I2a Sephardic/Jewish?

[JQP4545]

Are there any Sephardic/Jewish branches of haplogroup I2a-Dinaric/Balkan?

[Anglojew]

I dont think so

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2122/sephardifdnabs.jpg

[SobieskisavedEurope]

I2a is probably Sardinian (Neolithic farmer)

[JQP4545]

I dont think so

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2122/sephardifdnabs.jpg

This seems strange to me. There are tons of Spanish and Italian haplogroups, but no Balkan?

[Armatus]

I2a is probably Sardinian (Neolithic farmer)

It isn't.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It isn't.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/05/y-chromosome-mtdna-and-autosomal-dna.html
http://thesesups.ups-tlse.fr/1392/

Along with G it's one of the few clades actually found at neolithic farmer sites, the second most common.

All the other clades that are supposedly neolithic farmer clades come wholly from the mind of swarty fantasists.

[Armatus]

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/05/y-chromosome-mtdna-and-autosomal-dna.html
http://thesesups.ups-tlse.fr/1392/

Along with G it's one of the few clades actually found at neolithic farmer sites, the second most common.

All the other clades that are supposedly neolithic farmer clades come wholly from the mind of swarty fantasists.

I'm aware of that fact, but 1. it's origin is not Sardinia 2. It's not a farmer hg in origin but hunter gatherer , which was partly picked up by farmers 3. It's also associated with other cultures, like the megalithic culture (only hg so far which can be surely linked to megalithic culture -> 2x I2a1 in a Dolmen near Paris). That's why it is simply wrong to brand such a diverse haplogroup as "neolithic farmer".

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I'm aware of that fact, but 1. it's origin is not Sardinia 2. It's not a farmer hg in origin but hunter gatherer , which was partly picked up by farmers 3. It's also associated with other cultures, like the megalithic culture (only hg so far which can be surely linked to megalithic culture -> 2x I2a1 in a Dolmen near Paris). That's why it is simply wrong to brand such a diverse haplogroup as "neolithic farmer".

It's also found in hunter gatherers but I would not assume that it was picked up by neolithic farmers. Earliest farming and earliest bronze works ever found are in west balkans. I think it's likely the source of megalithic farming sites, which were the earliest ones in europe (or anywhere else we know of).

I am guessing I2a probably covered a lot of europe at some point, and some of them discovered farming.

[Fire Haired]

I2a is probably Sardinian (Neolithic farmer)

I2a probably originated in Upper Palaeolithic Europe. After farmers from the near east spread to Europe they mixed with hunter gatherers. Haven't you heard of the I2a1b* found in Mesolithic Sweden and Luxembourg(click here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?121668-Revised-Lazaridis-Ancient-Genomes-suggest-three-ancestral-populations-for-present-day-Europeans))

[Fire Haired]

I have not studyed this but i think it's likely that I2a1b1a L147.2's dominance in south-east Europe is recent and descends from west European migrations well after the Mesolithic.