Who has more Slavic blood Irish or Ashkenazi Jews!?

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Discuss!?

[Dombra]

Ashkenazi Jews

Why would the Irish have more? :confused:

[Kastrioti1443]

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[SobieskisavedEurope]

Ashkenazi Jews

Why would the Irish have more? :confused:

Don't Irish have more Eastern European & Baltic genetics like Slavs than Ashkenazi Jews do!?

[Visitor_22]

Don't Irish have more Eastern European & Baltic genetics like Slavs than Ashkenazi Jews do!?

No! Irish people are native to Ireland.

Ashkenazi jews have more german (yiddish) and some slav blood (polish, ukrainian, russian etc.).

[Visitor_22]

Ashkenazis of course! But they have more german blood than slavic.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Obviously Askenazi Jews who lived in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia through their ethnogensis!

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Obviously Askenazi Jews who lived in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia through their ethnogensis!

Do you think that Ashkenazi Jews may have as much direct Slavic blood as Serbians!?

[Mans not hot]

Dude, why are you making lame threads and posts? You're Americunt, not Polack.

[Chieftain]

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This-

This is probably the most stupid thread I've read in months, slavs are not that numerous as some idiots confirm in this forum, let us not forget the tons of vlachs, thracians, illyrians and other natives they have assimiliated, with them being immigrants in Balkans.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

No! Irish people are native to Ireland.

Ashkenazi jews have more german (yiddish) and some slav blood (polish, ukrainian, russian etc.).

Why do Irish genetically cluster closer to Slavs than Ashkenazi Jews do!?

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/82/1385821686069.png

[Chichic]

LQ thread

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Dude, why are you making lame threads and posts? You're Americunt, not Polack.

Why not!?

Irish are Indo-European & Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic.

P.S
My Polish ancestors are just as Polish as your ancestors.

My great uncle was a Catholic priest in Poland while my great grandfather was an officer in the Polish army.

[Grace O'Malley]

The Irish have more Baltic and Eastern European than the English, Western Scottish and Orcadian by this. I don't really know why when they are more West than those populations. :confused:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ato3EYTdM8lQdHRPeVdMUDNjOVZETVoxZHpqVG5qN Hc&usp=sharing#gid=0

[LightHouse89]

irish people do not have slavic DNA nor do Icelanders or Scots. Norwegians maybe alittle.

[LightHouse89]

The Irish have more Baltic and Eastern European than the English, Western Scottish and Orcadian by this. I don't really know why when they are more West than those populations. :confused:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ato3EYTdM8lQdHRPeVdMUDNjOVZETVoxZHpqVG5qN Hc&usp=sharing#gid=0

I do not agree with that. The irish were and are too isolated to have any connections with the Slavs.

[Cail]

Maybe some Irish Americans who mixed with Poles (a lot of Irish-Polish-Italian mixing went on, because all three went to the same Catholic churches) have something Slavic in them, but not the Ireland's Irish.

Ashkenazi have loads of Slavic blood (Polish, Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian) since they've been living in Eastern Europe for centuries.

[LightHouse89]

Why not!?

Irish are Indo-European & Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic.

P.S
My Polish ancestors are just as Polish as your ancestors.

My great uncle was a Catholic priest in Poland while my great grandfather was an officer in the Polish army.

We are not Europeans......remember we are plastic Europeans to them......I perfer the native american mythology descending from magical white people who came from the stars.....proves we are the masters of the Americas...with out us these other race would die off. Anyway there isnt anything special about being Irish because today black people born in Ireland are called Irish......or British if born in Britain so I share no common values with the modern 'white' population with Ireland or other Europeans. If they died off tommorrow I wouldnt care. They are hazardous to have as freinds as most liberal and leftist ideas in todays America originated in Europe not America.

[LightHouse89]

Maybe some Irish Americans who mixed with Poles (a lot of Irish-Polish-Italian mixing went on, because all three went to the same Catholic churches) have something Slavic in them, but not the Ireland's Irish.

Ashkenazi have loads of Slavic blood (Polish, Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian) since they've been living in Eastern Europe for centuries.

Yes its more common out west to meet people with slavic origins. Although in central Mass where I live there is a sizable population of Slavs from various backgrounds but due to religion differences here they did not mix with the Irish descendants [we cannot claim we are irish because we arent born there so I say descendants].

[Grace O'Malley]

I do not agree with that. The irish were and are too isolated to have any connections with the Slavs.

It doesn't really matter if people agree with it or not. It is from Eurogenes K15 so if you don't agree with it you can throw all the dna studies out the window. It shows the Irish with more Baltic and East European than the rest of the British Isles (marginally so but still). It has nothing to do with Irish in American who have mixed with Poles. To me it shows ancient ancestral ties most probably from hunter gatherers. The only thing which is unexpected is that the Orcadians and West Scots are a bit less. I would have expected them to have more been more East. What do some of you bright sparks think?

[Grace O'Malley]

I do not agree with that. The irish were and are too isolated to have any connections with the Slavs.

Maybe the isolation is why they have more? :thumb001:

[armenianbodyhair]

Lolwut

[interes]

Jews

[Grace O'Malley]

We are not Europeans......remember we are plastic Europeans to them......I perfer the native american mythology descending from magical white people who came from the stars.....proves we are the masters of the Americas...with out us these other race would die off. Anyway there isnt anything special about being Irish because today black people born in Ireland are called Irish......or British if born in Britain so I share no common values with the modern 'white' population with Ireland or other Europeans. If they died off tommorrow I wouldnt care. They are hazardous to have as freinds as most liberal and leftist ideas in todays America originated in Europe not America.

Oh boy! If all your ancestors are Irish than you have an ancient footing on the Emerald Isle. I've got no other ancestry other than Irish and there are lots of Irish in Ireland the same. It is only in the last 20 years that Ireland has had major immigration. There is still a huge amount of the country the same. Of course it is changing very drastically in one generation but most Irish are still 100%.

[Grace O'Malley]

irish people do not have slavic DNA nor do Icelanders or Scots. Norwegians maybe alittle.

Anyway it's not a connection to Slavs per se.

[Grace O'Malley]

To answer the thread Ashkenazi Jews have more Slavic blood and the Irish have more hunter gatherer dna.

[LightHouse89]

Oh boy! If all your ancestors are Irish than you have an ancient footing on the Emerald Isle. I've got no other ancestry other than Irish and there are lots of Irish in Ireland the same. It is only in the last 20 years that Ireland has had major immigration. There is still a huge amount of the country the same. Of course it is changing very drastically in one generation but most Irish are still 100%.

Well today anyone born in Ireland is considered Irish so this would exclude me. Not to mention I have a mixed background either way so I do not care. I have more pride for Southern hertiage despite being a Yankee....I consider myself a sympathiser with them. I remember someone telling me though that foriegners born in Ireland or anywhere in Europe are considered their ethnic bretheren so I say there isnt anything special about having roots from those places. I can remember a German telling me this....blacks born in Germany are as German as the Germans are this made me laugh hysterically. The same can be said of modern day Irish people who say the same thing so there isnt anything special about being or having a background there. In America we are called plastic paddies or w/e if we claim we are irish in ireland so my feelings towards them is the hell with them their island and the british too.

Southern Pride! Only real southerners and yankees are white people. Everyone else are immigrant guests to me.

[Argang]

The Irish have more Baltic and Eastern European than the English, Western Scottish and Orcadian by this. I don't really know why when they are more West than those populations. :confused:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ato3EYTdM8lQdHRPeVdMUDNjOVZETVoxZHpqVG5qN Hc&usp=sharing#gid=0

It's because Baltic and Eastern European were present all over Europe back in the mesolithic. La Braña-1, a mesolithic Iberian, has 24.51% Baltic and 14.51% Eastern European on that calculator. Those componenents don't indicate Slavic admixture, they were in West Europe before indo-european speakers like Slavs or Celts existed.

If the Irish have more of them than the English, it may be a sign that the ancient population base has been affected less by neolithic migrations which tend to dilute mesolithic components - not much of Baltic or East Euro in Sardinians.

[Sikeliot]

Irish are more autosomally related to them, due to the sum of their components, but Ashkenazis probably have more actual Slavic ancestry, although the rest of their genes pull them further away on a PCA plot.

[Nehellenia]

hahahahaha oh dear :D

[RussiaPrussia]

weird question and obvious

[LightHouse89]

weird question and obvious

is it? isn't all of Europe Russia? :rolleyes: