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Radojica
01-07-2010, 10:32 AM
To all Orthodox Christians on this forum, i wish to have wonderful the happiest of all Christian holidays, Christmas. I wish you to all of you great family time full of joy, happiness, love and family prosperity. To enjoy in this day and to remember that with power of faith everything is possible!! Mir Boziji, Hristos se rodi :)


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Monolith
01-07-2010, 11:16 AM
Merry Chrismas to all Orthodox Christians, Hристос се роди! :)

Svarog
01-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Ваистину се Роди
Срећан Божић свима који славе :)

December
01-07-2010, 04:26 PM
When I was a kid, the days immediately after Christmas were sad because the day had passed so quickly and all the joy seemed to have ended. Funny thing, knowing that some people in other parts of the world were celebrating Christmas after us used to give me a sensation of comfort, it felt like the joy had still not ended and cold January seemed a little less cold.

Христос се роди и срећна Нова година.

Gooding
01-07-2010, 04:40 PM
Merry Christmas, Orthodox Christians! Polit Nadal e Bona Annada!:):thumb001:

poiuytrewq0987
01-08-2010, 01:33 AM
Merry Christmas, Orthodox Christians! Parti Nadal e Bona Annada!:):thumb001:

Merry Christmas to you too. :wavey001:

Arrow Cross
01-08-2010, 01:38 AM
It's great to see the number of Christians - of any denomination - growing on this forum. Blessed Christmas to our Orthodox siblings in Christ!

Jamt
01-08-2010, 01:41 AM
It's great to see the number of Christians - of any denomination - growing on this forum. Blessed Christmas to our Orthodox siblings in Christ!

A big hm...

Arrow Cross
01-08-2010, 01:49 AM
A big hm...
What? What is there to hmm about on a forum where atheists, pagans and free-range magicians run rampant? :p

Grumpy Cat
01-08-2010, 01:56 AM
So I have to ask this stupid question... do Orthodox Christians do all their Christmas shopping during the Boxing Week sales??? Shit, I would!

poiuytrewq0987
01-08-2010, 02:19 AM
So I have to ask this stupid question... do Orthodox Christians do all their Christmas shopping during the Boxing Week sales??? Shit, I would!

I buy presents a month before Christmas takes place... I hate taking part of the Christmas rush, you get to see a ton of people run around, long lines, it's so annoying.

Grumpy Cat
01-08-2010, 02:56 AM
I buy presents a month before Christmas takes place... I hate taking part of the Christmas rush, you get to see a ton of people run around, long lines, it's so annoying.

I actually do that too. But if I was an Orthodox Christian living in a Western country, I would totally be shopping the week after the Western Christmas when everything is cheap.

I just learned this today, actually, that Orthodox Christians use the Julian calendar and that's why X-mas falls later as today is Dec 25th on the Julian calendar (I'm a computer programmer, I should have picked up on that considering much computation also uses the Julian calendar). I found that interesting, because I thought the Julian calendar was only still used in the computer field.

So how, other than the date, does Orthodox Christmas differ from Christmas in Western Christianity? Are there different traditions or are they pretty much the same?

BTW. Merry Christmas.

poiuytrewq0987
01-08-2010, 03:46 AM
I actually do that too. But if I was an Orthodox Christian living in a Western country, I would totally be shopping the week after the Western Christmas when everything is cheap.

I just learned this today, actually, that Orthodox Christians use the Julian calendar and that's why X-mas falls later as today is Dec 25th on the Julian calendar (I'm a computer programmer, I should have picked up on that considering much computation also uses the Julian calendar). I found that interesting, because I thought the Julian calendar was only still used in the computer field.

So how, other than the date, does Orthodox Christmas differ from Christmas in Western Christianity? Are there different traditions or are they pretty much the same?

BTW. Merry Christmas.

I can't really comment on specific traditions since I'm not an expert on religion but I can say we tend to be a bit more religious and a lot more emphasis is placed on Christmas. Whereas in the West, Christmas is just an excuse to go on a shopping spree. Of course not all of them use Christmas as an excuse to go on a shopping spree but the mainstream does.

Grumpy Cat
01-08-2010, 03:56 AM
I can't really comment on specific traditions since I'm not an expert on religion but I can say we tend to be a bit more religious and a lot more emphasis is placed on Christmas. Whereas in the West, Christmas is just an excuse to go on a shopping spree. Of course not all of them use Christmas as an excuse to go on a shopping spree but the mainstream does.

I think that's a misconception, though. Sure, we buy gifts for our friends and family, but it's really more about spending time with family. I'm Asatru, I observe Yule, but my family is Catholic and celebrates Christmas... and it's really more of a family affair. The standard fare, though, where I am from is a meal with family followed by midnight mass on the 24th, opening gifts on the morning of the 25th, a meal with family again that night, and then on the 26th, a bar opens in my neighbourhood and all the 20-somethings in the community around get together there for drinks and to catch up. Americans, though, they shop all out... from the day after Thanksgiving (Black Friday) until Christmas Eve. But they get some family time in too.

Svarog
01-08-2010, 06:18 AM
So how, other than the date, does Orthodox Christmas differ from Christmas in Western Christianity? Are there different traditions or are they pretty much the same?

The main difference is that here Christmas is just a religious holiday while in western world Christmas is celebrated by everyone and not just very religious people. Western Christmas is something like our new years; at least in my home, we'd receive gifts for the new years, open them in the morning, spend time with family and usually have huge new years dinner for the entire family (cousins, relatives etc) while on Christmas it would be lighting the candle, have quiet evening only short members of the family included; we would not receive any gifts on Christmas, beside, in the Christmas bread (must be home made) my mother would put a dukat (a real gold coin) and we'd break the bread randomly and one member of the family would get it, that's a small tradition; My Catholic friend invites me at his house every Christmas to spend it with them and they have other guests, Orthodox people don't do that, you don't invite anyone in your house for Christmas, so that's another difference. Barely anyone even leaves the house here.

But that is the huge difference, you'd feel the atmosphere, there is no euphoria, no Christmas songs etc it's just a religious holiday and really, not many non-religious people don't give a damn about xmas while in the west it's holiday for everyone whenever you are religious or not. Like for me, Christmas is just as any other day, but my mother cares about it so I pretend too.

Also, you don't tell Orthodox people Marry Christmas but Christ was born, then there is a reply he/she would say to you but I have no clue how I'd translate that :shy:

Svarog
01-08-2010, 06:33 AM
I believe Christmas eve would be different too, I am not sure how it is with Catholics but here, tradition is to get up at 5am and go into the forest to get your badnjak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak), food is usually containing only potato salad, fish and beans; in the evening, fire is set, usually big ones, we make one in our neighborhood so everyone comes there, burn your badnjak, I usually spend time with neighbors until midnight and then go home but tradition is to go to the church at midnight on the liturgy and be there for an early Christmas

Worth mentioning that burning of badnjak and setting fires is an actual Slavic pre-Christian tradition, Serbs are among most 'pagan' people in Europe, there are so many pagan rituals in Christianity that people are not even aware of, that's why I find it a bit funny being called Orthodox (true) Christians when half of the customs are actually Slavic old religion customs that Christians never managed to get rid of in people.

Monolith
01-08-2010, 10:58 AM
The standard fare, though, where I am from is a meal with family followed by midnight mass on the 24th, opening gifts on the morning of the 25th, a meal with family again that night, and then on the 26th, a bar opens in my neighbourhood and all the 20-somethings in the community around get together there for drinks and to catch up.
It's pretty much the same here in Croatia.


Worth mentioning that burning of badnjak and setting fires is an actual Slavic pre-Christian tradition, Serbs are among most 'pagan' people in Europe, there are so many pagan rituals in Christianity that people are not even aware of, that's why I find it a bit funny being called Orthodox (true) Christians when half of the customs are actually Slavic old religion customs that Christians never managed to get rid of in people.
Actually, they never even tried to get rid of those customs. They were simply incorporated into Christendom, along with all the important gods of Slavic pantheon. This particular custom of burning badnjak is also present here, though confined to remote parts of the country.

Svarog
01-08-2010, 02:14 PM
Actually, they never even tried to get rid of those customs. They were simply incorporated into Christendom, along with all the important gods of Slavic pantheon. This particular custom of burning badnjak is also present here, though confined to remote parts of the country.

Yes they did, after they failed they renamed old Slavic Gods into Christian saints, thus far Serbs are pretty much the only ones to have 'slavas' the way we do, there were cases where people who rejected to give up or convert their believes were tortured and killed

Interesting read about this is Veselin Čajkanović's Old Slavic customs and religion.

Monolith
01-08-2010, 02:48 PM
Yes they did, after they failed they renamed old Slavic Gods into Christian saints, thus far Serbs are pretty much the only ones to have 'slavas' the way we do, there were cases where people who rejected to give up or convert their believes were tortured and killed

That was done almost simultaneously with the baptism of south Slavs, who often regarded their baptism as a means of foreign political domination. Interestingly enough, this phenomenon is present in virtually all south Slavic regions, some of which are staunchly Christian.

Anthropos
01-08-2010, 02:56 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=120&pictureid=962

GOD JUL!

:smilie_flagge12:

Aemma
01-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Happy belated Christmas to our Orthodox Christian friends. :)

Actually, when I was Roman Catholic, Christmas would not be over for me until the feast of the Epiphany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)) which usually coincides with Orthodox Christmas. :xmastree

The Lawspeaker
01-08-2010, 03:11 PM
Mir Boziji, Hristos se rodi. Merry Christmas. :)

Loki
01-08-2010, 06:04 PM
A belated Happy Orthodox Christmas to all Eastern Christians! :)

http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/uploads/images/p11_Russian%20Orthodox%20Christmas%231%23.jpg

Amapola
01-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Happy Orthodox Christmas!

Grumpy Cat
01-08-2010, 08:59 PM
The main difference is that here Christmas is just a religious holiday while in western world Christmas is celebrated by everyone and not just very religious people. Western Christmas is something like our new years; at least in my home, we'd receive gifts for the new years, open them in the morning, spend time with family and usually have huge new years dinner for the entire family (cousins, relatives etc) while on Christmas it would be lighting the candle, have quiet evening only short members of the family included; we would not receive any gifts on Christmas, beside, in the Christmas bread (must be home made) my mother would put a dukat (a real gold coin) and we'd break the bread randomly and one member of the family would get it, that's a small tradition; My Catholic friend invites me at his house every Christmas to spend it with them and they have other guests, Orthodox people don't do that, you don't invite anyone in your house for Christmas, so that's another difference. Barely anyone even leaves the house here.

But that is the huge difference, you'd feel the atmosphere, there is no euphoria, no Christmas songs etc it's just a religious holiday and really, not many non-religious people don't give a damn about xmas while in the west it's holiday for everyone whenever you are religious or not. Like for me, Christmas is just as any other day, but my mother cares about it so I pretend too.

Also, you don't tell Orthodox people Marry Christmas but Christ was born, then there is a reply he/she would say to you but I have no clue how I'd translate that :shy:

So it's kind of like Easter in the West... really only observed by the religious folks. Well, it's two days day off work (Good Friday and Easter Monday), but for me it's just two days to sleep in, I don't do anything.

Aemma
01-08-2010, 09:10 PM
A wee gift for you all!

"Christmas Eve Sarajevo" by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra

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Lenny
01-10-2010, 03:08 AM
My best wishes to all Orthodox Christians in your Christmastime.

Osweo
01-10-2010, 11:18 AM
С Прошедщим Праздником, дорогие Друзья! :cheers:


Also, you don't tell Orthodox people Marry Christmas but Christ was born, then there is a reply he/she would say to you but I have no clue how I'd translate that :shy:
Vo istinu voskrese? Something like 'Indeed He is risen', I suppose. :)

Serbs are pretty much the only ones to have 'slavas' the way we do,
Curious, what's this about?

Interestingly enough, this phenomenon is present in virtually all south Slavic regions, some of which are staunchly Christian.
There are some instances of this in Germandom (I tried to start a discussion on it in Skadi, but nobody was interested :shrug:), but Ireland has the most blatant examples, especially the cult of Brigit. She is none other than the ancient Goddess Brigantia, and invocations of her as though flying over the armies of the Province of Leinster are identical with ideas of how the old War Goddesses were viewed in the Good Old Days. :thumbs up

Monolith
01-10-2010, 11:46 AM
Vo istinu voskrese? Something like 'Indeed He is risen', I suppose. :)
It's "Vaistinu se rodi" in Serbian, and "Navistina se rodi" in Macedonian. It means "Verily, He has been born".


Curious, what's this about?
I think this wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava) sums it up pretty well, though our Serbian members might know more.


There are some instances of this in Germandom (I tried to start a discussion on it in Skadi, but nobody was interested :shrug:), but Ireland has the most blatant examples, especially the cult of Brigit. She is none other than the ancient Goddess Brigantia, and invocations of her as though flying over the armies of the Province of Leinster are identical with ideas of how the old War Goddesses were viewed in the Good Old Days. :thumbs up
Interesting. Here in Croatia, as well as in other Slavic lands, the old Slavic gods were turned into saints, e.g. saint Ilija (Elijah) is called "Gromovnik", like Perun was in the past, and he is attributed with power to control thunder and lightning. There's also st. Vid (Vitus), who replaced Svetovid or Svantevid, st. Vlaho (Blasius) who replaced Veles etc. There are also many parts of folklore here that stem from the old Slavic ones, like decorating water-wells with flowers and wearing masks and make noise in order to scare away (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvon%C4%8Dari) the evil winter spirits.

Radojica
01-06-2011, 10:22 AM
The badnjak (Cyrillic (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbian%20Cyrillic%20alphabet/): бадњак, ), also called veseljak (весељак, , literally "jovial one" in Serbian (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbian%20language/)), is represented by three types of objects in Serbian Christmas celebrations (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbian%20Christmas%20traditions/). The oldest type is a log brought into the house and placed on the fire on the evening of Christmas Eve (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Christmas%20Eve/), much like a yule log (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/yule%20log/) in other European traditions (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Christmas_worldwide#Europe/). The tree from which the log is cut, preferably a young and straight oak (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/oak/), is ceremonially felled early on the morning of Christmas Eve. The felling, preparation, bringing in, and laying on the fire, are surrounded by elaborate rituals, with many regional variations. The burning of the log is accompanied by prayers that the coming year brings food, happiness, love, luck, and riches. The log burns on throughout Christmas Day (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Christmas/), when the first visitor strikes it with a poker or a branch to make sparks fly, requesting that the family's happiness and prosperity be as abundant as the sparks. Another type of the badnjak that has developed among the Serbs (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbs/) has mostly replaced the traditional log, whose burning is usually unfeasible in modern homes. It is a cluster of oak twigs with brown leaves attached, with which the home is decorated on the Eve.

The third type of the badnjak is represented by felled oak saplings which the Serbs use in their public celebrations on Christmas Eve. The Serbian badnjak tradition was originally a private affair conducted within the family, but since the early 20th century it has also been celebrated more publicly. Before World War I (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/World%20War%20I/), soldiers of the Kingdom of Serbia (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Kingdom%20of%20Serbia/) developed the custom of laying a badnjak on a fire in their barracks (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/barracks/). In the succeeding Kingdom of Yugoslavia (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Kingdom%20of%20Yugoslavia/), the military badnjak ceremony was further elaborated and standardized in army service regulations, but the tradition ended on the outbreak of World War II (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/World%20War%20II/). Since the early 1990s, the Serbian Orthodox Church (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbian%20Orthodox%20Church/) has, together with local communities, organized public celebrations on the Eve in which the badnjak plays a central role. Parishioners festively cut the sapling to be used as the badnjak and take it to their church, where it is consecrated by a priest before it is ceremonially placed on a fire built in the churchyard.

The festive kindling of the badnjak commemorates the fire that—according to Serbian folk tradition—the shepherds of Bethlehem (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Bethlehem/) built in the cave where Jesus Christ (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Jesus/) was born (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Nativity%20of%20Jesus/), to warm the Baby Jesus and his mother (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Theotokos/) throughout the night. The badnjak may also be seen as a symbol (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Christian%20symbolism/) of the cross upon which Christ was crucified (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Crucifixion%20of%20Jesus/), the warmth of its fire symbolizing the salvation (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Atonement%20in%20Christianity#Eastern%20Christiani ty/) which, in the Christian belief (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Christianity/), the crucifixion made possible for mankind. Scholars regard the tradition as inherited from the old Slavic religion (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Slavic%20mythology/). They interpret the badnjak as an incarnation of the spirit of vegetation, and as a divinity who dies by burning to be reborn, to whom sacrifices and prayers were offered for the fertility of fields, the health and happiness of the family. The burning symbolized sunshine, securing the vitalizing power of the sun in the coming year. The custom that a family brings a log into the house and burns it on Christmas Eve is attested among other South Slavic peoples (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/South%20Slavs/), with similar names for the log. This custom has also been recorded in other parts of Europe.

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp300/zelear/Badnjak2.jpg
Family celebration

Felling and preparing

Traditionally, the badnjak ceremony begins on Christmas Eve, but there are many regional variations surrounding the details. Early in the morning the head of each family, usually accompanied by several male relatives, selects and fells the tree from which a log will be cut for their household. The group announces its departure by firing guns or small celebratory mortars (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/mortar%20%28weapon%29/) called prangija. The Turkey oak (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Quercus%20cerris/) is the most popular species of tree selected in most regions, but other oaks are also chosen. Beech (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Beech/), pear (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/pear/), quince (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/quince/), hornbeam (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/hornbeam/), and plum (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/plum/) trees are used in eastern Serbia (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Serbia/), although less frequently than oak trees. In some areas of Montenegrin Littoral (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Montenegrin%20Littoral/) where oaks do not grow, olive (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/olive/)s, bay laurel (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/bay%20laurel/)s, elm (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/elm/)s, or strawberry tree (http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Arbutus%20unedo/) are used instead. Young, straight, and undamaged specimens are preferred. The badnjak may be more valued if it is felled stealthily in someone else's rather than in one's own woods.

Generally, each household prepares one badnjak, although more are cut in some regions. Depending on the local custom, Montenegrin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro) Serbs may fell two, three, an arbitrary number greater than two, or the number equal to the male members of household plus one. The latter means that each of the males has a log associated with him, with the thickest log representing the head of household and the thinnest linked to the family's prosperity. If there is only one man in the household, three rather than two logs are prepared. The logs may be cut from different species of tree.In parts of the Bay of Kotor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Kotor), each household prepares four sets of badnjaks, as they are burned there not only on Christmas Eve, but also on the eves of New Years Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Years_Day), Epiphany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_%28holiday%29), and the Feast of Saint Sava (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sava).



When the head of household finds a suitable tree, he stands in front of it facing east. After throwing grain at the tree, he greets it with the words "Good morning and happy Christmas Eve to you", makes the Sign of the Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_Cross), says a prayer, and kisses the tree. He may also explain to the badnjak why it will be cut: "I have come to you to take to my home, to be my faithful helper to every progress and improvement, in the house, in the pen, in the field, and in every place."He then cuts it slantwise on its eastern side, using an axe. Some men put gloves on before they start to cut the tree, and from then on never touch the badnjak with their bare hands. The tree should fall to the east, unhindered by surrounding trees. It must not be left half-cut, as then it will curse the house of the man. In some regions, if the tree is not cut down after the third blow of the axe, then it must be pulled and twisted until its trunk breaks. The resulting badnjak has a so-called "beard", the part of the trunk at which it broke off from the base of the tree. In Šumadija (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0umadija), half of a circular loaf of bread is left on the stump, the other half being eaten on the way back home. In Zagarač, the stump is covered with moss or dry leaves, and it will be visited again in spring: the stump sprouting through the cover is an omen of good luck and prosperity.
The first splinter from the tree is taken home and placed where prosperity is especially desired, such as beside the beehives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beehive), in the hen roost, or between milk basins in the dairy room (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy), in the hope that the coming year's kaymak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaymak) will clot to form thick layers in the basins. It may also be placed beneath some baker's yeast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%27s_yeast), so that the prosperity of the household may grow like yeast. In Semberija (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semberija), a piece of the splinter is put in the dough for the česnica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Cesnica), a round loaf of bread prepared specially for Christmas dinner. This is done "because of bees", as the reason is traditionally termed.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak_%28Serbian%29#cite_note-cajkanovic2-1)
The top of the felled tree is removed, leaving the badnjak of such a length that allows it to be carried on a man's shoulder, up to about 2.5 meters (8.2 ft) long. Its branches may be lopped off, or not, depending on the local custom. Once in the home, each badnjak is leaned vertically against the house beside the entrance door. In Montenegrin Littoral, each should be adorned with leaved bay laurel, olive, juniper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juniper), and rosemary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary) twigs, which are tied to the trunk's top, middle, and base with ivy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy) or red silken or woolen threads. In parts of eastern Serbia and Kosovo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo) the badnjak is wrapped in a man's shirt.
In west Serbia's region of Rađevina, centered on the town of Krupanj (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupanj), the badnjak prepared for each household is cut into three logs, the most important of which is the dozemak—the log that comes from the part of the trunk that grew nearest to the ground. In Resava, Levač (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leva%C4%8D), Temnić, and Jadar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadar_%28Serbia%29) of Serbia, as well as in Ozren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozren_%28Bosnia_and_Herzegovina%29) and Romanija (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanija) of Bosnia, the badnjak is cut into three logs associated respectively with the men, the women, and the children.


Bringing in and burning


In the evening, a man of the family brings their badnjak into the house. If there is more than one badnjak, the thickest of them is regarded as the main one, and is brought in first. Stepping across the threshold, right foot first, the man greets his gathered family with the words "Good evening and happy Christmas Eve to you." The woman of the house greets him back, saying "May God give you well-being, and may you have good luck", or "Good luck to you, and together with you for many years to come [may we be]", or similar, before throwing grain from a sieve at the man and the badnjak he carries. In the clan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serb_clans) of Kuči (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku%C4%8Di), the woman touches the "beard" of the main badnjak with a whole loaf of bread. In Montenegro, two women holding lighted candles stand one on either side of the house door as the badnjaks are carried in.
Upon entering the house the man approaches the fireplace, called ognjište ([ˈɔɡɲiːʃtɛ])—the hearth of an ognjište is similar to a campfire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campfire), in that it has no vertical surround. He lays the badnjak down on the fire and moves it a little forward, to summon prosperity for the household.Any other logs are brought in by other males and laid on the fire parallel or perpendicular to the first. In a family with the tradition of burning the badnjak and badnjačica, they are laid one across the other; the males then kiss the former, and the females the latter. In Bukovica the two thicker logs are placed side by side, and the thinner one (trinity) is placed in parallel on top. In 19th-century Herzegovina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herzegovina), families with large houses would load their logs onto three or four pairs of oxen, which were then led into the house. The logs were unloaded and laid on the fire, and the oxen driven out through the back door.
Immediately after the badnjak has been brought in, or immediately before in some places, an armful of straw is spread over the floor. The straw is usually brought in with the same greetings and throwing of grain as the badnjak. The person spreading it may imitate a hen clucking to call her chicks, "Kvo, kvo, kvo", with the family's children imitating chicks, "Piju, piju, piju", while they pick at the straw. In Čečava (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Ce%C4%8Dava), northern Bosnia, the children then lie down on the straw, before closing their eyes and picking a stalk with their lips: the child that picked the longest stalk will supposedly be the luckiest in the following year.In the Bay of Kotor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Kotor), the ceremony is accompanied by the words "Kuda slama, tuda slava"—"Whither straw, thither celebration." A common custom is to scatter a handful of walnuts over the straw. It will be collected and taken out of the house on the morning of the second day after Christmas. Some of the straw may be set aside and used in apotropaic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotropaic_magic) practices in the coming year.
The thicker end of the log, the end that was nearest to the tree's roots, may have a special significance. In Montenegro it is called the head of the badnjak; the main log is laid on the fire with its head pointing east. In central Serbia the badnjak is laid with its thicker end sticking out from the ognjište. The household's shepherds would kiss over it to ensure an abundance of lambs in the coming year. In Gruža (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gru%C5%BEa_%28region%29) it is coated with honey which is then licked by children. At the side of ognjište where the thicker end is situated, the family may place a plowshare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plowshare), a round loaf of bread, a glove filled with wheat, sugar, or a sieve containing grain, honey, cakes, wine, salt, prunes, walnuts, and apples. The cut surface of the thicker end is in Čečava kissed by all the family members after the badnjak is laid on the fire.
The head of the household takes a jug of wine and pours some on the badnjak; in some regions, he may strew wheat grains over the logs.He then proposes a toast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_%28honor%29): "Grant, O God, that there be health and joy in this home, that our grain and grapevines yield well, that children be born healthy to us, that our property increase in the field, pen, and barn!" or, "Hail, badnjak, veseljak! I give you wheat and wine, and you give me every good thing and peace!" or similar. The name veseljak, literally "jovial one", is used along with badnjak in some areas. The head drinks a draught of wine from the jug, after which it is passed to other members of household. In the clan of Kuči, wine is poured on the "beard" of the badnjak, and then a little girl sits for a moment on the log—for the well-being of the cattle. Christmas Eve dinner follows, which traditionally includes a round loaf of unleavened bread, beans, fish, walnuts, honey, and red wine. The bread is not cut with a knife, but broken with hands.
The badnjak should not be jumped over or trodden upon, and blowing on its fire is avoided. It should not be moved when about to burn through, lest the log break at the place most consumed by the fire, which is usually strongest at the center of the fireplace; the separation of the log should be a result of the fire only. None of the family members should fall asleep before the log splits, otherwise some of them may die in the coming year, without warning.
The moment when the badnjak burns through may be marked with festivities, such as the log being kissed by the head of household, and wine being poured over it accompanied by toasts. A reward may be given to the family member who was the first to notice the event, and in the past the men would go outside and fire their guns in celebration. There is a special verb preveseliti used instead of the common pregoreti to express "to burn through" when referring to the badnjak, which has the same root (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_%28linguistics%29) as the noun veseljak. Once the log has burnt through, some families let the fire go out, while in others the men keep watch in shifts during the night to keep the badnjak burning.
Once the badnjak has burnt through, the thicker end is often taken out of the fire and used according to the local custom. It may be carried around the beehives, extinguished, and placed between the branches of a young plum or apple tree.The men may make crosses from it and put them under the eaves, on the fields, meadows, vineyards, and apiaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apiary), so that the coming year may be happy and fruitful. It may also be set aside for next Christmas Eve, to be placed on the fire immediately before the new badnjak, as a symbol of continuity. In Kosovo, a part of the badnjak is preserved and burned again on New Years Day and Epiphany.
The badnjak burns on through Christmas Day, whether rekindled or kept burning from the Eve. The first visit the family receives that day is considered important, comparable to New Years Day first-footing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-foot) in the British Isles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles). The family may choose someone, usually a young male, to be their first visitor, known as a polaznik, before the arrival of whom no outsider is allowed to enter the house. Early on the morning of Christmas Day he steps into the house, right foot first, and greets the family with "Christ is Born", to which they reply "Truly He is Born." The polaznik then approaches the ognjište and repeatedly strikes the burning log with a poker or a branch to make sparks fly. At the same time he utters a wish that the happiness and prosperity of the household be as abundant as the sparks:


Колико варница, толико среће у овој кући.
Колико варница, толико у домаћинском џепу новаца.
Колико варница, толико у тору оваца.
Колико варница, толико прасади и јагањаца.
Колико варница, толико гусака и пилади,
а највише здравља и весеља.

How many sparks, that much happiness in this house.How many sparks, that much money in the household head's pocket.How many sparks, that many sheep in the pen.How many sparks, that many pigs and lambs.How many sparks, that many geese and chickens,and most of all, health and joy.


The wording of this well-wishing may vary, but its intention is always the same, to invoke happiness and prosperity. The polaznik will then throw a coin into the fire before being presented with a round loaf of bread, the traditional gift for the polaznik, usually accompanied by some other present. The custom to use a domestic animal as a polaznik was kept in some regions until the first half of the 20th century. In Rađevina, the head of the household would lead a sheep into the house, place it between the ognjište and himself, and utter the wishes while striking the badnjak with a branch cut from it, before saying: "We passed one fire, we are not afraid of another." His wife would then kiss him over the sheep after saying "may the ewes kiss the lambs as we kiss each other."
Embers of the badnjak may be used for divination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination) in Jadar. The number of these equal to the sum of grain and livestock sorts grown by the family are taken out from the ognjište and placed on the česnica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Cesnica). Each of the sorts is associated with its own ember on that loaf. The sort whose ember retains its glow longer than the others should be the most productive in the coming year. The log sparking by itself presages a rich harvest of honey. Cooled coals of the badnjak may be placed between the branches of fruit trees; the young trees may be provided also with twigs from the badnjak. Its ash may be spread over the fields and mixed with fodder. Some of the ash may be set aside to be taken with water as a remedy for headache. There are also numerous other regional practices connected with the badnjak.


Public celebration

The badnjak ceremony, originally performed only within the family, became a more public celebration. A custom developed before World War I in the Kingdom of Serbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Serbia) to lay the badnjak on a fire built in military barracks, so that the soldiers stationed there over Christmas could share in the holiday atmosphere. In the succeeding Kingdom of Yugoslavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Yugoslavia), the military badnjak ceremony was standardized in army service regulations. On Christmas Eve, under the command of a specially appointed officer, the representatives of military units of a garrison formed a festive procession on horses, accompanied with music. Members of citizens' associations and other civilians of the garrison town usually joined the procession as it proceeded to the nearest wood to collect the badnjak. They felled a set number of trees, dedicated respectively to the Royal Palace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Compound), the military command of the town, the respective commands of units of the garrison, its oldest officer, and its officers' assembly house. The procession brought the trees to the barracks, in whose yard an open fire was built. The garrison commander then placed the trees ceremonially on the fire, and gave an appropriate address.
More and more state institutions, private firms, organizations, and clubs joined the procession each year, and the event began to take on the character of a public holiday. During the 1930s, the laying of badnjak on the fire became a court ritual. It was performed, in the presence of the royal family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Kara%C4%91or%C4%91evi%C4%87), by representatives of the army in the Royal Palace's room with a fireplace. At the end of the 1930s in some parts of Yugoslavia, especially Vojvodina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojvodina) and Montenegro, the military badnjak ceremony was performed not in the barracks yard but in a square in the garrison town. An open fire was built, on which the badnjak was placed by an Orthodox priest in the presence of soldiers and citizens. This tradition, symbolizing the unity of state, church, and people, was ended by the outbreak of World War II.
Yugoslavia's socialist government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia) suppressed or discouraged public religious celebrations, until the early 1990s. Since then the Serbian Orthodox Church has, together with local communities, organized public celebrations on Christmas Eve. There are typically three elements to such celebrations: the preparation, the ritual, and the festivity. The preparation consists of cutting down the oak sapling to be used as the badnjak, taking it to the church yard, and preparing drink and food for the assembled parishioners. The ritual includes Vespers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespers), placing the badnjak on the open fire built in the church yard, blessing or consecrating the badnjak, and an appropriate program with songs and recitals. In some parishes they build the fire on which to burn the badnjak not in the church yard but at some other suitable location in their town or village. The festivity consists of gathering around the fire and socializing. Each particular celebration has its own specific traits however, reflecting the traditions of the local community.
The expedition to cut down the badnjak is the basic activity in the preparation part of the celebration. It can be performed by an individual, but it is usually a collective act accompanied by a festive procession that may include carriages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage) and horsemen. After the tree to be used as the badnjak is cut down, it is adorned with straw, ribbons, oranges, apples, and sometimes with the Serbian flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Serbia). In some parishes more than one badnjak is used in the celebration, and a different tree is felled for each. Often bunches of leaved oak twigs are prepared to be distributed to the congregation gathered at the church. Each badnjak is festively taken to the church gate, often transported on carriages. The badnjak may be taken into the churchyard without any ceremony, or it may be followed by a procession, as is the case in parts of Republika Srpska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republika_Srpska) and the Bay of Kotor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Kotor).
The ritual is the central part of the celebration. Vespers vary from place to place with respect to the time of the beginning of the service, its length and structure. The laying of badnjak on the fire usually comes after the service, and is done by a priest or by a respected parishioner. Before the burning, the tree may be processionally carried around the church. In the case of more than one badnjak, the trees are placed in the shape of a cross. The assembled devotees throw then into the fire their twig bunches, each representing a small badnjak. The consecration or blessing is performed by a priest: he strews wheat grains over the badnjak, censes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurible) it while singing the Troparion of the Nativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troparion), and as he intones prayers, he pours wine and spreads honey on it. Instead of applying wine and honey, holy water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_water_in_Eastern_Christianity) may be sprinkled on the tree by dipping a bunch of basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil) into a bowl with the water. This rite is generally performed after the placing on the fire, although it may happen before, in which case the consecration may be performed in the church itself or in its yard.
After the ritual the priest delivers a short sermon, followed by the church choir singing Christmas songs; poems that praise the Nativity of Jesus Christ may be recited. In Montenegro, decasyllable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decasyllable) Serbian epics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_epic_poetry) are sung to an accompaniment played on the gusle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gusle), a traditional Serbian bowed string instrument. The celebration ends with parishioners gathered around the fire, served with cooked rakia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakia), wine, or tea, and the food allowed during the Nativity Fast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_Fast). Parishioners may pick a twig from the badnjak and take it home to place in front of their icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon), or at another appropriate location.
Although Serbian public religious celebrations, as those of other peoples, were discouraged in Socialist Yugoslavia until the early 1990s, they continued among Serbian Americans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_American). The public badnjak ceremony was held in Serbian Orthodox parishes in the United States during that period, as it is today.

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Interpretation


The origin of the badnjak is explained by the events surrounding the Nativity of Jesus Christ. According to the Gospel of Luke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke) 2:1–20 (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_%28King_James%29/Luke), Mary Theotokos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theotokos) gave birth to Christ at Bethlehem, wrapped him in cloths and laid him in a manger. By Holy Tradition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Tradition), the manger was located in a cave near that town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Nativity). An angel of the Lord appeared to a group of shepherds who were keeping watch over their flock by night in that region, and told them that the Savior was born at Bethlehem. They went there and found the baby lying in the manger, as the angel described to them. By folk tradition, the shepherds brought firewood to the cave and built a fire to warm the newborn Christ and his mother throughout the night. The burning of the badnjak commemorates this event.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak_%28Serbian%29#cite_note-vukovic-3)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak_%28Serbian%29#cite_note-ardalic-9)
While blessing the badnjak, some priests chant the following prayer: "O Lord Jesus Christ, our God, who did plant the Tree of Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Life_%28Judeo-Christian%29#Eastern_Christianity) in paradise so that it might bestow upon us eternal blessedness, bless also now this tree which is a symbol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_symbolism) of Thy cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus) and the Tree of Life in paradise, and which reminds us of Thy holy birth and of the logs which the shepherds of Bethlehem kindled to warm themselves when they came to worship Thee, the divine infant, and thereby prefigured Thy salvation-bearing cross."[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak_%28Serbian%29#cite_note-marshall-19)
Scholars regard the badnjak customs as practises inherited from the old Slavic religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_mythology). In the pre-Christian religion of the Serbs, as shown by Serbian scholar Veselin Čajkanović (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veselin_%C4%8Cajkanovi%C4%87), there were trees seen as dwelling places of spirits or divinities. Čajkanović argues that there were also trees seen as divinities per se. He considers the badnjak as a convincing example of the latter. Salutations, prayers, and sacrifices such as grain, wine, and honey are offered to him (the name badnjak is of masculine gender in Serbian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_language)); he is consistently treated not as a tree but as a person.
German scholar and folklorist Wilhelm Mannhardt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Mannhardt) holds that the log represented an incarnation of the spirit of vegetation. The sacrifices offered to the badnjak were meant to guarantee the fertility of fields, the health and happiness of the family. Its burning symbolized sunshine, and was intended to secure the vitalizing power of the sun in the ensuing year.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badnjak_%28Serbian%29#cite_note-miles-2) The lighting of the log could be regarded as a fusion of tree worship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_worship) and fire worship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_worship), attested in Slavic customs; e.g., Istrians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istria) fed the logs lighted on St. John's Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_St._John_the_Baptist) by sprinkling wheat upon them. Čajkanović characterizes the pre-Christian badnjak as a divinity who dies by burning to be reborn, comparing it in this respect with Attis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attis), Osiris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris), Adonis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adonis), and Sandan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandan). He also proposes that the crosses made from the thicker end of the log may have originated from idols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry) representing deities comparable with the Roman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_mythology) Lares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lares), the cruciform having developed from an anthropomorphic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism) shape of the idols. The badnjak is preferably cut from an oak, which was the most respected tree in the old Slavic religion, associated with the supreme god Perun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun).
Archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Evans) was a guest in a Serbian highlander family in the region of Krivošije (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krivo%C5%A1ije), Montenegrin Littoral. Analyzing the practices, he concluded that the badnjak customs were connected with ancestor worship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestor_worship). The lighting of the log on the ognjište could be seen as a solemn annual rekindling of the sacred hearth fire, regarded as the center of the family life and the seat of the ancestors. The belief that ancestral spirits dwell in the domestic hearth was attested among Slavic and other peoples. Fire worship in the old Slavic religion was mostly transformed into the cult of domestic fire, and thus joined with ancestor worship. A trace of sacrifice to the fire is the coin thrown into it by the polaznik after the ritual of making sparks fly from the badnjak.
Fire from the domestic hearth was under no circumstances given out of the house on Christmas Eve, not even to a neighbor whose fire had gone out. The reason for this prohibition, according to Čajkanović, was the belief that the Eve is a time when the ancestral spirits, guardians of the family's happiness and prosperity, are especially active in this world. Christmas Eve dinner is a feast prepared in their honor, and they join the family at it. They gather on the straw spread over the floor, and on the hearth. These spirits could be removed from the family if any piece of their fire were taken away by an outsider. In people's words, fire should not be given lest the luck be taken away from the house, or for better crops, or because of bees. Referring to the latter explanation, Čajkanović argues that, in the old religion of the Serbs, the bees were regarded as pure and sacred insects, in whom ancestral spirits could dwell. The same explanation, "because of bees", is also given for the aforementioned custom of putting a piece of the badnjak's first splinter in the dough for the česnica.
Russian philologist Vladimir Toporov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Toporov) has proposed that the felling of the badnjak was originally a reenactment of the mythical fight in which Mladi Božić ("young god") slew his father Stari Badnjak ("old Badnjak"). Božić, the diminutive form (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminutive) of the noun bog, meaning god, is also the Serbian for "Christmas". The characters of Stari Badnjak and Mladi Božić are found in old Serbian Christmas songs, where they are not explicitely referred to as father and son, and no fight between them is mentioned. By Toporov, the former personified the last day of the Old Year, the climax of the power of Chaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_%28mythology%29), and the latter personified the first day of the New Year, the beginning of reestablishment of Cosmic Order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos). He regards Stari Badnjak and Mladi Božić as originating from respectively the dragon and the dragon slayer of the Proto-Indo-European mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_mythology#Dragon_or_Serpent). Stari Badnjak would be related to both the Vedic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas) serpent Ahi Budhnya ("the Dragon of the Deep") killed by Indra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra), and the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology) dragon Python (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28mythology%29) killed by Apollo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo).The words badnjak, budhnya, and python stem from the Proto-Indo-European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language) root (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_%28linguistics%29) * (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Historical_linguistics)bhudh-, denoting bottom, foundation, depths, and related notions.
According to Russian philologist and mythographer Boris Uspensky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Uspensky), Stari Badnjak and Mladi Božić have analogues in East Slavic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Slavs) tradition—Nikola's Dad and Nikola. The name Nikola is a popular reference to Saint Nicholas of Myra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas), whose feast falls nineteen days before Christmas, on 6 December, his "dad" being celebrated the day before. Nikola is portrayed in East Slavic folklore as merciful and protective towards the common people, patron of animals and agriculture, connected with riches, abundance, and fertility. Uspensky argues that this saint took on attributes of the serpentine god Volos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veles_%28god%29), whose cult was very strong among East Slavs before Christianization. He was the adversary of the dreadful thunder-god Perun, who is in this case reflected in Nikola's Dad.
The notion of a quarrel between Nikola and his "dad" is present in a number of legends. The connection between the father–son pairs of Stari Badnjak–Mladi Božić and Nikola's Dad–Nikola is corroborated by the fact that, in many East Slavic regions, practices characteristic for Christmas have been transferred to the Feast of Saint Nicholas. There is, however, an inversion in the comparison between these two pairs. In the former pair, the first stems from the mythical dragon, and the second from the dragon fighter, while in the latter pair it is vice versa. This inversion explains, by Uspensky, the fact that in some areas Nikola's Dad is celebrated on the day after his son's feast, rather than on the eve of it. In that way, the "dragon" (Nikola) comes before the "dragon fighter" (Nikola's Dad), as is the case with Stari Badnjak and Mladi Božić.
Serbian ethnologist Petar Vlahović has proposed that the noun badnjak and the related adjective badnji (attributive "Christmas Eve") are derived from the root of the verb bdeti ("to be awake"), referring to a custom of staying awake through the night before Christmas Day. The same etymology of the adjective badnji has also been proposed by Vuk Stefanović Karadžić (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Stefanovi%C4%87_Karad%C5%BEi%C4%87), 19th-century Serbian philologist, systematizer of oral literature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_literature), and ethnographer.

poiuytrewq0987
01-06-2011, 01:49 PM
A year's gone by already? Merry Christmas.

The Ripper
01-06-2011, 02:54 PM
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Kristus syntyy! - Kiittäkää!

:)

Aemma
01-06-2011, 03:46 PM
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A good Christmas to you all. :)

hajduk
01-06-2011, 05:58 PM
Merry Christmas to all orthodox brothers

Probably many people do not know, but Christmas Day in Bulgaria is December 25th, but we are orthodox

Bulgarians celebrate Christmas on December 25, though this is somewhat unexpected because Bulgaria is an Orthodox country. The traditional Eastern Orthodox celebration of Christmas lands on January 7. Bulgaria's Orthodox Church follows the Gregorian calendar, which means its religious observances are in keeping with those in the West. If you're in Bulgaria during the winter season, you will see cities like Sofia bedecked in Christmas lights. The Sofia Christmas Market is the ideal place for travelers to go during the month of December to experience Bulgarian Christmas cheer.

Monolith
01-07-2011, 09:10 AM
Merry Christmas to Orthodox believers! Sretan Božić, Христос се роди :)

Turkophagos
01-07-2011, 09:27 AM
Merry real Christmas!

Radojica
01-07-2011, 11:45 AM
Hristos se rodi, pravoslavna bratjo i sestre :)

Guapo
01-07-2011, 02:08 PM
Христос се роди