Was Eva Braun Jewish?

[Longbowman]

Possibly partially, which is hilarious. This from Haaretz, an Israeli paper, reporting on findings by a British team televised on Channel 4.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.583870


Adolf Hitler may have married a Jew, a New Channel 4 documentary, scheduled to air on Wednesday, reveals, according to a report on the Huffington Post.

The Dead Famous DNA film analyzed the DNA of hair samples taken from a brush believed to have belonged to Eva Braun, who married the Nazi leader shortly before the two committed suicide in 1945. According to the report in the Huffington Post, the documentary found that the DNA sample had a particular sequence passed down the maternal line called haplogroup N1b1, which is "strongly associated" with Ashkenazi Jews.

The brush was discovered by an American intelligence officer at the end of World War II in Hitler's Alpine residence, the Berghof, where Braun spent much of her time since getting romantically involved with Hitler. The brush was found in a case with the gold initials EB.

Braun grew up Catholic and was certainly not a practicing Jew, but if the DNA evidence is true, her maternal linage is descended from Ashkenazi Jews. One possibility is that one of Braun's ancestors was one of the many German Jews who converted to Catholicism during the 19th century.

Though Braun was a longtime companion of Hitler's, a fact kept from the German public throughout the war, their marriage was short lived. They wed in a civil ceremony as Russian troops were fighting to gain control of Berlin. They both committed suicide less than 40 hours later; Braun took a cyanide capsule, while Hitler shot himself.

[Longbowman]

Thumbs-down from Portu, standard.

Should add I don't think your mtDNA clade being AJ makes you AJ, if indeed Braun's was AJ. Mainly posted this cause it's funny.

[portusaus]

1. She died Eva Hitler.

2.


The brush was discovered by an American intelligence officer at the end of World War II

http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp16396343.jpg

[Longbowman]

1. She died Eva Hitler.

2.



http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp16396343.jpg

Before DNA had been discovered, old boy ;)

My mistake. Eva Hitler.

[Anglojew]

She certainly looks it. I'm convinced Eichmann was too.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/109852765-eva-braun-rowing-a-boat-on-the-worthsee-near-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=lGnjDs01aeQKqjld9R%2FRaewsIbFhkTle3WHTiZep2u1UIe z8d2WuTfCsj2SrnSQnqGPeYd0Ngufyx4FznlLsVg%3D%3D

[Longbowman]

She certainly looks it. I'm convinced Eichmann was too.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/109852765-eva-braun-rowing-a-boat-on-the-worthsee-near-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=lGnjDs01aeQKqjld9R%2FRaewsIbFhkTle3WHTiZep2u1UIe z8d2WuTfCsj2SrnSQnqGPeYd0Ngufyx4FznlLsVg%3D%3D

£10 Portu thumbs you down.

[Smaug]

I hope not, for the sake of Jewish memory. Hitler was a cunt.

[Rædwald]

There were a few ranking Nazi officials with some Jewish ancestry, but they were made "Honorary-Aryans" by Hitler himself.

[Longbowman]

I hope not, for the sake of Jewish memory. Hitler was a cunt.

Realistically she'd only have been partially Jewish if at all. Doesn't matter if she was or wasn't though. Have to agree with the last sentence :thumb001:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

And people laughed at my brachy-jew theory.

[armenianbodyhair]

I'm sure a lot of Europeans have AJ admixture no? The history of Ashkenazis is part of the history of Europe and Europeans whether any of the concerned parties like it or not.

[Anglojew]

There were a few ranking Nazi officials with some Jewish ancestry, but they were made "Honorary-Aryans" by Hitler himself.

Both Lueger and Goring are infamous for claiming about themselves, "I decide who is a Jew" in order to let off their Jewish friends from Nazi persecution (and proto-Nazis in Lueger's case). I think Hitler may have said something similar too.

[Rædwald]

Both Lueger and Goring are infamous for claiming about themselves, "I decide who is a Jew" in order to let off their Jewish friends from Nazi persecution (and proto-Nazis in Lueger's case). I think Hitler may have said something similar too.

Yes, and I might add soldiers who served in WWI for Germany who had Jewish ancestry were also under certain circumstances exempt from persecution in lieu of their service.

[Óttar]

I don't think Braun or Eichmann look Jewish. Reinhardt Heydrich on the other hand, looks like the male version of a Jewish chick I slept with once.

http://www.nndb.com/people/199/000025124/reinhard-heydrich-1-sized.jpg

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/heydrich.jpg

http://collectinghistory.net/heydrichstamp/heydrich&frank.jpg

[Anglojew]

I don't think Braun or Eichmann look Jewish. Reinhardt Heydrich on the other hand, looks like the male version of a Jewish chick I slept with once.

http://www.nndb.com/people/199/000025124/reinhard-heydrich-1-sized.jpg

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/heydrich.jpg

http://collectinghistory.net/heydrichstamp/heydrich&frank.jpg

I think Eichmann looks very Ashkenazi.

http://www.dokweb.net/admin/user_img/lucina_movie/prev/6928_6114752125059b174eaf86.jpg

http://remember.org/eichmann/eich15.jpg

[Polski]

It's a load of nonsense.

Firstly, they can't even be sure the hair tested was Eva's to begin with and secondly the DNA found is not at all exclusive to Jews.

Let's even assume these DNA findings are correct, she still would not have been considered a Jew or Mischlinge even by National-Socialist racial law standards known as the Nuremberg Laws since back to her grandparents were "Aryans".

Eva Braun was not part Jewish.

[Chichic]

She certainly looks it. I'm convinced Eichmann was too.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/109852765-eva-braun-rowing-a-boat-on-the-worthsee-near-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=lGnjDs01aeQKqjld9R%2FRaewsIbFhkTle3WHTiZep2u1UIe z8d2WuTfCsj2SrnSQnqGPeYd0Ngufyx4FznlLsVg%3D%3D

Nonsense. Neither Eva Braun nor Adolf Eichmann looked Jewish.

[Chichic]

I don't think Braun or Eichmann look Jewish. Reinhardt Heydrich on the other hand, looks like the male version of a Jewish chick I slept with once.

http://www.nndb.com/people/199/000025124/reinhard-heydrich-1-sized.jpg

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/heydrich.jpg

http://collectinghistory.net/heydrichstamp/heydrich&frank.jpg

Heydrich didn't look like an Ashkenazi Jew, everyone who is saying that is a clueless pseudo intellectual.

[Sandman]

I don't think Braun or Eichmann look Jewish. Reinhardt Heydrich on the other hand, looks like the male version of a Jewish chick I slept with once.

http://www.nndb.com/people/199/000025124/reinhard-heydrich-1-sized.jpg

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/heydrich.jpg



http://collectinghistory.net/heydrichstamp/heydrich&frank.jpg

They appear to be Dinaroids.

[Chichic]

Both Lueger and Goring are infamous for claiming about themselves, "I decide who is a Jew" in order to let off their Jewish friends from Nazi persecution (and proto-Nazis in Lueger's case). I think Hitler may have said something similar too.

Do you even know German?

[Anglojew]

Do you even know German?

No. Only French.

[King Claus]

Possibly partially, which is hilarious. This from Haaretz, an Israeli paper, reporting on findings by a British team televised on Channel 4.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.583870

At first i thought this topic was quite laughable but now that I've looked at eva brauns picture i must confirm that her hideous look is indeed very jewish.

http://i59.tinypic.com/qpmr5v.jpg

[Longbowman]

It's a load of nonsense.

Firstly, they can't even be sure the hair tested was Eva's to begin with and secondly the DNA found is not at all exclusive to Jews.

Let's even assume these DNA findings are correct, she still would not have been considered a Jew or Mischlinge even by National-Socialist racial law standards known as the Nuremberg Laws since back to her grandparents were "Aryans".

Eva Braun was not part Jewish.

Oh, obviously. I'm not taking this seriously or anything. However the mtDNA clade is essentially uniquely Jewish. If it were actually her DNA she could have one distant Jewish ancestress.

[Xanthias]

http://basscreek.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/evabraun.jpg

http://media.nn.ru/data/ufiles/4/28/98/289822.Eva_A_Braun.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_laz4dxrycx1qdfjs1o1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1398088944&Signature=4Kvm2ME%2BXWMRO1NWqhYIEC9p8qM%3D#_=_

in my opinion, she may have a bit of jewish in her.

[Xanthias]

At first i thought this topic was quite laughable but now that i looked at eva brauns picture i must confirm that her hideous look is indeed very jewish.

http://i59.tinypic.com/qpmr5v.jpg

That can't be her.

[babycakes]

Does it matter? They're both dead.

[King Claus]

That can't be her.

That's because the picture shows her more from the side than the front

[Xanthias]

That's because the picture shows her more from the side than the front

Even like that I hardly can believe she looks like this.

must be the angle of the photo, really.

[Chichic]

At first i thought this topic was quite laughable but now that i looked at eva brauns picture i must confirm that her hideous look is indeed very jewish.

http://i59.tinypic.com/qpmr5v.jpg

You're just dumb. Where does she look Jewish? She looks very typical South German.

[King Claus]

You're just dumb. Where does she look Jewish? She looks very typical South German.

Haha, you only say that because of your own jewish appearance .

[Virtuous]

Nothing else but another made-up story to smear the cause of the NationalSocialist movement. On par with the other stories of Hitler being a Meth-head, a homosexual and a half Jew.

[Kiyant]

Oh the irony

[Shuffle]

Maybe she was maybe not. I got a whole bunch of jewish matches on FTDNA when I made the autosomal test and was pretty surprised! I still haven't the slightest clue where this could come from nothing is known in my family. But there seems to be some jewish line in my family anyway. Many Jews may have converted during the middle-ages when there were pogroms over and over in South-Germany, it is well known that there were proselytes, so it could be something not that unusual that a south- or west-german got some jewish ancestry, maybe Eva Braun, too. I get the irony but who really cares today?

[Longbowman]

Nothing else but another made-up story to smear the cause of the NationalSocialist movement. On par with the other stories of Hitler being a Meth-head, a homosexual and a half Jew.

Being associated with Jews is a step up for Eva Braun, considering her previous affiliations.

[Kiyant]

Being associated with Jews is a step up for Eva Braun, considering her previous affiliations.

LOL

[Virtuous]

Being associated with Jews is a step up for Eva Braun, considering her previous affiliations.

I do not really consider pathological parasitism as a "step up", but some people have other priorities.

[zhaoyun]

You guys already have all the banks (including the West Bank), and now you want Hitler's girl too?

[Kiyant]

I do not really consider pathological parasitism as a "step up", but some people have other priorities.

Jews arent parasites they are just more intelligent then others

[Virtuous]

Jews arent parasites they are just more intelligent then others

You're the one who mentioned it. However before discussing about intelligence I'd check my own grammar. Considering that Israel benefits lots from the hard work of American taxpayers and European innovation, I wouldn't think it's the case. The only reason why such a high IQ is high amongst Jews in Israel is exactly due to the evil Nazi tradition of "pickiness". Speaking of which...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10247336_649631295091130_3979293240609682216_n.jpg

Because you see, Nazism is nothing else but a projection of the sheer hedonism found in ancient-old Jewry projected unto the people that exposed it (NationalSocialism). Jewry, not Jews, but Jews = Jewry to the Talmud, so it is quite tricky, being a deliberated/perpetuated cycle of victimization, entitlement and superiority complex.

Jewry is the oxidizing agent of Civilizations.

[Xanthias]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10247336_649631295091130_3979293240609682216_n.jpg

Oh god, I never knew they were able to do this. :lol:

[Wolf_Blood]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10247336_649631295091130_3979293240609682216_n.jpg

Oh god, I never knew they were able to do this. :lol:

Zionists learned from the best. :thumb001:


I actually wouldn't be that surprised if it turned out Eva was part Jewish. A lot of those Jewish girls have a Nazi fetish. It's sick. Demented. Sexy.

[Smeagol]

Yes.

[Longbowman]

Plissken strikes me as someone who needs someone to blame. A scapegoat to distract from personal shortcomings. I think he needs Jews. Without them he might be forced to confront the reality that he's the weak link in the chain. Or, you know, he'd just pick on Gypsies or Slavs or the disabled or something.

[Visitor_22]

I doubt it. Skulls look typical german "ShoeMaker" type! :)

[portusaus]

Get the fuck off this thread for the day, you know what day it is. Disgraceful sacks of shit.

[Kiyant]

Get the fuck off this thread for the day, you know what day it is. Disgraceful sacks of shit.

Why should we?

[Smeagol]

Happy birthday Hitler!

[Longbowman]

Why should we?

4/20 blaze it.

[Polski]

Oh, obviously. I'm not taking this seriously or anything. However the mtDNA clade is essentially uniquely Jewish. If it were actually her DNA she could have one distant Jewish ancestress.

No it's not.


N1b ... dates to 19-25 ka ago and is primarily found in Southwest Asia.... N1b itself has three basal branches: N1b1, N1b2, and a third, which we labeled N1b3, represented by a single sample from Anatolia. N1b2 is found mainly in Ashkenazi Jews, and its estimated age of ~2ka indicates a recent founder effect among Ashkenazi ancestors. The main subclade, N1b1, dates to ~13-14 ka ago and includes several branches from the Near East, Europe (rarely, mainly in central and eastern Mediterranean Europe), Arabia, and northern Africa (Figure 2C).

The Arabian Cradle: Mitochondrial Relicts of the First Steps along the Southern Route out of Africa (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3276663/)

What you also seem to be missing is the fact they don't even know if it was her hair or not and by Hitler's own standards she would not have been a Jew or Mischlinge.

[Longbowman]

No it's not.



The Arabian Cradle: Mitochondrial Relicts of the First Steps along the Southern Route out of Africa (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3276663/)

What you also seem to be missing is the fact they don't even know if it was her hair or not and by Hitler's own standards she would not have been a Jew or Mischlinge.

Ah, I read 'N1b2.'

But yeah I know. It just grabbed my attention. Even if Braun had been fully Jewish I don't think I'd care any more or less.

[Virtuous]

Plissken strikes me as someone who needs someone to blame. A scapegoat to distract from personal shortcomings. I think he needs Jews. Without them he might be forced to confront the reality that he's the weak link in the chain. Or, you know, he'd just pick on Gypsies or Slavs or the disabled or something.

Eloquence and pompousness compensating for the lack of objectivity. Escapism and self-victimization. All the elements which make you a good disciple. The Rabbi that suckled would've been proud.

[Longbowman]

Eloquence and pompousness compensating for the lack of objectivity. Escapism and self-victimization. All the elements which make you a good disciple. The Rabbi that suckled would've been proud.

Sucked* but no Rabbi sucked, my good man.

No denial? Didn't think so ;)

[Kiyant]

Sucked* but no Rabbi sucked, my good man.

No denial? Didn't think so ;)

I dont think anyone here (except Anglo) is jewish in religion so i dont think that applies to anyone here

[PolishAmerican190]

Well if the whole Adam and Eve thing is real. Then no doubt the while crew was Jew then.

[Longbowman]

I dont think anyone here (except Anglo) is jewish in religion so i dont think that applies to anyone here

I know Uhtred and Kazimiera wanted to be at a point. I had great interest myself between the ages of 5 and 9. It wouldn't surprise me if there were any other true Jews here.

[Longbowman]

Well if the whole Adam and Eve thing is real. Then no doubt the while crew was Jew then.

Adam and Eve weren't Jewish. I mean, not just because they probably didn't exist, but even in the Bible the first Jew is Abraham.

[PolishAmerican190]

Adam and Eve weren't Jewish. I mean, not just because they probably didn't exist, but even in the Bible the first Jew is Abraham.

I doubt they existed, but hearing about them through bible stories. Wouldn't it be safe to assume they were Jewish. If Abraham was number one then what Jew was number 2? Or who made the original Jew?

[Longbowman]

I doubt they existed, but hearing about them through bible stories. Wouldn't it be safe to assume they were Jewish. If Abraham was number one then what Jew was number 2? Or who made the original Jew?

Abraham converted to Judaism. Jew number two would have been his wife I guess.

[PolishAmerican190]

Abraham converted to Judaism. Jew number two would have been his wife I guess.

Perhaps he was a founder and not a conversion. Number 2 is always irrelevant just like in sports

[Chichic]

Haha, you only say that because of your own jewish appearance .

That's all you can argue?

Eva Braun looks like the average woman from Bavaria and not Ashkenazi Jewish.

[King Claus]

That's all you can argue?

Eva Braun looks like the average woman from Bavaria and not Ashkenazi Jewish.

There's nothing else to argue about because southern german people don't look like jewish people.

[Polski]

Ah, I read 'N1b2.'

But yeah I know. It just grabbed my attention. Even if Braun had been fully Jewish I don't think I'd care any more or less.

It's okay, the same has been done about Hitler himself that by DNA he was African and Jewish yet this has also been largely refuted and the Family Tree DNA place who looked into the results even admitted the rest is just all speculation by the newspapers, which is typical because it sells and that's why this has been published because it would be greatly ironic if she did have Jewish ancestry.


Eva Braun looks like the average woman from Bavaria and not Ashkenazi Jewish.

Well as far as my understanding is that there is not an actual unique for Germans? I thought Germans vary in sub-races no?

But yes, she looks far from Jewish.

[Smaug]

I know Uhtred and Kazimiera wanted to be at a point. I had great interest myself between the ages of 5 and 9. It wouldn't surprise me if there were any other true Jews here.

Well, there was a time we both suspected Ashkenazi ancestry, but in the end it turned out to be nothing. As for "wanting" to be Jewish, I don't think Kaz ever actually did. I almost converted indeed, but it was because I dated a Jewish girl. Again, nothing really happened, except that I learnt a lot during the time we were together. Pessach sameach by th way.

[Linebacker]

Its no surprise alot of high ranking nazis even hitler's damn wife had jewish roots.Gives you a good idea of how competent they were about genetics.I wonder if some of them actually knew they were jewish and hid it.

[Chichic]

Well as far as my understanding is that there is not an actual unique for Germans? I thought Germans vary in sub-races no?

Sure, but her look is very common for Germany.

[Jackson]

As far as i know, even if it is hers, it's not a specifically Jewish lineage and could have been in Europe since the Neolithic, like Adolf Hitler's lineage. A bit clutching at straws, although it would be interesting if it was a specifically Jewish marker.

[Longbowman]

As far as i know, even if it is hers, it's not a specifically Jewish lineage and could have been in Europe since the Neolithic, like Adolf Hitler's lineage. A bit clutching at straws, although it would be interesting if it was a specifically Jewish marker.

Well, clutching at straws - I'm not sure Jews are overly keen to be connected here.

[Jackson]

Well, clutching at straws - I'm not sure Jews are overly keen to be connected here.

Yeah hehe, i was going to word it that way originally. I guess they thought it would make an interesting story.

[Dandelion]

If she was genetically she certainly wouldn't have known it her-self. I wonder whether Nazi genealogy (family trees) knew about it and kept it hidden from the Führer. I haven't read the article. Haaretz is a decent newspaper, nonetheless.

[Neon Knight]

It seems every major player in WWII is now being scrutinized for Jewish ancestry, as if to make some kind of point in favour of multi-racialism.

[Dandelion]

It seems every major player in WWII is now being scrutinized for Jewish ancestry, as if to make some kind of point in favour of multi-racialism.

Well, they also attack Hitler on having had one nut-sack. As if that makes him a 'loser' of some kind. Great slap in the face of those men who have one of their balls amputated. This article, however, isn't like this. That would be more of a Daily Mail story. ;)

[Jackson]

It seems every major player in WWII is now being scrutinized for Jewish ancestry, as if to make some kind of point in favour of multi-racialism.

Kind of silly really. Flogging a dead horse. Of course it would be interesting if it was something that was quite certain, but the evidence is generally circumstantial at most, so it ends up as an awkward smear campaign against yesteryear's villains.

[Wolf_Blood]

Well, they also attack Hitler on having had one nut-sack. As if that makes him a 'loser' of some kind.

I always thought the same thing. Hitler didn't have one ball, it's a pretty easily refuted claim. But even if he did, what would that mean? That even with one nut, he was still able to accomplish more than 99% of the world? That with one nut, he was still able to build the strongest nation the world ever saw, and fight off three super powers for as long as he did?
It's almost as if Neo-Nazis invented this claim to make Hitler look like even more of an unstoppable badass.

[King Claus]

Do you even know German?

Quite ironic that you have the audacity to say that to anglo jew while you're just a jew your self talking about germans.

[Wolf_Blood]

It seems every major player in WWII is now being scrutinized for Jewish ancestry, as if to make some kind of point in favour of multi-racialism.

Including Stalin, Churchill, and Roosevelt. But this particular stupidity is mostly from the modern white power crowd.

[Chichic]

Quite ironic that you have the audacity to say that to anglo jew while you're just a jew your self talking about germans.

Were you still not picked up by the ambulance?

[King Claus]

Were you still not picked up by the ambulance?

You're resorting to threatening me because you can't stand the truth? How pathetic.

[Chichic]

You're resorting to threatening me because you can't stand the truth? How pathetic.

No, I mean the admission to the insane asylum.

[Longbowman]

I always thought the same thing. Hitler didn't have one ball, it's a pretty easily refuted claim. But even if he did, what would that mean? That even with one nut, he was still able to accomplish more than 99% of the world? That with one nut, he was still able to build the strongest nation the world ever saw, and fight off three super powers for as long as he did?
It's almost as if Neo-Nazis invented this claim to make Hitler look like even more of an unstoppable badass.

Please, Hitler was a loser. The reality is his conquests were not impressive and/or overstated. America didn't have a presence in the European theatre until mid 1942 by which time the British had already got the run of Rommel in North Africa. The only impressive conquest was France, and even then French military history isn't amazingly glorious and the French made some serious blunders. Elsewhere, in the Balkans, they/their proxies never even successfully pinned down the Yugoslavs, and their conquest of Poland isn't impressive when you consider it was Poland versus the Reich and the USSR all at once... Hitler's allies in the region, that is Italy and her colonies in Albania and the Greek islands, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Finland and Vichy France from 1940 make the conquest of Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, and the prewar occupation of the Czech Republic deeply unimpressive. Greece was invaded by a combined force of Germans, Italians and Bulgarians. Think about this: until late 1941, Germany and her allies seriously outnumbered their enemies, which only changed when they decided to invade the USSR, and even then the Baltics (not a single Estonian joined the partisans) and Ukraine saw serious pro-German support, but the Germans never took any real key Russian city and had effectively lost within a year despite being on a surprise attack against a nation that was still sending Germany supplies when German troops crossed the border. Before that, they AND their Italian and French allies who were numerically VERY strong had had their arse handed to them by a nation fighting on four continents, including against Hitler's East Asian allies, most notably the Japanese. Hitler's military achievements were frankly mediocre. The true hero of World War 2 is Britain.

[Chichic]

Please, Hitler was a loser. The reality is his conquests were not impressive and/or overstated. America didn't have a presence in the European theatre until mid 1942 by which time the British had already got the run of Rommel in North Africa. The only impressive conquest was France, and even then French military history isn't amazingly glorious and the French made some serious blunders. Elsewhere, in the Balkans, they/their proxies never even successfully pinned down the Yugoslavs, and their conquest of Poland isn't impressive when you consider it was Poland versus the Reich and the USSR all at once... Hitler's allies in the region, that is Italy and her colonies in Albania and the Greek islands, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Finland and Vichy France from 1940 make the conquest of Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, and the prewar occupation of the Czech Republic deeply unimpressive. Greece was invaded by a combined force of Germans, Italians and Bulgarians. Think about this: until late 1941, Germany and her allies seriously outnumbered their enemies, which only changed when they decided to invade the USSR, and even then the Baltics (not a single Estonian joined the partisans) and Ukraine saw serious pro-German support, but the Germans never took any real key Russian city and had effectively lost within a year despite being on a surprise attack against a nation that was still sending Germany supplies when German troops crossed the border. Before that, they AND their Italian and French allies who were numerically VERY strong had had their arse handed to them by a nation fighting on four continents, including against Hitler's East Asian allies, most notably the Japanese. Hitler's military achievements were frankly mediocre. The true hero of World War 2 is Britain.

Nonsense.

1 vs 1 Britain would be literally destroyed by Germany.

[Longbowman]

Nonsense.

1 vs 1 Britain would be literally destroyed by Germany.

1 vs 1 it was the other way round though. In fact, 6 vs 1, when Britain fought alone against Germany, Italy, Vichy, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, but we still won.

Germany invaded: the neutral nations of Netherlands, Denmark, Luxembourg, and Norway, and with the USSR's help, Poland.

They invaded the belligerent nations of France and Belgium.

They failed to invade everywhere else except Greece. Their attack on the USSR was successful for a brief period, mainly because the USSR thought they were buddies, and because the Baltics and Ukraine wanted to be liberated. But they didn't get even as far as Moscow, which isn't much. Even with allies in Yugoslavia, particularly the Croats, Tito beat them there, too. Their successful invasion of mighty Greece was effected with huge Italian and Bulgarian assistance.

This with Italy, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Japan, and until 1941, the USSR, and from 1940, Vichy France and the French Empire, as allies.

What heroes :laugh:

What heroes!

[Xanthias]

Hitler's military achievements were frankly mediocre. The true hero of World War 2 is Britain.

Mediocre ? How about ERWIN ROMMEL (I think, just by reading it, the name should give you some hair rising :) )

[Longbowman]

Mediocre ? How about ERWIN ROMMEL (I think the name should give you some clues what I am thinking about :) )

You mean that guy who Montgomery beat?

I'm sorry, but he didn't achieve very much. I listed the countries he successfully invaded, apart from France, they were small and unimpressive and in most cases neutral...

[Chichic]

1 vs 1 it was the other way round though. In fact, 6 vs 1, when Britain fought alone against Germany, Italy, Vichy, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, but we still won.

Germany invaded: the neutral nations of Netherlands, Denmark, Luxembourg, and Norway, and with the USSR's help, Poland.

They invaded the belligerent nations of France and Belgium.

They failed to invade everywhere else except Greece. Their attack on the USSR was successful for a brief period, mainly because the USSR thought they were buddies, and because the Baltics and Ukraine wanted to be liberated. But they didn't get even as far as Moscow, which isn't much. Even with allies in Yugoslavia, particularly the Croats, Tito beat them there, too. Their successful invasion of mighty Greece was effected with huge Italian and Bulgarian assistance.

This with Italy, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Japan, and until 1941, the USSR, and from 1940, Vichy France and the French Empire, as allies.

What heroes :laugh:

What heroes!

Japan? In Europe?

You are so dumb. I could refute your nonsense with well known facts now, but I think you're just a troll with a too small brain.

I think a lot members actually laugh about you.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

You mean that guy who Montgomery beat?

I'm sorry, but he didn't achieve very much. I listed the countries he successfully invaded, apart from France, they were small and unimpressive and in most cases neutral...

They wiped out 3 large soviet armies and all their military equipment, but US supplied them with more.

Hitler/Goering made 2 blunders that kept them from destroying UK, at dunkirk and when he stopped pursuing RAF, but aside from that military won many amazing victories.

England did a lousy job for the most part and its military leadership was awful. It was just lucky to have Irish and Scottish white slaves at the grunt level to make sure they won the day anyhow.

England was more on par with Spain militarily, except for the fact it's on an island.

[Longbowman]

Japan? In Europe?

You are so dumb. I could refute your nonsense with well known facts now, but I think you're just a troll and not willing to absorb knowledge.

I think a lot members actually laugh about you.

Provide these facts within 10 minutes, or I will ban you for the day. I've had enough of your rudeness and trollish behaviour. You do this on every thread and I've given you ample warning. I clearly indicated Japan was not in Europe, but of course Britain still had to fight them both at the same time.

It is now 19:33, GMT. You have until 19:43. Go. Prove you're not a troll.

[Longbowman]

They wiped out 3 large soviet armies and all their military equipment, but US supplied them with more.

Hitler/Goering made 2 blunders that kept them from destroying UK, at dunkirk and when he stopped pursuing RAF, but aside from that military won many amazing victories.

England did a lousy job for the most part and its military leadership was awful. It was just lucky to have Irish and Scottish white slaves at the grunt level to make sure they won the day anyhow.

I'm not rising to your bullshit today. I've explained how shit the Germans were.

[Xanthias]

You mean that guy who Montgomery beat?

I'm sorry, but he didn't achieve very much. I listed the countries he successfully invaded, apart from France, they were small and unimpressive and in most cases neutral...

just common xD How about the Desert Fox ?

[Longbowman]

just common xD How about the Desert Fox ?

He was a good soldier, but he lost. Hitler in general accomplished very little. He even made Rommel commit suicide. Face it, bro ;)

[Longbowman]

Provide these facts within 10 minutes, or I will ban you for the day. I've had enough of your rudeness and trollish behaviour. You do this on every thread and I've given you ample warning. I clearly indicated Japan was not in Europe, but of course Britain still had to fight them both at the same time.

It is now 19:33, GMT. You have until 19:43. Go. Prove you're not a troll.

IT's 19.43. Come back tomorrow without the trolling.

[Xanthias]

He was a good soldier, but he lost. Hitler in general accomplished very little. He even made Rommel commit suicide. Face it, bro ;)

all right, taht's right, but you have to admit he almost scared the Brits at the battle of El Alamein, if he had won the battle, then the situation would have turend pretty deep for the British Empire xD

[Longbowman]

all right, taht's right, but you have to admit he almost scared the Brits at the battle of El Alamein, if he had won the battle, then the situation would have turend pretty deep for the British Empire

Eh, not as much was at stake. I have two close relatives who fought with Montgomery there and in Italy. Had he lost, he'd have been forced back into Egypt; so what? They could try again and again. But it's not like Rommel came close to defeating Montgomery anyway.

The ultimate reality is Hitler and all his European allies invaded one large, belligerent country, and that was France.

[Ultra]

At first i thought this topic was quite laughable but now that I've looked at eva brauns picture i must confirm that her hideous look is indeed very jewish.

http://i59.tinypic.com/qpmr5v.jpg
Wow, indeed, +1.

[TheForeigner]

Possibly partially, which is hilarious. This from Haaretz, an Israeli paper, reporting on findings by a British team televised on Channel 4.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.583870

Why do Jews want to believe and to make others believe Hitler or his mistress were Jewish or at least part Jewish? I doubt it and am almost sure it's not true. The Gestapo would have done a rigurous background check on Eva Braun(on Hitler's orders I'm sure) and there is no proof for Hitler being part Jewish even.

[TheForeigner]

Eh, not as much was at stake. I have two close relatives who fought with Montgomery there and in Italy. Had he lost, he'd have been forced back into Egypt; so what? They could try again and again. But it's not like Rommel came close to defeating Montgomery anyway.

The ultimate reality is Hitler and all his European allies invaded one large, belligerent country, and that was France.
Only Germany invaded France and in the last days, when the French army was finished, the Italians, but the latter still couldn't even tickle the French for reasons of obvious inferiority and ineptness. British were lucky Hitler didn't send more troops and material there, since they would have been smashed and mopped up from the Greater Middle East region and all ''dat oil!'' would have been German. He could have also further open another front against the Soviets from the South. And he also wanted to emancipate the colonies and protectorates of France in the Near East and North Africa and to encourage Muslim rebellions in the British colonies and protectorates of Western and Southern Asia. He didn't do this, because retard Mussolini wanted some of that land and Hitler later regreted and wrote it down in his last writings. You can read about some of this, as I did, in one of the definitive Hitler biographies by German historian Joachim Fest or from many other sources.

[Longbowman]

Why do Jews want to believe and to make others believe Hitler or his mistress were Jewish or at least part Jewish? I doubt it and am almost sure it's not true. The Gestapo would have done a rigurous background check on Eva Braun(on Hitler's orders I'm sure) and there is no proof for Hitler being part Jewish even.

I don't know. Hitler wasn't Jewish for sure. But why not his wife? He had a huge crush on a Jewish girl called Stefanie Isak as a kid.

[Longbowman]

Only Germany invaded France and in the last days, when the French army was finished, the Italians, but the latter still couldn't even tickle the French for reasons of obvious inferiority and ineptness. British were lucky Hitler didn't send more troops and material there, since they would have been smashed and mopped up from the Greater Middle East region and all ''dat oil!'' would have been German. He could have also further open another front against the Soviets from the South. And he also wanted to emancipate the colonies and protectorates of France in the Near East and North Africa and to encourage Muslim rebellions in the British colonies and protectorates of Western and Southern Asia. He didn't do this, because retard Mussolini wanted some of that land and Hitler later regreted and wrote it down in his last writings. You can read about some of this, as I did, in one of the definitive Hitler biographies by German historian Joachim Fest or from many other sources.

It's all very nice, but 'what if' never won a battle. Britain won the battles.

[TheForeigner]

It's all very nice, but 'what if' never won a battle. Britain won the battles.

And lost the Empire and it's world power status, all for nothing.

[TheForeigner]

I don't know. Hitler wasn't Jewish for sure. But why not his wife? He had a huge crush on a Jewish girl called Stefanie Isak as a kid.

Is it even proven Stefanie was Jewish? Anyway, Hitler apparently was not antisemitic or not much so in his teens. Later it is unthinkable for him to have a Jewish or even part Jewish gf.

[Longbowman]

And lost the Empire and it's world power status, all for nothing.

Stopped Germany. Ultimately stopped the USSR too. You're welcome, earth.

Besides, India was already untenable (and had been promised independence) and further decolonization was either going to happen anyway or not directly due to the war.

[Longbowman]

Is it even proven Stefanie was Jewish? Anyway, Hitler apparently was not antisemitic or not much so in his teens. Later it is unthinkable for him to have a Jewish or even part Jewish gf.

She was 100% Jewish. Her surname is Isak.

[Corvus]

Braun is a typical Jewish name and apparently she looks very Jewish
Well it does not surprise, Hitler with distant Jewish roots himself had a weakness for Jews.
Unconfirmed rumours say that he was refused by one when he tried himself as painter in Vienna, which was
full of Jews and still is.
That led to his anger which resulted in deportations and mass killing.

[TheForeigner]

Braun is a typical Jewish name and apparently she looks very Jewish
Well it does not surprise, Hitler with distant Jewish roots himself had a weakness for Jews.
Unconfirmed rumours say that he was refused by one when he tried himself as painter in Vienna, which was
full of Jews and still is.
That led to his anger which resulted in deportations and mass killing.

Trash pseudo-psychobabble. Jewish political, economic and intelectual activities and movements and their negative impact on society inspired his antisemitism.

[TheForeigner]

Rosenberg is also typical Jewish, but also German surname. Think of Nazi prominent member and ideologue Alfred Rosenberg.

[Corvus]

Trash pseudo-psychobabble. Jewish political, economic and intelectual activities and movements and their negative impact on society inspired his antisemitism.

I would rather say Hitler was a Jewish self hater.

[TheForeigner]

I would rather say Hitler was a Jewish self hater.

Baseless speculation at best.

[Leliana]

Braun is a typical Jewish name .
Uhm, it's not.