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Psychonaut
01-07-2009, 05:59 AM
I'm interested in compiling a collection of charts of the Nine Worlds. If you have any quality graphics, please post them here.

http://www.immortalthor.net/map-nineworlds.jpg

http://aerith21.unblog.fr/files/2006/10/yggdrasil.jpg

http://www.mondo-libero.com/yggdrasil.jpg

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/boe/img/fig045.jpg

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/img/02800.jpg

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Barreldriver
03-19-2009, 04:27 AM
I like that first one and each of the worlds seems to match with a property of our own earth and solar system.

Midgard = Earth obviously

Murcury = Muspelheim

The asteroid Belt = Jotunheim

The ring around Earth = the Earth Serpent

Niffleheim = Neptune(icy cold) or Neptunes moon Triton(The coldest place in the solar system if I'm not mistaken).

Hel = Mars (mars is literally a dead land)

Svartalfheim = Pluto(Pluto being the darkest planet, Svartalfheim being home of the Dark Elves, Pluto also being the strangest planet, and Dark Elves being perhaps the most strange and misunderstood beings in the mythos)

I would say that Asgaard would be Jupiter, Jupiter being the God of Planets, having tumultuous storms(perhaps the eye of Jupiter is Þrúðheimr) granted we cannot live on any of these worlds in our human form(hint human form, perhaps we can once we separate from our human bodies?!?!) and mabye the Aurora being bifrost would allow those souls on Earth worthy to travel to Asgaard/Jupiter during it's cycle(hence why we have ghosts and such/souls that haven't passed on, maybe because the next cycle hasn't come yet?) basically once the solar wind passes over Earth, it collects those souls and drops them off to their fated end point, the Valkyries being the exception, perhaps the Valkyries collect the honorable slain on Earth and hold them until the Aurora and take them to Valhalla during the Aurora? We don't know for sure, since the myths themselves are debatable.

and so on and so forth, I know there's more to cover but I'm spent it's after midnight lol.


and I'd say Yggdrasil is the solar system patterns that hold the solar system together, sort of the systems gravety pull.

Baron Samedi
03-19-2009, 04:54 AM
This may not be the place for this, but it just occurred to me...

Have there ever been any Yggdrasil/Qabalah/Qlippoth connotations before?

Psychonaut
03-19-2009, 05:13 AM
This may not be the place for this, but it just occurred to me...

Have there ever been any Yggdrasil/Qabalah/Qlippoth connotations before?

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg

...yes, there have been misguided attempts. There are vague correspondences, but in many of the important and specific areas the differences are irreconcilable.

Broadly speaking, a 777-esque chart might look something like this:

0. Ain/Ain Soph/Ain Soph Aur - Ginnungagap
1. Kether -
2. Chokmah - Muspellsheim
3. Binah - Niflheim
4. Chesed - Asgard
5. Geburah - Jotunheim
6. Tiphereth - Ljossalfheim
7. Netzach - Vanaheim
8. Hod -
9. Yesod - Svartalfheim
10. Malkuth - Midgard

The paths that connect the Sephira would be somewhat analogous to the Bifrost.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Ktreewnames.png/192px-Ktreewnames.png

Now, that being said, the correspondences don't really match up all that well, particularly since the Qabalistic cosmology doesn not take into account the primal and omnipresent role of the Chaos that surrounds and is imbued in everything. Theirs is a system that is fundamentally based on the ordered creation of one God, whereas ours is the natural and temporary order that arises from the interactions of different types of Chaos.

Baron Samedi
03-19-2009, 07:17 AM
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg

...yes, there have been misguided attempts. There are vague correspondences, but in many of the important and specific areas the differences are irreconcilable.

Broadly speaking, a 777-esque chart might look something like this:

0. Ain/Ain Soph/Ain Soph Aur - Ginnungagap
1. Kether -
2. Chokmah - Muspellsheim
3. Binah - Niflheim
4. Chesed - Asgard
5. Geburah - Jotunheim
6. Tiphereth - Ljossalfheim
7. Netzach - Vanaheim
8. Hod -
9. Yesod - Svartalfheim
10. Malkuth - Midgard

The paths that connect the Sephira would be somewhat analogous to the Bifrost.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Ktreewnames.png/192px-Ktreewnames.png

Now, that being said, the correspondences don't really match up all that well, particularly since the Qabalistic cosmology doesn not take into account the primal and omnipresent role of the Chaos that surrounds and is imbued in everything. Theirs is a system that is fundamentally based on the ordered creation of one God, whereas ours is the natural and temporary order that arises from the interactions of different types of Chaos.

It's was just a question, mate.... No need for facepalm.jpg....

Psychonaut
03-19-2009, 07:20 AM
It's was just a question, mate.... No need for facepalm.jpg....

http://kevinchiu.org/emote/facepalm.jpg

Baron Samedi
03-19-2009, 07:22 AM
And for some reason, it's always Picard....

You would never see James T. Kirk do that!

Psychonaut
03-19-2009, 07:25 AM
And for some reason, it's always Picard....

You would never see James T. Kirk do that!

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/JagsFanMatt-DoubleFacepalmRickerPicard.jpg

Baron Samedi
03-19-2009, 07:27 AM
Number Two was a lam-o, and you know it.

Hildolf
03-19-2009, 01:22 PM
This may not be the place for this, but it just occurred to me...

Have there ever been any Yggdrasil/Qabalah/Qlippoth connotations before?

Not something I've looked too much into but didn't Jonhannes Bureus(1568-1652) Mix the runes and cabbalah? I know Flowers and a Swedish chap called Thomas Karlsson(nightside of the runes) have written about Him and His system.

http://www.gangleri.nl/articles/45/johannes-bureus-the-renaissance-rune-magician

Baron Samedi
03-19-2009, 02:47 PM
Not something I've looked too much into but didn't Jonhannes Bureus(1568-1652) Mix the runes and cabbalah? I know Flowers and a Swedish chap called Thomas Karlsson(nightside of the runes) have written about Him and His system.

http://www.gangleri.nl/articles/45/johannes-bureus-the-renaissance-rune-magician

Yes, Karlsson's group is called the Dragon Rouge, and they deal in the "Uthark" as opposed to the "Furthark"

And they just fucked me over recently.... Paypal claim time!