21 AM
I don't think so, regions in Central Kosova where I come from are mostly pred Borreby-Dinarid

I still think the Borreby type is the strongest in Montenegro though. Among slavic and Albanian speakers.


Ujku, do you agree with Kastro in Ilir Shaqiri?:D

I don't think he is Gorid. I think he is pretty much a textbook Borreby albeit DInaricized. Eyes,expression,possibly crania too. It could be hard to find a Balkan type that's not Dinaricized at all. Also many of the examples here don't have Borreby noses.

iNird
04-21-2014, 03:24 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Ylq-aNjUr0/T_COLPrGxBI/AAAAAAAAEWI/0P3cAGwVqes/s1600/%255B07_01_12%255D%255B13_50_54%255D%255BMaxthon%2 BShot%255D.jpg

where did the rest of the back of his head go? lulzjpjp

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TWxoqxkEmkc/ScfdyUsldzI/AAAAAAAAAGg/YVkqH7OuGLU/S1600-R/n562058452_1335486_9997.jpg

http://www.tekstevideo.com/img_upz/artpic_full/26067.jpg

textbook dinarid-borreby

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 03:30 AM
I still think the Borreby type is the strongest in Montenegro though. Among slavic and Albanian speakers.



I don't think he is Gorid. I think he is pretty much a textbook Borreby albeit DInaricized. Eyes,expression,possibly crania too. It could be hard to find a Balkan type that's not Dinaricized at all. Also many of the examples here don't have Borreby noses.

Well to my understanding, Balkan Borreby is actually a Borreby-Dinarid, so sometimes they show more Dinarid features in the face but their body build shows that they are CM's.

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 03:32 AM
Well to my understanding, Balkan Borreby is actually a Borreby-Dinarid, so sometimes they show more Dinarid features in the face but their body build shows that they are CM's.

The Borreby type was found in the Balkans later. It was originally thought to be just a Northern,Central Euro type which is why the word Balkan was placed in front of it, not necessarily because of a difference in looks.

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 03:35 AM
The Borreby type was found in the Balkans later. It was originally thought to be just a Northern,Central Euro type which is why the word Balkan was placed in front of it, not necessarily because of a difference in looks.

So which examples that I posted would you say are the best examples?

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 03:39 AM
So which examples that I posted would you say are the best examples?

I think Ilir Shaqiri. I think you would agree with me here.

I can post 2 of my relatives here who are about as Borreby as you can get but don't want to post without their permission and I don't want to ask them lol. Although they too are Dinaricized with Nordid influences. Their heads are humongous. They look like huge asteroids.

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 03:42 AM
I think Ilir Shaqiri. I think you would agree with me here.

I can post 2 of my relatives here who are about as Borreby as you can get but don't want to post without their permission and I don't want to ask them lol. Although they too are Dinaricized with Nordid influences. Their heads are humongous. They look like huge asteroids.

In my opinion I think the best examples are Ndrekaj and Ukshin Hoti. Ilir is Borreby but reduced a bit I think. Most of my cousins and family are Borreby-Dinarid, and few look like Ukshin Hoti but a lot taller, like 2m mark.

ChocolateFace
04-21-2014, 03:46 AM
In my opinion I think the best examples are Ndrekaj and Ukshin Hoti. Ilir is Borreby but reduced a bit I think. Most of my cousins and family are Borreby-Dinarid, and few look like Ukshin Hoti but a lot taller, like 2m mark.

I don't think Ukshin is the best example. He shows other components. Dinaric,Med.

Skerdilaid
04-21-2014, 04:45 AM
From Drenica:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/25rdn5c.jpg

Trun
04-21-2014, 06:08 AM
Georgi Purvanov, former President.

http://www.bulgaria-news.bg/explorer/articles/article11911/original.JPG
http://bezpartien.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/55.jpg

Trifon Ivanov, former footballer, Norid/Borreby.

http://images.ibox.bg/2009/03/02/ivanov/460x374.jpg
http://img.bg.sof.cmestatic.com/media/images/660x375/Sep2012/61008307.jpg
http://fakti.bg/img/news2012/32838/2a40f9cbe1bbdbccb93fec8b45eb941a_big.jpg

pelikarski
04-21-2014, 07:08 AM
Parvanov is Dinaric I think.
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armenianbodyhair
04-21-2014, 07:37 AM
Georgi Purvanov, former President.

http://www.bulgaria-news.bg/explorer/articles/article11911/original.JPG
http://bezpartien.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/55.jpg
Noric

Trifon Ivanov, former footballer, Norid/Borreby.

http://images.ibox.bg/2009/03/02/ivanov/460x374.jpg
http://img.bg.sof.cmestatic.com/media/images/660x375/Sep2012/61008307.jpg
http://fakti.bg/img/news2012/32838/2a40f9cbe1bbdbccb93fec8b45eb941a_big.jpg
Warewolf.

Skerdilaid
05-03-2014, 01:36 PM
Naim Lushi

http://www.epokaere.com/Articles/6/26547/Images/656X37326547naim_Lushi.JPG

Faklon
05-03-2014, 04:53 PM
http://oi61.tinypic.com/317e0k8.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/r1n285.jpg

Kastrioti1443
05-03-2014, 05:18 PM
Naim Lushi, a very good example.

Now some examples from Laberia Highlands, Southwestern Albania. some might be pan european Borrebies, some might have other inlufences.
http://www.albanianphotos.net/images/photos/thumbnails/LABERIA_600x0_w_3aa3bb71cc4c285a6d9f63cfdc763fdc.j pg


Stefan Cipa:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6V6iDaR43yU/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABE/eoKHwxyxzWo/photo.jpg
http://www.shqiptarja.com/foto/87170_1.jpg
http://www.gazetarepublika.al/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Kryetari-i-bashkise-Stefan-Cipa-duke-takuar-Presidenten-e-Aluflor-Florentia-Erjola-Xheko1.jpg



Gramoz Ruci:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/a/a6/Gramoz-ruci.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/9/91/Gramoz_Ruçi.JPG







Geri Cipi:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5716/gericipijp8.jpg
http://www.panorama-sport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Geri-Cipi.jpg

Auron Tare:
http://www.abcnews.al/uploads/AURON%20TARE.jpg
http://gazetadita.al/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/auroniiiiiiiiiiii.jpg


Arben Malaj:
http://www.kombetare.al/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Arben-Malaj.jpg
http://www.gazetatema.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/malaj.jpg


Maja Alicka:
http://www.tekstevideo.com/img_upz/artpic_full/995.jpg
http://albaniancelebrities.weebly.com/uploads/2/0/2/4/2024834/1839261_orig.jpg


Fredo Berberi:
http://gazeta-shqip.com/lajme/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Shperthimi-makina-Vlore-Fredo-Berberi-6-214x320.jpg
http://www.shqiptarja.com/upload/gallery/113262.jpg



Artan Gaci:
http://gazeta-shqip.com/lajme/wp-content/themes/gazeta-e-re/timthumb.php?src=http://gazeta-shqip.com/lajme/wp-content/uploads/Artan-Gaci1.jpg&q=90&w=619&zc=1
http://www.gazetarepublika.al/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/artan-gaci.jpg

Kalimtari
05-03-2014, 05:49 PM
From Drenica:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/25rdn5c.jpg

Sven, sorry dude, but... :P

Skerdilaid
05-03-2014, 07:24 PM
Sven, sorry dude, but... :P

Sven is gracile Med compare to this giant CM.

Dorian
05-03-2014, 07:30 PM
While I was searching and reading today about Sarakatsanis, I saw this comment on zetaboards
"Though they're not strictly 'pure' they're the closest living population to the Cro-Magnon of the Paleolithic Dordogne and in Angel's system they'd be predominantly C3 Alpines."

=( C3 is the Upper Paleolithic to Mesolithic form (cf. Borreby).

Trun
05-03-2014, 07:32 PM
Sven is gracile Med compare to this giant CM.

Sven is more aesthetic.

Black Wolf
05-03-2014, 07:33 PM
Former NHL star Tie Domi is a good example of a Balkan Borreby I think.

dralos
05-03-2014, 07:36 PM
Former NHL star Tie Domi is a good example of a Balkan Borreby I think.
very true jax
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBuvVUIGQGiFlAdoXFWCLwQEDU9h9HS Z7PJo_CnbqsigpyXn-G

Skerdilaid
05-03-2014, 07:37 PM
Sven is more aesthetic.

Whatever floats your boat, faggot.

Dorian
05-03-2014, 07:49 PM
I think I still can not recognise borrebies but I'll give it a try!

http://www.toxrima.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/lagos1.jpg
http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-04/25-6-thumb-large.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3WbLgsUHKqw/UBai3zPxIUI/AAAAAAAAKoY/_drimCdpX7k/s1600/%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%AE%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%82+% CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%8A%CF%89%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE %BD%CE%BF%CF%85.jpg
http://www.e-orfeas.gr/images/stories/articles/old_cd_reviews/poulopoulos_agapame_3.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6wT0nCJiUGM/UW0S9osVjbI/AAAAAAAAQCM/zUbcj9OK68U/s1600/&+%CE%94%CE%97%CE%9C%CE%9F%CE%A3+%CE%9C%CE%9F%CE%A5 %CE%A4%CE%A3%CE%97%CE%A3+%CE%9D%CE%B1+INTERNET.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/l2jw0hnab/image.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/7hxpf3wv7/image.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/kjesr7vvn/bba.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/h17e8kkdf/bbad.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/fi7epuof7/bbkl.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/jdassf7kz/image.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/klyoe1zj7/bre.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/mnukek84j/brjk.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/i61gdy6ub/g7a_bmp.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/nu35r3lsz/kars.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/lmyx36gir/image.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/6i2t5nsbn/sar.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/w5ubeltsz/sas.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/9ijnm73mr/image.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/83dhjqd5v/tzoumk.jpg

Skerdilaid
05-03-2014, 07:57 PM
Few are, but some of them are Baltids, Dinarid-Alpines, and other blends.^

Dorian
05-03-2014, 07:58 PM
http://s11.postimg.org/hk7w43meb/28142_369657606482729_1320510946_n.jpg

Faklon
05-03-2014, 08:03 PM
http://www.ziogasoe.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/z168b.jpg

Dorian
05-03-2014, 08:12 PM
Few are, but some of them are Baltids, Dinarid-Alpines, and other blends.^

who are not?to delete them?

HellLander87
05-03-2014, 08:14 PM
http://s27.postimg.org/lz5cs5wf7/y7f_St_SP.jpg
Is he a Borreby?

Skerdilaid
05-03-2014, 08:19 PM
http://i1.ytimg.com/i/6wmK7hFaKfeIwvk8Q-rdyA/mq1.jpg?v=c37edd

Tomorr
05-03-2014, 08:59 PM
I think I might be a borreby or alpinid or cm?

Black Wolf
05-03-2014, 09:28 PM
very true jax
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBuvVUIGQGiFlAdoXFWCLwQEDU9h9HS Z7PJo_CnbqsigpyXn-G

I always liked Domi...Tough bastard he was/is. :D

Dorian
06-03-2014, 07:22 PM
what about this dawg?
http://www.sport24.gr/Sports/Stivos/article1194721.ece/BINARY/w620/754179.jpg
http://www.stivosnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Stamatogiannis.jpg
http://www.pelop.gr/temp/CACHE_650X650_1_191236.JPG
http://www.stivosnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/az_sef_00871.jpg